Hi Hubert, > John Flowers married Elizabeth Blackmore at Banbury ST Mary's Church > 1786 The marriage entry @ St Mary Banbury reads .... 22/1/1785 John FLOWERS, servant man, bach & BLACKMORE Elizabeth, botp Wit; William Flowers. As John Flowers was a 'servant man' he was probably 'living in' with the family that employed him in Banbury & could of been born anywhere inside/outside of the town/Banbury area. To state 'otp' on a marriage entry does not mean they were born in that place - just they were living there/had been living there for as little as a few weeks - (marriage banns only required 3 weeks notice) Maybe Elizabeth Blackmore was also born/baptised elsewhere - as looking through the Baps & burials for Banbury 1723 - 1812 the closest I can get is just one burial for a Sarah BLACKAMORE 24/4/1764, wife of Mr James, draftsman. I've previously sent you FLOWERS info I found at Middleton Cheney Hubert, but I can always look again if you need it refreshed And we know Banbury St Mary/Christchurch South has been well researched for all FLOWERS entries >From all you have shared with list on your family - you may not find entries for them in parish churches, but in parish chapels - ie Methodist/Baptist - Middleton Cheney had a large Baptist chapel following & Banbury had even more chapels to choose from for religious or other preference. This example as to why folks attended a certain place/changed allegiance from my own family research ......... My gg grandfather was baptised at Middleton Cheney parish church in 1837 In 1894 aged 57 yrs he was baptised into the Baptist Chapel at MC. The entry in the MC Baptist Chapel records state ........ 'Shardy in his religious convictions. One child having been confirmed, another being prepared. All this with the idea it is thought of obtaining future relief'. He knew he was dying & did die shortly after - but the Baptist chapel provided better support for widows & the children left behind than the parish church did - so he changed religion, hoping that would help those he loved when he no longer could. Many families attended the church/chapel that provided best relief/their employer attended/the most influential businessmen attended. Survival was hard enough, anything to help ease that passage. Angela co admin Banbury