Hi I missed the beginning of this thread, is it the Flowers family you are interested in? The name Elgin House seemed familiar to me and I did a google search and came up with this page from the Banbury Guardian history section: http://www.banburytoday.co.uk/mk4custompages/CustomPage.aspx?PageID=1828 3 At the bottom of the page is this paragraph that mentions Elgin House in West bar: 'The big houses of the town often had at least one member of the family on the society's 'a' list. Included are the Harlocks of the Lawn in St John's Road, Mrs Flowers at Elgin House in West Bar Street and Mr Barford of Foscote House in Drapers' Walk (Hightown Road).' Christine Hartwell Oregon USA -----Original Message----- From: Jill Bureau [mailto:banburianforever@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:51 AM To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAN] LOCATION INFORMATION I am not sure about in 1881, but WEST STREET is in GRIMSBURY (a sort of suburb but really part of Banbury) NEITHROP is another but the other side of BANBURY, and WEST BAR is in the town proper and not near WEST STREET.. If he had a butcher shop it is more likely but not necessarily it was in WEST BAR. In Banbury there is WEST BAR, SOUTH BAR and NORTH BAR, not bars but areas that are in the town centre. hff <flt1469@bellsouth.net> wrote: i got info from 1881 census address of family ELIGIN HOUSE WEST STREET NEITHROP.OXFORDSHIRE ENGLAND on 1891 census address SAME FAMILY 29 West Bar St Neithrop. it seems Henry had a business looks like butcher shop? is Neithrop a suburb or part of BANBURY.? i see by the maps this could part of or suburb.i be from the states do not understand boundry systems of England. in US we have states>then citys or towns then countys. Hubert flt1469@bellsouth.net ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx