Dorothy For someone so young - he must have felt the pain of his brother's loss very deeply, to be able to express himself as he did. Thank you for sharing your father's thoughts. I lost my elder Brother, 10years ago, not in War - unless you call the battle against cancer a "war", but I was 35 yrs older than your father, and I could say goodbye!! I can empathise with his feelings of loss and despair, tinged with hope of meeting again in another plain! Regards Helen BTW - Dorothy, I hope you will allow Rosemary, to put this memorial on the Banbury Website! -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy Gibbs [mailto:dorothy.gibbs@pandorasbox2.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 9:04 a.m. To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BAN] Remembrance Day Hi Folks, I have been thinking today of my Uncle Jack (my Dad's brother) who died in the first world war. John (Jack) William Gibbs was baptised at Broughton on 7 Jun 1891. He was a shepherd when he joined up with the Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry. The war must have been particularly gruesome for one with such a gentle job. He died of dysentery on 20 Jun 1816 on board ship and was buried at sea. I believe he was being shipped home at the time and the story goes that his ship passed that of the one my father was on as he went to India. He is remembered on the War memorial at Tadmarton and on the Commonwealth graves memorial at Basra. The news must have reached my Father, Frank Gibbs (also in the Ox & Bucks) some time later and the following is a poem that he wrote about his brother. Please remember that this is written by a chap who left school at thirteen and who was only 17 when he wrote it. Dorothy --------------------------------------------------- In Ever Loving Memory of my Dear Brother Jack Saviour in Thy precious keeping, We leave our dear Jack safely sleeping. You will link the broken chains When we meet again. His King and country called him, The call was not in vain, On Britain's Roll of Honour, You will find my brother's name. We never knew the pain he bore We never saw him die, We only know he passed away, And never said goodbye. But now dear Jack your pain is o'er, In the Ocean's bosom you lie at rest, But aching hearts you left behind, No one but God knows best. The silent grief that's in my heart, No human eye can trace, For many a broken heart is hid, behind a smiling face. Sleep on dear brother in a far off grave, That we will never see, But as long as life's memories last, We will remember thee. Our thoughts often wander to a far off ocean grave, Your name is often spoken in a home you died to save, For our hearts are all united with the same fond love for you, And loving thoughts are cherished for one so brave and true. Private F Gibbs Diwhali, India Dec 1916 -- Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK) ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Here they are, Ian, though I'm not clear where Wilts comes in.......... Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Richard ALLDAY Head M 47 M Cattle Dealer Birmingham---- Anne ALLDAY Daur U 19 F --- Yardley-WOR Elizabeth ALLDAY Daur U 17 F Scholar Yardley-WOR Maria ALLDAY Daur - 15 F Scholar Yardley-WOR Richard ALLDAY Son - 13 M Scholar Yardley-WOR Henry ALLDAY Son - 11 M Scholar Yardley-WOR Joseph ALLDAY Son - 7 M Scholar Ilmington-WAR George HUCKIN Serv U 20 M Groom Chadlington-OXF Emma SAUNDERS Serv U 19 F General Serv Shipston-WOR Address: West Street, --- Census Place: Shipston On Stour Shipston On Stour, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2076 Folio: 525 Page: 9 FHL Film: 0087345 ******************************************* Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Anne MCGILLIVRAY Head W 42 F Fundholder Tewkesbury-GLS Anne E. MCGILLIVRAY Daur - 11 F Scholar at Home Blackheath-KEN Mary L. MCGILLIVRAY Daur - 10 F Scholar at Home Blackheath-KEN Sarah PAUL Frnd Vist U 61 F Assistant Shareholder in Canada Land Company North Walsham-NFK Harriet WIDDER Vist U 41 F Assistant Shareholder in Canada Land Company London-MID Mary Ann STAPLING Serv U 28 F Waiting Maid Ide-DEV Sarah W. TEDBURY Serv U 26 F House Servant Collaton Raleigh-DEV Mary BADCOCK Serv U 32 F House Servant Upton-DEV Mary HUCKIN Serv U 27 F Cook Charlbury-OXF Address: 2 Beacon Hill, Exmouth Census Place: Littleham In St Thomas St Thomas, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1865 Folio: 304 Page: 10 FHL Film: 0221013 Funny about the N.Walsham visitor. That's where I am right now! (She's more loaded with the shekels, I fancy!) Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRHUCKIN@aol.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] Hucking etc. >I would be interested in any info about the Wilts connection please. Even >if > it is not in my tree, the Chad/Charlbury line may be. > Thanks, > > Ian

Barbara Shhh!!!! Don't warn him! Helen New Zealand - hasn't been a Dominion since 1947!!! -----Original Message----- From: Adair [mailto:adair@ncf.ca] Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 2:05 a.m. To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAN] Re: Listers Memories. Hi Ian: If you go on with the gastronomic revelations you will be inundated with Antipodean and Dominion visitors from now on! Barbara ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Ian, It is not often you and the gang hear from me but on this occasion my mouth is watering and thoughts of fresh "fly cemeteries" are making my tum rumble. I will now go and start a Madras curry with a selection of sambals for our dinner tonight. Kind thoughts to all, Mo Southam

Hi All, The reason for my being rather quiet lately is that I have rather we- Mike & I have been very busy. We have decided it was time to move back home. We need to get away from this bad weather both politically & true weather wise. We have our children & grandchildren's blessing. We were going to wait until I retired but it is hard to predict when I will feel ready to do that. I just got back from England. I have a job in Cheltenham as Home Manager for a residential care/nursing home; starting early in December. Mike will be staying here until the house sells etc. We will be selling most of our stuff - give some to the kids - dump some of it & ship to England that that we can't or wont give up. Needless to say I will read more that is going on with the list than share thoughts with you. I will try to get "On line" as soon as possible once I get there & figure out how to do it all. Even basic living stuff is going to have to be re-learned. So I should be leaving here before the snow gets too much of a hold but doubt if Mike will be that lucky. Does anybody on the list live anywhere near Cheltenham that would be willing to share some tips with me? I am well familiar with Oxfordshire but not Gloucestershire. In case my communication is much delayed Happy Thanks Giving Christmas & New Year to you all. All the best to a great group of people Dawn

Goodmorning All, Helen has allowed me to add her story of the opening of the memorial for New Zealand's 'Unknown Soldier'. I always assumed that every country had such a memorial - so you learn something new everyday! Any more entries for the page: I'll put them up on line as a first priority. Love and prayers, Rosemary, Northumberland UK ............................................................ Webmaster for Banburyshire Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/index.htm Email: banbury@prob.freeserve.co.uk ............................................................

I would be interested in any info about the Wilts connection please. Even if it is not in my tree, the Chad/Charlbury line may be. Thanks, Ian

Dorothy has allowed me to add her memories to the page of Remembrances and the poem her father wrote. They are well worth reading again. Love and prayers, Rosemary, Northumberland UK ............................................................ Webmaster for Banburyshire Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/index.htm Email: banbury@prob.freeserve.co.uk ............................................................ In message of 11 Nov 2004 you wrote: | BTW - Dorothy, I hope you will allow Rosemary, to put this memorial on | the Banbury Website!

No popperdoms or bargies (sic)? Ian

Dear Jill. Didn't know about the Devon connection (coincidentally my wife is from near Blackawton originally), but the Chad and Charlbury connections are well know to me. That is the tree I am trying to tie into. I know when he got married and when he died. I also know when he was born (about). I just don't know where!! He is my brick wall!!! Thanks for the info. It at least gives me some more avenues. Ian

Still drooling the *Guzgog ...Reverie.?? betty. ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRHUCKIN@aol.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] Re: Listers Memories. > True to my word, I baked some bread and had it with (low fat!) butter and > some home baked ham. Delicious! I even added some onion to a couple of the > rolls, > some curry powder to some more and some basil to others. All turned out > the > same mouthwatering way! > Anyone drooling yet? > > Ian > > > ============================== > Search our Immigration Records and view names from multiple ports > ranging from 1500s - 1900s. Over 23 million records to view. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13967/rd.ashx >

Dear Dorothy, Just - thank you for sharing Angela > --------------------------------------------------- > In Ever Loving Memory of my Dear Brother Jack > > Saviour in Thy precious keeping, > We leave our dear Jack safely sleeping. > You will link the broken chains > When we meet again. > > His King and country called him, > The call was not in vain, > On Britain's Roll of Honour, > You will find my brother's name. > > We never knew the pain he bore > We never saw him die, > We only know he passed away, > And never said goodbye. > > But now dear Jack your pain is o'er, > In the Ocean's bosom you lie at rest, > But aching hearts you left behind, > No one but God knows best. > > The silent grief that's in my heart, > No human eye can trace, > For many a broken heart is hid, > behind a smiling face. > > Sleep on dear brother in a far off grave, > That we will never see, > But as long as life's memories last, > We will remember thee. > > Our thoughts often wander to a far off ocean grave, > Your name is often spoken in a home you died to save, > For our hearts are all united with the same fond love for you, > And loving thoughts are cherished for one so brave and true. > > Private F Gibbs > Diwhali, India > Dec 1916

Hi Folks, I have been thinking today of my Uncle Jack (my Dad's brother) who died in the first world war. John (Jack) William Gibbs was baptised at Broughton on 7 Jun 1891. He was a shepherd when he joined up with the Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry. The war must have been particularly gruesome for one with such a gentle job. He died of dysentery on 20 Jun 1816 on board ship and was buried at sea. I believe he was being shipped home at the time and the story goes that his ship passed that of the one my father was on as he went to India. He is remembered on the War memorial at Tadmarton and on the Commonwealth graves memorial at Basra. The news must have reached my Father, Frank Gibbs (also in the Ox & Bucks) some time later and the following is a poem that he wrote about his brother. Please remember that this is written by a chap who left school at thirteen and who was only 17 when he wrote it. Dorothy --------------------------------------------------- In Ever Loving Memory of my Dear Brother Jack Saviour in Thy precious keeping, We leave our dear Jack safely sleeping. You will link the broken chains When we meet again. His King and country called him, The call was not in vain, On Britain's Roll of Honour, You will find my brother's name. We never knew the pain he bore We never saw him die, We only know he passed away, And never said goodbye. But now dear Jack your pain is o'er, In the Ocean's bosom you lie at rest, But aching hearts you left behind, No one but God knows best. The silent grief that's in my heart, No human eye can trace, For many a broken heart is hid, behind a smiling face. Sleep on dear brother in a far off grave, That we will never see, But as long as life's memories last, We will remember thee. Our thoughts often wander to a far off ocean grave, Your name is often spoken in a home you died to save, For our hearts are all united with the same fond love for you, And loving thoughts are cherished for one so brave and true. Private F Gibbs Diwhali, India Dec 1916 -- Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK)

Ian, From 1851 census (LDS disc for Norfolk, Warwicks. and Devon) just in case they give you clues for your Edward. The first place listed is the birthplace. More info if needed. Jill HUCKIN, George Serv <1831> Chadlington-OXF Shipston On Stour HUCKIN, Mary Serv <1824> Charlbury-OXF Littleham In St Thomas HUCKING, Maria Serv <1828> Blackawton-Dev Stokefleming HUCKING, Thomas GSon <1841> Long Compton-War Long Compton HUCKINGS, Arthur Son <1834> Thornbury-Dev Black Torrington HUCKINGS, Daniel Son <1839> Thornbury-Dev Black Torrington HUCKINGS, John Head <1803> Thornbury-Dev Black Torrington HUCKINGS, John Son <1832> Thornbury-Dev Black Torrington HUCKINGS, Mary Wife <1800> Abbotts Biginton-Dev Black Torrington HUCKINGS, Mary Daur <1830> Thornbury-Dev Black Torrington HUCKINGS, Samuel Son <1840> Thornbury-Dev Black Torrington HUCKINGS, Thomas Son <1838> Thornbury-Dev Black Torrington HUCKINGS, William Son <1836> Thornbury-Dev Black Torrington

Thanks for a lovely remembrance, Dorothy.......... Your Gibbs and mine are one and the same. Comforting to know that Jack Gibbs memory is still alive. BEVERLY (in Ontario) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Gibbs" <dorothy.gibbs@pandorasbox2.demon.co.uk> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:03 PM Subject: [BAN] Remembrance Day > Hi Folks, > I have been thinking today of my Uncle Jack (my Dad's brother) who died > in the first world war. > John (Jack) William Gibbs was baptised at Broughton on 7 Jun 1891. He > was a shepherd when he joined up with the Oxford and Bucks Light > Infantry. The war must have been particularly gruesome for one with such > a gentle job. > He died of dysentery on 20 Jun 1816 on board ship and was buried at sea. > I believe he was being shipped home at the time and the story goes that > his ship passed that of the one my father was on as he went to India. > He is remembered on the War memorial at Tadmarton and on the > Commonwealth graves memorial at Basra. > The news must have reached my Father, Frank Gibbs (also in the Ox & > Bucks) some time later and the following is a poem that he wrote about > his brother. > > Please remember that this is written by a chap who left school at > thirteen and who was only 17 when he wrote it. > > Dorothy > --------------------------------------------------- > In Ever Loving Memory of my Dear Brother Jack > > Saviour in Thy precious keeping, > We leave our dear Jack safely sleeping. > You will link the broken chains > When we meet again. > > His King and country called him, > The call was not in vain, > On Britain's Roll of Honour, > You will find my brother's name. > > We never knew the pain he bore > We never saw him die, > We only know he passed away, > And never said goodbye. > > But now dear Jack your pain is o'er, > In the Ocean's bosom you lie at rest, > But aching hearts you left behind, > No one but God knows best. > > The silent grief that's in my heart, > No human eye can trace, > For many a broken heart is hid, > behind a smiling face. > > Sleep on dear brother in a far off grave, > That we will never see, > But as long as life's memories last, > We will remember thee. > > Our thoughts often wander to a far off ocean grave, > Your name is often spoken in a home you died to save, > For our hearts are all united with the same fond love for you, > And loving thoughts are cherished for one so brave and true. > > Private F Gibbs > Diwhali, India > Dec 1916 > > > -- > Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK) > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hehehe...haven't heard the term guzgog jam since I stayed at my nans as a littl'un back in early 60's in Birmingham ...in fact I thought it to be a word that she made up! Carole (ex-Smith) NZ -----Original Message----- From: IRHUCKIN@aol.com [mailto:IRHUCKIN@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 1:08 a.m. To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAN] Re: Listers Memories. Guzgog jam, in fresh warm homemade bread with real butter. Sloshed down with a cuppa or two of tea, made with loose leaf and full fat milk (add sugar if you wish), strained with a metal strainer. I am a "milk in first" man myself. Homemade fruit cake or Victoria sponge for afters. Greengage and damson jam were pretty darn good too. Budger me Betty, you got my tastebuds overflowing now!! Gonna have to go bake some bread now. I have some home-cooked ham to go in it!! Ian

Ian Thanks- I'll make a note :-) Helen -----Original Message----- From: IRHUCKIN@aol.com [mailto:IRHUCKIN@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 10:01 p.m. To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAN] Re: Listers Memories. When you get over this way, you are more than welcome Helen. Ian ============================== New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx

In message <15c.431b154b.2ec48886@aol.com>, IRHUCKIN@aol.com writes >Anyone drooling yet? > Hi Ian, You know that little tray in the front of your CPU, that slides out? Well that's for sending rolls and slices down the phone line! Just thought I'd tell you! Dorothy (shuffles off giggling) -- Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK)

An' I thorri 'twere a drinks tray. Well I'll be bumthwizthled! As Worzel used to say. Any'ow, gorra geroff 'twork noo. Gorra tek s'me real grub wid I too. Ian (in Yukkle mode) Still looking for Edward Hucking Born about 1796 somewhere. That's the brick wall problem - where?

Hi Ian: If you go on with the gastronomic revelations you will be inundated with Antipodean and Dominion visitors from now on! Barbara