Hello Denise, Thanks for your post about the chapel, but the one on Warwick Road - actually No.130 - was a Baptist chapel run by Mr. and Mrs. Elliott who lived at No. 148. I lived at No. 140. More or less opposite the Duke of Wellington pub. From Bob Sangster's description of the Bank, the houses were demolished to make way for the present houses between the Baptist chapel and No. 166 Warwick Road where the Neithrop Hospital started followed by the Workhouse which ran to the bottom of Ruscote Avenue. I know Mold's chapel in Boxhedge Road, very well. My parents were Methodists and sent me off to Sunday School there twice on Sundays from the age of four! I continued until I became a rebellious teenager. I knew all the Molds you mentioned. Margaret married George Jarvis, who was a teacher at the chapel. Kath and Phyllis never married. I remember Phyllis working in Kingerlee's store in Parsons Street - a bit like Mrs. Slocombe in 'Are you being served'! I think Kath worked in Goodenough's the agricultural merchants in the Market Place. In answer to another of your posts, yes I did deliver in Gibbs Road. I worked for Lichfield's newsagents near the canal/railway bridge. I eventually aspired to the dizzy height of head paperboy, which meant starting at 5 am, sorting papers and writing on the numbers ready for the paperboys coming in. Any that didn't turn up I had to deliver their round. I often did the West Street, Gibbs Road, Grimsbury Square round. Also a certain Paul Francis Gadd did the Causeway round and he never came when it was raining! You might know him as Gary Glitter!!! By the way I have a lot of Howes in my tree all descended from William Howes c1788 and Kezziah Brooks c1788-1869. She was the sister of my 3x great grandfather John Brooks 1791-1875. Are you on Genes Reunited? If so I can open my tree for you. Regards Barry 2009/7/25 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > **************************************** > If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote > only the specific message to which you are replying, and remove the rest of > the digest. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it matches the > subject of the message to which you are replying. > ~ Thank you. > **************************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 157 (Barry Dunwoody) > 2. Re: ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 157 (M HOWES) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:01:44 +1000 > From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BAN] ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 157 > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <56229b940907240501q6b5ff97cs6999a0be29f45d0@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello Mary and Bob, > Many thanks for both your replies. > Sorry Mary, I think my original question may have caused confusion. The > Bank, Neithrop was actually a row of houses. The houses built to the north > of Middleton Road which is in Grimsbury were financed by Cobb's Bank - a > financial institution. However your post brought back many memories. I was > born in Banbury and delivered newspapers as a boy in the 1950's to most of > the streets you mentioned > Bob, your answer was brilliant as it triggered a memory. The chapel you > mentioned belonged to the Baptist church and I was born in the fifth house > to the west of it and lived there with my parents until the mid 1960's. I > remember an old lady asking my mother where we lived and when she told her, > the lady said "oh in the posh houses up the bank"!!! I thought she meant > because the houses (built in the 1920's or 30's by John Broughton the > builder) were raised up above the road. > The reason for my original question was because my 2x great grandfather > John > Brookes b1819, who came from a long line of Ag. Lab's in Hinton Hamlet, > Northants, moved with his family to live in the Bank between 1851 and 1855 > and became a general labourer. I suppose you could say he became part of > the > industrial revolution. My great grandfather, also John Brookes was born > there in 1857, virtually the same place I was born 87 years later! The > family moved to Foundry Square (1871 census) and John (b1857) eventually > became a 'moulder'. There was a small iron foundry in Foundry Square and > I'm > guessing he made the sand moulds there. It was a corrugated iron building > which was still operating as a blacksmith's when I was a boy. It was later > demolished and I think Young's Garage built a workshop there. > By the way 'Paradise' was the local name for the first curved bit of Bath > Road from its junction with Warwick Road to the side entrance to the > Peoples > Park. There was a Midland Red bus route which went that way and the > conductor always shouted 'Paradise' for the stop there. > Thanks again for your help. > Barry > > 2009/7/24 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > **************************************** > > If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote > > only the specific message to which you are replying, and remove the rest > of > > the digest. > > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it matches the > > subject of the message to which you are replying. > > ~ Thank you. > > **************************************** > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 (Mary Whitlock) > > 2. Re: The Bank, Neithrop (Bob Sangster) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:10:10 +0100 > > From: Mary Whitlock <mary.whitlock@googlemail.com> > > Subject: Re: [BAN] ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 > > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > <2017b6690907230110v6245dee0pa90dda1a4e47437c@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Hello Barry > > I found this reference to Cobbs Bank, any help? > > > > Further expansion in Neithrop occurred after 1850; thus St. Paul's > Terrace > > and the houses on the west side of Paradise Road were among several small > > terraces that had been built in Neithrop village before 1881, besides > some > > 50 houses in the newly laid out Park Road and Queen Street. (fn. 141) > > Another 50 houses were built between 1852 and 1881 along the borough's > > northern boundary, when Back Lane was converted into Castle Street West, > > and > > Castle Street East was laid out. (fn. 142) The town's principal expansion > > in > > the mid 19th century was to the east. In the area known as Cherwell > between > > Broad Street and the canal, lying partly within and partly outside the > > borough, development began along the canal; Upper and Lower Cherwell > > Streets > > and Windsor Street had been built before 1851, (fn. 143) and there > followed > > building between Windsor Street and Broad Street so that by 1881 there > were > > some 350 modern houses in the whole area. (fn. 144) A slightly later > > development still further east in Grimsbury was of larger houses. There > had > > been some suburban development there by the early 19th century. 'A lot of > > cottages called Waterloo' which apparently lay just east of Banbury > Bridge > > to the north of the road, housed 'a lot of disreputable inhabitants, > > lodginghouses and otherwise, of the lowest character'. (fn. 145) In 1841 > > Waterloo was described as 'the modern and most populous part of > Grimsbury'. > > (fn. 146) The principal 19th-century building development within > Grimsbury > > occurred between 1852 and 1881, when some 500 houses were built, partly > > south of the Middleton road in Causeway, Merton Street, and Duke Street, > > but > > mostly to the north between the Middleton road and North Street. (fn. > > 147) *When > > meadows and a race-course at Grimsbury were sold to the Great Western > > Railway, the same owner sold his land to the north of the Middleton road > to > > the Banbury Freehold Land Society, which was backed by Cobb's Bank; many > of > > the early houses built were middle-class in character, but development > was > > slow and some plots were never built upon. (fn. 148) * > > > > From: 'Banbury: Origins and growth of the town', A History of the County > of > > Oxford: Volume 10: Banbury hundred (1972), pp. 18-28. URL: > > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=63789 Date > accessed: > > 23 > > July 2009. > > Regards > > Mary > > 2009/7/23 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > >> > **************************************** > > > If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:27:48 +0000 (GMT) > From: M HOWES <m.m.r.howes@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [BAN] ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 157 > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <553933.13093.qm@web87116.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > What an interesting reply - just one thing, I think you are referring to > the Neithrop Mission Hall when you talk of the Chapel.? This was a Methodist > Mission Hall much frequented and supported by the Mold family of Neithrop.? > It opened in 1888 and celebrated it's centenary in 1988.? Mr. Fred Mold was > in the Mission Band which began the work in this area, and was a member at > Neithrop from its opening, until his death in 1947.? He held various > offices, including those of Sunday School Treasurer and Superintendent and > Society Steward.? His brothers Arthur and Harry were also active workers.? > The next generation - Mary, Fanny, Maggie, Jennie, Lottie, Dick, Harry, > Fred, Olive and Edith - followed in their father's footsteps, and the second > generation -- Phyllis, Kath and Margaret were among the 1988 workers.? In > all the 100 years, there have always been Molds among the members and at one > time the Mission Hall was affectionately known as *Mold's > Chapel*.? Incidentally, Mr. Fred Mold was also Mayor of Banbury.?? You may > remember them ? > ? > Another little point of interest - my ancestors also came from Hinton, > Richard Sewell was the Blacksmith and my great grandfather? - Benjamin > Anthony kept The Gorse Hotel !!? > ? > Thanks for your interesting item. > > > --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BAN] ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 157 > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 1:01 PM > > > Hello Mary and Bob, > Many thanks for both your replies. > Sorry Mary, I think my original question may have caused confusion. The > Bank, Neithrop was actually a row of houses. The houses built to the north > of Middleton Road which is in Grimsbury were financed by Cobb's Bank - a > financial institution. However your post brought back many memories. I was > born in Banbury and delivered newspapers as a boy in the 1950's to most of > the streets you mentioned > Bob, your answer was brilliant as it triggered a memory. The chapel you > mentioned belonged to the Baptist church and I was born in the fifth house > to the west of it and lived there with my parents until the mid 1960's. I > remember an old lady asking my mother where we lived and when she told her, > the lady said "oh in the posh houses up the bank"!!! I thought she meant > because the houses (built in the 1920's or 30's by John Broughton the > builder) were raised up above the road. > The reason for my original question was because my 2x great grandfather > John > Brookes b1819, who came from a long line of Ag. Lab's in Hinton Hamlet, > Northants, moved with his family to live in the Bank between 1851 and 1855 > and became a general labourer. I suppose you could say he became part of > the > industrial revolution. My great grandfather, also John Brookes was born > there in 1857, virtually the same place I was born 87 years later! The > family moved to Foundry Square (1871 census) and John (b1857) eventually > became a 'moulder'. There was a small iron foundry in Foundry Square and > I'm > guessing he made the sand moulds there. It was a corrugated iron building > which was still operating as a blacksmith's when I was a boy. It was later > demolished and I think Young's Garage built a workshop there. > By the way 'Paradise' was the local name for the first curved bit of Bath > Road from its junction with Warwick Road to the side entrance to the > Peoples > Park. There was a Midland Red bus route which went that way and the > conductor always shouted 'Paradise' for the stop there. > Thanks again for your help. > Barry > > 2009/7/24 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > **************************************** >