----- Original Message ----- From: <LenDenham@aol.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Re: [BAN] Roll call for all members - Angela (WHEELER of Swerford) > > Hello Wendy > > Thank you so much for your response to my posting re the WHEELER family. You > said: > > So I had a look. > > Indeed in Deddington baptisms there are: > > 1797 WHEELER Martha d Thomas & Ann > > 1800 WHEELER Elizabeth d Thomas & Ann > > But then I think you may need to reconsider your notes. > > Swerford baptisms for offspring of Thomas & Ann are: > > 1803 WHEELER Maria d Thomas & Ann > > 1805 WHEELER Anne d Thomas & Anne > > which all runs fine. > > > This amazed me because although it is some time ago that I set out on the > WHEELER trail I could not understand how I could have missed Maria AND Ann. I > then recalled that at one time I was bemoaning the fact that I could not find > William b 1810 in the Swerford prs until Angela put me right and found the > entry. > So I had a look at my Swerford microfiche (OFHS) and I discovered TWO blocks > of baptisms for the period covering 1800-1810, one lot including Maria, Ann > & William and the other not so! Which leaves me relieved that I had not lost > my marbles and very grateful to you for finding the 'missing' data. > Would it be worth putting a warning slip in copies of the Swerford prs on > microfiche to save others slipping on the same banana skin? > > > You referred to William 1810 & Thomas 1815. They are offspring of a > *William* & Anne. Hope that doesn't cause too much havoc with your tree! > > Hopefully not. I do not believe that William and Anne existed (as parents of > William & Thomas). If you look at the entry in the Register you will see > that it appears that the father's names for William WHEELER and the next entry > the COOPER twins have been transposed. This seems to be confirmed by the 1851 > Census entry which shows Thomas WHEELER (father) living with his son William. > I suspect that the same mistake was made with Thomas but there is not the > same supporting evidence in his case. However it seems unlikely that a William > & Ann dropped into Swerford for the birth of Thomas and then disappeared. > (Whilst I have accepted this explanation for Thomas, Angela I know is more > cautious and has a question mark over this). > > > Who was Ann, wife of "Young" Thomas? They do not appear to have married in > > Deddington (or Swerford) and the only 'possible' marriage in IGI seems to > be > > Thomas WHEELER to Ann ALLIBONE 14 March 1797 in Pillerton Hersey > (Warwicks). > > However the Pillerton PRs say that Thomas came from Combroke. Could he > have > > moved from Deddington to Combroke, married Ann at Pillerton Hersey, gone > back to > > Deddington then somewhere else before settling in Swerford where he was > with > > his son William in 1851? > > Yes, I see Thomas with William in 1851, Ann having been buried in 1848 age > 75. The marriage is not on the Oxfordshire OFHS marriage index. Had you > looked at the 1841? There's a helpful piece of information there - that, as > you suspected, Ann was born out-of-county. > > Thank you for that. I had the OFHS Marriage Index but not the 1841 Census. > > 1841 census - All present county > Search made on 11 January 2005 from Index dated 06/09/2002 > A project funded by the Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk > > HO 107/879/18 Chadlington Hundred Swerford > Folio, Place, H, Surname, Forename, Age, Occpn, Born in county? > 5, Swerford , 1, WHEELER , Thomas , 67 , Ag Lab , y > 5, Swerford , , WHEELER , Ann , 68 , - , n > > > Have you investigated whether there's another Thomas & Ann begetting > children in possible WAR parishes for the WHEELER/ALLIBONE marriage? > > Earlier today David (Warwickshire List) kindly offered to look at the > Combrook prs for me which might be productive. > Thank you very much for your help which has revealed so much. > > Len > > > > -- > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >