Hi John, My husband has an ancestor who married a Taplin. Elizabeth Mawle (Maule) married John Taplin in Banbury 1870, she was born in Bloxham in 1847 daughter of James and Ann Maule, my husband is descended through her brother Thomas Maule.Do not know anymore of the Taplin side. Regards Marjorie Newson) Adelaide South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN PLESTER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [BAN] Back after a long absence > Indeed, I;ve been absent for so long that many people on the List probably don't know me. So, just in case a few relies have surfaced, my interests are: > > PLESTER, JOINES, TAPLIN and TEW all in the Banburyshire region. > > Regards to all, > > John Plester (Now living in Devon) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/891 - Release Date: 8/07/07 6:32 PM > >

Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann Franklin married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney (registered Banbury) Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have this Richard or their children on their radar?))) Brenda avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS) avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Ahem, 1829. Poor woman. -- Joe Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection

Thanks for the input Bill. I have no parents for the Thomas Daniel found in Chipping Warden 1841 and 1851 -- and only a mile away from Aston le Walls. Hmm. Every instinct tells me there was another set of William & Jane parents, but the children form such a nice orderly sequence, where does one draw a line? Jane Waddom died in 1929, hopefully not in labour. Possibly because of my nefarious youth I also considered whether some of them were grand children being explained away? [I've sent the nefarious youth away, we don't need his sort in this group ...] -- Joe Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection

Hi Joe, The OFHS Cropredy PR's show; 12 May 1780 BERRY William of Prescot Psh Cropredy WADDOMS Jane Psh Cropredy wit: Robert LEDBROOK Timothy HUNT lic. William & Jane were not baptised in Cropredy. But you already have this. I have some WADHAMS in my lines. Haven't got Jane, though. There are several WADDAMS/WADHAMS in (OFHS) Adderbury, including 7 Nov 1756 WADHAMS Jane d John & Hannah. This Jane would be 49 when Harriet was born. I haven't been able to find another William & Jane marriage that would confirm 2 different Wm & Janes baptising children in Appletree, but most of my source data is for OXF not NTH. I did find that Harriet marr Robert KIGHTLEY in Aston Le Walls on 22 Mar 1829. And in (OFHS) 1851Chipping Warden Census HO 107/1734 folio 179 KITELEY Robert HD m 44 Ag Lab NTH Chipping Warden " Harriett WI m 45 " Appletree " William SO u 17 Ag Lab " Chipping Warden " Thomas SO 13 " " " " Robert SO 11 " " " " Jane DA 8 " " " " Fredrick SO 6 " " " folio 173 BERRY Thomas HD m 47 Thatcher NTH Chipping Warden " Sarah WI m 56 " " " " John SO u 19 Thatcher " " " " William SO u 12 " " " " Edwin GS 3 " " " IF.......this Thomas was baptised in Appletree, and is Harriet's brother (another big IF), then there may be another William & Jane in Chipping Warden. Just throwing out thoughts! Swerford PR's has a note about a woman having a baby at age 50! But 56.....naaa! Goodnight, I'm getting rummy. Bill Watson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:35 AM Subject: [BAN] A bunch of BERRYs > William BERRY married Jane WADDONS, lived in Appletree, and apparently > produced 9 children: John 1782, Thomas 1784, Hannah 1786, William 1789, > Rebecca 1791, Jane 1793, Martha 1795, Thomas 1803 and Harriet 1805. > These are baptismal dates from the Aston le Walls register which also > confirms the parental names. > > My concern centres on the two boys named Thomas. The Thomas born in > 1784 survived until 1856 and was my ancestor. Why would another son > subsequently receive the same name as a living sibling? The early date > dates easily precedes the general introduction of two first names. The > second Thomas was apparently born to a mother aged 56 years. > > Long in fecundity but short in memory? > > The first Thomas married in Appletree during 1806 to Hannah FARMER. The > second Thomas appears in no record other than his baptism. Is it > possible that the first Thomas was baptised again three years before his > marriage? > > What about sister Harriet, born later to a mother 56 years in age? > -- > Joe Connell > > Firefox & Thunderbird portals > Sunbelt & Avast protection > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

William BERRY married Jane WADDONS, lived in Appletree, and apparently produced 9 children: John 1782, Thomas 1784, Hannah 1786, William 1789, Rebecca 1791, Jane 1793, Martha 1795, Thomas 1803 and Harriet 1805. These are baptismal dates from the Aston le Walls register which also confirms the parental names. My concern centres on the two boys named Thomas. The Thomas born in 1784 survived until 1856 and was my ancestor. Why would another son subsequently receive the same name as a living sibling? The early date dates easily precedes the general introduction of two first names. The second Thomas was apparently born to a mother aged 56 years. Long in fecundity but short in memory? The first Thomas married in Appletree during 1806 to Hannah FARMER. The second Thomas appears in no record other than his baptism. Is it possible that the first Thomas was baptised again three years before his marriage? What about sister Harriet, born later to a mother 56 years in age? -- Joe Connell Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection

Hubert The IGI is the International Genealogical Index giving the baptisms and marriages (not many deaths) taken from as many Parish Registers as the Mormons were able to obtain. There are now millions of names and dates across the world on their Index. They have a web-site www.familysearch.org where one can search. There are, as with all transcriptions some errors and there are parish registers that are not included. As with all information it needs to be checked as much as possible with other sources. My 3xgt grandfather has his two marriages indexed but none of his 13 children are listed. Devon is another county that is not represented very well. I have been told when I first started F.H. that it depended on when the registers were completed. Our main UK libraries hold most of the fiche for the IGI also at the Mormons' Family History Centres found in most large towns. I hope this is of help. I'm sure that others will either add or dispute some of this info but this is how I've found it over the years- helpful to find others that may be related but always requires checking. The IGI have had researchers delving into mediaeval families; one family of the same name as my ancestors goes back as far as the late 1200s. To date, I've not found a link with this branch; maybe one day I'll find something. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hubert Flowers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 04 Jul 2007 23:03 Subject: Re: [BAN] EARLY FLOWERS FAMILY > thank you for the help may i ask what is IGI ?is that available in the > sates? > i do know that a William flowers was a witness to marriage. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: [BAN] EARLY FLOWERS FAMILY > > > > Hi Hubert > > > > Have you tried Northamptonshire? > > There are John Flowers baptised 1760 Middleton Cheney, and John Flowers > > baptised 1759 Croughton, both in the IGI, who would be the right age to > > marry in > > 1786, and Banbury is very near to both. > > > > Regards > > > > > > Kim Sargerson > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > > British History Online > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 > > 10:02 AM > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I wonder if anyone would have a copy of the 1781 and 1786 Militia list for Middleton Cheney. I am looking for any Franklins/Franklings etc. on those lists and would appreciate any help if you might be able to view the lists. Sincerely, Brenda in Canada avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS) avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Welcome Back. "We are Dragging our Feet" Salute Plymouth for me. Many Memories. HMS Impregnable/Drake. betty, ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN PLESTER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: [BAN] Back after a long absence > Indeed, I;ve been absent for so long that many people on the List probably > don't know me. So, just in case a few relies have surfaced, my interests > are: > > PLESTER, JOINES, TAPLIN and TEW all in the Banburyshire region. > > Regards to all, > > John Plester (Now living in Devon) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Plymouth saluted - been on the sea for five hours today driving boats for a couple of dive teams. And yes, I know that's off topic and I promise to stick to family history in the future A very tired, wind-burnt, and salty, John. betty <[email protected]> wrote: Welcome Back. "We are Dragging our Feet" Salute Plymouth for me. Many Memories. HMS Impregnable/Drake. betty, ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN PLESTER" To: Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: [BAN] Back after a long absence > Indeed, I;ve been absent for so long that many people on the List probably > don't know me. So, just in case a few relies have surfaced, my interests > are: > > PLESTER, JOINES, TAPLIN and TEW all in the Banburyshire region. > > Regards to all, > > John Plester (Now living in Devon) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Indeed, I;ve been absent for so long that many people on the List probably don't know me. So, just in case a few relies have surfaced, my interests are: PLESTER, JOINES, TAPLIN and TEW all in the Banburyshire region. Regards to all, John Plester (Now living in Devon)

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Thank you all so much for all your help in finding this marriage for me . I really appreciate it! Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] Can someone check a marriage please? > Barbara, > >>From the OFHS Parish Register Transcripts of Horley: > > 24 January 1833 William ALLEN, parish of Shenington Co > Gloucester married Elizabeth STOCKLEY, parish Hornton Co Oxford By Banns. > Both made their mark and witnesses > were William > FRENCH and Elizabeth COOK > > I also have the parish register transcripts for Hornton and an Elizabeth > STOCKLEY was baptised there in 1815. It also looks from the Transcripts > as > if her mother and father were married at Hornton in 1809 but that neither > of > them were baptised there. Let me know if you want further details or if > you > would like to wait for your film to come through. > > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alf & Barbara Rosethorne" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:35 PM > Subject: [BAN] Can someone check a marriage please? > > >> Hi List, I was wondering if anyone could check a marriage for me. I've >> found this marriage on the IGI but the film it's on isn't available for >> the history centres. >> the details are: >> William Allen m Elizabeth Stockley 1833 Horley OXF. >> Elisabeth was from Hornton OXF & William from Shenington Glouc/Oxf >> I'm hoping to find out Elizabeth father's name. >> I've ordered the films of the Bishops Transcripts for Hornton & hopefully >> the Stockleys will be on it. >> Thank you in advance >> Barbara >> West OZ >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ >> British History Online >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 - Release Date: >> 27/06/2007 >> 21:08 >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 14795 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Barbara, >From the OFHS Parish Register Transcripts of Horley: 24 January 1833 William ALLEN, parish of Shenington Co Gloucester married Elizabeth STOCKLEY, parish Hornton Co Oxford By Banns. Both made their mark and witnesses were William FRENCH and Elizabeth COOK I also have the parish register transcripts for Hornton and an Elizabeth STOCKLEY was baptised there in 1815. It also looks from the Transcripts as if her mother and father were married at Hornton in 1809 but that neither of them were baptised there. Let me know if you want further details or if you would like to wait for your film to come through. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alf & Barbara Rosethorne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: [BAN] Can someone check a marriage please? > Hi List, I was wondering if anyone could check a marriage for me. I've > found this marriage on the IGI but the film it's on isn't available for > the history centres. > the details are: > William Allen m Elizabeth Stockley 1833 Horley OXF. > Elisabeth was from Hornton OXF & William from Shenington Glouc/Oxf > I'm hoping to find out Elizabeth father's name. > I've ordered the films of the Bishops Transcripts for Hornton & hopefully > the Stockleys will be on it. > Thank you in advance > Barbara > West OZ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 - Release Date: 27/06/2007 > 21:08 > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 14795 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Sorry Hubert - hit the wrong digit while typing previous mail Marriage was 22/1/1786 - not 1785 Angela

Hi Hubert, > John Flowers married Elizabeth Blackmore at Banbury ST Mary's Church > 1786 The marriage entry @ St Mary Banbury reads .... 22/1/1785 John FLOWERS, servant man, bach & BLACKMORE Elizabeth, botp Wit; William Flowers. As John Flowers was a 'servant man' he was probably 'living in' with the family that employed him in Banbury & could of been born anywhere inside/outside of the town/Banbury area. To state 'otp' on a marriage entry does not mean they were born in that place - just they were living there/had been living there for as little as a few weeks - (marriage banns only required 3 weeks notice) Maybe Elizabeth Blackmore was also born/baptised elsewhere - as looking through the Baps & burials for Banbury 1723 - 1812 the closest I can get is just one burial for a Sarah BLACKAMORE 24/4/1764, wife of Mr James, draftsman. I've previously sent you FLOWERS info I found at Middleton Cheney Hubert, but I can always look again if you need it refreshed And we know Banbury St Mary/Christchurch South has been well researched for all FLOWERS entries >From all you have shared with list on your family - you may not find entries for them in parish churches, but in parish chapels - ie Methodist/Baptist - Middleton Cheney had a large Baptist chapel following & Banbury had even more chapels to choose from for religious or other preference. This example as to why folks attended a certain place/changed allegiance from my own family research ......... My gg grandfather was baptised at Middleton Cheney parish church in 1837 In 1894 aged 57 yrs he was baptised into the Baptist Chapel at MC. The entry in the MC Baptist Chapel records state ........ 'Shardy in his religious convictions. One child having been confirmed, another being prepared. All this with the idea it is thought of obtaining future relief'. He knew he was dying & did die shortly after - but the Baptist chapel provided better support for widows & the children left behind than the parish church did - so he changed religion, hoping that would help those he loved when he no longer could. Many families attended the church/chapel that provided best relief/their employer attended/the most influential businessmen attended. Survival was hard enough, anything to help ease that passage. Angela co admin Banbury

Isy another good website, especially for the Oxford diocese is A Church Near You www.acny.org.uk For Bampton, at least, you can see a parish boundary map overlaid on a regular OS map. I think this is an Oxford thing. Warwickshire (well I only checked Tysoe) doesn't seem to have the same facilities. Jon Malings County Wexford, Ireland Thank you Jon. I will take a look at it. Issy

It's worth pointing out for those not familiar with IGI that there are at least two sorts of entries a) Those taken directly from parish registers. Very incomplete, with some transcription errors but I find them very useful indeed. A great tool for searching these by parish is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle b) The entries put in by members of the Latter Day Saints Church. I beleive these are based on Church members genealogical research. Again they can be very useful but also tantalisingly inaccurate with no information to back up where the data actually came from. I tend to treat with caution and use mainly as a pointer to where to look for the real thing. Jon Malings County Wexford, Ireland >From: "Maureen Short" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BAN] EARLY FLOWERS FAMILY - I.G.I. query >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:27:50 +0100 > >Hubert >The IGI is the International Genealogical Index giving the baptisms and >marriages (not many deaths) taken from as many Parish Registers as the >Mormons >were able to obtain. There are now millions of names and dates across the >world >on their Index. They have a web-site www.familysearch.org where one can >search. >There are, as with all transcriptions some errors and there are parish >registers >that are not included. As with all information it needs to be checked as >much as >possible with other sources. My 3xgt grandfather has his two marriages >indexed >but none of his 13 children are listed. Devon is another county that is not >represented very well. I have been told when I first started F.H. that it >depended on when the registers were completed. Our main UK libraries hold >most >of the fiche for the IGI also at the Mormons' Family History Centres found >in >most large towns. >I hope this is of help. I'm sure that others will either add or dispute >some of >this info but this is how I've found it over the years- helpful to find >others >that may be related but always requires checking. The IGI have had >researchers >delving into mediaeval families; one family of the same name as my >ancestors >goes back as far as the late 1200s. To date, I've not found a link with >this >branch; maybe one day I'll find something. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hubert Flowers" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: 04 Jul 2007 23:03 >Subject: Re: [BAN] EARLY FLOWERS FAMILY > > > > thank you for the help may i ask what is IGI ?is that available in the > > sates? > > i do know that a William flowers was a witness to marriage. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [BAN] EARLY FLOWERS FAMILY > > > > > > > Hi Hubert > > > > > > Have you tried Northamptonshire? > > > There are John Flowers baptised 1760 Middleton Cheney, and John >Flowers > > > baptised 1759 Croughton, both in the IGI, who would be the right age >to > > > marry in > > > 1786, and Banbury is very near to both. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Kim Sargerson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > > > British History Online > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: >7/3/2007 > > > 10:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > > British History Online > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ >British History Online >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Isy another good website, especially for the Oxford diocese is A Church Near You www.acny.org.uk For Bampton, at least, you can see a parish boundary map overlaid on a regular OS map. I think this is an Oxford thing. Warwickshire (well I only checked Tysoe) doesn't seem to have the same facilities. Jon Malings County Wexford, Ireland >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [BAN] www.bamptonoxon.co.uk >Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:44:19 EDT > >A very quick 'google' on Bampton came up with the following website >www.bamptonoxon.co.uk. I hope that helps! > >Geoff Parrish > >Thank you Geoff. I feel stupid now. I didn't realise it was a village. >I >thought it was a parish. I knew I should have paid more attention at >skool! > >Isy > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ >British History Online >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Hubert I am sure you know this already, even if the abbreviation is unfamiliar. IGI = International Genealogical Index, part of the Latter Day Saints website called familysearch.com. It is freely acessible on the net. Use with caution - lots of transcription errors, lots of supposition disguised as fact, and very few burial details. Always check any results against the original records, or a printed transcript, wherever possible. The originals will often give more information as well (e.g. witnesses to marriages, age and actual parish or hamlet of bride, groom, and parent of a baptised child, all usually omitted in the IGI). Regards Kim Sargerson