>>Hi Mellie,first time we have spoken,pleased to meet yow. Yes,it would appear that he did work for the Board,but do Google it, its a super site and very interesting,gives loads of detail,staff,census etc.,massive place. Let me know what you think, Regards Dave in Inskip<< Index of English and Welsh Lunatic Asylums and Mental Hospitals Based on a comprehensive survey in 1844, and extended to other asylums. I like this site!!!!! they all have my coat of arms! ROTFLMFAO Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Mellie, the reason for posting this is quite simple I'm not gullible enough to fall for it but a lot of people may well be. This is why I gave it the time of day! oh and I didn't follow the link. The more people are made aware of this type of hoax the less they are likely to fall for it. Martin Most Bank websites have info on the hoax emails and where to send them if you receive them so that they can attempt to trace them and find the people responsible, If people bank online they will probably find information as they log in that tells them again about fake emails. I agree that the more that people are aware of such things they may be more likely to avoid getting in to grief with them by giving banking details, most people might even realise that if they dont back online and/or have not given their bank their email address they wouldn't be emailling them in the first place. however, if you either don't bank online in the first place, or receive an email from a bank other than the one you use, the best advice is to ignore it in its entirity, and delete it, or forward it to the real bank's security dept. Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Hi Fiona, Thanks for all of your good advice, I will try that next. All the best, Marion ----- Original Message ----- From: FCASKEY@aol.com To: centric@rea-alp.com Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [B.C.] Patience PARKS/ES b. abt. 1841 Marion, Upton-on-Severn is a wee way away. I would not have thought they would have retired there. Could have moved for work. Do you have Patience marriage cert? Check the witnesses as this may give a clue or some of her brothers/ sisters may provide a clue from the witnesses. You could use the surnames of the witnessess to check against the marriages for Patiences parents. That is all I can think of at the moment. Fiona In a message dated 09/04/2006 16:53:42 GMT Daylight Time, centric@rea-alp.com writes: Hi Fiona, I have Patience PARKES as being the dau. of Thos. & Sarah PARKES b. abt. 1841 in Dudley or R.Regis. She m. Joseph FOXALL Jun 17, 1860 in RowleyRegis, STS (IGI info.) I am trying to use Patience to trace the maiden name of her mother - Sarah (last name unk.), (PARKES) and had hoped, since she was born after registration began, that this would be the way to trace the Thos. PARKES family in RowleyRegis. She was their last child, going by the UK Census' of the era. There are two deaths listed in the FreBMD for Patience FOXALL, one of them b & d. 1888 - so I guess that might be a baby of the family, and then I found a Patience FOXALL who died aged 63, in 1903, Sep. Qtr. of the WOR reg. Vol 6c. page 148. She died in Upton-On-Severn. I am assuming that is my Patience FOXALL, but who knows? I don't recall now, where Upton-on-Severn is - have you any clue? Maybe they were retired by then, altho' it could be the Patience FOXALL who was born in Solihull, Warwicks? I am at a loss as to how else to try and find the maiden name of Patience' mother! any thoughts? Thanks, Marion ----- Original Message ----- From: FCASKEY@aol.com To: centric@rea-alp.com Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [B.C.] Patience PARKS/ES b. abt. 1841 Marion, If she was not married it may say in occupation - daughter of XXXXX. Also if her parents where alive it may have been reported by one the her parents or even a brother or sister which may provide clues. But being down in England may not give a clue to her Mothers maiden name. Should be in Scotland, Mother maiden name given on death cert. What are the death details you have? Regards Fiona In a message dated 09/04/2006 02:20:40 GMT Daylight Time, centric@rea-alp.com writes: Hi Fiona, Many thanks for your help. I do know that most of my family attended St. John's Church in Kates Hill, for many, many years. Most of my family are buried there, so perhaps that's the clue? I may have found her death, would her parents names be on it though? All the best, Marion ----- Original Message ----- From: <FCASKEY@aol.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 7:32 AM Subject: [B.C.] Patience PARKS/ES b. abt. 1841 > Marion, > Patience is not in the GRO index in London. > Perhaps someone could go to the records office in Dudley or one near by > and > see if they have records which are not in the GRO index. Remember GRO is > only > an index so may be something miss. > check this site you may find something > _http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/index.php_ (http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/index.php) > if not BMSGH (Birmingham Midland family history Society ) may be able to > help. > FYI my family from Rowley Regis in 1850's were Baptised at Dudley 'Top > Church' so just because your family were from Rowley does not mean their > church > was there. > > Sorry just a thought if you cannot find Patience in 1861 census have you > found a death? > > Sorry I have not been more help > Regards > Fiona Caskey > > X-Message: #5 > Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:02:38 -0500 > From: "Centric" <centric@rea-alp.com> > To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <010e01c65a86$9de55dd0$4a11a03f@dudley> > Subject: Patience PARKS/ES b. abt. 1841 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > I am still trying to locate a birth certificate for my above-named > gggg.aunt. All that I know about her is that she was born in "Dudley" > abt. 1841 - > (1841 & 1851 UK Census), to Thos. & Sarah PARKS/ES. At the time the > family > was living in "Freebodies" nr. the Dixon's Green/Kates Hill area of > Dudley. > I do not recall any place there named that back when I used to live > there, where is it? > Sometimes iDixon's Green is reckoned to be in RowleyRegis, also. Does > anyone know which Parish it would fall into? St. John's was my family's > church, > do you feel that is where she may have been baptised? Any help would be > appreciated. I cannot locate her in the FreeBMD or on ancestry.com, > other than in > the UK Census'. > Many thanks, > Marion > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/304 - Release Date: 4/7/2006 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 4/8/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 4/8/2006

Hi All This is the newspaper article of my Aunt Alice Liz has done her best to transcrible it , has it was in a poor condition in many parts Cassy Liverpool Echo newspaper dated 1963 " Tipperary " was first sung by a child One morning in 1912, the next door neighbour of a talented 10 year old singer was appearing in a juvenile music hall show locally called round and said "I have written a song that I think will suit you. How about trying it out in your act Allie?" The child then known as Baby Franklin - real name Alice- sang it in the drawing room, with the composer, Jack Judge, at the piano. And that evening for the first time ever in public, little Allie Franklin sang her neighbours new Irish style number, called "It's a long way to Tipperary " Now, with sadness I must tell you that this happy personality who first sang " Tipperary " has died in the Liverpool home for Invalid women, at the age of 62. For many Years, she had been Mrs. Allie Ireland, wife of my old backstage friend Charlie Ireland, of the Playhouse Theatre, and formerly manager of the Shakespeare Theatre in Liverpool. They lived at Bancroft Place, Crosby. Broken hearted Charlie told me to-day. "She had spent a life time in serving and helping other folk before she died. She expressed a wish to keep on helping in some way afterwards. At her desire, her body has gone to Liverpool University p----- through research to ---- other suffer in the future. Allie as we all knew her started her stage career as one of the late Sid Fields troupe of " Klno? Juveniles " ------ so well that she was given her own spot in the show. And that was why her neighbour in the Stafford ----------- --------- where she lived Jack Judge, thought of her when had completed his "Tipperary "and asked her to introduce it to the public. She sang it for 20 years Allie used to recall, with a smile, that the audience at the first performance didn't exactly go overboard for the number although they obviously like it. Not until World War One broke on us two years later, and our men were marching through the streets of France did the rhythmic beat of " Tipperary " and its easy to remember chorus start to warm the cockles of the nations heart. Charlie Ireland said to me " Allie sang it from 1912 right through to 1932, and everywhere she appeared the audiences would clamor for it. "When a tablet to Jack Judge, as a composer of the world greatest marching son, was unveiled by Jack Hylton years later, Allie and I were among the specially invited guests. "And, at the grand concert that followed the tablet being unveiled, she was once again asked to sing it." Allie Ireland was a charming cheerful woman, even through the hard years of her late life when illness overtook her. Right to the final curtain, she proved her --- of a great trooper. She will be missed - more especially perhaps by those of us who will never hear

Hi folks Just a quick message to say thank you for all the kind people who replied to my original query, especially the ones who took the trouble to send a photo of the grave and the details from the Terry Smitheman's book, "James Bridge Cemetery Darlaston and the War Graves." All the very best and thanks again Ian Ian Beach Bunbury, Western Australia ian@sedgleymanor.com -- Ian Beach Bunbury, Western Australia ian@sedgleymanor.com Website "The Ancient Manor of Sedgley" in Staffordshire at http://www.sedgleymanor.com Listowner ENG-STS-SEDGLEY at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-STS-SEDGLEY.html Researching: Sedgley, Staffordshire : ADDIS(S), BEACH, CASWELL, GUTT(E)RIDGE, HOPKINS, FLAVELL, MILLARD & TURLEY Darlaston, Staffordshire : FOSTER, ORME & YATES Shropshire : ADDIS(S), BEACH, CASWELL

Mellie, the reason for posting this is quite simple I'm not gullible enough to fall for it but a lot of people may well be. This is why I gave it the time of day! oh and I didn't follow the link. The more people are made aware of this type of hoax the less they are likely to fall for it. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mellie" <chouikh2006@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [B.C.] Fake Bank Security Messages >>DON'T FALL FOR IT! The message I received tells me that I have over £2000 >>in a Barclay's account, wrong idon't have a Barclays Account so this is >>clearly another con trick. Martin<< if you dont have a barclays account in the first place why follow the link? most banks are currently experiencing a flux of hoax emails. along with ebay and paypal. I'm still fascinated as to why you would give it time of day when you dont have an account in the first place LOL Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 10/04/2006

Hi Mellie,first time we have spoken,pleased to meet yow. Yes,it would appear that he did work for the Board,but do Google it, its a super site and very interesting,gives loads of detail,staff,census etc.,massive place. Let me know what you think, Regards Dave in Inskip On 11/04/06, Mellie <chouikh2006@btinternet.com> wrote: > > >>Hello Anne in Oz, > > Metropolitan Asylums Board, > > If you Google this you will find the full story. > > regards > Dave in Inskip<< > > Hey Dave, does it mean then that the certificate that anne was looking at, > the guy worked for the metropolitan asylums board? that he kept up the > gardens at the asylums, no I havent googled it as you can tell LOL > I have one that was a hospital gardener, triggered my brain to thinking > maybe i could find more about him maybe even a photo!!!!!!!! > Mellie > How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > Wherever possible (except for personal messages) > please post replies to the list.Other people can learn from them! > > -- Sheffield Records Online http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk Online Sheffield 1841,1861 census, trade directories,probate, message forum & more. If you are chasing your Ancestors round Sheffield---this is the place to be at.

Hi All, I'm helping a friend do her husbands tree and have come across something on a birth certificate that I haven't seen before. I was hoping one of you very knowledgeable people out there would know what it means. In the father's occupation column it says gardener and has the letters M.A.B. The family lived in London if that is any help. Thanks Anne Sweetman Brisbane Australia

>>Hello Anne in Oz, Metropolitan Asylums Board, If you Google this you will find the full story. regards Dave in Inskip<< Hey Dave, does it mean then that the certificate that anne was looking at, the guy worked for the metropolitan asylums board? that he kept up the gardens at the asylums, no I havent googled it as you can tell LOL I have one that was a hospital gardener, triggered my brain to thinking maybe i could find more about him maybe even a photo!!!!!!!! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

>>DON'T FALL FOR IT! The message I received tells me that I have over £2000 >>in a Barclay's account, wrong idon't have a Barclays Account so this is >>clearly another con trick. Martin<< if you dont have a barclays account in the first place why follow the link? most banks are currently experiencing a flux of hoax emails. along with ebay and paypal. I'm still fascinated as to why you would give it time of day when you dont have an account in the first place LOL Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Hello Anne in Oz, Metropolitan Asylums Board, If you Google this you will find the full story. regards Dave in Inskip On 11/04/06, Anne Sweetman <ianandanne@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I'm helping a friend do her husbands tree and have come across something > on > a birth certificate that I haven't seen before. I was hoping one of you > very > knowledgeable people out there would know what it means. In the father's > occupation column it says gardener and has the letters M.A.B. The family > lived in London if that is any help. > > > > Thanks > > > > Anne Sweetman > > Brisbane Australia > > > > ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== > The Assistant List Admins are Jean Morgan and Jan Ross > (Couldn't do it without those two great ladies) > > -- Sheffield Records Online http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk Online Sheffield 1841,1861 census, trade directories,probate, message forum & more. If you are chasing your Ancestors round Sheffield---this is the place to be at.

I assumed that he knew that this was the person he was looking for. Presumably I missed an earlier part of the thread. Notwithstanding the above, I think that it is likely that, whoever he was, T .Bates 406664 will have been invalided out with a pension and at least his pension records will be available at Kew. Ron S I agree, get all the info you can! but in this particualr case its not a known yet, I'm hoping it turns out to be a connection cos i love when shots in teh dark make good! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Hello Cassy, According to a handlist I have from Smethwick Archives, they are held there - Tat Bank (Zion) New Connexion, Oldbury baptisms 1879-1969 on microfiche. Regards Jean > Hi All > Has anyone got any idea or where for that matter the > Zion New Connexion Chapel Tat Bank Oldbury was > or if it is still there or any records > I have a Baptism of my gr gr uncle Moses Whitehouse > dated 1892 baptised there > Cheers > Cassy

Just a friendly warning, I have just received the latest in a long line of Scams. It supposedly comes from Barclays Bank, and is signed by a Mr. Salmon. It asks you to follow a link and enter some information off your PIN card as an Anti Fraud measure. DON'T FALL FOR IT! The message I received tells me that I have over £2000 in a Barclay's account, wrong idon't have a Barclays Account so this is clearly another con trick. Martin

Hello Martin, I had this one as well, but I do have a Barclays account, however they credited me with a lot more money than I had (I wish that I did have that much). As you say, never ever divulge any information in an email. Doreen

> its a shot in the dark that this person is even the one he is looking for I assumed that he knew that this was the person he was looking for. Presumably I missed an earlier part of the thread. Notwithstanding the above, I think that it is likely that, whoever he was, T .Bates 406664 will have been invalided out with a pension and at least his pension records will be available at Kew. Ron S Original Message: ----------------- From: Mellie chouikh2006@btinternet.com Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:48:04 +0100 To: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B.C.] James Bridge Cemetery, Darlaston query >>>It is certainly worth a look at Kew, if you can get someone to do a >>>search.<< i doubt that its worth Ian going to that much effort at the moment, its a shot in the dark that this person is even the one he is looking for, he is best to stick with the burial records at Walsall RO, he has a pic of the grave there is no further info than on the CWGC site, the burial reocrds will tell him more, and will identify if its the right person if it is then the online medals card index will help and then of course hope its not a totally burnt record at kew! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? ==== ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Mailing List ==== The B.C. List Admin is Dave Ogden :- d.ogden@blueyonder.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Hi All Has anyone got any idea or where for that matter the Zion New Connexion Chapel Tat Bank Oldbury was or if it is still there or any records I have a Baptism of my gr gr uncle Moses Whitehouse dated 1892 baptised there Cheers Cassy

Has anyone heard of the White Horse pub in Soho Street, Smethwick. Is it still there ? regards Gay Smallwood

One of my relations was married at the Wesleyan Centenary Chapel in Brettell Lane, Amblecote in 1899. Is it still there? David in Brierley Hill

>>>It is certainly worth a look at Kew, if you can get someone to do a >>>search.<< i doubt that its worth Ian going to that much effort at the moment, its a shot in the dark that this person is even the one he is looking for, he is best to stick with the burial records at Walsall RO, he has a pic of the grave there is no further info than on the CWGC site, the burial reocrds will tell him more, and will identify if its the right person if it is then the online medals card index will help and then of course hope its not a totally burnt record at kew! Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?