Has somebody been putting something in the coffee in Banbury? Something is causing the old boys to get frisky! Len

"Angela, I haven't looked at your legs, but if they are as lovely as the visible parts, Betty Grable would be peeved!" And Angela called me an, "incorrigible old flirt." Ian, I think we both would have got into trouble if we had 'grown up together, but boy it could have been fun'!! Hang on, it still is. Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster

Pelmet Skirts: It is apparently a euphemism for a mini skirt , never heard that one before, must be to young :-) Well sort off, but shorter than the width of some of the belts that females now wear. Least I say no more before being thrown off the list and into the compost heap?, or should that be the preverbal fan! Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster

Also known as a 'Greyhound Hem'. The reason why will be?answered off list only!! Angela, I haven't looked at your legs, but if they are as lovely as the visible parts, Betty Grable would be peeved! Love and best wishes, Ian -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:47 Subject: Re: [BAN] Pelmet skirts!! - scouting? Well I confess that when they mentioned Pelmet Skirts I thought they must be looking in the wrong direction <vbg> (ie up not down) It is apparently a euphemism for a mini skirt , never heard that one before, must be to young :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS asked the wife and she knows but there again they always do don't they ;-) >I will confirm that Bob is an incorrigible old flirt. > Pelmet skirts? - don't know, never done skirts/dresses myself - don't have > the legs. > Not that I admire other women wearing skirts either!!!!! > > >> 'Nail on the head', comes to mind. Yes, you are correct, and Ron is still >> involved with the scouts. Where as I found 'other things to interest me' >> as a teenager. Pelmet skirts where more interesting to follow to me! Come >> to think about it, (as Angela will most likely confirm), they still need >> admiring 8>)) >> >> Bob Sangster ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

'Nail on the head', comes to mind. Yes, you are correct, and Ron is still involved with the scouts. Where as I found 'other things to interest me' as a teenager. Pelmet skirts where more interesting to follow to me! Come to think about it, (as Angela will most likely confirm), they still need admiring 8>)) Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster

Hi Marilyn I am also researching Howse from Woodford Halse. I am descended from Susanna Howse who married Thomas Jordan in 1776 in Woodford Halse. Please email me if you would like to swap information. Cheers Bryan Barham NSW Australia Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:58:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Marilyn Ponting <mgeneas@yahoo.ca> Subject: Re: [BAN] Howes or Howse !! To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <235771.29856.qm@web31606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mine, were from Hinton in the parsh of woodford Halse found as Howse, Howes and House Marilyn

Bryan, I have Thomas Howse born about 1737. He married Mary ALLET at Aston le Walls 1759. Three sons were born in Woodford Thomas, bapt 16 Jan 1762 (my ancestor who married Mary PLUMMER) William bapt 27 Apr 1760 (died in Woodford 1840) John bapt 20 Mar 1763 At some point Thomas and Mary moved to Harbaury, Warwickshire but I have not investigated this. But when they died in 1819 and 1831 they were brought from Harbury back to Woodford to be buried. Marilyn Details of various Northants indexes http://www.northants-familytree.net/ --- On Sat, 7/25/09, Fataussie214 <fataussie214@hotmail.com> wrote: > From: Fataussie214 <fataussie214@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BAN] Howes or Howse !! > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Received: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 3:39 AM > Hi Marilyn > I am also researching Howse from Woodford Halse. > I am descended from Susanna Howse who married Thomas > Jordan in 1776 in > Woodford Halse. > Please email me if you would like to swap information. > > Cheers > Bryan > Barham NSW > Australia > > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:58:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Marilyn Ponting <mgeneas@yahoo.ca> > Subject: Re: [BAN] Howes or Howse !! > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <235771.29856.qm@web31606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Mine, were from Hinton in the parsh of woodford Halse > > found as Howse, Howes and House > > Marilyn > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca

Hello Mary and Bob, Many thanks for both your replies. Sorry Mary, I think my original question may have caused confusion. The Bank, Neithrop was actually a row of houses. The houses built to the north of Middleton Road which is in Grimsbury were financed by Cobb's Bank - a financial institution. However your post brought back many memories. I was born in Banbury and delivered newspapers as a boy in the 1950's to most of the streets you mentioned Bob, your answer was brilliant as it triggered a memory. The chapel you mentioned belonged to the Baptist church and I was born in the fifth house to the west of it and lived there with my parents until the mid 1960's. I remember an old lady asking my mother where we lived and when she told her, the lady said "oh in the posh houses up the bank"!!! I thought she meant because the houses (built in the 1920's or 30's by John Broughton the builder) were raised up above the road. The reason for my original question was because my 2x great grandfather John Brookes b1819, who came from a long line of Ag. Lab's in Hinton Hamlet, Northants, moved with his family to live in the Bank between 1851 and 1855 and became a general labourer. I suppose you could say he became part of the industrial revolution. My great grandfather, also John Brookes was born there in 1857, virtually the same place I was born 87 years later! The family moved to Foundry Square (1871 census) and John (b1857) eventually became a 'moulder'. There was a small iron foundry in Foundry Square and I'm guessing he made the sand moulds there. It was a corrugated iron building which was still operating as a blacksmith's when I was a boy. It was later demolished and I think Young's Garage built a workshop there. By the way 'Paradise' was the local name for the first curved bit of Bath Road from its junction with Warwick Road to the side entrance to the Peoples Park. There was a Midland Red bus route which went that way and the conductor always shouted 'Paradise' for the stop there. Thanks again for your help. Barry 2009/7/24 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > **************************************** > If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote > only the specific message to which you are replying, and remove the rest of > the digest. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it matches the > subject of the message to which you are replying. > ~ Thank you. > **************************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 (Mary Whitlock) > 2. Re: The Bank, Neithrop (Bob Sangster) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:10:10 +0100 > From: Mary Whitlock <mary.whitlock@googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [BAN] ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <2017b6690907230110v6245dee0pa90dda1a4e47437c@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello Barry > I found this reference to Cobbs Bank, any help? > > Further expansion in Neithrop occurred after 1850; thus St. Paul's Terrace > and the houses on the west side of Paradise Road were among several small > terraces that had been built in Neithrop village before 1881, besides some > 50 houses in the newly laid out Park Road and Queen Street. (fn. 141) > Another 50 houses were built between 1852 and 1881 along the borough's > northern boundary, when Back Lane was converted into Castle Street West, > and > Castle Street East was laid out. (fn. 142) The town's principal expansion > in > the mid 19th century was to the east. In the area known as Cherwell between > Broad Street and the canal, lying partly within and partly outside the > borough, development began along the canal; Upper and Lower Cherwell > Streets > and Windsor Street had been built before 1851, (fn. 143) and there followed > building between Windsor Street and Broad Street so that by 1881 there were > some 350 modern houses in the whole area. (fn. 144) A slightly later > development still further east in Grimsbury was of larger houses. There had > been some suburban development there by the early 19th century. 'A lot of > cottages called Waterloo' which apparently lay just east of Banbury Bridge > to the north of the road, housed 'a lot of disreputable inhabitants, > lodginghouses and otherwise, of the lowest character'. (fn. 145) In 1841 > Waterloo was described as 'the modern and most populous part of Grimsbury'. > (fn. 146) The principal 19th-century building development within Grimsbury > occurred between 1852 and 1881, when some 500 houses were built, partly > south of the Middleton road in Causeway, Merton Street, and Duke Street, > but > mostly to the north between the Middleton road and North Street. (fn. > 147) *When > meadows and a race-course at Grimsbury were sold to the Great Western > Railway, the same owner sold his land to the north of the Middleton road to > the Banbury Freehold Land Society, which was backed by Cobb's Bank; many of > the early houses built were middle-class in character, but development was > slow and some plots were never built upon. (fn. 148) * > > From: 'Banbury: Origins and growth of the town', A History of the County of > Oxford: Volume 10: Banbury hundred (1972), pp. 18-28. URL: > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=63789 Date accessed: > 23 > July 2009. > Regards > Mary > 2009/7/23 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > **************************************** > > If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote > > only the specific message to which you are replying, and remove the rest > of > > the digest. > > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it matches the > > subject of the message to which you are replying. > > ~ Thank you. > > **************************************** > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. The Bank, Neithrop (Barry Dunwoody) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:56:13 +1000 > > From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> > > Subject: [BAN] The Bank, Neithrop > > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > <56229b940907222056o3813102byf5773fde1b7bf4e9@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Does anyone know where the street called the Bank, Neithrop was in > relation > > to present day roads? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Barry > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the ENG-BANBURY-AREA list administrator, send an email to > > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the ENG-BANBURY-AREA mailing list, send an email to > > ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 > > ************************************************ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:03:30 -0400 > From: Bob Sangster <ukbsan1@talktalk.net> > Subject: Re: [BAN] The Bank, Neithrop > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CBD9F88BDF4E1F-6F4-19A6@FRR5-L26.sis.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Barry, > > Some of my family used to mention this, and in fact it was just a localised > phrase, due to the houses being built on a bank running along Warwick Road. > To be more precise, I worked out that the section mentioned was between the > old Methodist Church, and where the old Workhouse/Neithrope Hospital once > stood. These church (now changed into a home), and the houses are still > there, basically on the right as you drive along Warwick Road as if you are > going out of Banbury, on that road. > > As an aside, there was another localised name given to another section > close to this area, that was called?'Paradise Walk'.? > > > Enjoy Life. > Never promise, but will always try. > Regards, > Bob Sangster > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 4:56 > Subject: [BAN] The Bank, Neithrop > > > > Does anyone know where the street called the Bank, Neithrop was in relation > to present day roads? > Any help would be appreciated. > Barry > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-BANBURY-AREA list administrator, send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-BANBURY-AREA mailing list, send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 157 > ************************************************ >

No, sorry Bob, are you sure this isn't Howse - as I went to school with a Kate Howse who lived in that area - our Howes originate in Norfolk - I do know there are Howes's from Chipping Norton and environs though !  --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Bob Sangster <ukbsan1@talktalk.net> wrote: From: Bob Sangster <ukbsan1@talktalk.net> Subject: Re: [BAN] Another point of interest ! To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 7:53 PM Re. Howes. Any connection to the 'Howes' who lived in Springfield Avenue? Enjoy Life. Never promise, but always try. Regards, Bob Sangster ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To confuse issues further, there were also Howse's in the Charlbury/Spelsbury/Finstock areas. My Mum was a Howse, and her ancestors all farmed or lived?in those areas. Ian -----Original Message----- From: M HOWES <m.m.r.howes@btinternet.com> To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:15 Subject: [BAN] Howes or Howse !! No, sorry Bob, are you sure this isn't Howse - as I went to school with a Kate Howse who lived in that area - our Howes originate in Norfolk - I do know there are Howes's from Chipping Norton and environs though !? --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Bob Sangster <ukbsan1@talktalk.net> wrote: From: Bob Sangster <ukbsan1@talktalk.net> Subject: Re: [BAN] Another point of interest ! To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 7:53 PM Re. Howes. Any connection to the 'Howes' who lived in Springfield Avenue? Enjoy Life. Never promise, but always try. Regards, Bob Sangster ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

Re. Howes. Any connection to the 'Howes' who lived in Springfield Avenue? Enjoy Life. Never promise, but always try. Regards, Bob Sangster

Mine, were from Hinton in the parsh of woodford Halse found as Howse, Howes and House Marilyn Details of various Northants indexes http://www.northants-familytree.net/ --- On Fri, 7/24/09, irhuckin@aol.com <irhuckin@aol.com> wrote: > From: irhuckin@aol.com <irhuckin@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [BAN] Howes or Howse !! > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Received: Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:07 PM > To confuse issues further, there were > also Howse's in the Charlbury/Spelsbury/Finstock areas. My > Mum was a Howse, and her ancestors all farmed or lived?in > those areas. > > > Ian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M HOWES <m.m.r.howes@btinternet.com> > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:15 > Subject: [BAN] Howes or Howse !! > > > > No, sorry Bob, are you sure this isn't Howse - as I went to > school with a Kate > Howse who lived in that area - our Howes originate in > Norfolk - I do know there > are Howes's from Chipping Norton and environs though !? > > --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Bob Sangster <ukbsan1@talktalk.net> > wrote: > > > From: Bob Sangster <ukbsan1@talktalk.net> > Subject: Re: [BAN] Another point of interest ! > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 7:53 PM > > > Re. Howes. Any connection to the 'Howes' who lived in > Springfield Avenue? > > Enjoy Life. > Never promise, but always try. > Regards, > Bob Sangster > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails > whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account > with unlimited storage today. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

Barry,   Forgot to mention another little point of interest, as you were a paper boy in Grimsbury you might have delivered newspapers to my grandparents - Mr. and Mrs. Fred Sewell of 22 Gibbs Rd.  - ha ha !!   Rgds. Denise Howes

What an interesting reply - just one thing, I think you are referring to the Neithrop Mission Hall when you talk of the Chapel.  This was a Methodist Mission Hall much frequented and supported by the Mold family of Neithrop.  It opened in 1888 and celebrated it's centenary in 1988.  Mr. Fred Mold was in the Mission Band which began the work in this area, and was a member at Neithrop from its opening, until his death in 1947.  He held various offices, including those of Sunday School Treasurer and Superintendent and Society Steward.  His brothers Arthur and Harry were also active workers.  The next generation - Mary, Fanny, Maggie, Jennie, Lottie, Dick, Harry, Fred, Olive and Edith - followed in their father's footsteps, and the second generation -- Phyllis, Kath and Margaret were among the 1988 workers.  In all the 100 years, there have always been Molds among the members and at one time the Mission Hall was affectionately known as *Mold's Chapel*.  Incidentally, Mr. Fred Mold was also Mayor of Banbury.   You may remember them ?   Another little point of interest - my ancestors also came from Hinton, Richard Sewell was the Blacksmith and my great grandfather  - Benjamin Anthony kept The Gorse Hotel !!    Thanks for your interesting item. --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> wrote: From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BAN] ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 157 To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 1:01 PM Hello Mary and Bob, Many thanks for both your replies. Sorry Mary, I think my original question may have caused confusion. The Bank, Neithrop was actually a row of houses. The houses built to the north of Middleton Road which is in Grimsbury were financed by Cobb's Bank - a financial institution. However your post brought back many memories. I was born in Banbury and delivered newspapers as a boy in the 1950's to most of the streets you mentioned Bob, your answer was brilliant as it triggered a memory. The chapel you mentioned belonged to the Baptist church and I was born in the fifth house to the west of it and lived there with my parents until the mid 1960's. I remember an old lady asking my mother where we lived and when she told her, the lady said "oh in the posh houses up the bank"!!! I thought she meant because the houses (built in the 1920's or 30's by John Broughton the builder) were raised up above the road. The reason for my original question was because my 2x great grandfather John Brookes b1819, who came from a long line of Ag. Lab's in Hinton Hamlet, Northants, moved with his family to live in the Bank between 1851 and 1855 and became a general labourer. I suppose you could say he became part of the industrial revolution. My great grandfather, also John Brookes was born there in 1857, virtually the same place I was born 87 years later! The family moved to Foundry Square (1871 census) and John (b1857) eventually became a 'moulder'. There was a small iron foundry in Foundry Square and I'm guessing he made the sand moulds there. It was a corrugated iron building which was still operating as a blacksmith's when I was a boy. It was later demolished and I think Young's Garage built a workshop there. By the way 'Paradise' was the local name for the first curved bit of Bath Road from its junction with Warwick Road to the side entrance to the Peoples Park. There was a Midland Red bus route which went that way and the conductor always shouted 'Paradise' for the stop there. Thanks again for your help. Barry 2009/7/24 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > **************************************** > If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote > only the specific message to which you are replying, and remove the rest of > the digest. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it matches the > subject of the message to which you are replying. > ~ Thank you. > **************************************** > > Today's Topics: > >   1. Re: ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 (Mary Whitlock) >   2. Re: The Bank, Neithrop (Bob Sangster) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:10:10 +0100 > From: Mary Whitlock <mary.whitlock@googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [BAN] ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: >        <2017b6690907230110v6245dee0pa90dda1a4e47437c@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello Barry > I found this reference to Cobbs Bank, any help? > > Further expansion in Neithrop occurred after 1850; thus St. Paul's Terrace > and the houses on the west side of Paradise Road were among several small > terraces that had been built in Neithrop village before 1881, besides some > 50 houses in the newly laid out Park Road and Queen Street. (fn. 141) > Another 50 houses were built between 1852 and 1881 along the borough's > northern boundary, when Back Lane was converted into Castle Street West, > and > Castle Street East was laid out. (fn. 142) The town's principal expansion > in > the mid 19th century was to the east. In the area known as Cherwell between > Broad Street and the canal, lying partly within and partly outside the > borough, development began along the canal; Upper and Lower Cherwell > Streets > and Windsor Street had been built before 1851, (fn. 143) and there followed > building between Windsor Street and Broad Street so that by 1881 there were > some 350 modern houses in the whole area. (fn. 144) A slightly later > development still further east in Grimsbury was of larger houses. There had > been some suburban development there by the early 19th century. 'A lot of > cottages called Waterloo' which apparently lay just east of Banbury Bridge > to the north of the road, housed 'a lot of disreputable inhabitants, > lodginghouses and otherwise, of the lowest character'. (fn. 145) In 1841 > Waterloo was described as 'the modern and most populous part of Grimsbury'. > (fn. 146) The principal 19th-century building development within Grimsbury > occurred between 1852 and 1881, when some 500 houses were built, partly > south of the Middleton road in Causeway, Merton Street, and Duke Street, > but > mostly to the north between the Middleton road and North Street. (fn. > 147) *When > meadows and a race-course at Grimsbury were sold to the Great Western > Railway, the same owner sold his land to the north of the Middleton road to > the Banbury Freehold Land Society, which was backed by Cobb's Bank; many of > the early houses built were middle-class in character, but development was > slow and some plots were never built upon. (fn. 148) * > > From: 'Banbury: Origins and growth of the town', A History of the County of > Oxford: Volume 10: Banbury hundred (1972), pp. 18-28. URL: > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=63789  Date accessed: > 23 > July 2009. > Regards > Mary > 2009/7/23 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > **************************************** > > If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote > > only the specific message to which you are replying, and remove the rest > of > > the digest. > > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it matches the > > subject of the message to which you are replying. > > ~ Thank you. > > **************************************** > > > > Today's Topics: > > > >   1. The Bank, Neithrop (Barry Dunwoody) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:56:13 +1000 > > From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> > > Subject: [BAN] The Bank, Neithrop > > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > >        <56229b940907222056o3813102byf5773fde1b7bf4e9@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Does anyone know where the street called the Bank, Neithrop was in > relation > > to present day roads? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Barry > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the ENG-BANBURY-AREA list administrator, send an email to > > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the ENG-BANBURY-AREA mailing list, send an email to > > ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 > > ************************************************ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:03:30 -0400 > From: Bob Sangster <ukbsan1@talktalk.net> > Subject: Re: [BAN] The Bank, Neithrop > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CBD9F88BDF4E1F-6F4-19A6@FRR5-L26.sis.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Barry, > > Some of my family used to mention this, and in fact it was just a localised > phrase, due to the houses being built on a bank running along Warwick Road. > To be more precise, I worked out that the section mentioned was between the > old Methodist Church, and where the old Workhouse/Neithrope Hospital once > stood. These church (now changed into a home), and the houses are still > there, basically on the right as you drive along Warwick Road as if you are > going out of Banbury, on that road. > > As an aside, there was another localised name given to another section > close to this area, that was called?'Paradise Walk'.? > > > Enjoy Life. > Never promise, but will always try. > Regards, > Bob Sangster > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 4:56 > Subject: [BAN] The Bank, Neithrop > > > > Does anyone know where the street called the Bank, Neithrop was in relation > to present day roads? > Any help would be appreciated. > Barry > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-BANBURY-AREA list administrator, send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-BANBURY-AREA mailing list, send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 157 > ************************************************ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Barry, Some of my family used to mention this, and in fact it was just a localised phrase, due to the houses being built on a bank running along Warwick Road. To be more precise, I worked out that the section mentioned was between the old Methodist Church, and where the old Workhouse/Neithrope Hospital once stood. These church (now changed into a home), and the houses are still there, basically on the right as you drive along Warwick Road as if you are going out of Banbury, on that road. As an aside, there was another localised name given to another section close to this area, that was called?'Paradise Walk'.? Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster -----Original Message----- From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 4:56 Subject: [BAN] The Bank, Neithrop Does anyone know where the street called the Bank, Neithrop was in relation to present day roads? Any help would be appreciated. Barry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/eng-banbury-area ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know where the street called the Bank, Neithrop was in relation to present day roads? Any help would be appreciated. Barry

Hello Barry I found this reference to Cobbs Bank, any help? Further expansion in Neithrop occurred after 1850; thus St. Paul's Terrace and the houses on the west side of Paradise Road were among several small terraces that had been built in Neithrop village before 1881, besides some 50 houses in the newly laid out Park Road and Queen Street. (fn. 141) Another 50 houses were built between 1852 and 1881 along the borough's northern boundary, when Back Lane was converted into Castle Street West, and Castle Street East was laid out. (fn. 142) The town's principal expansion in the mid 19th century was to the east. In the area known as Cherwell between Broad Street and the canal, lying partly within and partly outside the borough, development began along the canal; Upper and Lower Cherwell Streets and Windsor Street had been built before 1851, (fn. 143) and there followed building between Windsor Street and Broad Street so that by 1881 there were some 350 modern houses in the whole area. (fn. 144) A slightly later development still further east in Grimsbury was of larger houses. There had been some suburban development there by the early 19th century. 'A lot of cottages called Waterloo' which apparently lay just east of Banbury Bridge to the north of the road, housed 'a lot of disreputable inhabitants, lodginghouses and otherwise, of the lowest character'. (fn. 145) In 1841 Waterloo was described as 'the modern and most populous part of Grimsbury'. (fn. 146) The principal 19th-century building development within Grimsbury occurred between 1852 and 1881, when some 500 houses were built, partly south of the Middleton road in Causeway, Merton Street, and Duke Street, but mostly to the north between the Middleton road and North Street. (fn. 147) *When meadows and a race-course at Grimsbury were sold to the Great Western Railway, the same owner sold his land to the north of the Middleton road to the Banbury Freehold Land Society, which was backed by Cobb's Bank; many of the early houses built were middle-class in character, but development was slow and some plots were never built upon. (fn. 148) * From: 'Banbury: Origins and growth of the town', A History of the County of Oxford: Volume 10: Banbury hundred (1972), pp. 18-28. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=63789 Date accessed: 23 July 2009. Regards Mary 2009/7/23 <eng-banbury-area-request@rootsweb.com> > > > **************************************** > If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote > only the specific message to which you are replying, and remove the rest of > the digest. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it matches the > subject of the message to which you are replying. > ~ Thank you. > **************************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. The Bank, Neithrop (Barry Dunwoody) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:56:13 +1000 > From: Barry Dunwoody <barry.dunwoody@gmail.com> > Subject: [BAN] The Bank, Neithrop > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <56229b940907222056o3813102byf5773fde1b7bf4e9@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Does anyone know where the street called the Bank, Neithrop was in relation > to present day roads? > Any help would be appreciated. > Barry > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-BANBURY-AREA list administrator, send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-BANBURY-AREA mailing list, send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 156 > ************************************************ >

Hi Rosemary, Many thanks for scouring the index for Joseph BISHOP. I appreciate your help and the gift of your time. Best wishes, Frances

Hi Frances, Sorry - no Joseph BISHOP anywhere anytime, Best wishes, Rosemary Northumberland UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Frances Bishop wrote: > Hi Rosemary, > > You're as generous as ever. I too would appreciate a look-up in > 'Index of Probate Records of > Oxfordshire 1733-1857 and the Oxfordshire Peculiars 1547-1856' published > by the Oxfordshire Record Society. > > The gentleman is Joseph BISHOP. > > With thanks and best wishes, > Frances

Thanks very much for checking for me, much appreciated Elusive lot aren't they :-( Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard, > > Sorry - but there doesn't seem to be any references that would fit > Thomas or Margaret - all of them are too early. > > Kind regards, > > Rosemary > Northumberland UK