Hello all, > Subject: [Black Country] Roll Call - My 4xGt grandfather Simeon EDGE was baptised on 9th February 1783 at Bloxwich son of Timothy Edge and Susannah Blews - his details can be found at http://www.gencircles.com/users/pjrich/2/data/2027 - names in his Ancestry include BLEWS and WORRAM as well as Edge. His wife was Sarah PERRY http://www.gencircles.com/users/pjrich/2/data/2026. My working assumption is that she was the daughter of Humphrey PERRY and Susannah SIMPSON whose early children (including Sarah) were baptised in Walsall, but I have chosen to link Sarah to this couple as their later children were baptised in Bloxwich, which would perhaps tie in with Sarah believing Bloxwich to be her birthplace (the 1851 and 1861 censii refer). In later years Humphrey and Susannah lived at Essington - Susannah being there with her eldest son, Humphrey, in 1841. As I am still looking for proof positive I have not put all the detail on my Gencircles page but it is as follows: 1. Humphrey PERRY was born in 1757 (approx.). He married Susannah SIMPSON on 17 December 1777 in Walsall, Staffordshire.(*1) The address was: St Matthews. By banns, witnesses Joseph CASE, John SMITH. Humphrey died in 1835. He was buried on 7 March 1835 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. of Essington. Susannah SIMPSON was born in 1753 (approx.). She died in 1843. She was buried on 4 March 1843 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. of Essington. She and Humphrey PERRY had the following children: 2 Sarah PERRY (1778?-aft1861). Sarah was born in 1778 (approx.) in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. She was christened on 28 September 1778 in Walsall, Staffordshire. The address was: St Matthew. She married Simeon EDGE on 13 November 1804 in Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwickshire.(*2) The address was: St Peter & Paul. Both OTP, witnesses William DACE, Martha JONES. Sarah died after 7 April 1861. Not GRO 1861Q3 Aston, Warwickshire 6d/159. 3 Humphrey PERRY (1781?-aft1851). Humphrey was born in 1781 (approx.) in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. He was christened on 1 May 1781 in Walsall, Staffordshire. The address was: St Matthew's. He was an Awl blade maker. He died after 30 March 1851. 4 Elizabeth PERRY (1784?- ). Elizabeth was born in 1784 (approx.). She was christened on 12 April 1784 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. 5 James PERRY (1786?-aft1851). James was born in 1786 (approx.) in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. He was christened on 23 January 1786 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. He was a Locksmith. He died after 30 March 1851. Another possible Sarah I have been looking at is the daughter of Richard PERRY and Rachell DIXSON (married 17 May 1770, Walsall St Matthew) - this Sarah baptised 5 June 1775. A third Sarah was baptised in 1781 - daughter of Edward and Catherine. My third Bloxwich ancestor is Thomas MOORE - http://www.gencircles.com/users/pjrich/2/data/80. Thomas was a bricklayer and went where the work took him. He was baptised in Bloxwich and married in Coventry in 1822 to Christiana (sometimes referred to as Catherine) Carpenter. They had children born in Coventry, Birmingham and Bloxwich. I think that Thomas may have been Roman Catholic - certainly several of his children were baptised Roman Catholic though some had C of E baptisms as well. Christiana is a bit of a mystery. In 1861 and 1871 Thomas was living at Bilston with a wife named Mary but I have not found a death for Christiana - unless the 1873Q1 GRO record Wolverhampton 6b/420 turns out to be her. As for Thomas, his baptism (19 September 1802, Bloxwich) suggests that his parents were John and Ann - and suspect, but have no proof that he may be connected with the following people who were also Roman Catholics in the Bloxwich area 1 John MOORE (1793?-aft1851). John was born in Bloxwich or Sedgley, Staffordshire. He was a Coal miner. He was confirmed on 28 October 1810 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. John married Mary MARSHALL on 21 August 1820 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire at St Thomas Roman Catholic. Witnesses Thomas DAVID, Martha MARTYN snr. John died after 30 March 1851. (Possibly 1861 in Walsall, Staffordshire). Children John (b.c.1821), Marianne (b.1823), Elizabeth (b.c.1825), Thomas (b.c.1827), Teresa (b.c.1829), Hellen (b.c.1831). 2 Mary MOORE (1800?-1821). Mary was born in 1800 (approx.). She died in 1821. She was buried on 31 February 1821 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire (abode Harden) 3 Joseph MOORE (1809-bef1809). Joseph was born on 10 December 1809. He was christened on 11 December 1809 at St Thomas (RC) Bloxwich, Staffordshire. Joseph died before 12 December 1809. 4 Martha MOORE ( -1810). Martha died in 1810. She was buried on 4 February 1810 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire. 5 Martha MOORE (1809-bef1809). Martha was born on 10 December 1809. She was christened on 11 December 1809 at St Thomas (RC) Bloxwich, Staffordshire. Martha died before 12 December 1809. 6 Raymund MOORE (1811-1874). Raymund was born on 23 January 1811 in Bloxwich, Staffordshire.(*3) He was christened on 3 February 1811 at St Thomas (RC), Bloxwich, Staffordshire.(abode Harden). Sponsors Robert SUTTON, Mary MARSHALL. Raymund was a Bricklayer. He married Elizabeth WOOTTON Q4 1842 in Brackley Registration District. Assumed to be GRO 1842Q4 Brackley 15/401. Raymund married Ann ? Q1 1859 in Warwick Registration District. Assumed to be GRO 1859Q1 Warwick 6d/543. Raymund died Q1 1874 in Warwick Registration District. Assumed to be GRO 1874Q1 Warwick 6d/404. 7 James MOORE (1814- ). James was born on 24 September 1814.(*3) He was christened on 2 October 1814 at St Thomas (RC) Bloxwich, Staffordshire. (abode Harden). Roman Catholic. Sponsors Richard YATES & Symphorosa YATES. I also have HALL in Great Barr - I'm not sure if that is "in region" or not, but if anybody has an interest in that name the info is at http://www.gencircles.com/users/pjrich/2/data/47 My last possible Black Country link is Elizabeth DILLORD who married John BUTCHARD at Edgbaston in 1797 - see http://www.gencircles.com/users/pjrich/2/data/3428. I do not have any positive link but a search on IGI (which I believe has most of the Birmingham parishes) turns up two possibles - both in Old Swinford. Elizabeth 1 chr 3 Dec 1775 daughter of William and Mary DILLARD Elizabeth 2 chr 13 Sep 1778 daughter of Thomas and Mary DILLARD Last time I was in Birmingham library I found a transcript of the Old Swinford register and there was an Elizabeth buried on 20th August 1776 which could be Elizabeth 1. That being so Elizabeth 2 seems the more likely. >From the above transcript I have formed a possible genealogy for both Elizabeths. Elizabeth 1 daughter of William DILLARD and Mary LOW who married 24th May 1771. There was also a William base born son of Elizabeth baptised on 9th July 1743. Elizabeth 2 daughter of Thomas DILLARD and Mary NEWBOROUGH who were married on 27th December 1770. Thomas Dillard baptised on 15 January 1743/44, son of Thomas Dillard & Rachel. Thomas baptised 28th March 1720, son of John & Elizabeth. Regards Peter

Dear List So good to see all the mails coming through again, so I take my chance to remind folks of my family interests - BURLEY - Quarry Bank, Kingswinford, Cradley Heath, Smethwick. LEIGHTON - Smethwick, W Bromwich GRIFFIN - Smethwick, W Bromwich WEBB - Langley, Wotton u Edge Glos. Would like to hear from anyone with connections to the above. Rob G Halesowen

Hi Paul, I've not had to look at registers for Darkhouse Chapel personally so don't know 'what' or 'where' without asking the Dudley Archives. Dudley do hold a transcript of burials for this chapel 1823-1830 according to the Black Country History online catalogue. Cheers Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bennett" <[email protected]> To: "Black Country Messages" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List > > > Carl are there records for Darkhouse Baptist Chapel. > > > > Paul > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:54:08 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List >> >> I was just about to reply to Paul's post and say the same about >> Providence >> Baptist graveyard, but Trevor has beaten me to it. I've got several >> relatives buried there. I know of one not-so-distant rellie still living >> in >> Sedgley who was so angered when he saw what was happening that he removed >> his grandparents' 1940s headstone from the graveyard and re-sited it in >> his >> front garden, and I don't blame him. It's a disgrace that living >> relatives >> whose families paid for memorials can't visit their dearly departed or >> tidy >> the graves themselves, and the site is now an overgrown eyesore. Surely >> this is doing more damage to headstones and the like than leaving it open >> access. >> >> Dudley Archives do at least hold the burial records to this chapel. Many >> worshippers from Roseville Methodist Church also chose to be buried here. >> >> Regards >> >> Carl >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Trevor Flavell" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List >> >> >> > >> > Paul >> > >> > Just as at Darkhouse Baptist here's a similar graveyard at Providence >> > Chapel. >> > >> > I have generations of Flavells buried there but can't get into the >> > graveyard. The church have the graveyard fenced off - for Health + >> > Safety >> > reasons! >> > >> > It's so frustrating that relatives can't get in to tend their family >> > graves. >> > Meanwhile the graves get more overgrown and decay while relatives who >> > are >> > willing to help care for the graveyard are kept out >> > >> > regards >> > >> > Trevor >> > -------------------------------------------------- >> > From: "Paul Bennett" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:54 PM >> > To: <[email protected]>; "Black Country Messages" >> > <[email protected]>; "Sedgley Roots web" >> > <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List >> > >> >> >> >> Christiana >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Would you know if Darkhouse Baptist Chapel in Coseley still has its >> >> cemerty itact. It was looking very delapidated the last time I saw it. >> >> I >> >> once asked the vicar if he had plans of who was buried there as I was >> >> trying to find my grand parents grave, but he said they had been >> >> stolen. >> >> Grave yards like that should be tended to and tided up. Not flattened >> >> and grassed over. If there is ever a project to clean up the place I >> >> would be there in a flash to help out. All my dads relations lived in >> >> that area. He was born in Darkhouse lane and worked at the Cannon. His >> >> mohers family lived in Siddons Road. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >>> From: [email protected] >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >>> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:45:05 +0100 >> >>> Subject: Re: [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List >> >>> >> >>> I have to say, much of my 'vast knowledge' comes via Ian, Carl, >> >>> Satima, >> >>> Tracy, etc etc, and Gloria herself, not to mention Trevor Genge and >> >>> others locally. >> >>> >> >>> Personally, I'm trying to catch up in the garden after all the bad >> >>> weather. Being 770 ft up, the snow stayed around longer than it did >> >>> even >> >>> a few hundred yards down Gospel End Road. Then there was mud - I went >> >>> up >> >>> to my ankles in it in one place while dog-walking. >> >>> >> >>> On Wednesday I was as far up the tower as I dare to go, then >> >>> yesterday I >> >>> took the Hamptons down into the crypt to see the front of their >> >>> Tamlyns' >> >>> vault. Good job I don't have any posh clothes. Church itself is very >> >>> presentable, but once you get into the 'backstage' areas, it's still >> >>> dust-covered limewash. The Wednesday exploit was with an >> >>> architectural >> >>> historian who's revising Pevsner Staffs, for the All Saints' entry. >> >>> No >> >>> conclusion was reachable on the date of the tower interior. I >> >>> couldn't >> >>> help him with the architect and date of Dormston House, previously >> >>> Sedgley Villa. I don't suppose anyone has anything on that? >> >>> >> >>> I've been very kindly lent some photos re the Swindells. Someone in >> >>> the >> >>> lender's family was housekeeper for the family in the 1920s, and the >> >>> pics >> >>> seem to be of around that date. I don't think anyone on the list is a >> >>> descendant or a rellie? I'm scanning the pics for our records, with a >> >>> copy to go down to Dudley Archives. Can send details if anyone thinks >> >>> they might be interested. (Two of the church interior are stamped >> >>> 1903 >> >>> on >> >>> the back.) >> >>> >> >>> Christine B >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ======================================== >> >>> Message Received: Mar 05 2010, 11:36 AM >> >>> From: "Gloria Hargreave" >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >>> Cc: >> >>> Subject: [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Paul, I watch patiently for queries to the List and relish the >> >>> following >> >>> flow of replies...it is such a great list and everyone is so helpful. >> >>> We are educated by Christine B ,with her vast knowledge of the area, >> >>> and >> >>> people such as Carl Higgs, Satima, Tracy and so on....I have had so >> >>> much >> >>> help and so many mysteries thought about, stewed over and suggestions >> >>> made...to help unravel my SMITHS and their peccadillos, by many of >> >>> the >> >>> Listers. This help is all invaluable . >> >>> For the moment, the List is quiet, even I haven' t sent a >> >>> query....still >> >>> trying to get into research mode after the Christmas season...but no >> >>> doubt, the emails will again flow soon...and we will all breathe a >> >>> collective sigh at the prospect of learning more, being able to help >> >>> someone, or even just enjoy the pleasure of reading all the emails. >> >>> and >> >>> the interesting replies. >> >>> Bouquets to you all. >> >>> Gloria >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >>> without >> >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >>> without >> >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? 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I've been tracing my husband's & my family histories for over 29 years & attempt to trace all descendants of all ancestors, so I'll post some of my husband's ancestor couples I'm interested in & hope more descendants pop out of the woodwork. For today, his Hamptons: Thomas Hampton + Elizabeth Ellis marr 8 May 1610 Dudley had chn Thomas, Katherine, Ann. Samuel & John. John Hampton bap 20 Oct 1626 St Edmonde's, Dudley + Mary marr 1647 had chn John, Elizabeth, Thomas, William, Richard, Elizabeth & James. John Hampton bap 2 Jul 1648 St Thomas, Dudley + Mary had chn Elizabeth, George, James, Joseph, Mary, Thomas, William & John. John Hampton bap 22 Jan 1671 St Thomas, Dudley + Mary Troman marr 1 Jun 1696 St Thomas, Dudley had chn Mary, John & William. John Hampton bap 3 Aug 1698 St Thomas, Dudley + Sarah Bodily marr 7 Jun 1720 St Thomas, Dudley had chn, James, Joseph, Richard, name unk, Mary & Ann. James Hampton bap 9 Apr 1721 St Thomas, Dudley + Ann Parkes marr 17 Oct 1743 St Thomas, Dudley had chn James, Phoebe, David, Daniel & Daniel. James Hampton bap 25 Aug 1745 St Thomas, Dudley + Sylvia Hancox/Hancocks marr 7 Jun 1767 St Thomas, Dudley had chn James, Herbert, Ann, Sylvia, Sylvia, Esther, Phillis, Daniel, Mary & Jabez. James Hampton bap 17 Jun 1770 St Thomas, Dudley + Mary Heathcock marr 19 Dec 1790 Parish Church Pedmore had chn James, Susannah, Joseph, Herbert, Sylvia, David, Elijah, Enoch, Mary, Joseph, Benjamin, Sarah, Tamar & Eli. Sylvia Hampton bap 3 Mar 1799 Dudley + Daniel Gill marr 27 May 1817 St Thomas, Dudley had chn Thomas, Elizabeth, Mary, James, Joseph, Ann, Daniel, Susannah, Benjamin & William. Denyse in Queensland

I have not 100% sure a Lydia Law born Tipton who married a Joseph Taylor also Tipton Cassy List Owner Griffiths , List Admin BC Wolverhampton , Potteries ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ducie Hood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:31 AM Subject: [Black Country] Roll Call > Hi Listers, > > Have been looking but not contributing as I have a sick husband who needs > constant care. > Hopefully I will be able to get back into family history more regularly. > > My Relatives: > > LAW Sedgley, Tipton, West Bromwich, Cheshire > Associated names with Law: Underwood, Summerhill, Stedman, Dudley, > Tranter, Hartill > > HARROLD Tipton, West Bromwich, Warwick, Dudley, Birmingham, London > > HATHAWAY Aston, Birmingham, Tipton, -- John b.1830 was the Licensee of > the Shakespeare Hotel, Bridge Rd, Tipton > > HARTILL Tipton, Sedgley, Princes End, > Associated names with Hartill: Turner, Turner, Cornfield, Wright, Law > > Have a great day >>From Down Under > Ducie > NSW Australia > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 391 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2724 - Release Date: 03/05/10 13:26:00

Hi Sue Big thanks for this it is the right one , how you found it I dont know has I really looked Thanks for this Cassy Cassy List Owner Griffiths , List Admin BC Wolverhampton , Potteries ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Carpenter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 28 > In reply to Cassy's query about a record of her Gt grandmothers death > there is the following in the GRO index > > Emily Franklin aged 74 Oldbury 6c 78 Qtr2 1939 > > is this the one you are looking for? > > Can't find a marriage though, they may not have married of course, just > because it says so on the 1911 census doesnt mean they did > or they may have married much later but put the right number of years so > as to be before the eldest child birth > This happened with my Gt Grandfather and his 2nd wife. > > hope this has helped > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2724 - Release Date: 03/05/10 13:26:00

Hi all: Would like to know more about children of Titus Pearson and Sarah Weaver, married 23 Dec 1838 at St. Thomas in Dudley. William PEARSON born 4 May 1839 in Dudley, married Selina Homer 3 Oct 1859, St. Edmund's, emigrated 25 Nov 1882 on Catalonia to Illinois or Missouri, USA. (Direct ancestor). Died in Missouri. Coal miner. Sobieski PEARSON born 16 Nov 1840. No further information. Job PEARSON born 1842, died same year. Titus PEARSON, born 26 Jul 1843, emigrated 25 Nov 1882 on Catalonia. Returned to England. Harriet PEARSON. born about 1846 (1851 census). No further information. Edward PEARSON born Jul 1848. Died 5 May 1918 Peru, Illinois, USA. Married Sarah Emily Jones on 30 Jan 1870 at St. Thomas in Dudley. Emigrated to Illinois 25 Oct 1881 on City of Rome. Benjamin PEARSON born about 1854. John PEARSON born about 1855 married Anna Maria Smith and had son George before emigrating about 1881. Lived in Seatonville, Illinois. Moved to Roslyn, Washington, USA. He died 1900 in Roslyn. Sarah PEARSON born about 1855, living with brother William in 1871. Parents were probably deceased. William had son, Job PEARSON, emigrated 1881 to Illinois, married Rose BURCHELL of Halesowen. His mother and three brothers emigrated in 1885 on the Baltic. Researching PEARSON, WEAVER, BIRCHELL, HOMER, HURLEY Marsha St. Louis, Missouri, USA

Hi Jane, My mom, Mary W. R. DINGLEY, was born in Birmingham; Her Father was Henry DINGLEY b. 1841 in Quinton, Wor. Some of his descendants are still in the Birmingham area. Harry ----- Original Message ---- From: JANE DYER <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 5:50:10 AM Subject: Re: [Black Country] ROLL CALL hi, I have Dingleys from Birmingham, my grandmother was a Dingley Jane Honey --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Harry Vincett <[email protected]> wrote: From: Harry Vincett <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Black Country] ROLL CALL To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:36 Hi All, I am searching for new information on my Mothers family the DINGLEYS from the Halesowen area. The oldest known ancestor I am sure of is William DINGLEY who was born, we believe, 12 Jan, 1755 the son of Edward DINGLEY Sarah in Barston, Warwick, England. William had two wives, Nancy (Ann) PRIEST (b.1750;m.1779;d.1798) and Sarah KEEMING (b.1774;m.1798).   William lived in the Halesowen area, and my Gr Grandfather Samuel DINGLEY (b.1794 in Halesowen) had a farm near Quinton. There were also some VINCETTs in the area, but we haven’t been able to connect them with the rest of the VINCETT line. Harry In Klamath Falls, Oregon, USA

hi, I have Dingleys from Birmingham, my grandmother was a Dingley Jane Honey --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Harry Vincett <[email protected]> wrote: From: Harry Vincett <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Black Country] ROLL CALL To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:36 Hi All, I am searching for new information on my Mothers family the DINGLEYS from the Halesowen area. The oldest known ancestor I am sure of is William DINGLEY who was born, we believe, 12 Jan, 1755 the son of Edward DINGLEY Sarah in Barston, Warwick, England. William had two wives, Nancy (Ann) PRIEST (b.1750;m.1779;d.1798) and Sarah KEEMING (b.1774;m.1798).   William lived in the Halesowen area, and my Gr Grandfather Samuel DINGLEY (b.1794 in Halesowen) had a farm near Quinton. There were also some VINCETTs in the area, but we haven’t been able to connect them with the rest of the VINCETT line. Harry In Klamath Falls, Oregon, USA ----- Original Message ---- From: cassy <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 1:00:09 PM Subject: [Black Country] ROLL CALL Hi All We have  not had a roll call  for ages  so these are a few Cassy List Owner Griffiths , List Admin  BC Wolverhampton , Potteries ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi, I have Fosters from Wednesbury, I'll have a look & see if there are any matches Jane Honey --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Maggie Smith <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maggie Smith <[email protected]> Subject: [Black Country] The Foster Family in Tipton To: "Black Country" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 8:12 Hello everybody - lovely to see so many messages. I'm concentrating at the moment on my Fosters in Tipton - connected to Cassy's Taylors I have Thomas Foster, born in 1858 in Wednesbury who married Ann Williams in 1877 at St Martins in Tipton Children are : Thomas Foster - born 1878 in Tipton, who married Mary Jane Taylor in 1900 at St Marks, Tipton William Foster - born 1881 in Tipton - Can't find a marriage or a death Joseph Foster - born 1883 in Tipton - who married Eliza Ann Walker in 1905 at St Martins in Tipton Benjamin Foster - born in 1886 in Tipton - who married Emily Walker in 1915 at St Marks, Tipton (sister of Eliza Ann) I already have most of the information available on these children and their offspring, but would love to hear from anyone who may be related. Also - My mom's stepmother - Gertrude Annie Foster, daughter of Thomas Foster and Mary Jane Taylor married again after the death of my grandfather in 1942.  She married John Thomas Myers in 1943 at St Martins in Tipton.  The marriage gives his father as Francis Myers, Tradesman (deceased).  John Thomas (known as Jack) disappeared after his wife's death in 1946.  I have no idea where he was born or if he remarried.  I'd love to hear from anyone with any information on this missing person. Many thanks - Maggie http://thesaltfamily.tribalpages.com/ www.familytrails.net Researching :  SALT, BARKLAM/BARTLAM, LOWE, JONES, RILEY, DEAN, SAUNDERS, BURBRIDGE, BURNS, BROWN, FOSTER, HUMPHRIES, STACKHOUSE, SCANLON, SHIRLEY, WEAVER, BENNETT ------------------------------------- The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, Have been looking but not contributing as I have a sick husband who needs constant care. Hopefully I will be able to get back into family history more regularly. My Relatives: LAW Sedgley, Tipton, West Bromwich, Cheshire Associated names with Law: Underwood, Summerhill, Stedman, Dudley, Tranter, Hartill HARROLD Tipton, West Bromwich, Warwick, Dudley, Birmingham, London HATHAWAY Aston, Birmingham, Tipton, -- John b.1830 was the Licensee of the Shakespeare Hotel, Bridge Rd, Tipton HARTILL Tipton, Sedgley, Princes End, Associated names with Hartill: Turner, Turner, Cornfield, Wright, Law Have a great day >From Down Under Ducie NSW Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 391 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Research Interests: Smith: Edward Smith DOB 1853, Patrick Smith DOB 1831 in Dublin Ricketts: Ruth 1859 - 1937, William Rickets 1795 - 1871, John Ricketts DOB 1757 Tancred: Rosannah Tancred 1833 Dublin - 1896 Walsall Higgs: Margaret married to John Ricketts Bickerton: Levi Bickerton DOB bef 1850 Stich: Ann Stich married to Levi Bickerton With the help of a cousin (really based almost 100% on her creativity and ingeniousness) we have been tracing my grandfather's family and ancestors. My grandfather was Thomas Henry Smith, but after he left England for the United State he used his stepfather's name Rownes. My mother's entire family included Thomas's wife NEVER knew that his biological father's name was Smith. Thomas, was born in Bradford, Bowling, York on Feb. 12, 1887. He left for the US aboard the Empress of Britain on 5th Sept. 1907 bound for Quebec. Thomas's father was Edward Smith. His mother was Ruth Ricketts. Edward's father was Patrick who came from Dublin, Ireland. We think that Thomas left for the US because he had an altercation with his stepfather. We've been trying to find a way to search for a news article or police report to see if there were any such altercations noted in the press in or around Wolverhampton at that time. We've heard that he left for the US after a violent fight ended very badly. We don't know. We also think he left using a program offered by a Canadian coal mining company recruiting miners for their Glace Bay coal mining operations.

Carl are there records for Darkhouse Baptist Chapel. Paul > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:54:08 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List > > I was just about to reply to Paul's post and say the same about Providence > Baptist graveyard, but Trevor has beaten me to it. I've got several > relatives buried there. I know of one not-so-distant rellie still living in > Sedgley who was so angered when he saw what was happening that he removed > his grandparents' 1940s headstone from the graveyard and re-sited it in his > front garden, and I don't blame him. It's a disgrace that living relatives > whose families paid for memorials can't visit their dearly departed or tidy > the graves themselves, and the site is now an overgrown eyesore. Surely > this is doing more damage to headstones and the like than leaving it open > access. > > Dudley Archives do at least hold the burial records to this chapel. Many > worshippers from Roseville Methodist Church also chose to be buried here. > > Regards > > Carl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trevor Flavell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List > > > > > > Paul > > > > Just as at Darkhouse Baptist here's a similar graveyard at Providence > > Chapel. > > > > I have generations of Flavells buried there but can't get into the > > graveyard. The church have the graveyard fenced off - for Health + Safety > > reasons! > > > > It's so frustrating that relatives can't get in to tend their family > > graves. > > Meanwhile the graves get more overgrown and decay while relatives who are > > willing to help care for the graveyard are kept out > > > > regards > > > > Trevor > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Paul Bennett" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:54 PM > > To: <[email protected]>; "Black Country Messages" > > <[email protected]>; "Sedgley Roots web" > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List > > > >> > >> Christiana > >> > >> > >> > >> Would you know if Darkhouse Baptist Chapel in Coseley still has its > >> cemerty itact. It was looking very delapidated the last time I saw it. > >> I > >> once asked the vicar if he had plans of who was buried there as I was > >> trying to find my grand parents grave, but he said they had been stolen. > >> Grave yards like that should be tended to and tided up. Not flattened > >> and grassed over. If there is ever a project to clean up the place I > >> would be there in a flash to help out. All my dads relations lived in > >> that area. He was born in Darkhouse lane and worked at the Cannon. His > >> mohers family lived in Siddons Road. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> Paul > >> > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:45:05 +0100 > >>> Subject: Re: [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List > >>> > >>> I have to say, much of my 'vast knowledge' comes via Ian, Carl, Satima, > >>> Tracy, etc etc, and Gloria herself, not to mention Trevor Genge and > >>> others locally. > >>> > >>> Personally, I'm trying to catch up in the garden after all the bad > >>> weather. Being 770 ft up, the snow stayed around longer than it did even > >>> a few hundred yards down Gospel End Road. Then there was mud - I went up > >>> to my ankles in it in one place while dog-walking. > >>> > >>> On Wednesday I was as far up the tower as I dare to go, then yesterday I > >>> took the Hamptons down into the crypt to see the front of their Tamlyns' > >>> vault. Good job I don't have any posh clothes. Church itself is very > >>> presentable, but once you get into the 'backstage' areas, it's still > >>> dust-covered limewash. The Wednesday exploit was with an architectural > >>> historian who's revising Pevsner Staffs, for the All Saints' entry. No > >>> conclusion was reachable on the date of the tower interior. I couldn't > >>> help him with the architect and date of Dormston House, previously > >>> Sedgley Villa. I don't suppose anyone has anything on that? > >>> > >>> I've been very kindly lent some photos re the Swindells. Someone in the > >>> lender's family was housekeeper for the family in the 1920s, and the > >>> pics > >>> seem to be of around that date. I don't think anyone on the list is a > >>> descendant or a rellie? I'm scanning the pics for our records, with a > >>> copy to go down to Dudley Archives. Can send details if anyone thinks > >>> they might be interested. (Two of the church interior are stamped 1903 > >>> on > >>> the back.) > >>> > >>> Christine B > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ======================================== > >>> Message Received: Mar 05 2010, 11:36 AM > >>> From: "Gloria Hargreave" > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Cc: > >>> Subject: [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List > >>> > >>> > >>> Paul, I watch patiently for queries to the List and relish the following > >>> flow of replies...it is such a great list and everyone is so helpful. > >>> We are educated by Christine B ,with her vast knowledge of the area, and > >>> people such as Carl Higgs, Satima, Tracy and so on....I have had so much > >>> help and so many mysteries thought about, stewed over and suggestions > >>> made...to help unravel my SMITHS and their peccadillos, by many of the > >>> Listers. This help is all invaluable . > >>> For the moment, the List is quiet, even I haven' t sent a query....still > >>> trying to get into research mode after the Christmas season...but no > >>> doubt, the emails will again flow soon...and we will all breathe a > >>> collective sigh at the prospect of learning more, being able to help > >>> someone, or even just enjoy the pleasure of reading all the emails. and > >>> the interesting replies. > >>> Bouquets to you all. > >>> Gloria > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? 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Hello everyone - not been posting because I've been concentrating on another side of the family. Here are my Black Country names: BARRATT Birmingham from 1860: Smethwick from 1930 DANCER Oldswinford/Kinver/Hagley up to 1860: Smethwick from 1860 FELLOWS Not the Sedgley or Dudley Fellows! These originate from Liverpool, went to Halesowen by 1841, then Balsall Heath in 1891 Census, then West Bromwich/Smethwick. GOODES Birmingham 1861 - Smethwick from 1909 ROBINSON This bunch are my real brick wall, as they disowned my grandmother so completely I can't even find her parents with certainty! I know May Florence was in Birmingham in 1901 age 7, with John Robinson her father. In 1909 she married John Goodes in Smethwick. I think she was born in Lichfield in 1893. WHEWAY Any and all - we're all related! Thank you for your help! -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Hello everybody - lovely to see so many messages. I'm concentrating at the moment on my Fosters in Tipton - connected to Cassy's Taylors I have Thomas Foster, born in 1858 in Wednesbury who married Ann Williams in 1877 at St Martins in Tipton Children are : Thomas Foster - born 1878 in Tipton, who married Mary Jane Taylor in 1900 at St Marks, Tipton William Foster - born 1881 in Tipton - Can't find a marriage or a death Joseph Foster - born 1883 in Tipton - who married Eliza Ann Walker in 1905 at St Martins in Tipton Benjamin Foster - born in 1886 in Tipton - who married Emily Walker in 1915 at St Marks, Tipton (sister of Eliza Ann) I already have most of the information available on these children and their offspring, but would love to hear from anyone who may be related. Also - My mom's stepmother - Gertrude Annie Foster, daughter of Thomas Foster and Mary Jane Taylor married again after the death of my grandfather in 1942. She married John Thomas Myers in 1943 at St Martins in Tipton. The marriage gives his father as Francis Myers, Tradesman (deceased). John Thomas (known as Jack) disappeared after his wife's death in 1946. I have no idea where he was born or if he remarried. I'd love to hear from anyone with any information on this missing person. Many thanks - Maggie http://thesaltfamily.tribalpages.com/ www.familytrails.net Researching : SALT, BARKLAM/BARTLAM, LOWE, JONES, RILEY, DEAN, SAUNDERS, BURBRIDGE, BURNS, BROWN, FOSTER, HUMPHRIES, STACKHOUSE, SCANLON, SHIRLEY, WEAVER, BENNETT

Hi,   I am researching the following:   WILLIAM JAMES - Hay on Wye, Breconshire, Herefordshire, Wales, Butcher   THOMAS JAMES - b. Abt. 1817, Hay on Wye, Breconshire, Herefordshire, Wales, m. MARY ANN (WELSH) HALL at Christ Church Cosley, Sedgley, Stafford, England, res. Bloomfield, he  d. bet 1881-1891 possibly Birmingham, England, her father WILLIAM WELSH, Labourer. They lived on Chapel Street, St. James, Handsworth, Eng. Their Children:   LEWIS JAMES, b. 30/5/1850, Bloomfield, Tipton, Dudley, Stafford. m. ALICE EMILY  RENSHAW, Church of St. Mark, Birmingham, Warwick, Eng. he d. bet. 1900-1910 in Boston, MA, Suffolk, USA. (My Line) SARAH JAMES, b. 1853, Bloomfield, Tipton, Handsworth, Stafford. Eng. LOUISA JAMES b. 1859, Bloomfield, Tipton, Handsworth, Stafford., Worcest., Eng. SOPHIA JAMES b. bet. 1860-1861, Handsworth, St. James, Dudley, Birmingham, Stafford, Worcest., Eng. CAROLINE JAMES b. 1863, Bloomfield, Handsworth, Stafford. Eng. CHARLOTTE JAMES b. 1864, Handsworth, St. James, Dudley, Birmingham, Stafford, Worcest., Eng., m. PHILIP NICHOLAS GILBERT, 25 Nov 1888, West Bromwich, Shropshire, she d. 10 Oct 1908, Workhouse Infirmary, Selly Oak, Birmingham, EMILY JAMES b. 1865, Handsworth, St. James,  Birmingham, Stafford, Eng. ALICE JAMES b. 1869, Handsworth, St. James,  Birmingham, Stafford, Eng.   LEWIS JAMES, b. 30/5/1850, Bloomfield, Tipton, Dudley, Stafford. m. ALICE EMILY  RENSHAW, Church of St. Mark, Birmingham, Warwick, Eng. he d. bet. 1900-1910 in Boston, MA, Suffolk, USA. (My Line) Their Children:   ALBERT E. JAMES, b. abt. 1875, Birmingham, Eng., d. 1901, Boston, MA, Suffolk, USA HELEN MARION (JAMES) MACLEOD, b. abt. 1877, Birmingham, Eng., d. 21 Jun 1969, Natick, MA, USA WILLIAM FRANCIS JAMES, b. Abt. 1879, Birmingham, Eng., d. 28 Jan. 1968, Meriden, CT, USA, (my line, I haven't found his birth certificate in Birmingham) LEWIS JAMES, b. 29 Jun 1882, Providence, RI, USA THOMAS JAMES, b. 05 Dec. 1884, Providence, RI, USA WALTER FRANCIS JAMES, b. 25 Dec 1887, Providence, RI, USA LEWIS JAMES, b. 20 May, 1888, Providence, RI, USA ALICE EMILY JAMES, b. 02 Oct 1890, Providence, RI, USA   Happy Hunting! Nancy USA              

I was just about to reply to Paul's post and say the same about Providence Baptist graveyard, but Trevor has beaten me to it. I've got several relatives buried there. I know of one not-so-distant rellie still living in Sedgley who was so angered when he saw what was happening that he removed his grandparents' 1940s headstone from the graveyard and re-sited it in his front garden, and I don't blame him. It's a disgrace that living relatives whose families paid for memorials can't visit their dearly departed or tidy the graves themselves, and the site is now an overgrown eyesore. Surely this is doing more damage to headstones and the like than leaving it open access. Dudley Archives do at least hold the burial records to this chapel. Many worshippers from Roseville Methodist Church also chose to be buried here. Regards Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Flavell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List > > Paul > > Just as at Darkhouse Baptist here's a similar graveyard at Providence > Chapel. > > I have generations of Flavells buried there but can't get into the > graveyard. The church have the graveyard fenced off - for Health + Safety > reasons! > > It's so frustrating that relatives can't get in to tend their family > graves. > Meanwhile the graves get more overgrown and decay while relatives who are > willing to help care for the graveyard are kept out > > regards > > Trevor > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Paul Bennett" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:54 PM > To: <[email protected]>; "Black Country Messages" > <[email protected]>; "Sedgley Roots web" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Black Country] [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List > >> >> Christiana >> >> >> >> Would you know if Darkhouse Baptist Chapel in Coseley still has its >> cemerty itact. It was looking very delapidated the last time I saw it. >> I >> once asked the vicar if he had plans of who was buried there as I was >> trying to find my grand parents grave, but he said they had been stolen. >> Grave yards like that should be tended to and tided up. Not flattened >> and grassed over. If there is ever a project to clean up the place I >> would be there in a flash to help out. All my dads relations lived in >> that area. He was born in Darkhouse lane and worked at the Cannon. His >> mohers family lived in Siddons Road. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> Paul >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:45:05 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List >>> >>> I have to say, much of my 'vast knowledge' comes via Ian, Carl, Satima, >>> Tracy, etc etc, and Gloria herself, not to mention Trevor Genge and >>> others locally. >>> >>> Personally, I'm trying to catch up in the garden after all the bad >>> weather. Being 770 ft up, the snow stayed around longer than it did even >>> a few hundred yards down Gospel End Road. Then there was mud - I went up >>> to my ankles in it in one place while dog-walking. >>> >>> On Wednesday I was as far up the tower as I dare to go, then yesterday I >>> took the Hamptons down into the crypt to see the front of their Tamlyns' >>> vault. Good job I don't have any posh clothes. Church itself is very >>> presentable, but once you get into the 'backstage' areas, it's still >>> dust-covered limewash. The Wednesday exploit was with an architectural >>> historian who's revising Pevsner Staffs, for the All Saints' entry. No >>> conclusion was reachable on the date of the tower interior. I couldn't >>> help him with the architect and date of Dormston House, previously >>> Sedgley Villa. I don't suppose anyone has anything on that? >>> >>> I've been very kindly lent some photos re the Swindells. Someone in the >>> lender's family was housekeeper for the family in the 1920s, and the >>> pics >>> seem to be of around that date. I don't think anyone on the list is a >>> descendant or a rellie? I'm scanning the pics for our records, with a >>> copy to go down to Dudley Archives. Can send details if anyone thinks >>> they might be interested. (Two of the church interior are stamped 1903 >>> on >>> the back.) >>> >>> Christine B >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ======================================== >>> Message Received: Mar 05 2010, 11:36 AM >>> From: "Gloria Hargreave" >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: >>> Subject: [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] Emails to List >>> >>> >>> Paul, I watch patiently for queries to the List and relish the following >>> flow of replies...it is such a great list and everyone is so helpful. >>> We are educated by Christine B ,with her vast knowledge of the area, and >>> people such as Carl Higgs, Satima, Tracy and so on....I have had so much >>> help and so many mysteries thought about, stewed over and suggestions >>> made...to help unravel my SMITHS and their peccadillos, by many of the >>> Listers. This help is all invaluable . >>> For the moment, the List is quiet, even I haven' t sent a query....still >>> trying to get into research mode after the Christmas season...but no >>> doubt, the emails will again flow soon...and we will all breathe a >>> collective sigh at the prospect of learning more, being able to help >>> someone, or even just enjoy the pleasure of reading all the emails. and >>> the interesting replies. >>> Bouquets to you all. >>> Gloria >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ >> ------------------------------------- >> The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. >> Run >> by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In reply to Cassy's query about a record of her Gt grandmothers death there is the following in the GRO index Emily Franklin aged 74 Oldbury 6c 78 Qtr2 1939 is this the one you are looking for? Can't find a marriage though, they may not have married of course, just because it says so on the 1911 census doesnt mean they did or they may have married much later but put the right number of years so as to be before the eldest child birth This happened with my Gt Grandfather and his 2nd wife. hope this has helped Sue

Hi All, I am searching for new information on my Mothers family the DINGLEYS from the Halesowen area. The oldest known ancestor I am sure of is William DINGLEY who was born, we believe, 12 Jan, 1755 the son of Edward DINGLEY Sarah in Barston, Warwick, England. William had two wives, Nancy (Ann) PRIEST (b.1750;m.1779;d.1798) and Sarah KEEMING (b.1774;m.1798).   William lived in the Halesowen area, and my Gr Grandfather Samuel DINGLEY (b.1794 in Halesowen) had a farm near Quinton. There were also some VINCETTs in the area, but we haven’t been able to connect them with the rest of the VINCETT line. Harry In Klamath Falls, Oregon, USA ----- Original Message ---- From: cassy <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 1:00:09 PM Subject: [Black Country] ROLL CALL Hi All We have  not had a roll call  for ages  so these are a few Cassy List Owner Griffiths , List Admin  BC Wolverhampton , Potteries

Hi Yorkie if you had seen what they had put down for my Thomas Cave Franklin and Harriet Warner you would believe anythink after that , luckly I had it striaght from St Albans Reg Office and the lady there had the parish records for it , other wise It would of been one of those lost forever What my Emily Whitehouse is down has also her parents wedding William Whirehouse and Jane Hill the mind boddles Cassy List Owner Griffiths , List Admin BC Wolverhampton , Potteries ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [Black Country] Death look up > Have searched Ancestry and couldn't find anything except a strange entry > for a marriage of a Thomas Franklin in 1874 Birmingham to a Emily Paypell. > Strange name. I have looked at the 'original' entry and it is a typed one > - so I am just wondering if someone has mis-read or mis-typed an > handwritten > entry, although I reckon it would take quite a long stretch of the > imagination to make that mistake. > > Yorkie > ------------------------------------- > The only List that specifically covers the whole of the Black Country. Run > by Black Country folk who were born and still live in the area. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2724 - Release Date: 03/05/10 13:26:00