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    1. [BAN] Weather - an often used topic
    2. Angela Allen
    3. Rain - seemed like it was never going to stop! 10 weeks worth in 24 hrs has left many places cut off & many buildings affected by flood water all over the UK. Some pictures are starting to appear of the local floods on www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news Cropredy has quite a few pics already - If the canal runs through it/near it - fair chance its flooded! (good job its not Fairport weekend eh Ian) Banbury town centre is not good - but then the canal & river run through it! Angela

    07/21/2007 01:20:04
    1. Re: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic
    2. Bill Watson
    3. We could use the rain over here in Utah, where hundreds of thousands of acres of land have been on fire for weeks. What has happened to "moderation in everything"! Bill Watson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic > Rain - seemed like it was never going to stop! > 10 weeks worth in 24 hrs has left many places cut off & many buildings > affected by flood water all over the UK. > > Some pictures are starting to appear of the local floods on > www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news > Cropredy has quite a few pics already - If the canal runs through it/near > it - fair chance its flooded! > (good job its not Fairport weekend eh Ian) > > Banbury town centre is not good - but then the canal & river run through > it! > > Angela > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/21/2007 12:29:55
    1. Re: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic
    2. William Tucker
    3. We also are very dry in Michigan, very little rain in the last month. It goes to the north or the south of us. Barb Tucker > We could use the rain over here in Utah, where hundreds of thousands of > acres of land have been on fire for weeks. What has happened to > "moderation > in everything"! > > Bill Watson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angela Allen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:20 PM > Subject: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic > > >> Rain - seemed like it was never going to stop! >> 10 weeks worth in 24 hrs has left many places cut off & many buildings >> affected by flood water all over the UK. >> >> Some pictures are starting to appear of the local floods on >> www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news >> Cropredy has quite a few pics already - If the canal runs through it/near >> it - fair chance its flooded! >> (good job its not Fairport weekend eh Ian) >> >> Banbury town centre is not good - but then the canal & river run through >> it! >> >> Angela >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ >> British History Online >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/21/2007 04:15:43
    1. Re: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic
    2. Andy Micklethwaite
    3. At 03:15 22/07/2007, you wrote: >We also are very dry in Michigan, very little rain in the last month. It >goes to the north or the south of us. Have a look at the jet-stream - http://virga.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html - it's unseasonal behaviour is what has caused the UK floods. It was suggested that there might be a "La Nina" event (opposite of El Nino) causing this - events in the Pacific do affect UK weather - but the latest NOAA info suggests otherwise http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.html Best Wishes, Andy.

    07/22/2007 03:52:23
    1. Re: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic
    2. Andy Micklethwaite
    3. At 01:29 22/07/2007, you wrote: >We could use the rain over here in Utah, where hundreds of thousands of >acres of land have been on fire for weeks. What has happened to "moderation >in everything"! My chemistry teacher used to say "moderation in all things, including excess"! At the risk of getting political, global warming is not simply a question of things getting hotter - the average temperature increase is very small. What it does mean is there will be more heat in the atmosphere, which means more energy, which means more extremes of weather. That in turn means that exceptional events like the "once in a hundred year" floods we've had, happen more frequently. When you look at the rainfall figures, some parts of the UK had 14cm (6 inches) of rain on Friday - but in 1955 somewhere Dorset had DOUBLE that. These events have always happened, with global warming they'll happen more often. There are complications of course - nothing in life is ever simple. Global warming could well mean Western Europe getting a lot colder. If the warm-up means the gulf stream stops, we loose our source of heat, and we'll be as cold as Labrador! The computer models the scientists use are just not good enough yet to make accurate predictions. There's so much about the climate/ocean interaction we/they don't yet understand. Mean time, to those affected in the Midlands, and Hull (who have had flooding for the best part of a month) sincere good wishes. To those downstream, get the sandbags out! Best Wishes, Andy.

    07/22/2007 03:48:53
    1. [BAN] SHIRLEY family
    2. Tim Shirley
    3. Hello all, I am a descendent of a branch of the SHIRLEY family who lived in the villages of Barford St Michael and Barford St John, near Hempton in Oxfordshire. I have a family tree that shows my family from mid-18thC to late 19th; and I know my direct ancestry in the 20thC. What is missing is the other branches of the family from the late 19thC. I know that some continued to live in that area. The family of interest is that of Richard SHIRLEY and Ann VINCENT. They had the following children: Martha Mary (1865) - married Martin Randell in 1894 in Hempton William Vincent (1867) Thomas James (1868) Mary (1871) - married Frank Mawle in 1902 at Hempton Vincent Edward (1877) James Ernest (1880). Ann Vincent must have died between 1880 and 1889 because Richard SHIRLEY remarried in 1889 - though he had no further children. I have no record of Ann's death. I am the great-grandson of William Vincent SHIRLEY, who moved to London at some stage in the late 19thC and married there. I was aware from my father of relatives in Oxfordshire, but have no other information. My father was not family oriented and did not keep contact with them. My grandfather Edward SHIRLEY lived in London all his life - however he had an older sister Mabel who is known to have married a Will Hall in 1921 at Hempton. I would be interested in any information about the siblings of William Vincent, in order to track the family further in the 20thC if this is possible. I am sure that at least some would have remained in the area. As I live in Australia, direct research is difficult. The name Vincent remains a family tradition. My father was Leslie Vincent SHIRLEY, and my grandson is Elliott Vincent SHIRLEY. Cheers Tim

    07/22/2007 05:13:00
    1. Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family
    2. William Tucker
    3. Tim---- I have a Edward Shirley and Hannah Shirley who witnessed for the marriage of my gggrandfather Ezra Coy in Cropredy when he married Elizabeth Elkington 5/4/1818. Can you fit them in? They don't seem to come from the Coy side. Any help would be appreciated. Barb Subject: [BAN] SHIRLEY family > > > > Hello all, > > I am a descendent of a branch of the SHIRLEY family who lived in the > villages of Barford St Michael and Barford St John, near Hempton in > Oxfordshire. > > I have a family tree that shows my family from mid-18thC to late 19th; > and I know my direct ancestry in the 20thC. > > What is missing is the other branches of the family from the late 19thC. > I know that some continued to live in that area. > > The family of interest is that of Richard SHIRLEY and Ann VINCENT. They > had the following children: > > Martha Mary (1865) - married Martin Randell in 1894 in Hempton > William Vincent (1867) > Thomas James (1868) > Mary (1871) - married Frank Mawle in 1902 at Hempton > Vincent Edward (1877) > James Ernest (1880). > > Ann Vincent must have died between 1880 and 1889 because Richard SHIRLEY > remarried in 1889 - though he had no further children. I have no record > of Ann's death. > > I am the great-grandson of William Vincent SHIRLEY, who moved to London > at some stage in the late 19thC and married there. I was aware from my > father of relatives in Oxfordshire, but have no other information. My > father was not family oriented and did not keep contact with them. > > My grandfather Edward SHIRLEY lived in London all his life - however he > had an older sister Mabel who is known to have married a Will Hall in > 1921 at Hempton. > > I would be interested in any information about the siblings of William > Vincent, in order to track the family further in the 20thC if this is > possible. I am sure that at least some would have remained in the area. > As I live in Australia, direct research is difficult. > > The name Vincent remains a family tradition. My father was Leslie > Vincent SHIRLEY, and my grandson is Elliott Vincent SHIRLEY. > > Cheers > > Tim > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/21/2007 04:06:36
    1. Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family
    2. Tim Shirley
    3. Hi Barb, Yes, they are both on my family tree (I think). Edward Shirley was baptised in Barford St Michael 28/7/1773. One of Edward's brothers was Thomas Shirley from whom I am descended. Hannah is more difficult, since there are three candidates. 1. Edward had a sister named Hannah who married a Tom Butler in 1808, so she is unlikely to have been known as Hannah Shirley in 1818. 2. Edward's brother William had a daughter Hannah baptised in Barford St Michael 25/5/1794. My records say that she married Charles Woodford in Barford St Michael in 1816 and emigrated to Wisconsin USA. Once again it is unlikely that she would have called herself Hannah Shirley in 1818 even if she was still living in the area. 3. Edward had a daughter Hannah baptised 13/2/1800. The only question here would be that she was 18 in 1818, and I have no idea whether it was OK for someone of that age to be a witness. Perhaps someone else on the list can enlighten us. My best guess is that the witnesses are Edward Shirley and his daughter Hannah. Cheers Tim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William Tucker Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 12:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family Tim---- I have a Edward Shirley and Hannah Shirley who witnessed for the marriage of my gggrandfather Ezra Coy in Cropredy when he married Elizabeth Elkington 5/4/1818. Can you fit them in? They don't seem to come from the Coy side. Any help would be appreciated. Barb Subject: [BAN] SHIRLEY family > > > > Hello all, > > I am a descendent of a branch of the SHIRLEY family who lived in the > villages of Barford St Michael and Barford St John, near Hempton in > Oxfordshire. > > I have a family tree that shows my family from mid-18thC to late 19th; > and I know my direct ancestry in the 20thC. > > What is missing is the other branches of the family from the late 19thC. > I know that some continued to live in that area. > > The family of interest is that of Richard SHIRLEY and Ann VINCENT. They > had the following children: > > Martha Mary (1865) - married Martin Randell in 1894 in Hempton > William Vincent (1867) > Thomas James (1868) > Mary (1871) - married Frank Mawle in 1902 at Hempton > Vincent Edward (1877) > James Ernest (1880). > > Ann Vincent must have died between 1880 and 1889 because Richard SHIRLEY > remarried in 1889 - though he had no further children. I have no record > of Ann's death. > > I am the great-grandson of William Vincent SHIRLEY, who moved to London > at some stage in the late 19thC and married there. I was aware from my > father of relatives in Oxfordshire, but have no other information. My > father was not family oriented and did not keep contact with them. > > My grandfather Edward SHIRLEY lived in London all his life - however he > had an older sister Mabel who is known to have married a Will Hall in > 1921 at Hempton. > > I would be interested in any information about the siblings of William > Vincent, in order to track the family further in the 20thC if this is > possible. I am sure that at least some would have remained in the area. > As I live in Australia, direct research is difficult. > > The name Vincent remains a family tradition. My father was Leslie > Vincent SHIRLEY, and my grandson is Elliott Vincent SHIRLEY. > > Cheers > > Tim > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/22/2007 07:56:37
    1. Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family
    2. Tim Shirley
    3. Sorry - this message was intended for William Tucker - my apologies. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 13:57 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family Hi Barb, Yes, they are both on my family tree (I think). Edward Shirley was baptised in Barford St Michael 28/7/1773. One of Edward's brothers was Thomas Shirley from whom I am descended. Hannah is more difficult, since there are three candidates. 1. Edward had a sister named Hannah who married a Tom Butler in 1808, so she is unlikely to have been known as Hannah Shirley in 1818. 2. Edward's brother William had a daughter Hannah baptised in Barford St Michael 25/5/1794. My records say that she married Charles Woodford in Barford St Michael in 1816 and emigrated to Wisconsin USA. Once again it is unlikely that she would have called herself Hannah Shirley in 1818 even if she was still living in the area. 3. Edward had a daughter Hannah baptised 13/2/1800. The only question here would be that she was 18 in 1818, and I have no idea whether it was OK for someone of that age to be a witness. Perhaps someone else on the list can enlighten us. My best guess is that the witnesses are Edward Shirley and his daughter Hannah. Cheers Tim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William Tucker Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 12:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family Tim---- I have a Edward Shirley and Hannah Shirley who witnessed for the marriage of my gggrandfather Ezra Coy in Cropredy when he married Elizabeth Elkington 5/4/1818. Can you fit them in? They don't seem to come from the Coy side. Any help would be appreciated. Barb Subject: [BAN] SHIRLEY family > > > > Hello all, > > I am a descendent of a branch of the SHIRLEY family who lived in the > villages of Barford St Michael and Barford St John, near Hempton in > Oxfordshire. > > I have a family tree that shows my family from mid-18thC to late 19th; > and I know my direct ancestry in the 20thC. > > What is missing is the other branches of the family from the late 19thC. > I know that some continued to live in that area. > > The family of interest is that of Richard SHIRLEY and Ann VINCENT. They > had the following children: > > Martha Mary (1865) - married Martin Randell in 1894 in Hempton > William Vincent (1867) > Thomas James (1868) > Mary (1871) - married Frank Mawle in 1902 at Hempton > Vincent Edward (1877) > James Ernest (1880). > > Ann Vincent must have died between 1880 and 1889 because Richard SHIRLEY > remarried in 1889 - though he had no further children. I have no record > of Ann's death. > > I am the great-grandson of William Vincent SHIRLEY, who moved to London > at some stage in the late 19thC and married there. I was aware from my > father of relatives in Oxfordshire, but have no other information. My > father was not family oriented and did not keep contact with them. > > My grandfather Edward SHIRLEY lived in London all his life - however he > had an older sister Mabel who is known to have married a Will Hall in > 1921 at Hempton. > > I would be interested in any information about the siblings of William > Vincent, in order to track the family further in the 20thC if this is > possible. I am sure that at least some would have remained in the area. > As I live in Australia, direct research is difficult. > > The name Vincent remains a family tradition. My father was Leslie > Vincent SHIRLEY, and my grandson is Elliott Vincent SHIRLEY. > > Cheers > > Tim > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/22/2007 09:52:12
    1. Re: [BAN] SHIRLEY family
    2. Dorothy.gibbs
    3. Hi Tim, I wonder if your family is connected to mine. My Great Grandmother was Mary SHIRLEY baptised 26 Nov 1825 at Barford St John She married William GIBBS at Barford St John on 24 Apr 1844 I think Mary's Father was John Shirley who married Sarah Burborow on 5 may 1803 at Banbury. They lived in Barford St John. Mary had an illegitimate son Thomas who was born at Barford St John in 1839. He was brought up along with their other children by Mary and William after their marriage. They lived in Any connections? Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shirley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: [BAN] SHIRLEY family > > > > Hello all, > > I am a descendent of a branch of the SHIRLEY family who lived in the > villages of Barford St Michael and Barford St John, near Hempton in > Oxfordshire. > > I have a family tree that shows my family from mid-18thC to late 19th; > and I know my direct ancestry in the 20thC. > > What is missing is the other branches of the family from the late 19thC. > I know that some continued to live in that area. > > The family of interest is that of Richard SHIRLEY and Ann VINCENT. They > had the following children: > > Martha Mary (1865) - married Martin Randell in 1894 in Hempton > William Vincent (1867) > Thomas James (1868) > Mary (1871) - married Frank Mawle in 1902 at Hempton > Vincent Edward (1877) > James Ernest (1880). > > Ann Vincent must have died between 1880 and 1889 because Richard SHIRLEY > remarried in 1889 - though he had no further children. I have no record > of Ann's death. > > I am the great-grandson of William Vincent SHIRLEY, who moved to London > at some stage in the late 19thC and married there. I was aware from my > father of relatives in Oxfordshire, but have no other information. My > father was not family oriented and did not keep contact with them. > > My grandfather Edward SHIRLEY lived in London all his life - however he > had an older sister Mabel who is known to have married a Will Hall in > 1921 at Hempton. > > I would be interested in any information about the siblings of William > Vincent, in order to track the family further in the 20thC if this is > possible. I am sure that at least some would have remained in the area. > As I live in Australia, direct research is difficult. > > The name Vincent remains a family tradition. My father was Leslie > Vincent SHIRLEY, and my grandson is Elliott Vincent SHIRLEY. > > Cheers > > Tim > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/23/2007 08:54:55
    1. Re: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic
    2. betty
    3. I think The World has "Turned on It's A-xis" :-) Here in Queensland , we have had a Dought like no other Water restrictions prevail. Could do with a Yoke to carry the buckets..!! >> and to wake up to 3°c... is an experience we don't enjoy. I actually, wore my Parker when walking - just needed a couple of dogs and my green wellies..! i would have thought I was back in the village of B>>>.the latter being the *Plus Bit* .. Proper FREZ and Dreaming.. betty (sub-tropical Brisbane) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:20 AM Subject: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic > Rain - seemed like it was never going to stop! > 10 weeks worth in 24 hrs has left many places cut off & many buildings > affected by flood water all over the UK. > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/22/2007 05:54:37
    1. Re: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic
    2. My sentiments exactly Angela! It can stay away for three days from 9th August - PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was in the enviable situation of being able to watch, and record, how the flooding developed. And BOY, did it pee down! Spiceball came off worst, being between the river and the canal. I watched the car park become an outdoor swimming pool, and the water rise to reach the concertina doors at the rear. Then, sadly, at around 3am, that camera drowned! Luckily we were able to bury it at sea! Southam Rd was flooded too, and the water level eventually breached the banks and flooded the railway track. As my Dad would have said "Great weather for Ducks." This last happened?at Easter 1998, when I was in Australia, and all I saw of it was on the news over there. Odd seeing Banbury on TV?in another country really! We?still have CCTV footage from that time, when the camera also drowned. I got home easily enough, as I finished at 0345. Bit of surface water outside Bloxham, but no real problem. All because I decided to do my bolody garden last week!! Be warned, I am doing it again this week! Ian -----Original Message----- From: Angela Allen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 7.20pm Subject: [BAN] Weather - an often used topic Rain - seemed like it was never going to stop! 10 weeks worth in 24 hrs has left many places cut off & many buildings affected by flood water all over the UK. Some pictures are starting to appear of the local floods on www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news Cropredy has quite a few pics already - If the canal runs through it/near it - fair chance its flooded! (good job its not Fairport weekend eh Ian) Banbury town centre is not good - but then the canal & river run through it! Angela ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

    07/22/2007 07:54:25