Hello Wendy Thank you so much for your response to my posting re the WHEELER family. You said: So I had a look. Indeed in Deddington baptisms there are: 1797 WHEELER Martha d Thomas & Ann 1800 WHEELER Elizabeth d Thomas & Ann But then I think you may need to reconsider your notes. Swerford baptisms for offspring of Thomas & Ann are: 1803 WHEELER Maria d Thomas & Ann 1805 WHEELER Anne d Thomas & Anne which all runs fine. This amazed me because although it is some time ago that I set out on the WHEELER trail I could not understand how I could have missed Maria AND Ann. I then recalled that at one time I was bemoaning the fact that I could not find William b 1810 in the Swerford prs until Angela put me right and found the entry. So I had a look at my Swerford microfiche (OFHS) and I discovered TWO blocks of baptisms for the period covering 1800-1810, one lot including Maria, Ann & William and the other not so! Which leaves me relieved that I had not lost my marbles and very grateful to you for finding the 'missing' data. Would it be worth putting a warning slip in copies of the Swerford prs on microfiche to save others slipping on the same banana skin? You referred to William 1810 & Thomas 1815. They are offspring of a *William* & Anne. Hope that doesn't cause too much havoc with your tree! Hopefully not. I do not believe that William and Anne existed (as parents of William & Thomas). If you look at the entry in the Register you will see that it appears that the father's names for William WHEELER and the next entry the COOPER twins have been transposed. This seems to be confirmed by the 1851 Census entry which shows Thomas WHEELER (father) living with his son William. I suspect that the same mistake was made with Thomas but there is not the same supporting evidence in his case. However it seems unlikely that a William & Ann dropped into Swerford for the birth of Thomas and then disappeared. (Whilst I have accepted this explanation for Thomas, Angela I know is more cautious and has a question mark over this). > Who was Ann, wife of "Young" Thomas? They do not appear to have married in > Deddington (or Swerford) and the only 'possible' marriage in IGI seems to be > Thomas WHEELER to Ann ALLIBONE 14 March 1797 in Pillerton Hersey (Warwicks). > However the Pillerton PRs say that Thomas came from Combroke. Could he have > moved from Deddington to Combroke, married Ann at Pillerton Hersey, gone back to > Deddington then somewhere else before settling in Swerford where he was with > his son William in 1851? Yes, I see Thomas with William in 1851, Ann having been buried in 1848 age 75. The marriage is not on the Oxfordshire OFHS marriage index. Had you looked at the 1841? There's a helpful piece of information there - that, as you suspected, Ann was born out-of-county. Thank you for that. I had the OFHS Marriage Index but not the 1841 Census. 1841 census - All present county Search made on 11 January 2005 from Index dated 06/09/2002 A project funded by the Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk HO 107/879/18 Chadlington Hundred Swerford Folio, Place, H, Surname, Forename, Age, Occpn, Born in county? 5, Swerford , 1, WHEELER , Thomas , 67 , Ag Lab , y 5, Swerford , , WHEELER , Ann , 68 , - , n Have you investigated whether there's another Thomas & Ann begetting children in possible WAR parishes for the WHEELER/ALLIBONE marriage? Earlier today David (Warwickshire List) kindly offered to look at the Combrook prs for me which might be productive. Thank you very much for your help which has revealed so much. Len --