Would like to add my best wishes for the coming year, may the brick walls collapse and may some of my lost souls find their way to shorten my missing list... Best wishes to All Mo ________________________________ From: "IRHUCKIN@aol.com" <IRHUCKIN@aol.com> To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:30:11 Subject: Re: [BAN] Good Luck in 2010 Happy New Year to everyone. Ian Some useful websites: FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
HAPPY NEW YEAR To: ALL FROM:Brisbane Betty
Happy New Year to everyone. Ian
Just to wish everyone a very happy, healthy and peaceful 2010. May families be found and new relatives discovered,and no brick walls or only small ones. Best wishes to all. Maureen Milton Keynes.
A Happy New year to you and your Family we have had an icy time before Christmas and of course nobody got round to doing much about it so found it best to stay in Best wishes Rhoda
Merry Christmas to all the folk of Banbury. Christmas Day is lovely - I assure you no snow or ice here. Slight chance of a shower later - we need rain. I note still Christmas Eve in UK Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/
To All Banburyshire Friends ChristmasGreetings from OZ. Santa's On His Way. Betty (Brisbane)
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year To all from a snowy Vermont Dawn
Peace and happiness to you all this Christmas ... and thanks for the greetings Angela,Ron & Betty. Len
Happy Christmas, New Year to everyone. Best wishes to you & yours for 2010 Angela co-admin Banbury
Hi Jon, The OFHS Merton PR's only show these 2 BONNER Baptisms in the index. 23 Feb 1823 BONNER Sarah d John & Susannah farmer 25 May 1824 " John s " " lab The OFHS OMI shows this as a likely marriage; John BONNER wid of Fencot marr Susannah TREDWELL in Chesterton on 9 Jan 1815 The OFHS Chesterton PR's; 9 Jan 1815 BONNER John wid Psh Fencott in Psh Charlton-upon-Otmoor TREDWELL Susannah otp wit: Wm MANSFIELD Susanna WALKER Martha TREDWELL Martha BONNER bapt; 26 May 1782 TREDWELL Shusanah d William & Sara Susannah is shown as a widow in 1851 Launton. The OFHS Launton PR's; burial; 7 Dec 1847 BONNER John 78 20 Jan 1865 " Susannah 82 HTH, Bill Watson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Malings" <jon_malings@hotmail.com> To: <eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] Sarah BONNER, Merton 1823 > > Very quiet, are we all sheltering from the rain ? > > > Can anyone do a lookup for Sarah BONNER and/or family, apparently born > Merton c.1823. She married Samuel MALINGS in Launton in 1850, but I can't > find her on the 1841 census unless she is working for Samuel Hill, > Innkeeper of Buckingham. The info I have been given from her marriage > cert says Father = deceased. > > > > One clue. In the 1861 census she is living in Launton with husband Samuel > and Susannah Bonner aged 79, unmarried, born Little Chesterton. > Susannah's relationship is not clear. Perhaps she is an aunt. > > > > Thanks for any help > > > > Jon Malings, > > County Wexford.
Very quiet, are we all sheltering from the rain ? Can anyone do a lookup for Sarah BONNER and/or family, apparently born Merton c.1823. She married Samuel MALINGS in Launton in 1850, but I can't find her on the 1841 census unless she is working for Samuel Hill, Innkeeper of Buckingham. The info I have been given from her marriage cert says Father = deceased. One clue. In the 1861 census she is living in Launton with husband Samuel and Susannah Bonner aged 79, unmarried, born Little Chesterton. Susannah's relationship is not clear. Perhaps she is an aunt. Thanks for any help Jon Malings, County Wexford. _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/
Just to say that Richard Pargiter would not have been "unusually old" if he married aged 32 in 1699. The average age for males at marriage was around 25-7. It was unusual for people to marry below the age of 21 unless they had good reason to. Also, it might not have been his first marriage. Does the Banbury PR specifically say he was a Batchelor? Jon Malings County Wexford, Ireland _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/
Now that Betty has got us started on Pargiter origins again, here are a couple more Pargiter puzzles that have me stuck. Richard Pargiter, carpenter, then of Wardington, married Elizabeth Mayho in Banbury in 1699 and died in Banbury in 1728. Parish registers and his will document these dates and his children. His birth is given in various Ancestry family trees and on an IGI record as 1673, but there is no baptism of a Richard in Oxfordshire in 1673. There is, however, one in 1667, in Tadmarton, of “Richard, son of Robert Junior”. Does anyone have any information to support 1673? If 1667 is correct for “my” Richard, it would mean he was 32 when he married in 1699 – unusually old. Robert Junior, I presume, is the Robert Pargiter who married Ann Hyeron of Tadmarton in Banbury in 1655. Most Ancestry trees have him as the son of Robert Pargiter of Greatworth and Phyllis Page, the son born in 1634 either in Greatworth or Tadmarton. Most of those same trees have Robert and Phyllis marrying in Tadmarton in 1629. I am having great difficulty documenting these events. There is no record of such a marriage in Tadmarton PRs. There is a Robert, son of Robert, baptized in Tadmarton in December 1633, but no evidence that he was the son of Robert of Greatworth. Robert of Greatworth went to Cambridge, then Lincoln’s Inn, and was a lawyer in London by 1627. He had attachments to London and Greatworth; Robert was buried in Greatworth, but Phyllis remained living in London after his death. There is no mention of Tadmarton in her will, though she left funds for the poor of Chelsea and Greatworth, and generally there is no actual evidence to associate Robert=Phyllis with Tadmarton. I am concerned that the generally accepted descent from Robert=Phyllis/Greatworth to Robert=Anne Hyeron of Tadmarton and onwards in Banbury may be incorrect. It could have originated in wishful thinking, creating a nice line back to the prominent Pargiters of Greatworth based on “Robert son of Robert” and Robert of Greatworth fitting the bill age-wise. There is also evidence of two Robert Pargiters living in Tadmarton Manor around 1660, and other property transactions, which would suggest some wealth even if they were tenants. I know others on the Banbury list have researched this line – has anyone found any evidence to support the commonly cited link to Greatworth via Robert=Phyllis? Or was the Robert who married Anne Hyeron actually descended from a chain of Tadmarton Roberts? One “Robert of Tadmarton, yeoman” was involved in a property transaction in 1647, while another was buried in Tadmarton in 1639. Perhaps these were the father and grandfather of the Robert who married Anne Hyeron. Any comments would be welcome! Thanks to all. Tony Pargeter Victoria, British Columbia
We are developing a website site which will be the basis of a book which we plan to sell with all the profits going to a Service Charity. The title will be something like: The wartime contribution of Deddington, Clifton and Hempton. Originally we had envisaged it to be simply about the War Memorial but we think that we should recognise all those that served in all the uniformed services. I do need your help and I hope that you will understand if I raise a series of related questions over the next few weeks. My first is to ask for the names of any Army units that were stationed in the vicinity. Strangely, the only one I know is the 396 US Artillery who were based in Banbury and flew their spotter aircraft from Wykham Hill but I have been told that there were others, mainly British in Deddington and Adderbury. Any info on or off list would be greatly appreciated. Do have a look at our progress so far http://www.deddington.org.uk/history/worldwars Thank you Michael Allbrook
David . Will Check my data..and contact you. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID JUDD" <david.judd3@btinternet.com> To: <eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] PARGETER/PARGITER Revisited.. > Betty you make reference to the surname Ann BROWNE 1674 at Farthinghoe, > Northants. Do you have anything earlier on the surname BROWNE? I have > details of this surname in the 16th century in and around Fritwell, > Banbury, > Kirtlington, Kiddington etc > Would appreciate details if you have them of early BROWNE family. > > David Judd > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-banbury-area-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-banbury-area-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of betty > Sent: 08 November 2009 12:45 > To: eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BAN] PARGETER/PARGITER Revisited.. > > Banburians All > > Delving into my PARGETER File..(almost archive material from 2003 > research) > > > Help Please . > > Looking for the marriage of Robert PARGETER b: circa 1615/16 > he married Mary ?????? abt 1646 @ Wardington Oxon. > > Robert was the son of John PARGETER b: abt 1585 = Ann FOSTER of > Middleton Cheney, > > Robert & Mary?? were the parents of John b: Wardington,,, bpt 1651 > he married Ann BROWNE 1674 @ Farthinghoe Northants... > > > Mary ??????? Who / Whom from Wardington.., > > T I A > > betty > > > > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 233 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > Some useful websites: > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Some useful websites: > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 238 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
ELIMINATE "fast fingers. <grn> -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 238 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Again my thanks Bill I know somewhere in my data i have a Mary SABIN and Mary TAYLOR married to a Pargeter..... Those GARDNERS are everywhere - they add to my confusion frequently . The HIERNS Mary could be HIRONS.. I will see if I can elininate some of them, in Northants.(marriage). Always appreciate your *Time Spent.... Cheers from OZ betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <bwatson27@comcast.net> To: <eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] PARGETER/PARGITER Revisited.. > Hi Betty, > > The OFHS Wardington PR bapt. show these Marys. > 23 Dec 1625 GARDNER Mary d Thomas > 21 Dec 1627 BAULDWIN Mary d Richard > 18 May 1628 HIERNS Mary d John > 30 Dec 1628 KENCH Marie d Willyam > 22 Feb 1628 MILLES Marie d Thomas > 16 Aug 1629 MUDDINE Marie d Morgan > 1 May 1631 FLETCHER Marie d Hugh > 8 May 1631 GARDNER Marie d Calcote > 1 Jan 1631 TAYLOR Mary d Edward > 8 Apr 1632 SABIN Mary d Edward > 24 Jun 1632 MARGETTS Mary d Robert > 2 Sep 1632 COWLES Mary d Richard > > HTH, > > >>> >> I wonder if a better approach would be to the >> Bapt list for Wardington. abt 1625-9 >> >> I see in my data , the date in Q..is abt 1629 >> That is, *unless they are all called Mary.-:) >> Mother could be Sarah.or father Thomas >> families seem to go that way. >> It's just a thought .. >> betty . >> > > Some useful websites: > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 238 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Thank you Bill. Always Helpful... I wonder if a better approach would be to the Bapt list for Wardington. abt 1625-9 I see in my data , the date in Q..is abt 1629 That is, *unless they are all called Mary.-:) Mother could be Sarah.or father Thomas families seem to go that way. It's just a thought .. betty . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <bwatson27@comcast.net> To: <eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] PARGETER/PARGITER Revisited.. > Hi Betty, > > Colin Harris' 7th Edition of Oxrordshire Parish Registers and Bishop's > Transcripts says that the Wardington PR's has gap in marriages between > 1636 - 47. > > The OFHS Wardington PR's show this gap then 2 marriages in 1648, none in > 1649-50, 1 marr. in 1651 and none 1652 - 4. The first PARGETER marr in the > index is 1797. > > They also show; > bapt; > 20 Nov 1651 PARGITER John s Robert > 21 Dec 1656 " Thomas s Robert, born > 9 Apr 1658 " Sarah d Robert, born > > burials; > 26 Dec 1656 PARGITER Thomas s Robert > 17 May 1658 " Ann > 13 Dec 1661 " Thomas s Robert & Mary > 16 Apr 1702 " Robert otp > 30 Dec 1714 " Mary widow otp > > Can't find Robert & Mary's marr in any OFHS Banburyshire PR's. > > HTH, > > Bill Watson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "betty" <bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au> > To: <eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:44 AM > Subject: [BAN] PARGETER/PARGITER Revisited.. > > >> Banburians All >> >> Delving into my PARGETER File..(almost archive material from 2003 >> research) >> >> Help Please . >> >> Looking for the marriage of Robert PARGETER b: circa 1615/16 >> he married Mary ?????? abt 1646 @ Wardington Oxon. >> >> Robert was the son of John PARGETER b: abt 1585 = Ann FOSTER of >> Middleton Cheney, >> >> Robert & Mary?? were the parents of John b: Wardington,,, bpt 1651 >> he married Ann BROWNE 1674 @ Farthinghoe Northants... >> >> >> Mary ??????? Who / Whom from Wardington.., >> >> T I A >> >> betty > > > Some useful websites: > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-BANBURY-AREA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 234 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Hi Betty, The OFHS Wardington PR bapt. show these Marys. 23 Dec 1625 GARDNER Mary d Thomas 21 Dec 1627 BAULDWIN Mary d Richard 18 May 1628 HIERNS Mary d John 30 Dec 1628 KENCH Marie d Willyam 22 Feb 1628 MILLES Marie d Thomas 16 Aug 1629 MUDDINE Marie d Morgan 1 May 1631 FLETCHER Marie d Hugh 8 May 1631 GARDNER Marie d Calcote 1 Jan 1631 TAYLOR Mary d Edward 8 Apr 1632 SABIN Mary d Edward 24 Jun 1632 MARGETTS Mary d Robert 2 Sep 1632 COWLES Mary d Richard Lots to choose from. HTH, Bill Watson ----- Original Message ----- From: "betty" <bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au> To: <eng-banbury-area@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] PARGETER/PARGITER Revisited.. > Thank you Bill. Always Helpful... > > I wonder if a better approach would be to the > Bapt list for Wardington. abt 1625-9 > > I see in my data , the date in Q..is abt 1629 > That is, *unless they are all called Mary.-:) > Mother could be Sarah.or father Thomas > families seem to go that way. > It's just a thought .. > betty . >