Thank you Jon...I have included that extra information into the family tree along with Bill's wonderful information. Seems strange to have a name for a holiday.."bank holiday" to my ears...I guess it means the banks are closed does it? Likely so. Sincerely, Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Malings" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] Whitsun - SPENCER and FRANKLIN > Whitsun, or Whit Sunday is the 7th Sunday after Easter. Also known as > Pentecost. When I was young the Monday after Whit Sunday was a public > holiday but has been superceded by the fixed date "Spring Bank Holiday" > in > UK...well England at least...and in Ireland too, though the Irish holiday > is > a week later than the Engllish one. > > Jon Malings > County Wexford, Ireland > >>From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >>Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:36:59 -0600 >> >>Yes, >>Mary Ann (the mother), ___ Grant, Mary Lock, & Emma Franklin were present >>at >>Thomas' private baptism. He must have been doing poorly when born. Thomas >>got better and was received into church on Whitsunday (whatever holiday or >>date this is) 1872. That is what is noted on his entry. 10 years later??? >>a >>year after his sister was baptised (not private, so must have been in >>church) >> >>This is the first time I've seen the names listed. The clerk must have >>wanted to know who witnessed the baptism for some reason. >> >>Bill >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Bren" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:40 PM >>Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >> >> >> > Fantastic Bill, just great. Thank you so much for talking the trouble >> > to >> > look all of this up. So the two older boys were indeed Franklins...but >> > they >> > were noted as Spencer on later census and so likely their families have >> > that >> > name today. >> > >> > This I don't understand: >> > >> > 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " >> >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. >>received >> >> Whitsunday 1872 >> > >> > Are you saying that Thomas Spenceer son of Richard and Mary Ann was >> > privately baptised in 1862...and that present at the baptism was a >> > _____ >> > Grant and the Aunt, Mary Lock, and that Emma Franklin was received on >> > Whitsunday 1872? Mary Anne had a sister Emma Franklin born abt. 1818. >> > Does >> > "received" mean a late baptism or a confirmation or??? >> > >> > What a great help, thank you for all that..more than I expected to >> > receive. >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > Brenda >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:06 PM >> > Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >> > >> > >> >> Hi Brenda, >> >> >> >> 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. >>Matthew >> >> baker >> >> Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d >> >> Richard >> >> lab >> >> >> >> OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 >> >> SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney >> >> " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " >> >> " >> >> " >> >> " William Son 14 Ag Lab " >> >> " >> >> " >> >> " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " >> >> " " >> >> " Richard Son 4 " " >> >> " " >> >> " Charles Son 1 " >> >> " " >> >> LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " >>" >> >> " >> >> >> >> OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 >> >> SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury >> >> " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney >> >> LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " " >> >> >> >> bapt; >> >> 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 >> >> Jun >> >> 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 >> >> Jan >> >> 1825 >> >> 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman >> >> 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman >> >> 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab >> >> 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary >>" >> >> 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " >> >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. >>received >> >> Whitsunday 1872 >> >> 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab >> >> >> >> HTH, >> >> >> >> Bill Watson >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Bren" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM >> >> Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann >>Franklin >> >>> married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney >> >>> (registered >> >>> Banbury) >> >>> >> >>> Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have >> >>> this >> >>> Richard or their children on their radar?))) >> >>> >> >>> Brenda >> >>> >> >>> avast! 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