Tracy Sorry Alfred 1895 Joseph 1897 Alec ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy<mailto:[email protected]> To: Alec Newnes<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Looking for Wheeler St. in 1891 Census (OFF LIST) Alec Are you sure about the years of birth of the older children? Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alec Newnes" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; "STAFFORDSHIRE" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; "ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:17 AM Subject: [Black Country] Looking for Wheeler St. in 1891 Census > > Hi Listers > > I have not been able to find my great grand parents in 1891, or 1901 > census ? (or censi ) > > The name Newnes is often missed spelt or pronounced, > but from the 1911 census (which was filled out wrong ) I have some > information on their children > Alfred born 1895 Wheeler St. > Joseph born 1897 " " > Walter born 1900 " " > Lily born 1902 Lister St. > and Ernest born 1905 Victoria St. > their parents were Thomas and Alice Newnes > in 1911 they were living at 65 Aston St. > > What I am looking for is in 1891 and 1901 I am looking for Wheeler St, so > I can go door to door and find them ? and or 1901 maybe Lister St. too > > Thank you in advance this would break my brick wall that I have had for a > while > > Alec Newnes > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I will be out of the office starting 02/10/2009 and will not return until 12/10/2009. I will answer all emails when I return

Hi Listers I have not been able to find my great grand parents in 1891, or 1901 census ? (or censi ) The name Newnes is often missed spelt or pronounced, but from the 1911 census (which was filled out wrong ) I have some information on their children Alfred born 1885 Wheeler St. Joseph born 1887 " " Walter born 1900 " " Lily born 1902 Lister St. and Ernest born 1905 Victoria St. their parents were Thomas and Alice Newnes in 1911 they were living at 65 Aston St. What I am looking for is in 1891 and 1901 I am looking for Wheeler St, so I can go door to door and find them ? and or 1901 maybe Lister St. too Thank you in advance this would break my brick wall that I have had for a while Alec Newnes

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Linda Marsh <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to hear from anyone researching the followings names : > > Wainwright  -   Wordsley - Stourbridge - Oldswinford > Swift          -    Stourbridge - Dudley > Farmer       -    Wordsley > Cox          -     Brierley Hill > Trinder     -      Dudley > Darley      -     Dudley  Shropshire and Wolverhampton > Knowles   -     Netherton and Brierley Hill > Jones       -     Dudley (Fishmongers) > Horton     -      Dudley > Round      -     Brierley Hill > Edwards   -     Dudley and Tipton I have a few Edwards in my research. Edward Edwards born about 1862. He married Sarah Pearson in Dudley September 1884. She was born 4 Nov 1864 in Dudley and died about 1918 in the Black Country. They had children: John, Selina, Edward and Annie born 1884-1892. 1901 Census, Low Town Edward born about 1893 emigrated to Granville, Putnam County, Illinois about 1910 and was naturalized in 1916. He was a miner. He married Anna and had at least two children, Eleanor born about 1921 and Joan born about March 1930. 1920 and 1930 census, Illinois, Putnam Co., Granville. Marsha Pearson

Hello, I would like to hear from anyone researching the followings names : Wainwright - Wordsley - Stourbridge - Oldswinford Swift - Stourbridge - Dudley Farmer - Wordsley Cox - Brierley Hill Trinder - Dudley Darley - Dudley Shropshire and Wolverhampton Knowles - Netherton and Brierley Hill Jones - Dudley (Fishmongers) Horton - Dudley Round - Brierley Hill Edwards - Dudley and Tipton Regards, Linda

Hello List   I have several female ancestors living in the Stourbridge area in the 1850s who were employed as screw makers.  I would like to know more about this occupation and whether it was still a cottage industry at this period.   Can anyone help?   Many thanks   Pamela F

Hi All, Looking for more information on my Great Grandfather John Cooper Born Tipton 1850 Parents John & Ann. After his Wife Mary (Maiden Name Cotterill) died in 1894, he Married a Widow called Rachel Emma Blakesly (Maiden Name Chesterton ) . She had two children from her previous marriage:- Arthur Blakesly B.1887 in Dudley Phoebe " B. 1890 in " ; If anyone can connect to this family I would love to hear from them. There were a lot of children from the first marriage to Mary. Thanks in advance Tony Cooper.

Hi Listers, Google is amassing a vast collection of books- free for the reading - on their Google Books site. In my next life I hope to have time to seriously check it out. Meanwhile, researching the Horseley Colliery in Tipton I stumbled onto one little gem. The title of the book is -- (Hang onto your bifocals.)-- "Memoirs of the Geological Society of Great Britain and the Museum of Practical Geology -- the South Staffordshire Coal Field" by J. Beete Jukes, M.A. Camb., F.R.S., &C., Second Edition 1859. You can guess with a title like that there are many pages that are vastly tedious. Skip them. Go to the last chapters the Notes on how they did it all starting on page 219 on page 223, "Notes on coal raised and iron made in 1858." He tells you all about the operations with a great list of all the works and owners and furnaces in the area at the time. Great stuff if you have any family working in coal or iron. There is a good index at the end with links to the pages if you have a specific area of interest. The official link is: http://books.google.com/books?id=0gq8AAAAIAAJ&lpg=PA163&ots=OJJAXVN8vn&dq=Ho rsley%20Colliery&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q=&f=false You will need to click or copy all of it or skip it and just Google search "Horseley Colliery" Mae Canaga In California USA

Thanks to everyone who replied to this email Still have not found out if there is a large paupers grave at Roodend , but I think I have found out who the little girl was my Moses Franklin was buried with , My Gr Uncle Albert Whitehouse married a widow named Fanny Jones and we believe Agnes Jones was her daughter so this is why Moses was put him with him Cheers Cassy Assistant Admin Black Country Potteries, and Wolverhampton Lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "cassy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: [Black Country] ROODEND GRAVES > Hi All > Been doing some family research on my Franklins from Oldbury > Got a couple of questions can anyone answer them > My Gr Uncle Henry Thompson died in 1931 (he married Bertha Franklin ) > According to what my cousin was told he was put in a very large paupers > grave at Roodend with other paupers , can some one tell me if this is > true > ? > Underneath is am email I also got off my cousin after she phoned up > Sandwell to try and > find out where our Moses was buried in 1892 > > . I made a call from work re Moses and his burial place. Are you ready for > a > shock???? > Moses John Franklin is buried in Rood End cemetery plot number C2331. > There > has never been a headstone the shock is he isn't alone there. Moses is > buried with a little girl called Agnes Jones who was 2 and a half when she > died. Get this I thought has they were poor they shared a grave with a > local resident. WRONG - Agnes died in March 1874 who the hell was she???? > Well I have looked on the West Midland Site and I can not find a birth > in > that time frame for someone born at Oldbury but found one at > Harborne , has far has I know none of my Franklins has any connection > with the surname Jones > Can anyone help > Cheers > > Cassy > Assistant Admin Black Country > Potteries, and Wolverhampton Lists > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.103/2378 - Release Date: 09/17/09 06:18:00

Hang on you lot. I must have missed some mails here but I have a MOSES JONES born approx. 1811 - my great great great grandfather infact. He was the husband of Elizabeth Edwards. Please send information. Regards, Yorkie

On 17 Sep, cassy <[email protected]> wrote: > Moses is buried with a little girl called Agnes Jones who was 2 and a > half when she died. Get this I thought has they were poor they shared > a grave with a local resident. WRONG - Agnes died in March 1874 who the > hell was she???? Well I have looked on the West Midland Site and I can > not find a birth in that time frame for someone born at Oldbury > but found one at Harborne , has far has I know none of my Franklins > has any connection with the surname Jones Firstly, Harborne covered Smethwick, which is not a million miles away from Rood End. Secondly, sometimes if people were poor and couldn't afford a grave then a grave was reused, and it may be that this was the case. Do you have your Moses's death cert? It's possible that he lived alone and had no traceable relatives, and so was buried in a plot which hadn't been used for some time. No need for a connection. Cheers -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Hi All Been doing some family research on my Franklins from Oldbury Got a couple of questions can anyone answer them My Gr Uncle Henry Thompson died in 1931 (he married Bertha Franklin ) According to what my cousin was told he was put in a very large paupers grave at Roodend with other paupers , can some one tell me if this is true ? Underneath is am email I also got off my cousin after she phoned up Sandwell to try and find out where our Moses was buried in 1892 . I made a call from work re Moses and his burial place. Are you ready for a shock???? Moses John Franklin is buried in Rood End cemetery plot number C2331. There has never been a headstone the shock is he isn't alone there. Moses is buried with a little girl called Agnes Jones who was 2 and a half when she died. Get this I thought has they were poor they shared a grave with a local resident. WRONG - Agnes died in March 1874 who the hell was she???? Well I have looked on the West Midland Site and I can not find a birth in that time frame for someone born at Oldbury but found one at Harborne , has far has I know none of my Franklins has any connection with the surname Jones Can anyone help Cheers Cassy Assistant Admin Black Country Potteries, and Wolverhampton Lists

they torke loike that in dudley, tipton, Quarry Bonk, nar ar wench! seriously, that is how the "heart" of the black country still speak, so its not a case of still being fluent in the lingo, on the basis that its being "kept alive" its how they speak lol i'm from Walsall ~ so don't have such a broad Black country accent. if you listen to the song, it does help you to understand the accent. as fer yow being behind us in toime, yow all are over the pond lol even them sittin in me kitchen now lol From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:13:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Black Country] A is for Opple To: [email protected] This is toooo funny! Thanks for the lessons in how to spake propa. Did everyone in the Black Country speak like this? When? Obviously some people are still fluent in this lingo! I have looked at the t-shirt page and understood some of them. I thought I had a website bookmarked with a BC dictionary, but I can't find it. Do you have any suggestions? No, I'm not from round ere. I'm 8-9 time zones to your west in California. It's no wonder that I can't spake propa! Brenda In a message dated 9/5/2009 9:53:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: ther ay anyfin to translate ar wench, its black country spake, yow ay from round ere am ya? goo t' the website ar wench, and av a shufty at the pictchas on the stuff, and yow will know! http://www.teetshirts.com/ > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:14:29 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Black Country] A is for Opple > > > Can someone translate this song for me? > > Brenda > > > > In a message dated 9/4/2009 3:20:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Mellie: > > The You-tube video is the same as the one in the link I sent. In fact, I > first found it there when I joined the Facebook group "I'm not a Brummie, > I'm from the Black Country and proud." An interesting group! > > Best wishes > > Paul > > > > 2009/9/4 Mellie Chouikh <[email protected]> > > > http://www.teetshirts.com/ > > > > then you might just like the entire website for the tee shirts and check > > out thier new video on you tube ~ havient seen it yet it just arrived in > my > > inbox today lol > > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:49:51 +0100 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Black Country] A is for Opple > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > I enjoyed this modern Black Country alphabet song. > > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/content/articles/2008/12/11/black_country_alphabet_feature.shtml > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Paul > > > ------------------------------------- > > > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. > > Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out > how.<http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/> > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Access your other email accounts and manage all your email from one place. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Save time by using Hotmail to access your other email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/

Hi there, Does anyone know if there was a pub at 4 Great Western St., Wednesbury in 1911 please? Regards, Judy Mellowes Sydney

ther ay anyfin to translate ar wench, its black country spake, yow ay from round ere am ya? goo t' the website ar wench, and av a shufty at the pictchas on the stuff, and yow will know! http://www.teetshirts.com/ > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:14:29 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Black Country] A is for Opple > > > Can someone translate this song for me? > > Brenda > > > > In a message dated 9/4/2009 3:20:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Mellie: > > The You-tube video is the same as the one in the link I sent. In fact, I > first found it there when I joined the Facebook group "I'm not a Brummie, > I'm from the Black Country and proud." An interesting group! > > Best wishes > > Paul > > > > 2009/9/4 Mellie Chouikh <[email protected]> > > > http://www.teetshirts.com/ > > > > then you might just like the entire website for the tee shirts and check > > out thier new video on you tube ~ havient seen it yet it just arrived in > my > > inbox today lol > > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:49:51 +0100 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Black Country] A is for Opple > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > I enjoyed this modern Black Country alphabet song. > > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/content/articles/2008/12/11/black_country_alphabet_feature.shtml > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Paul > > > ------------------------------------- > > > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. > > Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out > how.<http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/> > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Access your other email accounts and manage all your email from one place. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/

I would like to thank the following, Chris, Carl, Nigel, Paul, plus anyone I may have forgotten. You all pointed me in the direction of the _www.cmhrc.co.uk_ (http://www.cmhrc.co.uk) site. This site enabled me to finally get the death certificate of Joseph Allsop. (Transcribed on the site as J.Allson). The cmhrc site gave me enough information I needed to apply for a certificate from the GRO, Southport. Kindest regards to you all, Maureen

Hope this gets thru' this time. Mo

Judy, just out of interest the 1904 Kelly's gives the same information. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Judy Mellowes <[email protected]> To: List, Black Country, <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:08 Subject: [Black Country] Wednesbury Hi there, Does anyone know if there was a pub at 4 Great Western St., Wednesbury in 1911 please? Regards, Judy Mellowes Sydney ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, according to Kelly's 1912 directory at 4 Great Western Street was a Reuben Cockbill, a beer retailer, hope this helps. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Judy Mellowes <[email protected]> To: List, Black Country, <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:08 Subject: [Black Country] Wednesbury Hi there, Does anyone know if there was a pub at 4 Great Western St., Wednesbury in 1911 please? Regards, Judy Mellowes Sydney ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone translate this song for me? Brenda In a message dated 9/4/2009 3:20:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Mellie: The You-tube video is the same as the one in the link I sent. In fact, I first found it there when I joined the Facebook group "I'm not a Brummie, I'm from the Black Country and proud." An interesting group! Best wishes Paul 2009/9/4 Mellie Chouikh <[email protected]> > http://www.teetshirts.com/ > > then you might just like the entire website for the tee shirts and check > out thier new video on you tube ~ havient seen it yet it just arrived in my > inbox today lol > > > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:49:51 +0100 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Black Country] A is for Opple > > > > > Hi: > > > > I enjoyed this modern Black Country alphabet song. > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/content/articles/2008/12/11/black_country_alphabet_feature.shtml > > > > Best wishes > > > > Paul > > ------------------------------------- > > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. > Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how.<http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/> > ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message