Hi Everyone. I couldn't resist that subject title. Sorry Joe! As is always the case, you took me back in time and memories popped up as fast as I could think them. No, I am not going to relate them all or claim that one of my ancestors was a sweep's boy! So relax! What I do remember was the excitement and the panic when the chimney caught fire. The first indication would be a dull roaring sound, as of course the fire was well out of sight within the chimney itself. Or a neighbour came breathlessly knocking at the door to relate the "good" news. Then we all rushed out to see the awesome sight of flames intermittantly gushing from the chimney, and a positive fusillade of lively looking bright sparks arcing out into the sky. A pretty sight after dark! But hey, don't dawdle----bags of salt had to be produced and handfuls thrown as high up on the fireback as possible. In the meantime heavy sacks were thoroughly damped and the fireplace blocked off with them. Red hot soot would be falling into the firebox, to be confined behind the sacks, which were there to cut off the draught. Hopefully this would do the trick and the roaring would lessen and the fire finally die down. Most times the shame of having to call out the firebrigade to a chimney fire was avoided.The roof was well checked and of course the previous "exercise" generated a lot of extra cleaning, in the clearing up process. It was a nuisance, but soon rectified, and there was the bonanza of extra soot for the garden! But how differently it could have turned out. Slate rooftiles in a Midland city did not ignite, but in the Oxfordshire village of my paternal grandfather-----the fountain of sparks could have set the thatched roof on fire, or the heat of the fire itself overheated aged wooden beams and their home would have been lost. Whatever! It was as well to have the sweep booked on a regular basis to avoid the events I've narrated. When I lived in the isolation of the Sounds we swept our own chimney. No, we didn't have any tools for the job! Well, a ladder was needed, of course. We chose a nice brushy bit of manuka with a slender pliable trunk. Fastened this to a long stout wire ( number 8 is the NZ farmer's chief standby!) ---and it made a good job of removing residual soot. My modern home is heated by an efficient closed woodburner, so I need to have the chimney swept, even to this day. But what a difference! The sweep unpacks the gear from his van, protects and masks the area around the woodburner and then uses his vacuum apparatus. It is both efficient and clean. It is no longer a colourful episode, but I won't complain, as there is no mess to clean up! Regards, Muriel. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005

Hi folks, > Another mail tomorrow all - I must go eat - hubby's cooked!!!!!!!!! Yeeeees ladies, *very good*, you were on the ball last night *>)))~ We ate a bit late, but the meal was lovely:>) Anyway, moving on ;>) ......... Dolores & your MAYCOCK's Hopefully these are yours & will help with a few more details on your tree or give other leads. All entries from St Mary's Banbury Bap 23/3/1860 HARRISS, Susan d of Thomas & Sarah, Neithrop, labr. No bapt entry for a James Richard MAYCOCK. Mar 14/2/1880 (Valentines day :>) MAYCOCK James Richard, 23, bach, bricklayer, Cherwell St., s of Joseph, mason. & HARRIS Susan, 20, spin, Neithrop, d of Thomas, furnaceman Wit:- Thomas & Harriet HARRIS, by banns Baps;- 31/3/1880 Sarah Ann d of James Richard & Susan, Church Lane, bricklayer 3/9/1882 Susan d of James Richard & Susan, Camberwell, porter 9/9/1883 Edith Mary d of JR & Susan, St James, Hatcham, railway porter 15/4/1885 Ellen Elizabeth d of JR & Susan, St Giles's, Hatcham, railway porter 1/8/1888 William Joseph s of JR & Susan, St James, Hatcham, railway porter 2/91891 Kate d of JR & Susan, Newcross, London, railway 15/7/1896 James Richard s of JR & Susan, Edward St., Newcross, St. James, Hatcham, railway porter 15/7/1896 Elsie d of, ditto of above. Angela:>) co admin Banbury

Barbara, Hope you catch this before unsubbing - have a wonderful time, enjoy every minute - don't worry about the 'broke' bit, money comes & goes -(my bank statement yesterday proves that! :>((( Dreams & adventures are for living & priceless ;>)) Give our Muriel/Dawn & Mike a hug from me - look fwd to seeing the pics when you get back Safe, happy travelling Angela:>) co admin Banbury > Hi to all listers: I am taking off tonight from Ottawa, Canada for an > adventure in the Antipodes. First to England for a week then to Perth > Australia and points east, off down to New Zealand where I have a date > with our Muriel, back to Australia to visit my brother and then to the > Phillipines to meet and old school friend from England. Then I have > another three weeks in England and intend to visit our Dawn and Mike in > their new abode and so back to Canada at the end of April - broke and > exhausted I expect. I will be taking pictures and hope to post ones of > our friends and to pass on any words of wisdom from them. > I am now going to Unsubscribe and hope to connect with you again in > May. Good luck to all! > Barbara Adair.

I am still collecting these bits for further volumes of "Before I forget....". I am going to get moved, settled in and then do it with my new computer system when I get it. So, keep the memories coming. I have at least another two volumes worth. I have swept a few chinlies in me time. Sorry if this e-mail upsets the purists on list. I know it is not strictly to do with genealogy, but it is "our" project!!! Incidentally, Banbury is well known for its puritans. They burnt down the original Banbury Cross and hung a cat for killing a mouse on Sunday! Ian Researching Huckin(g), Howse and Herbert>

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of "Boddington Memories" by Barbara Hornby? I have had a query off list. Yours, Ian

Tasty???? ;o| -----Original Message----- From: Betty Rhodes [mailto:rhodesbetk@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2005 11:45 a.m. To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAN] Banbury/Grimsbury/Neithrop[ Which way did you Cook Him; Boiled or Roasted. ???? betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Allen" <angela.allen72@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:37 AM Subject: [BAN] Banbury/Grimsbury/Neithrop[ > Hi Jill & Hubert, > Jill I assume you live in Banbury -- or have done - nice > to find another 'native' on list:>) > > As you say Jill - 'West Street' is within 'Grimsbury area' of the town. > Which used to be a seperate hamlet & came under N'hants until 1889. > These days Grimsbury has been absorbed as 'an area of town' - just > a stroll over the width of the railway bridge. > > 'West bar' is t'other side of the town/High St/Cross -- leading onto > Broughton rd/Woodgreen avenue/Bear garden Rd/Bath Rd etc. > (as locals now know it ;>) > 'West Bar' was once 'West Bar Street' - this causes confusion. --- > > Another mail tomorrow all - I must go eat - hubby's cooked!!!!!!!!! > > Angela:>) > co admin Banbury > > > > >> I am not sure about in 1881, but WEST STREET is in GRIMSBURY (a sort of > suburb but really part of Banbury) NEITHROP is another but the other side > of > BANBURY, and WEST BAR is in the town proper and not near WEST STREET.. If > he > had a butcher shop it is more likely but not necessarily it was in WEST > BAR. >> In Banbury there is WEST BAR, SOUTH BAR and NORTH BAR, not bars but areas > that are in the town centre. > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Have a wonderful trip...For one like that I would gladly be broke and exhausted.... Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adair" <adair@ncf.ca> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: [BAN] Adventures. > Hi to all listers: I am taking off tonight from Ottawa, Canada for an > adventure in the Antipodes. First to England for a week then to Perth > Australia and points east, off down to New Zealand where I have a date > with our Muriel, back to Australia to visit my brother and then to the > Phillipines to meet and old school friend from England. Then I have > another three weeks in England and intend to visit our Dawn and Mike in > their new abode and so back to Canada at the end of April - broke and > exhausted I expect. I will be taking pictures and hope to post ones of > our friends and to pass on any words of wisdom from them. > I am now going to Unsubscribe and hope to connect with you again in > May. Good luck to all! > Barbara Adair. > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi to all listers: I am taking off tonight from Ottawa, Canada for an adventure in the Antipodes. First to England for a week then to Perth Australia and points east, off down to New Zealand where I have a date with our Muriel, back to Australia to visit my brother and then to the Phillipines to meet and old school friend from England. Then I have another three weeks in England and intend to visit our Dawn and Mike in their new abode and so back to Canada at the end of April - broke and exhausted I expect. I will be taking pictures and hope to post ones of our friends and to pass on any words of wisdom from them. I am now going to Unsubscribe and hope to connect with you again in May. Good luck to all! Barbara Adair.

Which way did you Cook Him; Boiled or Roasted. ???? betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Allen" <angela.allen72@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:37 AM Subject: [BAN] Banbury/Grimsbury/Neithrop[ > Hi Jill & Hubert, > Jill I assume you live in Banbury -- or have done - nice > to find another 'native' on list:>) > > As you say Jill - 'West Street' is within 'Grimsbury area' of the town. > Which used to be a seperate hamlet & came under N'hants until 1889. > These days Grimsbury has been absorbed as 'an area of town' - just > a stroll over the width of the railway bridge. > > 'West bar' is t'other side of the town/High St/Cross -- leading onto > Broughton rd/Woodgreen avenue/Bear garden Rd/Bath Rd etc. > (as locals now know it ;>) > 'West Bar' was once 'West Bar Street' - this causes confusion. --- > > Another mail tomorrow all - I must go eat - hubby's cooked!!!!!!!!! > > Angela:>) > co admin Banbury > > > > >> I am not sure about in 1881, but WEST STREET is in GRIMSBURY (a sort of > suburb but really part of Banbury) NEITHROP is another but the other side > of > BANBURY, and WEST BAR is in the town proper and not near WEST STREET.. If > he > had a butcher shop it is more likely but not necessarily it was in WEST > BAR. >> In Banbury there is WEST BAR, SOUTH BAR and NORTH BAR, not bars but areas > that are in the town centre. > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Apologies to the list if I jammed up any mailboxes, I clicked reply and sent an Census image to the list rather than one person, again I am sorry Best wishes Mo --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

Hi Jill & Hubert, Jill I assume you live in Banbury -- or have done - nice to find another 'native' on list:>) As you say Jill - 'West Street' is within 'Grimsbury area' of the town. Which used to be a seperate hamlet & came under N'hants until 1889. These days Grimsbury has been absorbed as 'an area of town' - just a stroll over the width of the railway bridge. 'West bar' is t'other side of the town/High St/Cross -- leading onto Broughton rd/Woodgreen avenue/Bear garden Rd/Bath Rd etc. (as locals now know it ;>) 'West Bar' was once 'West Bar Street' - this causes confusion. --- Another mail tomorrow all - I must go eat - hubby's cooked!!!!!!!!! Angela:>) co admin Banbury > I am not sure about in 1881, but WEST STREET is in GRIMSBURY (a sort of suburb but really part of Banbury) NEITHROP is another but the other side of BANBURY, and WEST BAR is in the town proper and not near WEST STREET.. If he had a butcher shop it is more likely but not necessarily it was in WEST BAR. > In Banbury there is WEST BAR, SOUTH BAR and NORTH BAR, not bars but areas that are in the town centre.

Hi Hubert, We have had several contacts before re your Flowers family, I'm glad you have now got the pic from Banbury web site for Henry or 'Harry' Flowers buried @ Southam rd cemetery Yes Henry & Ann did have 10 children all bapt in Banbury - but not all of them at St Mary's Cof E. Possibly you did not receive this post last time I sent it for you via list - would you be kind enough to let me know if you get this one & if it helps your research any please Hubert - Thanks. Baptisms from St Mary's ....... 1848 Emily Anne 1850 Clement 1852 Bernard 1866 Hubert Henry Baptisms from Christchurch South Banbury ........... 1854 Harry 1856 Horace 1857 Edgar Harris 1859 Ada Louise 1860 Laura Annie 1863 Amy Alexandra Seems Henry & Ann changed churches for several years - therefore a change in their religious beliefs may be possible also - have you looked at Methodist records etc/villages/out of county for marriages ?? From the info that can be found in baptism entries for Henry & Ann's offspring - Henry is noted as being *butcher 1848 in the Market Place, then from 1850 (2nd child) *butcher, High Street. I know Henry is recorded in 'Kelly's Directory' with his exact address, number 30 High St seems to ring a bell with me - but you need to chase that one for details yourself. By 1879 Clement - Henry & Ann's 1st son is also married & baptising children - 1st with an address in High St, then by 1885 Fish St (now known as George St) then by 1887 back to no. 20 High St. Clement like Henry & several other family members are noted as 'butcher' Yes, Henry was a Mayor of Banbury for one term - therefore you should be able to find further information from either Banbury Museum or The Centre of Banburyshire Studies - the contact details for both I've recently given to list - so they will be in the list archives. HTH Hubert Angela co admin Banbury > Hubert was born 1866 Banbury baptized ST MARY C&E. jan 1866. > HUBERT,S father HENRY mother ANN ,HENRY was mayor of Banbury at one time > HENRY and ANN had ten children all born Banbury and baptized ST MARY C&E. > Hubert USA

In a message dated 18/01/2005 21:38:14 GMT Standard Time, angela.allen72@btinternet.com writes: I must go eat - hubby's cooked!!!!!!!!! ..................a couple of hours on no.7??

Hi Listers, And a happy & prosperous 2005 to all! My Banbury interests are: HATTEN (Duns Tew) John (1784-1868) m. Ann MERRY (12 Feb. 1805, Swerford) - my 3xgt. g'parents. !0 Children, seem to have all been baptized in St. Mary Magdalen, Duns Tew. 4 of the sons emigrated to N. America. One of these was Thomas (1850-1910), my gt.gt. g'father. I have info tracing family back through John (1750-1803) m. Sarah CLEAVER (1752-1804) to William (1722-1788) m. Mary ? (1720-1781) but haven't seen documentation for all this. Can anyone help? Also, 3 of 3x gt. g'father John's brothers ((Edward, William & Thomas) seem to have married ARISes (Ann, Elizabeth & Hannah respectively). Where did these families live & how were they connected to the HATTENs? 3x gt. g'father, John HATTEN was a baker, as was his son, William(1816-1899). John & family were parishioners of Duns Tew; can anyone tell me where the bakeshop would have been? When answering above questions please remember that I live in British Columbia, Canada so am not very familiar with Banbury area locations etc. Need specifics re locations, details of sources & so forth. Pictures would be most welcome. TIA, Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela Allen <angela.allen72@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: [BAN] Roll call for all members - Angela > Hi all, > Re previous post (Thumb twiddlers) > > It's New year, we always have a 'roll call' for names/brickwalls & > any research interests at this time. > Previous 'list lurkers' are especially encouraged to participate:>) > > Any chance some of you can post your requests - just to update > us 'long time' members, (who will otherwise just get fat on 'Dough > cake/Banbury cakes' swapping recipes, while our research material > gathers dust ;>) & of course so all our newer members can see we > do actually have 'gene interests' *>) > > To start the cake - sorry, ball rolling - my research includes ......... > > ARIS/WHEELER/YOUNG/BULL/WATTS/GASCOINGE/HAWTIN/ > HERITAGE plus others - all so far from around Banburyshire, apart > from YOUNG which comes from Antrim, Ireland. > > Time span I'm stuck with is going back from John ARIS married Mary > BULL @ Middleton Cheney 7/11/1785 - need Baps & parents for them > Maybe then I can connect to other ARIS/S researchers & join another > link in the long chain > > George YOUNG son of Charles YOUNG & Mary DUNLOP born/bapt > 18/7/1880 Antrim, Ireland - siblings? any other info a huge bonus! > > Who's next to tell their's ........... PLEEEASE! > > Angela:>) > Admin Banbury list > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Angela, Yes I am a native Banburian through and through, was born there and lived there in Grimsbury,( Cheney Road), until I was 24. My grandparents at one time lived in West Street Grimsbury. I didn't know that Grimsbury used to be in N'hants, interesting. I moved to the States in '68, New Hampshire. Love you know ! He swept me off my feet ! I am still very English though. I love this site, it is so interesting, congrats to all who make it so, Jill. Angela Allen <angela.allen72@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Jill & Hubert, Jill I assume you live in Banbury -- or have done - nice to find another 'native' on list:>) As you say Jill - 'West Street' is within 'Grimsbury area' of the town. Which used to be a seperate hamlet & came under N'hants until 1889. These days Grimsbury has been absorbed as 'an area of town' - just a stroll over the width of the railway bridge. 'West bar' is t'other side of the town/High St/Cross -- leading onto Broughton rd/Woodgreen avenue/Bear garden Rd/Bath Rd etc. (as locals now know it ;>) 'West Bar' was once 'West Bar Street' - this causes confusion. --- Another mail tomorrow all - I must go eat - hubby's cooked!!!!!!!!! Angela:>) co admin Banbury > I am not sure about in 1881, but WEST STREET is in GRIMSBURY (a sort of suburb but really part of Banbury) NEITHROP is another but the other side of BANBURY, and WEST BAR is in the town proper and not near WEST STREET.. If he had a butcher shop it is more likely but not necessarily it was in WEST BAR. > In Banbury there is WEST BAR, SOUTH BAR and NORTH BAR, not bars but areas that are in the town centre. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

>> Joe was your chimney sweep Mr Albert Williams >> from the village of South Newington I cannot know for sure but I believe he was a Coventry Kid, button cap and all. -- Joe Connell Confirmed virus free by Norton 2005 before transmission with Mozilla Thunderbird

I am wondering if the ELGIN HOUSE WEST BAR ST,# 29. would this house still there? Hubert ,use flt1469@bellsouth.net

Hi Angela, I've been 'lurking' in the background as I am now actively researching my own family history in Manchester and Lincoln. Isn't Google marvellous!!? Mike and I took photos of all the Aris graves last year. I had no idea of the background here. Happy New Year to everyone Catherine Catherine Pritchard Pritchard and Edmunds Family History http://www.mypritchardfamily.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: Angela Allen [mailto:angela.allen72@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:24 PM To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BAN] ARIS & other connections Hi everyone For all those with an ARIS connection on list this may interest you. 'Google' search Dr Michael ARIS - a very sad story. World leaders in 1999 (Bill Clinton being one) left a condolence statement for Michaels 2 sons & his wife Suu Kyi on the web site & many leading newspapers/groups also reported on his death. Michael Vaillancourt ARIS is buried at Weedon Lois, N'hants, amongst other members of his family, he died on his 53rd birthday March 1999 This branch of the ARIS clan is one that myself & Catherine Pritchard have been researching for family connections, Catherine has an ARIS/ EDMUNDS interest. Angela Co admin Banbury ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Joe was your chimney sweep Mr Albert Williams from the village of South Newington Anne Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Connell" <jfc.public@virgin.net> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:21 PM Subject: [BAN] Re: Memories of the 40s > There is nothing quite so welcoming as an open > fire. Unfortunately this brought with it the > necessity of an annual visit by Mr Williams. > Burning coal (and anything else small enough to > fit into the hearth) gradually accumulated a layer > of soot in the chimney walls. Eventually this > could ignite, with regrettable consequences. At > worst, the Fire Brigade would arrive, insert their > hose into the chimney, turn on the water, and > extinguish both fire and all pride in home > furnishings. Then present a bill for services > rendered. > > The theory of sweeping a chimney was beautifully > simple. A circular stiff brush was pushed up the > chimney from the fireplace on an extending shaft > of bamboo poles, until it emerged from the chimney > pot. Then it was pulled back down again, removing > the bulk of the soot lining the chimney walls. > > There was a minor problem – that of controlling > the soot that gravity delivered back into the > fireplace. A skilled sweep left very little mess, > charged professional prices, and took the soot > away. Mr Williams, number 53, was an enthusiast > who owned his own brushes, and left the soot for > Granddad. > > The correct procedure was to insert the first > length of bamboo with the brush head into the > chimney, and then to seal the fireplace area with > a cloth and sticky tape. The cloth had a small > centre hole, through which each bamboo length > could be attached to its predecessor, until the > small but enthusiastic assistant <ahem> reported > from the street that the brush head was visible. > > Younger readers may care to consider at this point > that vacuum cleaners were unknown in our > neighbourhood. Subsequent cleanup operations > involved woodbines, tears, screams ('never again') > and copious supplies of hot water from the geyser. > Fortunately, fitted carpets were equally unknown > and linoleum was easily washed -- the walls > provided rather more of a problem. > > Ironically, genealogy has since shown that my male > Coates ancestors were all Master Sweeps; the > female members being umbrella makers. Now my > mother’s tears can be understood. > > > -- > Smokey > > Confirmed virus free by Norton 2005 before > transmission with Mozilla Thunderbird > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi everyone For all those with an ARIS connection on list this may interest you. 'Google' search Dr Michael ARIS - a very sad story. World leaders in 1999 (Bill Clinton being one) left a condolence statement for Michaels 2 sons & his wife Suu Kyi on the web site & many leading newspapers/groups also reported on his death. Michael Vaillancourt ARIS is buried at Weedon Lois, N'hants, amongst other members of his family, he died on his 53rd birthday March 1999 This branch of the ARIS clan is one that myself & Catherine Pritchard have been researching for family connections, Catherine has an ARIS/ EDMUNDS interest. Angela Co admin Banbury