Hello again Dorothy, A little more info, and perhaps a correction of dates. I have Mary Shirley's baptism as 1815 - her mother Sarah died in 1818 and there was a baby Martha born and died in 1818 so it would seem there was a family tragedy. The illegitimate child Thomas was born in 1839, when Mary would have been 24 - and she then married William in 1844 as you said. Hope this helps. Tim Hello Dorothy, Yes, I have Mary, Thomas and William Gibbs in my information, but nothing on Mary and William's children (or Thomas for that matter). Her father John's brother Thomas is my direct ancestor. I guess that makes us related, though rather distantly :) Thomas Shirley was my great-grandfather's great-grandfather. Cheers Tim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dorothy.gibbs Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 23:55 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family Hi Tim, I wonder if your family is connected to mine. My Great Grandmother was Mary SHIRLEY baptised 26 Nov 1825 at Barford St John She married William GIBBS at Barford St John on 24 Apr 1844 I think Mary's Father was John Shirley who married Sarah Burborow on 5 may 1803 at Banbury. They lived in Barford St John. Mary had an illegitimate son Thomas who was born at Barford St John in 1839. He was brought up along with their other children by Mary and William after their marriage. They lived in Any connections? Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shirley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: [BAN] SHIRLEY family > > > > Hello all, > > I am a descendent of a branch of the SHIRLEY family who lived in the > villages of Barford St Michael and Barford St John, near Hempton in > Oxfordshire. > > I have a family tree that shows my family from mid-18thC to late 19th; > and I know my direct ancestry in the 20thC. > > What is missing is the other branches of the family from the late 19thC. > I know that some continued to live in that area. > > The family of interest is that of Richard SHIRLEY and Ann VINCENT. They > had the following children: > > Martha Mary (1865) - married Martin Randell in 1894 in Hempton > William Vincent (1867) > Thomas James (1868) > Mary (1871) - married Frank Mawle in 1902 at Hempton > Vincent Edward (1877) > James Ernest (1880). > > Ann Vincent must have died between 1880 and 1889 because Richard SHIRLEY > remarried in 1889 - though he had no further children. I have no record > of Ann's death. > > I am the great-grandson of William Vincent SHIRLEY, who moved to London > at some stage in the late 19thC and married there. I was aware from my > father of relatives in Oxfordshire, but have no other information. My > father was not family oriented and did not keep contact with them. > > My grandfather Edward SHIRLEY lived in London all his life - however he > had an older sister Mabel who is known to have married a Will Hall in > 1921 at Hempton. > > I would be interested in any information about the siblings of William > Vincent, in order to track the family further in the 20thC if this is > possible. I am sure that at least some would have remained in the area. > As I live in Australia, direct research is difficult. > > The name Vincent remains a family tradition. My father was Leslie > Vincent SHIRLEY, and my grandson is Elliott Vincent SHIRLEY. > > Cheers > > Tim > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Tim, I have tried twice now to send you the pdf file of the Shirley data at your email address and it keeps getting sent back. Any Ideas? It's only a small file that I have attached... so size isn't the issue. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shirley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family > Hello again Dorothy, > > A little more info, and perhaps a correction of dates. I have Mary > Shirley's baptism as 1815 - her mother Sarah died in 1818 and there was > a baby Martha born and died in 1818 so it would seem there was a family > tragedy. > > The illegitimate child Thomas was born in 1839, when Mary would have > been 24 - and she then married William in 1844 as you said. > > Hope this helps. > > Tim > > Hello Dorothy, > > Yes, I have Mary, Thomas and William Gibbs in my information, but > nothing on Mary and William's children (or Thomas for that matter). > > Her father John's brother Thomas is my direct ancestor. I guess that > makes us related, though rather distantly :) Thomas Shirley was my > great-grandfather's great-grandfather. > > Cheers > > Tim >