Hi Angela Unfortunately the photograph is a copy, given to me some three weeks before his death and the original has long disappeared. Sigh. The Roger Vaughan website is very interesting but I`m looking at quite a small span of possible dates, and on `official` family photographs the more elderly members may well wear their `best`, and somewhat dated outfits. But what do I know ... over to newsgroup members. -- Joe Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection