Hi Helen, I had been wondering why we had heard nothing from Angela, seeing as she's so active on the List. I hope that nothing is amiss with her or her family. Please put our minds at rest------if you are able to do so. We are VERY fond of our Angela---and don't like her absence! Regards, Muriel of Blenheim, Marlborough, NZ.

Angela is fine. I bumped into her and Spencer on Saturday whilst shopping. Just having problems with her computer at the moment. She is almost back though. On the books front, I have today started on the printing. I have three days to break the back of it, but I envisage the printing will take around 10 days in total. I will contact everyone who has responded to me for copies, very shortly. Once I have mailing costs etc. Ian

Where Oh! Where...???? Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn.MikeGriffis" <Dawn.MikeGriffis@VALLEY.NET> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:52 PM Subject: RE: [BAN] Unsubcribe > Helen, > What happened to Angela? > Have never heard of you before! > Dawn >

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Helen, What happened to Angela? Have never heard of you before! Dawn

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In message <41396F2E.7040604@virgin.net>, Joe Connell <jfc.public@virgin.net> writes >The school day would commence with a general melee in what was called >the playground. Hi Joe, I am really enjoying your messages about schooldays in Coventry... where I also went to school. Stoke Secondary Modern then Stoke Park Grammar this was between 1938 and 1949. You seem to have had pretty much the same experiences as me. They instituted a system of order/conduct marks at Stoke Park. A conduct mark was equivalent to five order marks. Didn't really work... we collected them like trophies! Really enjoyed having our names read out in assembly for such naughtiness too. I think the best detention trick we played was to put one girl up to running out of the class door... teacher went after her and while she was gone we all left out of the French doors! We never heard any more of this. I think it was too much for the teacher to own up to losing the entire class! grin Dorothy -- Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire, UK)

The school day would commence with a general melee in what was called the playground. A misnomer, since games were forbidden. Occasionally a game would spontaneously erupt; this usually involved large numbers of boys jumping onto the backs of a relatively small number of boys, until the whole edifice collapsed. Authority considered this a bad activity; on the rugby field, it was considered character-forming. At the appointed time, each form was summoned and marched off to a classroom for the calling of the register. After fifty years I can still declaim the roll of honour: 'Allyson, Ambler, Baker, Bassett, Bellamy, Bloodworth...'. Each of us ferried about a major library of books, plus any sports equipment likely to be required for that day's activities. No personal lockers, and a different classroom for each subject. We were academic gypsies. Most of the school then retired to the Hall for prayers, official announcements, and the chastening spectacle of the teaching staff miming to various hymns. A small and select group of us had other duties. Depending on one's viewpoint, we were either beyond redemption or utterly trustworthy. We gathered at the bicycle racks, where the milkman had earlier deposited a small mountain of milk crates. It was our responsibility to deliver the correct number of small milk bottles to the door of each classroom and return with the previous day's empties. It was hoped that this could be achieved with the minimum of broken glass and pools of milk. The school operated a House system to foster a sense of tribal loyalty. House points were awarded for success in (official) sporting activities, and for dedication to arts and handicrafts. Building a model lighthouse from used matchsticks was considered worthy of merit and gained points for one's House. At the end of each year the winning House was acclaimed, with some bemusement on my part. It is a matter of personal regret (and no small surprise) that despite regular support of extracurricular school activities on Saturday mornings, and long involvement in essential administrative disciplines such as milk delivery, I was never awarded any House points or selected to be a prefect. I can cope with this... just. Smokey Checked by Norton 2004 before transmission with Mozilla Thunderbird

Hi List. Most of the material I hold are extracts of wills and therefore subject to error, the originals should be consulted wherever possible. Further details are included in these will extracts, primarily direct family members and disposal of goods and values. *************************************************************************** The will of Giles SOUTHAM of Bicester. Dated 14 Oct 1641. He does not mention anyone outside the family. He makes mention of the Court Roll of the Manor of Launton (near Bicester). Does anyone have knowledge of this Court Roll, it's whereabouts, accessibility etc? Giles held land and property in the town of Langford (near or in Bicester). Land in Aynho, NTH. He mentions his brother Thomas in Aynho, NTH. The seal is plain except on the codicil which has a seal representing a Pelican preening it's breast, taking blood for it's young? The seal is similar to that used by Samuel of Loxley (will proved Worcester 30 Sep 1703) and by Josiah Southam of Warwick, proved Worcester 1730. The seal is about 5/8 by 5/8 inches. Col. Herbert SOUTHAM, in 1924, makes note that the seal could not have been a "Common" seal, as the wills were proved in London & at Worcester: it, therefore suggests an old family seal. ***************************************************************** The will of Giles SOUTHAM of Croughton, NTH. Dated 17 Aug 1649. Mentions his Godson or Grandson Richard GREEN Brothers, John, Thomas, Benedict and George A witness Susan RANDE (Spelling of the surname unsure) Will proved 24 Aug 1649 ***************************************************************** The Admon of George SOWTHAM of Croughton, NTH. Dated 19 Oct 1661. He mentions:- George FLOWERS, T. GREGORY, Job WALKER and Hu--- LOVELL. Witnesses were: Jo.GARDENER, John HAWTYN and George FLOWERS **************************************************************** The will of John SOWTHAM (the Elder) of Croughton, NTH. Dated 15 Dec 1662. Mentions his sons, Mark, Thomas, Benedict, John, Josias and Gylles. He also mentions his grandson Gylles son of his son Gylles. His daughter, Ellner KING and her daughter, Anne. His son John received the house, homestead and land in Croughton bought of Walter HARBART. His overseers are, Robert SNOTH? and Robert RAND Witnesses:- John JARVIS, Rebecca KINTON and John SOWTHAM. (no proof) ****************************************************************** Mo SOUTHAM

Yes, you are correct. This is what I get for trying to help after working a 12 hour shift! Sorry, Bill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Olsen" <hlolsen@poetworld.net> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Re: [BAN] Sister of Mercy > Hi Bill, > > I had these, but thank you. BTW, there were two entries where you said 1861 census and you meant 1871. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Watson > Sent: 8/31/2004 9:17:44 PM > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BAN] Sister of Mercy > > > Hi Heather, > > > > Here she is in 1861 Neithrop on Castle St. West RG9/920 folio 11 > > William HORWOOD Head Mar 36 Brewers Clerk Thorpe Mandeville Northampton > > Mary " Wife Mar 38 Kingston on > > Thames Surrey > > Frances Anne " Daur 7 Scholar Neithrop Banbury > > Oxon > > Mary Eliza " Daur 5 " Upton on > > Severn Worcester > > Arthur Wm " Son 4 " " > > " " " > > Martha " Daur 2 > > Neithrop Banbury Oxon > > Henry Erues (?) " Son 10m " > > " " > > > > Banbury PR's > > 9 Jan1852 HORWOOD Mary Lydia d William & Mary Neithrop draper > > 7 Sep 1853 " Frances Ann d " " " > > " > > 5 Aug 1860 " Henry Ernest s " " Castle > > St. office clerk > > 4 Jan 1863 " Alfred Edward s " " " > > brewers clerk > > > > burial > > 6 Feb 1863 HORWOOD Alfred Edward 9 weeks Castle St. West > > > > 1861 Census Wroxton RG10/1462 folio 76 > > Richard MILLER Head Mar 46 farmer & miller 109a employ 5Men 3Boy Oxon > > Balscott Mill > > Elizabeth MILLER Wife Mar 48 Northhampton > > Grimsbury > > Emily " Daur Un 20 ?? Oxon > > Balscott Mill > > Dennis " Son Un 19 Land Agents Pupil " " > > " > > Annie Eliz: " Daur 16 Scholar " > > " " > > Amy " Daur 14 " " > > " " > > Clara Jane " Daur 13 " " > > " " > > Francis R " Son 10 " " > > " " > > Ada Mary " Daur 9 " " > > " " > > Ernest Robt. " Son 7 " " > > " " > > Frances Ann HORWOOD Governess Un 18 Governess " Neithrop > > > > 1861 Census Banbury RG10/1464 folio 78 > > 1 Fish St. > > William HORWOOD Hd M 45 Brewers Clerk Thorpe Mandeville Northants > > Mary " Wife M 50 Kingston on > > Thames > > Mary Eliza " Daur 15 Scholar Upton on Severn > > Martha ??? ??? " Daur 13 " Banbury > > Arthur Wm Son 14 " Upton on Severn > > Henry Ernest " Son 10 " Banbury > > Sarh Ann COUSINS Serv 16 Servant Kings Sutton Northants > > Thomas WATTS Boarder Un 17 Brewers Clerk Avon Dassett > > > > HTH, > > > > Bill Watson > > > >

Thanks, found her too earlier today after trying endless combinations to make the search engine find her! Jerram usually causes transcribers a headache, but I never saw a clear "Maria" being guessed at as "Marin" before. Laura

Hi Laura, In the 1891 she is listed under Marin Jerram 71 wid b Over Norton , and she is in Spondon, Derbyshire....If you need the image I can send it off list... Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: <LaurTmm@aol.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:32 AM Subject: [BAN] Posting Interests: JERRAM/LEE > Researching JERRAM - I have Maria/ Mary Jerram (who I believe is nee LEE) > born Over Norton, Oxon 1818 (by census). The family move around alot - making > my research rather difficult! - but in retirement they end up back around > Derbyshire, which is where John Jerram, her husband, came from, then Maria's > death seems to be recorded back at Chipping Norton, as if she had returned there > for her last years possibly. She dies in 1892. Annoyingly, I cannot find her > by search on the 1891 yet! Any info gratefully received... > Laura > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Heather, I had a look at the 1891 census (actual page) and the index transcription is quite wrong. Here is how I read it. Buxted Sussex "The Home - St. Margaret's" Horwood, Frances Anne, age 36, Sister, occupation: Religious nun, born Oxfordshire, Neithorpe (probably Neithrop which is part of Banbury?) I can send you the a JPG of the census image, if you'd like. Regards, Brenda Anderson Masterton, New Zealand. On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:11:49 -0400, Denise <nikki247@optonline.net> wrote: > Hi Heather, > > > She is in the 1891 and I can send it off list to you...The "where born" > is > not transcribed well... > > Horwood, Frances Anne 36 Apethorpe, Safordshire Sister Buxted > Sussex > > > The Apethorpe I don't know what it should be but the Safordshire should > say > Oxfordshire > > Denise > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heather Olsen" <hlolsen@poetworld.net> > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:27 PM > Subject: [BAN] Sister of Mercy > > >> I just found Frances Horwood, b. 1853 Banbury in the 1901 census. She >> was > a "sister of mercy" at St Mary's home in Buxted, Sussex. I have not been > able to find her in the 1881 or 1891 censuses. Can anyone suggest sources > for sisters of mercy? >> >> Thanks, >> Heather >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

The Day of "White Rabbits"..???? betty

Dear Jill, Thanks for the info. I don't have any reason to suspect she was RC-- the family seem to have consistently Anglican. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Bloom Sent: 8/31/2004 10:29:14 AM To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAN] Sister of Mercy > Hullo Heather, > According to the Oxford Dict. of the Christian Church, "sister of mercy" was > a general term applied to any member of a religious community/order, usually > Anglican, who was engaged in nursing or similar work. > A penitentiary run by such sisters was known as a "House of Mercy". > If there is a strong reason for thinking that this sister was a Roman > Catholic, then it is possible, but less likely, that she was a member of the > RC sisterhood formed in Dublin 1827, known as the Sisters of Mercy (note > capitals). > You could try writing with your query to the incumbent (Vicar of Buxted) at > St.Mary's Vicarage, Buxted,Uckfield, E.Sussex, TN22 4LP, enclosing an sae, > but the Crockford here is 1985-6 and in 20 years this parish may have been > merged with others. Perhaps you are near a public library and can check in > a recent edition. > Another option might be to type "Diocese of Chichester" into Google and > follow leads to the parish of Buxted. As far as I know, each Anglican > diocese has its own website, and some are very informative and useful. > Hope this is some help. > Jill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heather Olsen" <hlolsen@poetworld.net> > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 5:27 PM > Subject: [BAN] Sister of Mercy > > > > I just found Frances Horwood, b. 1853 Banbury in the 1901 census. She was > a "sister of mercy" at St Mary's home in Buxted, Sussex. I have not been > able to find her in the 1881 or 1891 censuses. Can anyone suggest sources > for sisters of mercy? > > > > Thanks, > > Heather > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

A big thank you to everyone who sent me the info on Frances from the 1891 census. Thanks again, Heather

Hi Bill, I had these, but thank you. BTW, there were two entries where you said 1861 census and you meant 1871. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Watson Sent: 8/31/2004 9:17:44 PM To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAN] Sister of Mercy > Hi Heather, > > Here she is in 1861 Neithrop on Castle St. West RG9/920 folio 11 > William HORWOOD Head Mar 36 Brewers Clerk Thorpe Mandeville Northampton > Mary " Wife Mar 38 Kingston on > Thames Surrey > Frances Anne " Daur 7 Scholar Neithrop Banbury > Oxon > Mary Eliza " Daur 5 " Upton on > Severn Worcester > Arthur Wm " Son 4 " " > " " " > Martha " Daur 2 > Neithrop Banbury Oxon > Henry Erues (?) " Son 10m " > " " > > Banbury PR's > 9 Jan1852 HORWOOD Mary Lydia d William & Mary Neithrop draper > 7 Sep 1853 " Frances Ann d " " " > " > 5 Aug 1860 " Henry Ernest s " " Castle > St. office clerk > 4 Jan 1863 " Alfred Edward s " " " > brewers clerk > > burial > 6 Feb 1863 HORWOOD Alfred Edward 9 weeks Castle St. West > > 1861 Census Wroxton RG10/1462 folio 76 > Richard MILLER Head Mar 46 farmer & miller 109a employ 5Men 3Boy Oxon > Balscott Mill > Elizabeth MILLER Wife Mar 48 Northhampton > Grimsbury > Emily " Daur Un 20 ?? Oxon > Balscott Mill > Dennis " Son Un 19 Land Agents Pupil " " > " > Annie Eliz: " Daur 16 Scholar " > " " > Amy " Daur 14 " " > " " > Clara Jane " Daur 13 " " > " " > Francis R " Son 10 " " > " " > Ada Mary " Daur 9 " " > " " > Ernest Robt. " Son 7 " " > " " > Frances Ann HORWOOD Governess Un 18 Governess " Neithrop > > 1861 Census Banbury RG10/1464 folio 78 > 1 Fish St. > William HORWOOD Hd M 45 Brewers Clerk Thorpe Mandeville Northants > Mary " Wife M 50 Kingston on > Thames > Mary Eliza " Daur 15 Scholar Upton on Severn > Martha ??? ??? " Daur 13 " Banbury > Arthur Wm Son 14 " Upton on Severn > Henry Ernest " Son 10 " Banbury > Sarh Ann COUSINS Serv 16 Servant Kings Sutton Northants > Thomas WATTS Boarder Un 17 Brewers Clerk Avon Dassett > > HTH, > > Bill Watson

Researching JERRAM - I have Maria/ Mary Jerram (who I believe is nee LEE) born Over Norton, Oxon 1818 (by census). The family move around alot - making my research rather difficult! - but in retirement they end up back around Derbyshire, which is where John Jerram, her husband, came from, then Maria's death seems to be recorded back at Chipping Norton, as if she had returned there for her last years possibly. She dies in 1892. Annoyingly, I cannot find her by search on the 1891 yet! Any info gratefully received... Laura

Hi Heather, Here she is in 1861 Neithrop on Castle St. West RG9/920 folio 11 William HORWOOD Head Mar 36 Brewers Clerk Thorpe Mandeville Northampton Mary " Wife Mar 38 Kingston on Thames Surrey Frances Anne " Daur 7 Scholar Neithrop Banbury Oxon Mary Eliza " Daur 5 " Upton on Severn Worcester Arthur Wm " Son 4 " " " " " Martha " Daur 2 Neithrop Banbury Oxon Henry Erues (?) " Son 10m " " " Banbury PR's 9 Jan1852 HORWOOD Mary Lydia d William & Mary Neithrop draper 7 Sep 1853 " Frances Ann d " " " " 5 Aug 1860 " Henry Ernest s " " Castle St. office clerk 4 Jan 1863 " Alfred Edward s " " " brewers clerk burial 6 Feb 1863 HORWOOD Alfred Edward 9 weeks Castle St. West 1861 Census Wroxton RG10/1462 folio 76 Richard MILLER Head Mar 46 farmer & miller 109a employ 5Men 3Boy Oxon Balscott Mill Elizabeth MILLER Wife Mar 48 Northhampton Grimsbury Emily " Daur Un 20 ?? Oxon Balscott Mill Dennis " Son Un 19 Land Agents Pupil " " " Annie Eliz: " Daur 16 Scholar " " " Amy " Daur 14 " " " " Clara Jane " Daur 13 " " " " Francis R " Son 10 " " " " Ada Mary " Daur 9 " " " " Ernest Robt. " Son 7 " " " " Frances Ann HORWOOD Governess Un 18 Governess " Neithrop 1861 Census Banbury RG10/1464 folio 78 1 Fish St. William HORWOOD Hd M 45 Brewers Clerk Thorpe Mandeville Northants Mary " Wife M 50 Kingston on Thames Mary Eliza " Daur 15 Scholar Upton on Severn Martha ??? ??? " Daur 13 " Banbury Arthur Wm Son 14 " Upton on Severn Henry Ernest " Son 10 " Banbury Sarh Ann COUSINS Serv 16 Servant Kings Sutton Northants Thomas WATTS Boarder Un 17 Brewers Clerk Avon Dassett HTH, Bill Watson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Olsen" <hlolsen@poetworld.net> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:27 AM Subject: [BAN] Sister of Mercy > I just found Frances Horwood, b. 1853 Banbury in the 1901 census. She was a "sister of mercy" at St Mary's home in Buxted, Sussex. I have not been able to find her in the 1881 or 1891 censuses. Can anyone suggest sources for sisters of mercy? > > Thanks, > Heather > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Dogged readers may not be too surprised to learn that an early experience at the new school involved detention, with activities clearly designed by those favouring the 'picking oakum' theory of punishment. The grammar school was intended to widen our mental horizons, and so punishment must obviously withhold such pleasures. Miscreants assembled immediately after close of school for one hour, or for more serious transgression, for three hours on a Saturday morning. Depending on the whim of the supervising teacher, two principal activities were available. Coventry Council regularly published a document entitled 'Civic News'. This comprised four pages of dense type, reporting on all council activities and statistics. The school probably represented most of its circulation. Quite simply, punishment involved writing out the contents of this document until the invigilator was satisfied with the standard of handwriting. At that point in time I knew more about the supply of books to Coventry libraries and the numerous goodwill visits of councillors to war-torn Europe than was healthy. The second activity involved mathematics, and long preceded the availability of calculators. Each participant was issued a nine-digit number, for which he then had to calculate the arithmetic cube. Again …, and again …, until the correct answer was submitted; when a new number would be issued. Of course, the invigilator was provided with a master list of numbers and their cubes. During either of these activities the invigilator would stalk up and down the rows of desks, ensuring that some sort of movement could be discerned. Retreating into coma or foaming idiocy was not permitted. Only from hindsight do I realise that appointment as invigilator must have been a form of punishment. Certain acts of misbehaviour by teachers must have incurred allocation to detention duty. Perhaps they came to school and forget to bring their gown? Was their facial expression in a staff meeting judged to represent dumb insolence? I've misjudged them all these years. They too were victims of a repressive society. Smokey- Checked by Norton 2004 before transmission with Mozilla Thunderbird