Another irrelevant detail about Whitsun. There is a chain of islands in the Oz Barrier Reef called the Whitsundays as they were first sighted (by Captain Cook I presume0 on Whitsunday. And yes, Bank Holidays in the UK are public holidays so called because the banks closed..technically important because it meant that you could not transact business...oh for the days before the internet! Jon Malings County Wexford, Ireland. >From: "Bren" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BAN] Whitsun - SPENCER and FRANKLIN >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:27:51 -0300 > >Thank you Jon...I have included that extra information into the family tree >along with Bill's wonderful information. > >Seems strange to have a name for a holiday.."bank holiday" to my ears...I >guess it means the banks are closed does it? Likely so. > >Sincerely, >Brenda > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jon Malings" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:24 PM >Subject: Re: [BAN] Whitsun - SPENCER and FRANKLIN > > > > Whitsun, or Whit Sunday is the 7th Sunday after Easter. Also known as > > Pentecost. When I was young the Monday after Whit Sunday was a public > > holiday but has been superceded by the fixed date "Spring Bank Holiday" > > in > > UK...well England at least...and in Ireland too, though the Irish >holiday > > is > > a week later than the Engllish one. > > > > Jon Malings > > County Wexford, Ireland > > > >>From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> > >>Reply-To: [email protected] > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >>Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:36:59 -0600 > >> > >>Yes, > >>Mary Ann (the mother), ___ Grant, Mary Lock, & Emma Franklin were >present > >>at > >>Thomas' private baptism. He must have been doing poorly when born. >Thomas > >>got better and was received into church on Whitsunday (whatever holiday >or > >>date this is) 1872. That is what is noted on his entry. 10 years >later??? > >>a > >>year after his sister was baptised (not private, so must have been in > >>church) > >> > >>This is the first time I've seen the names listed. The clerk must have > >>wanted to know who witnessed the baptism for some reason. > >> > >>Bill > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Bren" <[email protected]> > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:40 PM > >>Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >> > >> > >> > Fantastic Bill, just great. Thank you so much for talking the trouble > >> > to > >> > look all of this up. So the two older boys were indeed >Franklins...but > >> > they > >> > were noted as Spencer on later census and so likely their families >have > >> > that > >> > name today. > >> > > >> > This I don't understand: > >> > > >> > 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > >> >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. > >>received > >> >> Whitsunday 1872 > >> > > >> > Are you saying that Thomas Spenceer son of Richard and Mary Ann was > >> > privately baptised in 1862...and that present at the baptism was a > >> > _____ > >> > Grant and the Aunt, Mary Lock, and that Emma Franklin was received on > >> > Whitsunday 1872? Mary Anne had a sister Emma Franklin born abt. 1818. > >> > Does > >> > "received" mean a late baptism or a confirmation or??? > >> > > >> > What a great help, thank you for all that..more than I expected to > >> > receive. > >> > > >> > Sincerely, > >> > Brenda > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:06 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hi Brenda, > >> >> > >> >> 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. > >>Matthew > >> >> baker > >> >> Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d > >> >> Richard > >> >> lab > >> >> > >> >> OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 > >> >> SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > >> >> " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " > >> >> " > >> >> " > >> >> " William Son 14 Ag Lab " > >> >> " > >> >> " > >> >> " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " > >> >> " " > >> >> " Richard Son 4 " " > >> >> " " > >> >> " Charles Son 1 " > >> >> " " > >> >> LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " > >>" > >> >> " > >> >> > >> >> OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 > >> >> SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury > >> >> " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > >> >> LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " >" > >> >> > >> >> bapt; > >> >> 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 > >> >> Jun > >> >> 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 > >> >> Jan > >> >> 1825 > >> >> 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman > >> >> 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman > >> >> 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab > >> >> 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary > >>" > >> >> 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > >> >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. > >>received > >> >> Whitsunday 1872 > >> >> 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab > >> >> > >> >> HTH, > >> >> > >> >> Bill Watson > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Bren" <[email protected]> > >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM > >> >> Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann > >>Franklin > >> >>> married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney > >> >>> (registered > >> >>> Banbury) > >> >>> > >> >>> Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have > >> >>> this > >> >>> Richard or their children on their radar?))) > >> >>> > >> >>> Brenda > >> >>> > >> >>> avast! 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