Hi list could some kind local to Banbury tell me how far would it be between Brockworth, Gloucestershire and Brailes and Banbury.. I have a Thomas Hone married at Brailes in 1592 and the only Thomas Hone (spelt whone) i can locate only one possible Thomas Hone (whone) born 1567 at Brockworth - would make him 25 when he married. Just wondering if it would be possible!!!!! There was also a John Whone born at Brockworth in 1569 and I believe he will be the Johanes Whone that married at Brailes in 1600 and had a family at Swalcliffe. Also how young as anyone come across a male marrying - would 14 years be possible in 1566?????? Regards Mark G (Australia)

Hester I checked British Vital Records Index for LEATHERBARROW and find nearly all the Baptisms and Marriages occur in Lancashire - unfortunately there was not a Baptism for a Charles c 1799. The only locations that appeared in the index were Cheshire and Nottingham. Its possibly Charles may have come from further afield that you thought, have you checked the 1841 Census for that would indicate whether he was born in or out of the County! I note from IGI that an Edward LETHERBARROW married in Banbury in 1826, so now we have 2 about the same age. Also a son born to Edward ,in 1834 was baptised Charles. Possibly these 2 were brothers. Even in IGI predominance of the name is from Lancashire. Happy Hunting Helen Deputy List Admin. -----Original Message----- From: Hester Moore [mailto:familyhistory@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 1:40 p.m. To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? Hi Everyone I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. My Problem is: 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 (making him born about 1799 - where?) When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he was a Widower. Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first marriage and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW entries before 1800s. My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names in any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, but a bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a strike. Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more about Charles. I know he was a Tailor. Many thanks for everyones time Hester Queensland, Australia ============================== New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx

Hi Hester,, I have a Charles Leatherbarrow in my Hone family: Charles Leathbarrow aged 25 years, engineer of Church Lane son of Edward Leatherbarrow, butcher married Sarah Chard on 6 February 1860 at Banbury. Have not been able to find any children for them so far!!!!!! seems a difficult name to trace Mark G (Australia) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hester Moore" <familyhistory@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 7:11 PM Subject: Update Re: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > Thanks to those who have answered so far. Maybe I should have added a bit > more in my explanation. > > To Mo Scanlan > Actually, No I do not have the 1871 census - most of the others, but not > that one - would love a copy if not too much trouble. > > To Brian Creed > As you surmise, I have looked at the IGI and agree LE[A]THERBARROW seems to > be predominantly Lancashire. > > To Rosemary Probert > Sorry, should have said that I have the non-parochial for Banbury (it even > has my Mum's christening on it!) Thanks for the answer though. > > To Ann Johnston > What is the Genforum family history site? > > To Elaborate on my previous question: > I have Charles LE[A]THERBARROW marrying for the second time in 1832 in > Banbury (Edward LETHERBARROW was the witness) - no record of him before > that. > There were also > John LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1823 Banbury > William LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1818 Banbury and William LE[A]THERBARROW > (widower) in 1830 Banbury at this marriage C. LETHERBARROW was the witness > and Edward LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1826 Banbury > Can find no Christenings for any of the above, or any Christenings for > LE[A]THERBARROW before beginning of the 1800s. > > In Banbury Registers only marriage was John LETHERBARROW to Esther JAMESON > 18 Sep 1753 ( and their deaths, but no children! And they were in Banbury, > because many times were witnesses at weddings) > > So, my problem is, there has to have been some LE[A]THERBARROWS around here > somewhere - are there some other Registers, or would they maybe have been > christened outside of Banbury? > > I thank everyone very much for their time > Hester > Queensland, Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hester Moore" <familyhistory@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:40 AM > Subject: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > > > > Hi Everyone > > I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. > > > > My Problem is: > > > > 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 > > (making him born about 1799 - where?) > > When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he was > > a Widower. > > > > Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first marriage > > and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW entries > > before 1800s. > > > > My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers > > have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names in > > any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, but a > > bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a strike. > > > > Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more about > > Charles. I know he was a Tailor. > > > > Many thanks for everyones time > > Hester > > Queensland, Australia > > > > > > ============================== > > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hi Ann I found the Genforum message board - thanks. There were several LETHERBARROW names mentioned that I recognise, so will post a reply. Many thanks Hester ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Johnston" <annp.johnston@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > > The Genforum family history website has several messages re the surname > LEATHERBARROW related to Banbury. One interesting suggestion is that > another early alternative spelling of the surname was LITHERBOROUGH. > > Ann Johnston > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hester Moore" <familyhistory@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:40 AM > Subject: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > > >> Hi Everyone >> I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. >> >> My Problem is: >> >> 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 > (making him born about 1799 - where?) >> When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he >> was > a Widower. >> >> Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first marriage > and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW entries > before 1800s. >> >> My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers > have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names in > any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, but a > bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a strike. >> >> Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more >> about > Charles. I know he was a Tailor. >> >> Many thanks for everyones time >> Hester >> Queensland, Australia >> >> >> ============================== >> New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx >> > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 19/11/04 > > > ============================== > Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Thank you Helen As you will probably see from my Update Info, I have Edward and several others in Banbury around the same time. I have also tried to fit them into the Lancashire ones on the IGI, but with not much success. Thanks for your time. Hester ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: RE: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > Hester > > I checked British Vital Records Index for LEATHERBARROW and find nearly > all the Baptisms and Marriages occur in Lancashire - unfortunately there > was not a Baptism for a Charles c 1799. > > The only locations that appeared in the index were Cheshire and > Nottingham. > > Its possibly Charles may have come from further afield that you thought, > have you checked the 1841 Census for that would indicate whether he was > born in or out of the County! > > I note from IGI that an Edward LETHERBARROW married in Banbury in 1826, > so now we have 2 about the same age. Also a son born to Edward ,in 1834 > was baptised Charles. > Possibly these 2 were brothers. Even in IGI predominance of the name is > from Lancashire. > > Happy Hunting > > Helen > Deputy List Admin. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hester Moore [mailto:familyhistory@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 1:40 p.m. > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > > Hi Everyone > I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. > > My Problem is: > > 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 > (making him born about 1799 - where?) > When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he > was a Widower. > > Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first > marriage and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW > entries before 1800s. > > My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers > have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names > in any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, > but a bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a > strike. > > Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more > about Charles. I know he was a Tailor. > > Many thanks for everyones time > Hester > Queensland, Australia > > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx >

Hi Mark Great to hear from you. Well, I can tell you some about this family. I have been collecting any LE[A]THERBARROW families that have anything to do with Oxfordshire. Charles LETHERBARROW chr 25 Apr 1834 St Mary's, Banbury s/o Edward and Anne, butcher, Neithrop. (I know mother's name was Mary Anne, but I think this goes, as I have found 10 children - some have the mother Mary Anne and Some just Anne, but the father is always Edward a butcher). Charles died in Sep Qtr 1875 Banbury. Wife Sarah Ann born about 1844 Banbury. I just realised this is going to be very long, so I will send the rest to your personal email. Regards Hester ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Grady" <mark.grady@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Update Re: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > Hi Hester,, > > I have a Charles Leatherbarrow in my Hone family: > > Charles Leathbarrow aged 25 years, engineer of Church Lane son of Edward > Leatherbarrow, butcher married Sarah Chard on 6 February 1860 at > Banbury. > > Have not been able to find any children for them so far!!!!!! > > seems a difficult name to trace > > Mark G (Australia) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hester Moore" <familyhistory@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 7:11 PM > Subject: Update Re: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone > help,please? > > >> Thanks to those who have answered so far. Maybe I should have added a >> bit >> more in my explanation. >> >> To Mo Scanlan >> Actually, No I do not have the 1871 census - most of the others, but not >> that one - would love a copy if not too much trouble. >> >> To Brian Creed >> As you surmise, I have looked at the IGI and agree LE[A]THERBARROW seems > to >> be predominantly Lancashire. >> >> To Rosemary Probert >> Sorry, should have said that I have the non-parochial for Banbury (it >> even >> has my Mum's christening on it!) Thanks for the answer though. >> >> To Ann Johnston >> What is the Genforum family history site? >> >> To Elaborate on my previous question: >> I have Charles LE[A]THERBARROW marrying for the second time in 1832 in >> Banbury (Edward LETHERBARROW was the witness) - no record of him before >> that. >> There were also >> John LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1823 Banbury >> William LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1818 Banbury and William > LE[A]THERBARROW >> (widower) in 1830 Banbury at this marriage C. LETHERBARROW was the >> witness >> and Edward LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1826 Banbury >> Can find no Christenings for any of the above, or any Christenings for >> LE[A]THERBARROW before beginning of the 1800s. >> >> In Banbury Registers only marriage was John LETHERBARROW to Esther >> JAMESON >> 18 Sep 1753 ( and their deaths, but no children! And they were in >> Banbury, >> because many times were witnesses at weddings) >> >> So, my problem is, there has to have been some LE[A]THERBARROWS around > here >> somewhere - are there some other Registers, or would they maybe have been >> christened outside of Banbury? >> >> I thank everyone very much for their time >> Hester >> Queensland, Australia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Hester Moore" <familyhistory@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:40 AM >> Subject: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? >> >> >> > Hi Everyone >> > I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or >> > advise. >> > >> > My Problem is: >> > >> > 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 >> > (making him born about 1799 - where?) >> > When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he > was >> > a Widower. >> > >> > Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first > marriage >> > and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW entries >> > before 1800s. >> > >> > My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers >> > have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names > in >> > any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, >> > but > a >> > bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a strike. >> > >> > Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more > about >> > Charles. I know he was a Tailor. >> > >> > Many thanks for everyones time >> > Hester >> > Queensland, Australia >> > >> > >> > ============================== >> > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx >> > >> >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. 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Hi All, I have finally cleaned up the map showing the area around Banbury on our website: any further improvements will be up to someone else! It's in the folder called: 'Where is Banburyshire?' Hope this helps, Rosemary, Northumberland UK ............................................................ Webmaster for Banburyshire Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/index.htm Email: banbury@prob.freeserve.co.uk ............................................................

Thanks to those who have answered so far. Maybe I should have added a bit more in my explanation. To Mo Scanlan Actually, No I do not have the 1871 census - most of the others, but not that one - would love a copy if not too much trouble. To Brian Creed As you surmise, I have looked at the IGI and agree LE[A]THERBARROW seems to be predominantly Lancashire. To Rosemary Probert Sorry, should have said that I have the non-parochial for Banbury (it even has my Mum's christening on it!) Thanks for the answer though. To Ann Johnston What is the Genforum family history site? To Elaborate on my previous question: I have Charles LE[A]THERBARROW marrying for the second time in 1832 in Banbury (Edward LETHERBARROW was the witness) - no record of him before that. There were also John LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1823 Banbury William LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1818 Banbury and William LE[A]THERBARROW (widower) in 1830 Banbury at this marriage C. LETHERBARROW was the witness and Edward LE[A]THERBARROW married in 1826 Banbury Can find no Christenings for any of the above, or any Christenings for LE[A]THERBARROW before beginning of the 1800s. In Banbury Registers only marriage was John LETHERBARROW to Esther JAMESON 18 Sep 1753 ( and their deaths, but no children! And they were in Banbury, because many times were witnesses at weddings) So, my problem is, there has to have been some LE[A]THERBARROWS around here somewhere - are there some other Registers, or would they maybe have been christened outside of Banbury? I thank everyone very much for their time Hester Queensland, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hester Moore" <familyhistory@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > Hi Everyone > I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. > > My Problem is: > > 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 > (making him born about 1799 - where?) > When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he was > a Widower. > > Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first marriage > and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW entries > before 1800s. > > My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers > have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names in > any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, but a > bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a strike. > > Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more about > Charles. I know he was a Tailor. > > Many thanks for everyones time > Hester > Queensland, Australia > > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx >

Does anybody have access to the Newbottle PRs? I am interested in all references to the surname BLAKE as I am trying to find a link between the Kings Sutton Blakes and the Newbottle Blakes. In 1801 Francis Blake of Red Lion Street Kings Sutton (1731-?), who I have quite a lot of information about, paid land tax of 11s 3d on his land in Newbottle so there is a strong possibility of a connection somewhere. Francis Blake had married at Newbottle Church in 1759 although all his 10 children were baptised at Kings Sutton Parish Church where he is listed as a churchwarden in 1765 and 1775. Thanks to all the help I have received from this mailing list in a remarkably short space of time. Ann Johnston --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 24/11/04

Hi There, Is anyone able to help with a problem I have please? I have been using Generations software but I can't use this now that I have a new computer with XP pro on it. So today I bought Roots Magic which looks good. I am trying to make a Gedcom to transfer all my data from the old programme to the new one and can't seem to make one that brings ALL the data over. I have never done this before. Is anyone able to tell me how to do it please? Dorothy -- Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK)

Hello Hester, I expect you've already been through the IGI but just in case I found the following there: Charles Leatherbarrow or Brookfield chr. 4 Nov 1798 at North Meols, Lancashire, England Father---Leatherbarrow Mother Alice Brookfield This was the only Charles Leatherbarrow in the 5 years either side of 1799. I also notice that the name Leatherbarrow is overwhelmingly a Lancashire name; 95% come from there so your Charles is probably a stray and any first marriage would be up there. I hope this helps, best wishes, Brian, New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Hester Moore <familyhistory@optusnet.com.au> To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:41 Subject: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? >Hi Everyone >I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. > >My Problem is: > >3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 (making him born about 1799 - where?) >When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he was a Widower. > >Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first marriage and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW entries before 1800s. > >My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names in any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, but a bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a strike. > >Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more about Charles. I know he was a Tailor. > >Many thanks for everyones time >Hester >Queensland, Australia > > >============================== >New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx >

> > >Hi list could some kind local to Banbury tell me how far would it be between > >Brockworth, Gloucestershire and Brailes and Banbury.. > I'm sure you already have the answers, but I couldn't resist testing my theory that http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/churchdb is handy for problems like this. Entering the primary place name brings up that place, plus churches within 3 miles. At this stage you can change the number of miles and search again. * Distances are approximate and not all churches are included in the database. Reasons are explained. Using Brockworth as the base I expanded the search to 30 miles (see Brailes) and again to 40 miles (see Banbury). Miles ~ 0 Church of England, Brockworth [Gloucestershire] ~ 29ENE Church of England, Brailes, Warwickshire ~ 36ENE Church of England, Drayton (Banbury), Oxfordshire ~ 38ENE Church of England, Banbury, Oxfordshire Here's another feature of the GENUKI site. Clicking on "Church of England" links to a page with three map sites. Clicking on an underlined place name links to a GENUKI page offering various kinds of information about that place. For example GENUKI's Brockworth page http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Brockworth includes a link to "Research Sources for the parish of St George, Brockworth" and much more. (Wish I had ancestors there!)

Hi Everyone I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. My Problem is: 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 (making him born about 1799 - where?) When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he was a Widower. Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first marriage and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW entries before 1800s. My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names in any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, but a bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a strike. Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more about Charles. I know he was a Tailor. Many thanks for everyones time Hester Queensland, Australia

Just to say Season's greetings to all the helpful people on this list. I'm unsubscribing for a while, but look forward to rejoining. By the way, Rosemary, would a list of unusual Christian names be useful? Some came up recently, on this list, which I'd never met before, and they seem to run in families. Best wishes, Jill

The Genforum family history website has several messages re the surname LEATHERBARROW related to Banbury. One interesting suggestion is that another early alternative spelling of the surname was LITHERBOROUGH. Ann Johnston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hester Moore" <familyhistory@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:40 AM Subject: [BAN] LE[A]THERBARROW - Brick Wall - Can anyone help,please? > Hi Everyone > I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. > > My Problem is: > > 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 (making him born about 1799 - where?) > When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he was a Widower. > > Well. .. I have the St Mary's Transcripts and there is no first marriage and also no christening for Charles. Very few LE[A]THERBARROW entries before 1800s. > > My question is - Could anyone who has any surrounding parish registers have a quick look and see if there are a bunch of LE[A]THERBARROW names in any of them? If there are, I am quite willing to buy the Registers, but a bit expensive to go buying them all just on the off chance of a strike. > > Or, Could anyone give me some advise on how to go about finding more about Charles. I know he was a Tailor. > > Many thanks for everyones time > Hester > Queensland, Australia > > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 19/11/04

Hi Hester, These are LETHERBARROW baptisms from the Banbury Methodist Circuit Registers, Oxfordshire, Northamptonshire and Warwickshire, and the Non-Parochial Registers both transcribed by the OFHS. I'd already typed these out for someone else in the past - try looking in the archives for both Banbury List and Oxfordshire List. Non-Parochial Registers: 1808 LETHERBARROW Joseph Jameson s. John and Ann, Bloxham and Milton Presbyterian 1808 LETHERBARROW Ann Jameson s. John and Ann, Bloxham and Milton Presbyterian Banbury Methodist Circuit Registers: 1852 LETHERBARROW Oct 31 William s. Edmund and Harriett tailor of Neithrop b. Oct 10 1852 at Banbury, Banbury Primitive Methodists 1864 LETHERBARROW Oct 31 Arthur Henry s. Charles and Mary Ann of Banbury b. 9 Sep 1864 and privately baptised, Banbury Methodist Circuit 1874 LETHERBARROW Jul 8 Francis Alfred s. Chas. and Mary of Banbury b. Jun 3 1874, Banbury Methodist Circuit 1891 LETHERBARROW May 20 Ettie Elizabeth d. Arthur Henry and Elizabeth b. Mar 11 1891, 5 Fern Cottage, Banbury Wesleyan Methodist 1892 LETHERBARROW Oct 5 Annie Winifred d. Arthur Henry and Elizabeth Ann b. Apr 18 1892, Banbury, Banbury Wesleyan Methodist 1898 LETHERBARROW Aug 17 Gilbert James s. Arthur Henry and Elizabeth Ann b. Mar 13 1897, 40 Calthrope, Banbury, Banbury Wesleyan Methodist 1898 LETHERBARROW Aug 17 Cyril s. Albert Charles James and Clara, b. Dec 24 1896, 10 Spring Cott, Banbury, Banbury Wesleyan Methodist 1899 LETHERBARROW May 17 Francis Richard s. Arthur and Elizabeth b. Mar 15 1899, 47 Calthorp Street, Banbury Wesleyan Methodist ...and from 1808 LETHERBARROW Joseph Jameson s. John and Ann, Bloxham and Milton Presbyterian 1808 LETHERBARROW Ann Jameson s. John and Ann, Bloxham and Milton Presbyterian Hope these fit in somewhere! Rosemary, Northumberland UK ............................................................ Webmaster for Banburyshire Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/index.htm Email: banbury@prob.freeserve.co.uk ............................................................ In message of 25 Nov 2004 you wrote: | Hi Everyone | I was wondering if someone could help me here - with a lookup or advise. | | My Problem is: | | 3xGGrandfather Charles LE[A]THERBARROW died 11 Jul 1849 Banbury aged 50 (making him born about 1799 - where?) | When he married Eliza ENDALL at Banbury (St Mary's) in 1832 it says he was a Widower.

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Hi List Anyone tracing the Marshall/Powell family of Wigginton Milcombe Bloxham. I was wondering whether SKs could check the following details PR's for me Wigginton/Bloxham for the above names. - Baptism/Marriage/burials Charles Hone, widower married Agnes Marshal 1829 Wiggington then later at Ratley in 1830. I dont now whether Agnes was a widow or a spinister The IGI has a Agnes Marshall baptised 29 December 1790 daughter of William Marshal of Milcombe. The IGI also as an adult baptism for a William Marshall 19 March 1793 of Milcombe. marriage to Anne Powell of wigginton 4 April 1793 Ann Marshal baptism 10 September 1793 daughter of William Assistance needed to locate connection!! Mark G (AUstralia)

Frances, Thanks for the sites.. Mark G (Australa) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Bishop" <bishad@direct.ca> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:17 AM Subject: [BAN] Border parishes [was "other PR's & monumental inscriptions" > Hi Mark, > > Rosemary's brilliant web site will answer your geographical questions > -- see the 'Banburyshire' Map plus the Church Dedications Page. Main > page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb > > You can find out more about specific Warwickshire parishes (e.g. > Warmington, Ratley) at > http://www.bmsgh.org/parish/warw/tyaiw/tyaiwintro.html > > Happy hunting! > > Frances > > > original message: > = = = = = = = = = > Hi list, i was wondering if sks's could tell me areas that were > obviously close to the borders of Oxfordshire > Warwickshire/Northamapton/Gloucstershire > Especially Warmington, Ratley, further afield Brailes Winderton Barcheston. > Would these best be sought in the Warwickshire list!! > Does anyone have any MI 's > Regards > Mark G (Australia) > = = = = = = = = = = > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Dear Ken, Thank you for sharing so much & your time/effort involved. Angela :>) Admin Banbury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Adkins" <kadkins@jetstream.net> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] Update on George Blake of Kings Sutton (1848-1929) > To Ann Johnston: > Dear Ann, > > Perhaps I can add a bit more history with regard to the STANLEY family. > Following is an article written in a Westlock, Alberta, Canada, history book > about the STANLEY family. This being the area where Edwin and Arthur STANLEY > made their homes. As indicated in the article Arthur married Lillian ADKINS, > my great aunt. Edwin enlisted in the Canadian Infantry in Edmonton, Alberta, > and served with the Central Ontario Regiment until his death in 1917. I am > not sure who their parents were, I think they were William And Elizabeth, > perhaps living in Boddicott during the 1881 census. The ADKINS family were > living in Kings Sutton before going to Canada in 1905. > > Treasured Memories > by Lois Kinniard and Rosa Sherwin > The Stanley Story > > Our father, Arthur Stanley and his brother Edwin, left Oxfordshire, England > in March, 1905, travelling with the Adkins family. After ten days at sea, > they arrived in Halifax, Canada, then went on to Manitoba, where they worked > for a year. From there, they travelled to Edmonton where the Adkins family > was living. In the spring of 1906 they came to Swallowhurst (now Westlock) > and took up homesteads, the Adkins settling along the Wabash Creek, and the > Stanley boys a few miles farther north. After building small shacks and > staying the required time on the homesteads, they returned to Edmonton to > work. > While proving up their homesteads, the young men assisted in building the > Hazel Bluff Church in 1909, where we, as a family, worshipped, and still do. > Arthur, our father, taught Sunday School there for many years; was > Superintendent and also an elder of the Church for several years. During > this time he sang in the choir, as did my sister Lois and myself (Rosa). > Over the years we sang many trios; a bass, a contralto and a soprano. I > wonder how many fathers today would drive with a team and sleigh in cold > weather for four miles to attend choir practice, as our father did. He was > active in school work for many years, on the Sunnybank School Board and, > after consolidation, on the Westlock School Board. He was also well known > for his veterinarian services in the community; was a butcher, and assisted > in that area as well. > In 1914 war was declared and Edwin enlisted in 1915. He was killed in action > in 1917. In 1912, Arthur married Lillian Adkins and they had five children, > two girls, Lois and Rosa, and three boys, Edwin, Bill and Barry. My sister > Lois, who was born in 1913, married Lawrence Mills, who was unfortunately > killed in a woodsawing accident four months later. In 1936, she married > Francis Kinnaird and they are now living in the Barrhead area. Three > children were born of this union. Larry the eldest, died of leukemia at the > age of thirteen, leaving Jack, who is married and has two children, and > Linda, who > is married, with one child. They are both teaching in the Barrhead School > Division. > Shortly after Lois and Francis were married, a family picnic was held at the > Pembina River. Francis was told he would meet some of his new relatives > there. Being new in the area, he had no idea just what this entailed. He > expected about a dozen, not forty or fifty, which must have been quite a > shock. > Rosa, born October 15, married Nick Sherwin 1n 1936. He was born in > England, and his family emigrated to Winnigeg in 1912. The Sheriwin family > consisted of three children. The eldest, Douglas, married Anne Selby and > they had two children. He died in 1965 a victim of cancer. Anne married Ray > Ryder and they have two boys and a girl. Judy Sherwin married Mike Wilson. > They have a boy and a girl. They are all living in Edmonton. Nick and Rosa > live in Westlock. > Edwin Stanley, born in 1918, remained a bachelor and lived on the farm where > he took excellent care of Dad and Mother until their deaths -- Father's in > 1963 and Mother's in 1965. Edwin is now living in Westlock. > William (Bill) Stanley was born in June of 1923. He enlisted in the service > of his country in 1942 and was killed in action in Italy in 1944. Barry, our > youngest brother born our "April Fool" on April 1st, 1926, spent three years > in the services. He married Jean Edmundson in February 1947, and they have > six children -- Three of each! > Bill married Doreen Villeneuve, and they have two daughters and are now > living in Ft. Nelson, B.C. > Gina, who married Ray Wilkinson, had two daughters, and the family live near > the old farm in the Hazel Bluff district. > Ken Stanley lives on the place that was formerly the Ben Alien farm with his > wife Maureen (Hnatiuk) and their son. > Allan and his wife Cheryl (Saffin) have a daughter and live on the former > Frank Nielsen farm. > Kathy married Locke Girban. They make their home in Sherwood Park, near > Edmonton. > Marni, who attended the University of Alberta for four years, has recently > brought honour to herself and the family, being chosen to attend University > in England, majoring in English. > We spent many happy years on the Stanley Farm. We all attended Sunnybank > School, walking two and a half miles (five miles a day) with some hardships > which we didn't seem to mind, such as frozen cheeks, fingers and toes. Boy! > Did that fire ever feel good! > Snowdrifts as high as the fence posts had to be climbed over or walked on, > which was fun. Of course, when the snow melted there were many puddles to be > crossed, often by walking along the wires of a barbed wire fence. When our > new school was being built, classes were held in the Sunnybank Hall which > was an additional two miles to travel, so our transportation was often by > buggy and team. "Spider" and "Fly" were the horses' names. > Another incident we recall, was our first "bought'' coats, that we got from > Eaten's. They were too long, reaching halfway between our knees and our > ankles, and of course, at age 13 or 14, we just could not be caught wearing > anything that long because "nobody, but nobody" wore clothes below their > knees, we told our mother. She tried to convince us that they would keep our > knees warm, but to no avail, so off came a few inches. We spent the rest of > the winter walking to school with the legs of our Dad's old socks pulled > over our knees to keep them from freezing! "Kids". (The history book was > published in 1984) > > The story os a bit long, but I hope it is interesting. I have a picture of > Arthur. > > Ken Adkins > Salmon Arm, BC, Canada > kadkins@jetstream.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Johnston" <annp.johnston@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:46 PM > Subject: Re: [BAN] Update on George Blake of Kings Sutton (1848-1929) > > > > Thanks Mark for this extra information. > > > > George and Ellen's nephew Edwin Stanley emigrated to Canada sometime after > > 1901. He enlisted in the Central Ontario Regiment of the Canadian > Infantry > > on November 4th 1915 where his occupation was given as a real estate > agent. > > He was unmarried and his mother in Bodicote Oxfordshire was named as his > > next of kin although his brother Arthur was noted as living in Alberta > > Canada. He put his religious denomination as Presbyterian . He was > described > > as being 5 foot and 9 inches tall, with fair complexion, brown eyes and > > brown hair.(enlistment details obtained from the online Canadian Archives) > > He died in France on August 16th 1917 and was buried at Noeux-Les-Mines > > Communal Cemetery (see Commonwealth War Graves site). > > > > I found George Blake's birth and baptism in a list of Banbury Methodist > > circuit baptisms held at the Society of Genealogists. . He was probably > > either baptised at home or at Bodicote Methodist Chapel (sometimes known > as > > Blakes Chapel), which was built in 1848 on land belonging to his father > > George Fessey Blake (1808-1872). He is recorded as being born October 1st > > 1850 and being baptised April 28th 1851. I haven't the exact date of his > > marriage but according to the faded newspaper cutting of his Golden > Wedding > > it took place at Banbury Methodist Chapel. > > > > My newspaper cutting of George's funeral doesn't give a date, just that it > > was a Thursday afternoon. I did notice that Ellen wasn't listed among the > > mourners but in 1932 the Kings Sutton Primitive Methodists united with the > > Kings Sutton Wesleyan Methodists and on July 7th 1936 at the stone laying > of > > the new Methodist Church Mrs Ellen Blake layed a stone. > > > > Best Wishes > > Ann > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Grady" <mark.grady@bigpond.com> > > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [BAN] Update on George Blake of Kings Sutton (1848-1929) > > > > > > > Ann > > > > > > Thank you for the update!! > > > > > > The names in the Obituary for George Blake - I cant place the surnames > as > > > yet - I wonder if the Mr and Mrs Howes (should be Hone). The others > could > > > be on the Elliott family which was Ellen's mothers family. > > > > > > Richard Augustus Plackett bapt 2 May 1858 Banbury was the son of Richard > > > Plackett (died 1862 Banbury) and Sarah Elliott). > > > > > > Do you have the dates for George's baptism can not locate on Bodicote > > PR's. > > > Marriage date for George & Ellen is 1877 in Banbury registration > district > > > but cant find it at either Adderbury or Bodicote any ideas? > > > > > > What was his death/burial date in 1929?? > > > No I havent found Ellen Blake's death as yet. BUt her name was not > > amongst > > > the mourners you listed - does this mean that she would have died before > > > 1929!! > > > > > > 1901 English Census RG13/1409 Folio 48 pg 19 notess > > > > > > Whittal Street > > > > > > George Blake Head M 52 years Bodicote OXF Butcher > > > Ellen Blake Wife M 51 years Adderbury, OXF > > > Edwin Stanley nephew S 21 years Deddington OXF Butcher > > > Arthur Stanley nephew S 15 years Woodstock OXF butcher > > > Lizzie Robinson niece 22 years Leicester > > > > > > (Lizzie is a neice of Ellen's daughter of > > > her sister Sarah nee Hone and Jabez Bunting Robinson) > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Mark G (Australia) > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ann Johnston" <annp.johnston@tiscali.co.uk> > > > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:20 AM > > > Subject: [BAN] Update on George Blake of Kings Sutton (1848-1929) > > > > > > > > > For Mark Grady > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > I have just updated my data on George Blake of Kings Sutton > (1848-1929) > > > and Ellen Hone who appears to have been a daughter of William Hone, > plush > > > hand loom loom weaver of Adderbury and his wife Mary Ann nee Elliot. > > > > > > > > > Trustee of Kings Sutton Primitive Methodist Church. Awarded a Diploma of > > > Honour from the Band of Hope Union in recognition of services 1877-1912. > > At > > > George's funeral in 1929 the King's Sutton Band of Hope and Temperance > > > Society sent a wreath and Mr P.Meadows represented the Ancient Order of > > > Rechabites. > > > > > > In 1881 George and his wife Ellen were living at Whittle Street Kings > > > Sutton. They had no children but a 12 year old nephew Thomas Holmes was > > > boarding with them. According to the 1881 census Thomas' mother Ann > > Holmes > > > (nee Hone) was a 40 year old widow working in Reading as a domestic > > servant > > > for a Joseph and Mary Huntley who may have been related in some way as > > they > > > were both born in Adderbury. > > > > > > When George Blake retired from his butchers's shop in or around 1910, > it > > > was sold to a Mr Simms. However after 3 years the shop burnt to the > ground > > > so George bought the ruins and presented the site to the Primitive > > > Methodist Church to bulid a new chapel at some future date. > > > > > > George and Ellen celebrated their Golden Wedding in 1927 when they were > > > presented with a silver teapot by the Rev W. Turner of Kings Sutton > > > Primitive Methodist Chapel. The cake was suppleid by Mr R.J. England of > > > North Newington. > > > > > > Ministers taking part in the funeral of George Blake were Rev.R. Bolton, > > Rev > > > C.Thompson, Rev.W.Tuner of Hungerford. There was a service at the home > > > followed by interment in the cemetary. Mourners included nearly all the > > > members of the Primitive Methodist Church, also Mr. E. Blake (brother), > > Mrs > > > Stanley(sister), Mr and Mrs A. Stanley (nephew and neice), Mr T.Holmes > > > (nephew), Mr and Mrs C. Butler (nephew and neice), Mr W. H. Collett > > > (nephew), Mrs F. C. Grimsley (niece), Mr and Mrs Howes (nephew and > niece), > > > Mr. R. Plackett, Mr. O. Banwell. Mrs.W.Tturvey, Mr and Mrs England, Mr > F. > > > Bailey, Mr F Humphries, Mrs T.Gardner, Mrs Freeman (Tysoe), Mrs > > Brailsford, > > > Mrs Boswell (Banbury), Mr A. Jennings, Mrs Trinder, Mrs Neal, Messrs F F > > > Plank, Mr E.Plank, Mr and Mrs J Cousins. > > > > > > When the new Methodist Church was built at Kings Sutton in 1936 there > was > > a > > > plaque put up "To the glory of God and in honour of all who laid > > foundation > > > stones and bricks. Also in grateful memory of George Blake". > > > > > > Along with his brother Edwin, George was one of the executors and > trustees > > > of his Aunt Fanny Blake's will (1894) from which he inherited an annual > > sum > > > of £3 pa payable half-yearly. > > > > > > > > > I've included the list of mourners at George's funeral, as apart from > the > > > Blake and Stanleys, the other relatives must all be from the Hone side > of > > > the family. From the entry on the 1881 census Mr R. Plackett was > probably > > > Richard A. Plackett, a cousin of Ellen's. > > > > > > Do you know when Ellen died? > > > > > > Ann Johnston > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/04 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. 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