Hi Dorothy I was also told that he came from Sibford. Just had a look at the PRs but he isn't mentioned. I seem to remember hearing somewhere that the LAMBs (or some of them) were Quakers. There is a Quaker Meeting House in Sibford - I remember looking around it's graveyard as I was on the trail of my ancestor James Stevenson/Henry HUNT born 1848. Got quite excited when I found the grave for a Henry Stevenson LAMB given the middle name they shared but he was born circa 1889 so I don't think there is any connection. His parents were Joshua and Lucy Sophia LAMB. Sorry, I am going off topic ....... I am interested in Sibford and its history so if anyone has any other stories to tell, I would really like to hear them. Karen Hunt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Gibbs" <dorothy.gibbs@pandorasbox2.demon.co.uk> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] LAMB//South Newington > In message <055e01c502c6$56e38a60$6124fc3e@sbnl.com>, Jonathan & Karen > Hunt <hunt.household@virgin.net> writes > >I was just thinking about him the other day. According to my father in law > >he used to ride a bicycle without any tyres!! I have recently come across > >an ancestor in Sibford Gower named Theodore BLOXHAM which is what got me > >thinking about Mr Lamb!! > > Hi Karen, > My sister told me this morning that she thought he came from Sibford... > but I only remember seeing him near Tadmarton. I wouldn't have strayed > as far as Sibford while out playing. > > Dorothy > -- > Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK) > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005
In message <055e01c502c6$56e38a60$6124fc3e@sbnl.com>, Jonathan & Karen Hunt <hunt.household@virgin.net> writes >I was just thinking about him the other day. According to my father in law >he used to ride a bicycle without any tyres!! I have recently come across >an ancestor in Sibford Gower named Theodore BLOXHAM which is what got me >thinking about Mr Lamb!! Hi Karen, My sister told me this morning that she thought he came from Sibford... but I only remember seeing him near Tadmarton. I wouldn't have strayed as far as Sibford while out playing. Dorothy -- Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK)
Hi Janet, I should have posted this to list as well as to Richard. Here's the 1841 to add to your 51, plus more entries from Gt .Tew prs. Barb 1841 CENSUS Great Tew Catherine LAMB 60 Ind. Charity LAMB 20 George LAMB 7 William LAMB 4 James LAMB 1 All born Oxfordshire except Catherine Seems the 1834 Baptism for John must relate to George.? Gt Tew baptisms 1834 Nov 10 LAMB John illeg s Charity 1837 Apr 2 LAMB William illeg s Charity 1840 Mar 15 LAMB James illeg s Charity Jan 29 1842 Feb 2 LAMB Joseph illeg s Charity LAMB 1818 Aug 23 Charity d William & Catherine, lab 1810 Jul 15 William s William & Katherine 1814 Apr 10 Hannah d William & Catherine soldier 1816 n d Charlotte d William & Catherine ,lab 1822 May 19 Abraham s William & Katherine, lab This looks like one of William's too? 1809 Mar 19 LAMB Levy ,Bastard s William & Phillis WALKER at L T I found William's burial 1830 Jun 27 LAMB William 49 GT Which would make him the right age for this baptism 1781 Feb 18 LAMB William s Thos. & Ann I'll look further at Thos. & Ann asap. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] LAMB//South Newington >> > HO 107/1732, folio 600, page 18 > Great Tew > > Chrisa LAMB Head Widow 79 Ag Lab widow Cornwall > (I think - the copy I have is very faint and difficult to read) > Abm LAMB Son Mar 29 Ag Labr > Oxfordshire - Great Tew > C LAMB Dau in law Mar 19 (Cant read her place > of birth, but in the PR Marriages she is shown as Charlotte) > George LAMB G Son U 18 Ag Labr Oxon - Great > Tew > Willm LAMB G Son U 14 do do > A LAMB G Daur 1 do (Shown in > parish records as Ann Eliza d Abraham & Charlotte) > > Hope this adds to your information. > > Janet Booth. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb Stacey" <barb@forward15.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:04 AM > Subject: [BAN] LAMB//South Newington > > >> Hi Richard, >> >>>From South Newington Parish Registers ( OFHS fiche copy) >> Baptisms >> 1861 May 20 LAMB Charity Louisa d George & Charlotte. labr >> John Dale Mrs. Jas. Warr. Mrs Ja. Hartley. >> 1865 Nov 5 LAMB Jane Elizabeth d George & Charlotte , labr >> >> These are the only children of George & Chalotte baptised in South >> Newington >> >> Barb S. >> >>> James Albert (snr) 's father was a George Lamb born 1834 in Great Tew >>> and he married a Charlotte Grimmet (also b Great Tew 1828) in Dec qtr >>> 1854 ( Chipping Norton v3a p1112) They had four children, the eldest >>> being James Albert ( b 1855 Great Tew) then three daughters ( Charity >>> b1860, Elizabeth b 1863 and Caroline b 1867all born South Newington) >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >
Hi Dorothy I was just thinking about him the other day. According to my father in law he used to ride a bicycle without any tyres!! I have recently come across an ancestor in Sibford Gower named Theodore BLOXHAM which is what got me thinking about Mr Lamb!! Karen Hunt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Gibbs" <dorothy.gibbs@pandorasbox2.demon.co.uk> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] LAMB//South Newington > In message <004801c50271$7180beb0$bc6289c3@barbarahr03wd7>, Barb Stacey > <barb@forward15.freeserve.co.uk> writes > >>From South Newington Parish Registers ( OFHS fiche copy) > >Baptisms > >1861 May 20 LAMB Charity Louisa d George & Charlotte. labr > >John Dale Mrs. Jas. Warr. Mrs Ja. Hartley. > >1865 Nov 5 LAMB Jane Elizabeth d George & Charlotte , labr > > > >These are the only children of George & Chalotte baptised in South Newington > > > > I wonder if these Lamb's are related to Theodore Lamb who became a tramp > known as 'old accident'. > I remember seeing him in the winter of 1940 at his shack near Tadmarton. > He used to write messages in the snow if he wanted something and the > villagers used to get it for him. > I was supposed to keep away from him but I was fascinated by him and > couldn't! > > Dorothy > -- > Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK) > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005
Hello, I live near to Banbury, and think I can remember seeing the name "Elgin House" engraved over the door of a building in the area. I am happy to check for you next time I go into Banbury (probably Thursday) Eleanor
Richard, Following on from this message from Barb re the baptism on 20 May 1861 of a Charity LAMMB daughter to George and Charlotte, although there is not a record of the baptism of George himself in Great Tew, there are the following two illegitimate baptisms recorded: 10 November 1835 LAMB John illeg. s Charity 2 April 1837 LAMB William illeg. s Charity. There is also the baptism of Charity herself on 23 August 1818 d of William & Catherine, lab. Given that Charity is a relatively uncommon name in the baptismal records of Great Tew, it might be worth bearing in mind. I then had another thought and checked the 1851 census of Great Tew and bingo I found George. The only thing that doesn't fit is the Christian name of what I assume to be his grandmother. In the baptisms, Charity is definitely recorded as the child of William and Catherine, as is the Abraham shown in the census below. However, the census shows her as Chrisa and the parish burial records show her as Christina?? (buried 18 April 1857 aged 85 years). Anyway, here is the census record: HO 107/1732, folio 600, page 18 Great Tew Chrisa LAMB Head Widow 79 Ag Lab widow Cornwall (I think - the copy I have is very faint and difficult to read) Abm LAMB Son Mar 29 Ag Labr Oxfordshire - Great Tew C LAMB Dau in law Mar 19 (Cant read her place of birth, but in the PR Marriages she is shown as Charlotte) George LAMB G Son U 18 Ag Labr Oxon - Great Tew Willm LAMB G Son U 14 do do A LAMB G Daur 1 do (Shown in parish records as Ann Eliza d Abraham & Charlotte) Hope this adds to your information. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Stacey" <barb@forward15.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:04 AM Subject: [BAN] LAMB//South Newington > Hi Richard, > >>From South Newington Parish Registers ( OFHS fiche copy) > Baptisms > 1861 May 20 LAMB Charity Louisa d George & Charlotte. labr > John Dale Mrs. Jas. Warr. Mrs Ja. Hartley. > 1865 Nov 5 LAMB Jane Elizabeth d George & Charlotte , labr > > These are the only children of George & Chalotte baptised in South > Newington > > Barb S. > >> James Albert (snr) 's father was a George Lamb born 1834 in Great Tew and >> he married a Charlotte Grimmet (also b Great Tew 1828) in Dec qtr 1854 >> ( Chipping Norton v3a p1112) They had four children, the eldest being >> James Albert ( b 1855 Great Tew) then three daughters ( Charity b1860, >> Elizabeth b 1863 and Caroline b 1867all born South Newington) > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >
i have no idea what end of West Bar house was located. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Allen" <angela.allen72@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] LOCATOR > Hi Hubert, > If I still lived in Banbury I would look for you - not possible > to do that from Somerset > > Do you know towards which end of West Bar St No. 29 was, > the town or Bear Garden - We have other means of trying to find > out for you !! (hopefully:>) > > Angela > co admin Banbury > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hff" <flt1469@bellsouth.net> > To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:37 PM > Subject: [BAN] LOCATOR > > >> would the house at 29 West Bar Street, i think it was > once called the >> Elgin House. be still there? >> flt1469@bellsouth.net > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >
Dorothy, This would be an ideal story for the Reminiscences section on the website! Hope to hear from you :-)) Rosemary, Northumberland UK ............................................................ Webmaster for Banburyshire Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/index.htm Email: banbury@prob.freeserve.co.uk ............................................................ > I wonder if these Lamb's are related to Theodore Lamb who > became a tramp known as 'old accident'. I remember seeing > him in the winter of 1940 at his shack near Tadmarton. He > used to write messages in the snow if he wanted something > and the villagers used to get it for him. I was supposed to > keep away from him but I was fascinated by him and couldn't!
would the house at 29 West Bar Street, i think it was once called the Elgin House. be still there? flt1469@bellsouth.net
I have just spent the good part of two hours going through old pictures to no avail. My mother had a picture of Theodore Lamb, and I used to have it ! Apparently he had a love affair that went sour and he retreated from life. He was a very intelligent man though. He was not a relative of ours but fasinating to the local children. Jonathan & Karen Hunt <hunt.household@virgin.net> wrote:Hi Dorothy I was just thinking about him the other day. According to my father in law he used to ride a bicycle without any tyres!! I have recently come across an ancestor in Sibford Gower named Theodore BLOXHAM which is what got me thinking about Mr Lamb!! Karen Hunt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Gibbs" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] LAMB//South Newington > In message <004801c50271$7180beb0$bc6289c3@barbarahr03wd7>, Barb Stacey > writes > >>From South Newington Parish Registers ( OFHS fiche copy) > >Baptisms > >1861 May 20 LAMB Charity Louisa d George & Charlotte. labr > >John Dale Mrs. Jas. Warr. Mrs Ja. Hartley. > >1865 Nov 5 LAMB Jane Elizabeth d George & Charlotte , labr > > > >These are the only children of George & Chalotte baptised in South Newington > > > > I wonder if these Lamb's are related to Theodore Lamb who became a tramp > known as 'old accident'. > I remember seeing him in the winter of 1940 at his shack near Tadmarton. > He used to write messages in the snow if he wanted something and the > villagers used to get it for him. > I was supposed to keep away from him but I was fascinated by him and > couldn't! > > Dorothy > -- > Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK) > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005 ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
In message <004801c50271$7180beb0$bc6289c3@barbarahr03wd7>, Barb Stacey <barb@forward15.freeserve.co.uk> writes >>From South Newington Parish Registers ( OFHS fiche copy) >Baptisms >1861 May 20 LAMB Charity Louisa d George & Charlotte. labr >John Dale Mrs. Jas. Warr. Mrs Ja. Hartley. >1865 Nov 5 LAMB Jane Elizabeth d George & Charlotte , labr > >These are the only children of George & Chalotte baptised in South Newington > I wonder if these Lamb's are related to Theodore Lamb who became a tramp known as 'old accident'. I remember seeing him in the winter of 1940 at his shack near Tadmarton. He used to write messages in the snow if he wanted something and the villagers used to get it for him. I was supposed to keep away from him but I was fascinated by him and couldn't! Dorothy -- Dorothy Gibbs (in Hertfordshire UK)
Hi Richard, From South Newington Parish Registers ( OFHS fiche copy) Baptisms 1861 May 20 LAMB Charity Louisa d George & Charlotte. labr John Dale Mrs. Jas. Warr. Mrs Ja. Hartley. 1865 Nov 5 LAMB Jane Elizabeth d George & Charlotte , labr These are the only children of George & Chalotte baptised in South Newington Barb S. > James Albert (snr) 's father was a George Lamb born 1834 in Great Tew and > he married a Charlotte Grimmet (also b Great Tew 1828) in Dec qtr 1854 ( > Chipping Norton v3a p1112) They had four children, the eldest being James > Albert ( b 1855 Great Tew) then three daughters ( Charity b1860, Elizabeth > b 1863 and Caroline b 1867all born South Newington)
Hi folks a few more details to what Richard has found himself - think he is lacking with actual dates/places. Do any of you connect with this LAMB family? Angela:>) ............................................................................................... Angela Thank you very much. Very quick potted history is as follows: ""James Albert Lamb (born Mar qtr 1855 Chipping Norton 3a 571) married Sophia Shrimpton (born Jun qtr 1857 Banbury 3a 613) in Sep qtr 1877 ( banbury 3a 1077). Their children were Albert H ( b Sibford 1878), Ernest W (b 1879 Hook Norton) Jane E ( b 1880 HN d 1883) Walter J ( b 1883 HN) George H ( b 1886 HN) and James Albert Lamb( b 5 Oct 1887 HN died 13 Apr 1917 Arras France and is buried there - he was my grandfather). Jane Elizabeth died Sep qtr 1883 Banbury 3a 457. James Albert (snr) 's father was a George Lamb born 1834 in Great Tew and he married a Charlotte Grimmet (also b Great Tew 1828) in Dec qtr 1854 ( Chipping Norton v3a p1112) They had four children, the eldest being James Albert ( b 1855 Great Tew) then three daughters ( Charity b1860, Elizabeth b 1863 and Caroline b 1867all born South Newington) James Albert Lamb snr died 1890 (Banbury 3a 554) and then Sophia appears to have had more children .. Edwin Thomas Lamb ( b Dec qtr 1891 Banbury 3a 8?0) Elsie Green (sic) Lamb ( b Sep qtr 1895 Banbury 3a 923) and Maud Eleanor G ( sic G for Green?) b Sep qtr 1898 Banbury 3a 981.. source is mainly 1901 census and FreeBMD. ( I am getting the birth certs for Edwin and Elsie just to find out who the father may have been as James had died too early .. I do note that the 1901 census shows a Thomas Green 43 yrs old b Swerford res in Hook Norton and an iron ore quarryman!) Sophia married Alfred Cannock in Dec qtr 1900 ( Banbury v3a p1910) when she was about 44 and he was 32. They lived in Over Norton and the 1901 census shows only James Albert jnr and the three new children as stepchildren to Alfred Cannock living at home. Of James Albert's five sons, in 1901 four are not living with/near Sophia and Alfred, the new stepfather - Albert is now 23 and a gunner in the Royal Artillery; he is boarding at the Bell Inn, Hook Norton - Ernest is 22 and a platelayer's navvy and is shown as a visitor( boarder?) in London - Walter is 18 and a painter-house restorer and is also boarding at the Bell Inn, HN with his brother - George is 15 and an agricultural labourer boarding in Bruern ( Abbey) village 6 miles from Over Norton. George Lamb,Sophia's father in law, is shown in 1901 as living alone in Swerford aged 68 as Charlotte had died in 1897 Certainly after my great grand father James Albert died in 1890 Sophia's prospects were not bright - being only 35 years old and having five sons under the age of 13 with little income and very few assets. And she ended up with a husband in 1900 much younger than her and not much older than her eldest son! Good on her I say. Also for what it is worth, James Albert (jnr) is shown on the CWGC website being buried in France 1917 and his son ( James William Harold Lamb b 1911 d 1946 and my father) is also on the site and buried in Fulford York - I have done searches for Sophia's other sons on that site with little success. My mum grew up near Hull and returned to York in 1945 with my father who was not well having spent all the war in the Middle East. After four years of post war privation she immigrated to Perth Western Australia in 1950 with my sister and me. She never married again and knew virtually nothing of my father's family; she is still alive at 97"" All this information is very new to me, Angela, and having being exposed to northerner Yorkshire all my life ( dales moors cricket and ale), I find this new " banburyshire" southerner background very refreshing indeed! Thanks again and any info would be greatly appreciated. Cheers .Richard James Lamb R J Lamb lambikins@ozemail.com.au
Greetings, I'm a new user to this list, so I thought I should provide my interests. My great-grandmother, Rhoda Whitehouse was born at "London Yard" in Banbury on Oct 24, 1855 to Thomas Whitehouse and Ann Elizabeth Randle. Thomas came from Warwick, so the family spend most of their lives in either Warwick or Birmingham. Rhoda married Francis Barnes in Birmingham on Dec 11, 1876. Hope to hear from someone with any connection to this family. Regards, Earl Chapman Montreal, Canada
Charlotte GRIMMETT had four siblings: George bapt 27 December 1822 Mary Anne bapt 11 April 1830 Daniel bapt 14 October 1832 buried 10 April 1833 Harriet bapt 23 August 1835 There is the record of a burial for a Maria GRIMMETT on 25 March 1837 aged 42 and the records of a baptism of a John GRIMMETT s Richard and Mary on 23 October 1791 and burial of John GRIMMETT on 15 December 1874 aged 83 years. No record of the marriage of John and Maria at Great Tew. Hope this whets your interest. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Allen" <angela.allen72@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: [BAN] Fw: LAMB/SHRIMPTON > Hi all, > With Richard's permission I'm fwd'ing his mail to list. > > I'm sure some of you will be able to offer Richard some > valuable advice or information to help him get settled > into his new hobby :>) > > Thanks as always folks > > Angela > co admin Banbury > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Ms Allen > > Thanks very much for your info and offer; but let me explain first...I am > very new to family history and did not know the word " banburyshire" > existed until last week. However I do like puzzles. I am researching my > father's people ( Lamb) with virtually zero family related knowledge. I > live in Canberra Australia and being a new amateur , I think I am doing > this the hard way. I use Free BMD and crosscheck via the GRO indexes on > microfiche here in our National Library plus subscribe to the 1871 81 91 > censuses via ancestry.com. Any good lead with a GRO index I order a > certificate from ONS ( what a service , I only wish we had something > similar). > But to your info. I knew sparsest details of the marriage via the above > method ( GRO Banbury v3a p1077) and indeed have just ordered the > certificate to find more about Sophia; James Albert the husband ( and my > great grandfather) died in 1890 and Sophia was 35 yrs old with five boys > at the time ( all Lambs) and had three more children between 1891 and 1898 > ( fathers unknown) before snaring a toyboy in 1900 ( an Alfred Cannock 32 > yrs) who was just older than her eldest son. So in my tyro way I became > quite fascinated by her survival instincts and indeed still am. > > Brickwalls? A new term to me but I think I can guess. Yes I do have some. > > No 1 ..I know George Lamb was born in 1834 in Great Tew and married in Dec > qtr 1854 ( Chipping Norton v3a p1112) a Charlotte Grimmet( b 1828 Great > Tew) Any leads on his or her forebears etc would be useful as I cannot get > much before 1837 from here via the internet. > > No 2.. Any further info on Sophia (Survivor) Shrimpton would be useful... > did she have more children with Alfred Cannock.. what was her background > etc.. I know she was born June qtr 1857 ( Banbury v 3a p 613) > > No 3.. James Albert and Sophia had five sons - Albert b 1878 Sibford, > Ernest b 1879 Hook Norton Walter b 1883 HN , George b 1886 HN and James > Albert ( jnr) b 1887 HN ...the last was my grandfather and I now know of > his details ( he was killed 1917 in Arras).. of the others I know nothing > > So Ms Allen thanks again for your help .. and before I get too verbose I > should finish ...except to observe that I find it amazing that this small > family of Lambs spent nearly a century being born, working and dying in > such a small area as " banburyshire"; The censuses shown they moved over > time between villages ( Great Tew, Sibford-Swalcliffe, South Newington, > Hook Norton, Over Norton) but not far at all by our standards. > > Cheers . Richard James Lamb > > > R J Lamb > lambikins@ozemail.com.au > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >
Hi Richard Sophia was one of 32 baptisms all on the same day. 16/2/1870 SHRIMPTON Sophia d of Jesse & Ann, Union Workhouse, lab. (born 8/2/1856) She was still there 5 yrs later! 17/6/1875 Kate d of Sophia SHRIMPTON Union Workhouse Angela:>) co admin Banbury
Hi Richard, If you're new to research in this area it's well worth a look at The Oxfordshire Family History Society's site at http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ There are several useful search facilities available through it and copies of Parish Registers on CD or Fiche plus other research aids. I can't find a baptism for George LAMB in Great Tew , but I did find Marriage 1854 Dec 25 LAMB George fa bach otp lab s ---- lab GRIMMETT Charlotte fa spin otp d John lab Wit. Daniel Scarlett William Norton Baptism 1828 Sept 25 GRIMMETT Charlotte d John & Maria, lab Hope this helps. Barb Stacey Solihull UK > Hi all, > With Richard's permission I'm fwd'ing his mail to list. > > I'm sure some of you will be able to offer Richard some > valuable advice or information to help him get settled > into his new hobby :>) > >
Hi all, With Richard's permission I'm fwd'ing his mail to list. I'm sure some of you will be able to offer Richard some valuable advice or information to help him get settled into his new hobby :>) Thanks as always folks Angela co admin Banbury ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ms Allen Thanks very much for your info and offer; but let me explain first...I am very new to family history and did not know the word " banburyshire" existed until last week. However I do like puzzles. I am researching my father's people ( Lamb) with virtually zero family related knowledge. I live in Canberra Australia and being a new amateur , I think I am doing this the hard way. I use Free BMD and crosscheck via the GRO indexes on microfiche here in our National Library plus subscribe to the 1871 81 91 censuses via ancestry.com. Any good lead with a GRO index I order a certificate from ONS ( what a service , I only wish we had something similar). But to your info. I knew sparsest details of the marriage via the above method ( GRO Banbury v3a p1077) and indeed have just ordered the certificate to find more about Sophia; James Albert the husband ( and my great grandfather) died in 1890 and Sophia was 35 yrs old with five boys at the time ( all Lambs) and had three more children between 1891 and 1898 ( fathers unknown) before snaring a toyboy in 1900 ( an Alfred Cannock 32 yrs) who was just older than her eldest son. So in my tyro way I became quite fascinated by her survival instincts and indeed still am. Brickwalls? A new term to me but I think I can guess. Yes I do have some. No 1 ..I know George Lamb was born in 1834 in Great Tew and married in Dec qtr 1854 ( Chipping Norton v3a p1112) a Charlotte Grimmet( b 1828 Great Tew) Any leads on his or her forebears etc would be useful as I cannot get much before 1837 from here via the internet. No 2.. Any further info on Sophia (Survivor) Shrimpton would be useful... did she have more children with Alfred Cannock.. what was her background etc.. I know she was born June qtr 1857 ( Banbury v 3a p 613) No 3.. James Albert and Sophia had five sons - Albert b 1878 Sibford, Ernest b 1879 Hook Norton Walter b 1883 HN , George b 1886 HN and James Albert ( jnr) b 1887 HN ...the last was my grandfather and I now know of his details ( he was killed 1917 in Arras).. of the others I know nothing So Ms Allen thanks again for your help .. and before I get too verbose I should finish ...except to observe that I find it amazing that this small family of Lambs spent nearly a century being born, working and dying in such a small area as " banburyshire"; The censuses shown they moved over time between villages ( Great Tew, Sibford-Swalcliffe, South Newington, Hook Norton, Over Norton) but not far at all by our standards. Cheers . Richard James Lamb R J Lamb lambikins@ozemail.com.au
Hi Ann Sadly, I can't add anything to what Angela said about this. I believe "my" Jarvis' were in Thenford and Farthingoe before Banbury, if it helps at all. Cheers Julie Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Ann Johnston [mailto:annp.johnston@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2005 6:25 AM To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Cc: > Subject: Re: [BAN] JARVIS & CAPORN Any idea why the White family of Newbottle near Kings Sutton may have used the name Jarvis for their eldest son bp in March 1732? . Jarvis or Jervice White was the son of James White and Frances nee Makepeace who married at Kings Sutton by license in July 1731. He himself married at Banbury in 1760. Ann Johnston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Fitzgerald" <julifitz@ozemail.com.au> To: <ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: RE: [BAN] JARVIS & CAPORN > I'd love to hear from anyone with any links to either the JARVIS or CAPORN > families of Banbury. These lines are unrelated to each other (except > through me!). > > My brick wall at the moment is the Faulkner family of Adderbury. John > Faulkner married Mary Watkins in 1811, and they had children Caroline, > Charles and Mary Anne, that I know of. > > Cheers > > Julie Fitzgerald > Melbourne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angela Allen [mailto:angela.allen72@btinternet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 9:11 AM > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BAN] Roll call for all members - Angela > > Hi all, > Re previous post (Thumb twiddlers) > > It's New year, we always have a 'roll call' for names/brickwalls & > any research interests at this time. > Previous 'list lurkers' are especially encouraged to participate:>) > > Any chance some of you can post your requests - just to update > us 'long time' members, (who will otherwise just get fat on 'Dough > cake/Banbury cakes' swapping recipes, while our research material > gathers dust ;>) & of course so all our newer members can see we > do actually have 'gene interests' *>) > > To start the cake - sorry, ball rolling - my research includes ......... > > ARIS/WHEELER/YOUNG/BULL/WATTS/GASCOINGE/HAWTIN/ > HERITAGE plus others - all so far from around Banburyshire, apart > from YOUNG which comes from Antrim, Ireland. > > Time span I'm stuck with is going back from John ARIS married Mary > BULL @ Middleton Cheney 7/11/1785 - need Baps & parents for them > Maybe then I can connect to other ARIS/S researchers & join another > link in the long chain > > George YOUNG son of Charles YOUNG & Mary DUNLOP born/bapt > 18/7/1880 Antrim, Ireland - siblings? any other info a huge bonus! > > Who's next to tell their's ........... PLEEEASE! > > Angela:>) > Admin Banbury list > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >
G'day Angela Sorry for the delay in replying. I had no idea I'd be off-line not long after responding to the roll call. I didn't have the information about Lucy Faulkner so thank you for her. What does the "AE" stand for? I have the 1827 christening from IGI batch records (just shows bapt date, mother Mary - no birthdate) and I was hoping this is not my girl! Not because of illegitimacy but because it makes tracing her harder. Sadly, MA's death certificate in Australia doesn't mention her parents. Two of her children were named Lucy, and Charles, which is suggestive but of course not conclusive. Her age at death was 54, in 1880, suggesting a birth year of around 1826. Her marriage certificate in 1848 lists her as marrying Robert Jarvis at Adderbury; father John Faulkner, labourer. She was pregnant at the time (they jumped on board a ship for Sydney not long after; baby was born on board). Do you happen to have a burial for a John Faulkner of Adderbury? Perhaps Mary was a widow when she got pregnant and/or had MA. Were there a lot of Faulkners in Adderbury? Another Mary perhaps? Thanks for your help Angela, and, as always, thank you so much for everything you do for this list, it's marvelous. Warmest regards Julie Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Angela Allen [mailto:angela.allen72@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2005 6:24 AM To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BAN] JARVIS & CAPORN Hi Julie, I've come across this baptism at Adderbury, apart from Caroline 1813 & Charles 1817 ........ Lucy d of John & Mary Falkner, AE, labr. bapt 31/8/1823 Haven't found any others for this couple in Adderbury But the only ones I have for a Mary Ann are 1824 d of Richard & Frances 1827 illigit d of Mary Falkner HTH Angela List Admin Banbury > My brick wall at the moment is the Faulkner family of Adderbury. John > Faulkner married Mary Watkins in 1811, and they had children Caroline, > Charles and Mary Anne, that I know of. > > Cheers > > Julie Fitzgerald > Melbourne ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx