Hello list has anyone on list got Kelly's Oxfordshire Directories? if so would you please look for entries for Collins and Wise Thatchers Bloxham between 1928 -1950 Wise Carpenters Bloxham thank you any help greatly appreciated Bye Anne Anne Williams

Hello Ian, I have been on holiday so missed all the messages about the books. I would love a copy. Where do I send the cheque? Catherine Best wishes Catherine Pritchard Membership Secretary, Friends of Lister Lane Cemetery, Halifax. http://www.listerlanecemetery.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: IRHUCKIN@aol.com [mailto:IRHUCKIN@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:10 AM To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BAN] Books Sorry, last e-mail should have gone directly to Rhoda. Still, gives me a chance to ask if everyone who has had them, are enjoying them. I know Len is as he already told me! If anyone wants more copies, please let me know. £7.50 plus P&P which is £1.34 UK, £3.50 worldwide. All contributors get a freebie, just need the P&P. Incidentally, the official publishing date is next Monday. Yours, Ian ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Yes I would like to have another set am in most afternoons if I know you are coming just to be sure. I will be taking the books to my Aynho Writers Group on Saturday my turn to do a reading it will probably be Mike Griffis "Love at First Sight" and Your Bumble bee. I have enjoyed the books so much you have done a really good job well done rhoda

yes please i would like another set to pass around in case they dont come back i have my original copies. have enjoyed them very much will be taking them to Aynho writers group when i go on Saturday. My turn to do a reading this month it will be one from one of the books there are so many nice pieces I shall be spoilt for choice.I think it will probably be Mike Griffis "Love at First Sight" and your "At Least Try". I am in most afternoons as long as i know you are coming best wishes a lovely job well done rhoda

As most of you know, I love to write poetry. I also like promote poetry. One of my favourite verse forms is called the "Triolet". It can be likened to a chessboard. 8 lines, 8 beats (syllables) to the line. Then lines are repeated at certain intervals. So much better than a Limerick! Wonderful for writing poems regarding Love and Romance. This is a set of five that I wrote a couple of years ago, themed on the seasons as they used to be. So romantic notions I suppose!! I will publish it one day. THE SEASONS OF YORE Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring, Blend seamlessly throughout the year. We cannot tell what each will bring, Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring. Each one changing everything, They come, and then they disappear. Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring, Blend seamlessly throughout the year. The clouds are going from the skies, As days get hotter and longer. Summer's no time for long goodbyes, The clouds are going from the skies. Gardens alive with butterflies, The Sun beats down and gets stronger. The clouds are going from the skies, As days get hotter and longer. The leaves have fallen from the trees. Brown and dry they lay all around. Blown away by an Autumn breeze, The leaves have fallen from the trees. Without a fuss, no Eulogies, They die, yet never make a sound. The leaves have fallen from the trees. Brown and dry they lay all around. The Winter winds bring frost and snow, With the ground as hard as fired clay. Clouds in the sky and no Suns glow, The Winter winds bring frost and snow, Rivers are frozen, they can't flow Until Spring sends a warmer day. The Winter winds bring frost and snow, With the ground as hard as fired clay. It's such a shame that Spring must end, The ground, a blanket of colour. It's welcomed like a special friend, It's such a shame that Spring must end. The many hues all mix and blend, Even when the weather's duller. It's such a shame that Spring must end, The ground, a blanket of colour. © Ian Ralph Huckin 2002

Ian, I don't have mine yet but my mother & sister said they loved them they couldn't put them down. My mother couldn't put hers down long enough to talk to me for a few minutes on the phone. Dawn

Sorry, last e-mail should have gone directly to Rhoda. Still, gives me a chance to ask if everyone who has had them, are enjoying them. I know Len is as he already told me! If anyone wants more copies, please let me know. £7.50 plus P&P which is £1.34 UK, £3.50 worldwide. All contributors get a freebie, just need the P&P. Incidentally, the official publishing date is next Monday. Yours, Ian

Dear Rhoda. I do hope you are enjoying the books. I see by looking back through e-mails, that you may want another set. If you do, please let me know and I will drop them around. Just £7.50. No charge for delivery! Yours, Ian

>>I now had the right to pasture cattle on wastes, Lammas, and Michaelmas lands. Sadly my personal circumstances prevented this, and I was not too sure where they were located<< Hi Joe, I bet one of them was Hearsall Common, which was opposite where I was living when we were bombed out. >>From 1875 I shared responsibility for cleaning and repairing three ponds for public use within the City; fortunately no one now knew where they could be located either.<< I wonder if one of those could be the Swanswell? If it was.... I bet it could do with a good cleaning these days! grin BTW... my Dad was a tool and cutter grinder too during part of his working life. He worked at the Morris and then the GEC. I remember going to a works Christmas party at the Morris.... I'm told I was about 3 years old. I mainly remember getting near the building and looking down into a basement room which had bright lights and lots of kids having fun... and I couldn't get in there fast enough! Dorothy

Christine I had many a pint of Hookey in the Great Western, in the 1970's!!! Try Hook Norton Breweries, Hook Norton, Oxon. Barry

On Yhe Move with Angela.. SOMERSET or DORSET. ?? Did the *ZIDER attract her i wonder.. Scrumpy .!! Ooooooo Arrr. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRHUCKIN@aol.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] I'm back!!! > Not only is her computer sick, she has moved to Somerset over the weekend. > Nice to have an old face return!! > > Ian > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Completion of apprenticeship was recognised at a reception in the Council House, when each of us was presented with our Deed of Indenture by the Lord Mayor. Very grand it is too. Parchment, A3 sized, five pages, and hung about with large red embossed wax seals. I also qualified as a Freeman of the City. In origin this bestowed the right to trade in the City, and carried privileges and obligations as a citizen. I was sworn to be 'tributary to all contributions, taxes, tollages, summons, watch, scot and lot'. Hmmm. I now had the right to pasture cattle on wastes, Lammas, and Michaelmas lands. Sadly my personal circumstances prevented this, and I was not too sure where they were located. I also had the right to vote in Parliamentary elections, although it seems this had since been extended to almost everybody. From 1875 I shared responsibility for cleaning and repairing three ponds for public use within the City; fortunately no one now knew where they could be located either. The Deed of Indenture does no more than detail which areas of manufacture were experienced during the apprenticeship. 'Feb-Apr 1958: Universal Milling'. No details of any achievement or reservations about attitude towards Authority. What did have lasting value were the qualifications gained from evening attendance at technical college. All those hours spent drawing three views of cone sections enmeshed in a spider web of construction lines were not wasted. One day society will need this skill. Back at work, in a touching little ceremony, the Production Director presented me with a large publication (Machinery Handbook) which listed details of every nut and bolt known to Man; an engraved slide rule; and a written reference to help me find new employment. It was clearly an emotional moment for both of us. I now understood that the medieval term ‘Journeyman’ meant ‘on your way, squire …’ I was considered a skilled man, and the 60s beckoned. Smokey et vale Checked by Norton 2004 before transmission with Mozilla Thunderbird

I totally agree with what you have written, Julie. What these wonderful listers write about times gone by enthrals me. Almost everything I read, jogs my memory about something my grandmother or other elders have said to me whilst I was growing up...and in turn spawns its own memories and I-remember-whens for me. Even sometimes nudging me into writing some of my own thoughts down! (shock, horror!!!) :o) I, too, have letters written by my grandmother (her memoirs, she called them) and the way she wrote is part of the way I remember her, and the way she spoke. Some words are even spelled the way only Nan could do them....but they are a part of her memory. She is long gone, but she lives on in the things and letters she wrote. I can't do much research right now, and have come off other lists because of that....but I remain on this one, because of the memories and friendly nature of the fellow listers. Research for me may have a major pause now, but please keep these treasures coming. I love to hear from you all - it's almost like running out to the mail box to see if I have a letter from an old friend. I am now living (by wonderful choice)in the middle of nowhere....45 minutes to nearest supermarket/town....yet I am not alone, I still have you all. Okay so it's a bit of a culture shock after being a townie all my 45 years, but this is my new start in life. Now I shall have some memoirs of my own to write, I think... Hugz to you all Carole (ex-Hamilton, now a beautiful Kaiaua, NZ) -----Original Message----- From: Julie Nicks [mailto:julienicks21@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, 1 October 2004 2:07 p.m. To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BAN] re:Remember---this and that! Dearest Muriel, You should not work yourself up into such a lather over minor flaws in your writing, as I am sure that others, as with myself, are too engrossed in the recounting of your memories to worry about such things. Usually I am a stickler for correct spelling and grammer useage, but losing my 44 year old self within the mental images of a world that for me is vastly different in a geographical sense, yet in other ways so familiar [ memories of a 'dressed to the nines' Mother on special occasions] makes it so easy to glide past any errors contained within your correspondence. You remind me of my Mother [ gone 18 years now], in that whilst writing letters to her daughter living many miles away, would edit her letters for any spelling errors pre posting. To this day, I have every one of those letters and would have treasured them any way they came. Spelling errors did not detract from who she was and how much I loved receiving and reading each one! Please keep up the writing so that we get a glimpse now and then of another world, familiar to some, yet new to others. Thanks for the memories... Julie in a sunny Elizabeth Downs, Adelaide SA _________________________________________________________________ Searching for that dream home? Try http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au for all your property needs. ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

Not only is her computer sick, she has moved to Somerset over the weekend. Nice to have an old face return!! Ian

Thank you Len & Ian, That explains why my test emails went unanswered. I hope she got an extended warrantee with she Christmas present!! Bill She didn't even ask if I could help her move!!

Hi Bill Nice to have you back. Your server appears to be doing the business. You may have to wait for a response from Angela as when last heard her computer was seriously sick ... yes, the one she got for Christmas! Len

Hi list I'm wondering if anyone would know about landlords of the Great Western Arms in Aynho? I've found a reference to a David Edward Nicholls, landlord of the Great Western Arms in 1969 and 1974, trying to find out if we are related. I'm starting to research my Nicholls family who moved to Aynho sometime after 1900, I was given a list of christenings at the church and the above name was there but I don't recognize the name. Christine Hartwell Oregon USA

Hi Joe and Lister Friends, As some of you know, Joe and I hail from the same area----- Foleshill, Coventry. I naturally find his memories very evocative of of the things I experienced in my younger days. Thankyou so much for the insights into your apprenticeship days, Joe, and the mores and pecking order on the factory floor.You see, the greater part of my father's working life was in a factory, as a grinder. During the war he worked at the Rootes Group Factory at Ryton-upon-Dunsmore, and afterwards had a break away from this whilst factories were re-organising and retooling for their peacetime roles. He joined the Dunlop, on Holbrooks Lane, Foleshill, around 1951 or 1952, working at grinding or re-grinding aircraft disc brakes. He resisted any promotion, as he preferred his work on the shop floor as an operative, but he didn't require the chargehand to set up his jobs, as he could do that for himself. When a new type of machine was to be tried out, with a view to purchase, it was my father who was chosen to evaluate it, watched by "the big bosses". This much I knew, but to be able to enter and understand this environment---thankyou, Joe! I have now been able to share a little in that part of my father's life. A further thing of interest to me was in the interplay of relationships on the shop floor. My youngest son completed an engineering apprenticeship in New Zealand. At the time he said nothing to me, but some of the bullying apprentices endured at the hands of some of the senior workers, does not make for pleasant hearing. Thankfully, recent legislation has improved the rights of the individual. We owe such a lot to our blue-collared workers; the people with skills at their fingertips."Bits of paper", are overvalued in my opinion, at the expense of those that who are so inventive and skilled with their hands.Without them industry would grind to a standstill. ( Sorry about the "grind" it was unavoidable---not a pun). Joe, thankyou for the picture you "painted" of the massed multitude of cyclists leaving the factories at "knocking off " time. I can see myself, on the curbside, waiting to cross the Foleshill Rd., and standing---and standing there---as the relentless stream of cyclists, several abreast, poured by in each direction! It was well advised to be patient if you valued your skin! The number 20 buses were almost continuous, too, during the rush hour. Ah, those were the days, " when I wer gooing t' catch the buzz t' werk!" Regards, Muriel.

Hi List, I'm back........!!! Still have 2 more weeks of "Summer Shifts", but am rested, awake and willing.................to do lookups.....................in my collection of fiche & CDs. Angela, are our computers communicating? I have a new server now. Note the new email address. Ahhh, hey.....I"ve missed you guys!!! Bill

Hi list, It has been awhile since I wrote- things have been very difficult for sometime for us, but that is not the reason for writing. I to enjoy the memories as does my husband Mike & an aunt of his that lives in Texas as each one is forwarded to her. She loves them too. Just recently there has been several mentions of old letters still treasured by many of the lister & the joy each one gets from them. I too have letters sent to me, my brother & sister from our grandparents from 1948 until shortly after I started nursing. I have carried them with me through many moves since being married we have moved 39 times. Last year we were going home to England for Xmas. As some of you know the last time I was in England for Xmas was 1964. I wanted to take something special for all to see. If you are aware of scrap booking to preserve old photos from deterioration, then you know what I am talking about. Well I had pictures back from pre 1900 on up to present day. What I put together was a scrap booking albumn with all these pictures & relevant family mementoes to go with them - some were poems written by my grandfather. Now to my point - I decided to do the same thing with the letters and put relevant photos with them or rebooking decorations that fit with the letters. If the letter was about gardening then appropriate decorations was used. Because the letters were written on acid paper to preserve them & to protect the photos from the acid they all had to be vacuum sealed. I decorated around the letter edges with relevant border decorations. The poems in the other book had to be done the same way. It did take a lot of time & work but now they are preserved for ever. 200 years from now they will still be the same. My other point is that when I took these very heavy books home at Xmas they were a tremendous hit with everyone even with new members of the family. As each read the letters it reminded them of different times in our lives. Like the time my sister June wrote a letter to my grandparents on toilet paper. Gramp thought it was so funny as his letter back said. June had totally forgotten that she had done this. No one at home knew that I had saved these letters all these years, adding to the enjoyment. I know it is a lot of work but finding a way to preserve these family treasures is well worth the effort- can you imagine the enjoyment our descendents will have many years from now. Those of us on this side of the equator has the winter ahead of us - a good project. Those on the other side of the equator could plan for next winter. Yours Dawn