Angela, Below is my original notice and responses from folks in Banbury. I have also included the follow up info which I am trying to sort through. Please forgive my abrupt request for surnames. I did not realize that my other messages had not be posted to your page as I had asked that they be forwarded. I hope that you will be able to help with finding my British ancestors. I have several branches leading there but the DEATH family is the only branch with an actual location attached to the name. So here is what I have so far. I welcome all help on how to procede with researching 'across the pond'. Below is my first e-mail and the responses from England I am trying to locate information about the parents of Nellie Death, my | great grandmother. I only have a few clues about them. Nellie was born in England | March 8, 1860. I do not know where. I have a memorial card for Elizabeth | Death who died Dec 11,1868 in Banbury, interred at Chipping Warden. She was born | in 1821 but I do not know where. I believe her husband's name was William and | I have no information on him at all. I live in the US and I do not know how | to further research this family. I thought that since Elizabeth was buried in | Banbury, Nellie may have been born there. Nellie eventually came to NJ where | she married Henry T. Benjamin around 1880. She died in Hawthorne, NJ Jan | 22.1936. Does anyone have an info on this family or suggestions about where I | can check for other leads? | Phyllis Benjamin Kent | Subj: Re: DEATH Family Date: 8/15/04 4:29:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: _banbury@prob.freeserve.co.uk_ (mailto:banbury@prob.freeserve.co.uk) To: _PKentCALD@aol.com_ (mailto:PKentCALD@aol.com) Sent from the Internet _(Details)_ (aolmsg://06d87c10/inethdr/2) Hi Phyllis, You sent a message to the very new Banburyshire website about your DEATH family. I have very little information about the area: I just *volunteered* to set the site up. But Brenda Anderson has found some information that may be of use to you: If you care to join the Banbury-Area mailing list, you can easily ask further questions (you may or may not get any answers!) and they are a very friendly, but quirky bunch :-)) Hope to hear from you, Rosemary, Northumberland UK ............................................................ Webmaster for Banburyshire Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/index.htm Email: banbury@prob.freeserve.co.uk ............................................................ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:15:04 +1200 Subject: Re: [BAN] DEATH Family From: "Gary & Brenda Anderson" <gary.brenda@xtra.co.nz> To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Rosemary, I've had a snoop around for this lady and her family. I found her and her husband Henry Benjamin in Paterson, NJ, in the 1880 census. They had a young son, Henry T. Benjamin (jr?). (Year: 1880; Census Place: Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey; Roll: T9_795; Family History Film: 1254795; Page: 67C; Enumeration District: 153; Image: 0136.) I also looked her up in the 1930 census for New Jersey, and sure enough she is there, age 69, widowed, born in England. An important fact is that she emigrated to the US in 1872. I thought this seemed a bit young for her to come on her own. Working on the theory that perhaps she came over with some rellies, I had a look again in the NJ census for any DEATH family. Sure enough, I found a William DEATH, age 45, and his wife Margarett, age 40, both born in England, and also living in Paterson. (Year: 1880; Census Place: Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey; Roll: T9_796; Family History Film: 1254796; Page: 364B; Enumeration District: 167; Image: 0512.) Could this be Nellie's father and stepmother? This might give someone more information to work with. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Brenda NZ From: "Spencer Allen" <angela-ban@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: [BAN] DEATH Family Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:15:21 +0100 To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Hi Rosemary, Here's a start for Phyllis ........... Elizabeth may have 'died' in Banbury but she is 'buried' in Chipping Warden - so it will be recorded in C.W. PR's I have taken a digi pic of Elizabeth's grave which I will send you later to pass onto Phyllis - headstone reads .......... *IAR of Elizabeth beloved wife of William Death who departed this life December 11th 1868 aged 47? years* But then if William (found by Brenda) in the NJ 1880 census was the husband of Elizabeth -from the dates we are working with she would have been 14 yrs older than Wm - possible I know! If Phyllis does not have a marriage for Wm & Eliz. -- probably that was also at CW & she was of the DOUGLAS family, as her grave is surrounded by DOUGLAS family members -- a big CW family name. I don't have the records for CW - but COBS holds them - will try & look in the week for further info. Would Phyllis like to join our group?? Rosemary and Brenda, Thank you for your help in researching my family. I missed this info in the 1930 census and I'm so grateful for your logical thinking on this. I had thought that Elizabeth was Nellie's mother. She may have been her grandmother since she was born around 1821! How did you know that they emigrated in 1872? I have photos of this family taken in Banbury by W.H.Dodds,The Green,Banbury, which would most likely be before they emigrated. Nellie is with a young woman (her mother?) and she appears to be 8-10 years old, which would fit with the emigration date. I have a photo of the grave and one of William and another of an older woman(grandmother?). Also kept with these photos was a paper (a death card) with Elizabeth's tombstone inscription. I have some other pieces of information which I need to check out. According to the freeBMD, a William Death was born 15 Sep1836 in Lawshall, Suffolk, England. This would fit with the 1880 census info. This online record shows William's parents as Robert Death and Mary Hill. This does not match the gravestone of Elizabeth Death, "beloved wife of William". So either this is the wrong William or the Elizabeth as grandmother theory is wrong. It may be possible that Elizabeth was Nellie's mother and Margaret is her aunt,sister of William.Of course, William could have remarried (Margaret). Along this line, I found a William Stadley Death married Elizabeth Foulsham in December 1858 in the district Forehoe,Norfolk. My Nellie was born in 8Mar1860. I found an Elizabeth Emma Death born Mar1860 in Forehoe (4b 185 in freeBMD) who would fit nicely, except for the name. Nellie may have been a nickname if she was named after her mother. This Elizabeth Foulsham was born Mar1838 in Forehoe(13,127), which would make her similar in age to William. This does not match the gravestone though as Elizabeth died at 47 in 1868 per her tombstone. FreeBMD has a number of other possibilities for Nellie but this looked the most promising. Are there census available on line for this area that I could maybe verify Nellie's family between 1860 - 1872? Do you have any thoughts,suggestions, or information that might help me sort this out? Best regards, Phyllis Kent _PKentCald@aol.com_ (mailto:PKentCald@aol.com) PS I would like to join the Banbury page to continue my search. Hello Phyllis, You asked how I knew that Nellie emigrated in 1872. That was shown in the 1930 census. I can send you a copy of the page if you'd like. I don't think there are any online census records for Banbury for the 1861 census, but I know that some folks on the Banbury list do have the microfiche/index for that year and might be able to find the family. I checked the 1852 Banbury directory but there was no DEATH listed. This might fit with the family originating in Norfolk, as you've found in the BMD. I suspect the William Death you found born in Lawshall, Suffolk, might not be yours. In the 1871 census, there is a 34-year old William DEATH living in Lawsall, married to an older woman, Rachel, age 50, who was probably a widow, as they have 3 children with a different surname listed as children. I'll keep an eye out for any more information that might help. Let me know about the census page. Kind regards, Brenda Masterton, New Zealand http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kiwikids/ ----------------- Forwarded Message: |

Phyllis, 1851 census Norfolk: Wm. DEATH (17) b.Preston, Suffolk Vet surgeon's apprentice. Lodging at Inn, St.Nicholas Street, Diss. HO/107/1821 F.405 p.24 Film 0207474 Eliz. FOULSHAM (U) 31. b.Wymondham. Servant. Golden Ball St., Norwich. HO/107/1814 F.167 p.1 Film 0207467 Much more hopeful as a wife for William? Eliz. FOULSHAM 15 b.Wymondham. Servant, lodging with James Smith at Lizard(?), Forehoe. HO/107/1817 F.365. p.8 Film: 0207470 There is also yet another EF, 16, b.E.Bilney, and visiting at Brisley. HTH Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: <PKentCALD@aol.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:57 AM Subject: [BAN] DEATH Family in Banbury