How fabulous, Wendy! This no doubt huge project will be greatly appreciated by many of us. Shawnna Mission, BC Canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Angela Allen Sent: July 19, 2007 1:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BAN] Fw: CD roms from OFHS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Archer" <[email protected]> To: "Angela Allen" <[email protected]> Cc: "Hugh Kearsey" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] CD roms from OFHS > A vigorous program of rekeying of transcripts into digital form is being > carried out by volunteers, with doubtful characters on the scans being > checked against the original registers at Oxfordshire Record Office. The > county-wide baptism and burial indexes are being compiled in parallel. > > Wendy > Chairman, Oxfordshire FHS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Angela, Shawnna & Judy for your advice on the CD roms, it's always good to ask! I take in what you say about the state of some of the original registers! I've just had 2 films out from the LDS and most of the pages were so bad, I suppose they were covered in mould? I couldn't even tell if the records I wanted were on the film. However, considering how old the books are and they were probably just stacked in an old, damp cupboard, we really are lucky to get so much info off them. We've all heard the "horror" stories of how they were sometimes "recycled"! Anyway I just gave up in the end, (spoiled computer brat!) that's when I thought about buying the CDs. I'm sure the few mistakes in the transcripts don't take away from the great resource these good people have given us. My order is in & I'm eagerly awaiting my little parcel. Thanks Ladies Barbara West OZ (where it is actually raining!) > > Hi Barbara > Most OFHS cds are a very useful resource to purchase - much credit due to > the transcribers. > To be able to research from the comfort of home also has many benefits. > > However there are problems with some parish records OFHS have put onto cd > format. > > Some have information missing from the indexes, so as Shawnna suggests - > don't rely on the indexing. > > Some are almost impossible to read at certain points - ie you may be able > to > pick up on 2 letters of a 7 letter surname. > Not very helpful for those that don't know for certain who, what & when > they > are looking for in a parish. > > Wendy Archers opinion is that the scanning of fiche to cd lost resolution. > But having identified a need to resolve this problem on OFHS cd's - > appropriate action to rectify the situation would be discussed by OFHS. > > That was December 2006! > > I haven't heard anything further on those comments - Wendy, Hugh? > > Angela > > > >> Hi List, >> I'm thinking of buying one of the CD roms of parish registers from the >> Oxfordshire Family History Centre & wondered if anyone else had bought >> them. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you so much Judy, they sound like they're just what I need, I thought that is what they'd be but wasn't sure. What a great resource the teams of volunteer transcribers have made available to us! A big thank you to them all!! Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Evans To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] Question about CD roms from OFHS Hi Barbara, I have the OFHS CD's that cover the Banbury area (including the 4 villages you mention) and think they are excellent value for money. They are typed transcripts and each parish has a surname index. Judy Alf & Barbara Rosethorne <[email protected]> wrote: Hi List, I'm thinking of buying one of the CD roms of parish registers from the Oxfordshire Family History Centre & wondered if anyone else had bought them. I couldn't find out what to expect with them on the website. Are they transcribed or the actual images of the pages? I've been through a few films from the LDS and couldn't find the parishes I need (Horley & Hornton). The parishes I'm interested in are Hornton, Horley, Alkerton & Shenington these look like they're on the Banbury No.3 CD . I'd love for anyone to give me some feedback on these CDs. Thank you Barbara Sunny West OZ (it should be raining!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara Most OFHS cds are a very useful resource to purchase - much credit due to the transcribers. To be able to research from the comfort of home also has many benefits. However there are problems with some parish records OFHS have put onto cd format. Some have information missing from the indexes, so as Shawnna suggests - don't rely on the indexing. Some are almost impossible to read at certain points - ie you may be able to pick up on 2 letters of a 7 letter surname. Not very helpful for those that don't know for certain who, what & when they are looking for in a parish. Wendy Archers opinion is that the scanning of fiche to cd lost resolution. But having identified a need to resolve this problem on OFHS cd's - appropriate action to rectify the situation would be discussed by OFHS. That was December 2006! I haven't heard anything further on those comments - Wendy, Hugh? Angela > Hi List, > I'm thinking of buying one of the CD roms of parish registers from the > Oxfordshire Family History Centre & wondered if anyone else had bought > them.

Hi List, I'm thinking of buying one of the CD roms of parish registers from the Oxfordshire Family History Centre & wondered if anyone else had bought them. I couldn't find out what to expect with them on the website. Are they transcribed or the actual images of the pages? I've been through a few films from the LDS and couldn't find the parishes I need (Horley & Hornton). The parishes I'm interested in are Hornton, Horley, Alkerton & Shenington these look like they're on the Banbury No.3 CD . I'd love for anyone to give me some feedback on these CDs. Thank you Barbara Sunny West OZ (it should be raining!)

Hi List, I'm thinking of buying one of the CD roms of parish registers from the Oxfordshire Family History Centre & wondered if anyone else had bought them. I couldn't find out what to expect with them on the website. Are they transcribed or the actual images of the pages? I've been through a few films from the LDS and couldn't find the parishes I need (Horley & Hornton). The parishes I'm interested in are Hornton, Horley, Alkerton & Shenington these look like they're on the Banbury No.3 CD . I'd love for anyone to give me some feedback on these CDs. Thank you Barbara Sunny West OZ (it should be raining!)

Hi Barbara, I have the OFHS CD's that cover the Banbury area (including the 4 villages you mention) and think they are excellent value for money. They are typed transcripts and each parish has a surname index. Judy Alf & Barbara Rosethorne <[email protected]> wrote: Hi List, I'm thinking of buying one of the CD roms of parish registers from the Oxfordshire Family History Centre & wondered if anyone else had bought them. I couldn't find out what to expect with them on the website. Are they transcribed or the actual images of the pages? I've been through a few films from the LDS and couldn't find the parishes I need (Horley & Hornton). The parishes I'm interested in are Hornton, Horley, Alkerton & Shenington these look like they're on the Banbury No.3 CD . I'd love for anyone to give me some feedback on these CDs. Thank you Barbara Sunny West OZ (it should be raining!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy and Barbara, I used those materials in their book form at Banbury Library a couple of times when I was in the UK and found them very helpful. But a caution - the transcriptions are not perfect; I found a few errors, in particular, don't rely on the surname indexes; if the name you are looking for is not on the surname index, search your desired village anyway - I came up lucky doing that. All the same, a great resource; what an important job all these family history society folks do for all of us! Cheers, Shawnna Mission, BC Canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judy Evans Sent: July 18, 2007 6:44 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAN] Question about CD roms from OFHS Hi Barbara, I have the OFHS CD's that cover the Banbury area (including the 4 villages you mention) and think they are excellent value for money. They are typed transcripts and each parish has a surname index. Judy Alf & Barbara Rosethorne <[email protected]> wrote: Hi List, I'm thinking of buying one of the CD roms of parish registers from the Oxfordshire Family History Centre & wondered if anyone else had bought them. I couldn't find out what to expect with them on the website. Are they transcribed or the actual images of the pages? I've been through a few films from the LDS and couldn't find the parishes I need (Horley & Hornton). The parishes I'm interested in are Hornton, Horley, Alkerton & Shenington these look like they're on the Banbury No.3 CD . I'd love for anyone to give me some feedback on these CDs. Thank you Barbara Sunny West OZ (it should be raining!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another irrelevant detail about Whitsun. There is a chain of islands in the Oz Barrier Reef called the Whitsundays as they were first sighted (by Captain Cook I presume0 on Whitsunday. And yes, Bank Holidays in the UK are public holidays so called because the banks closed..technically important because it meant that you could not transact business...oh for the days before the internet! Jon Malings County Wexford, Ireland. >From: "Bren" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BAN] Whitsun - SPENCER and FRANKLIN >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:27:51 -0300 > >Thank you Jon...I have included that extra information into the family tree >along with Bill's wonderful information. > >Seems strange to have a name for a holiday.."bank holiday" to my ears...I >guess it means the banks are closed does it? Likely so. > >Sincerely, >Brenda > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jon Malings" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:24 PM >Subject: Re: [BAN] Whitsun - SPENCER and FRANKLIN > > > > Whitsun, or Whit Sunday is the 7th Sunday after Easter. Also known as > > Pentecost. When I was young the Monday after Whit Sunday was a public > > holiday but has been superceded by the fixed date "Spring Bank Holiday" > > in > > UK...well England at least...and in Ireland too, though the Irish >holiday > > is > > a week later than the Engllish one. > > > > Jon Malings > > County Wexford, Ireland > > > >>From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> > >>Reply-To: [email protected] > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >>Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:36:59 -0600 > >> > >>Yes, > >>Mary Ann (the mother), ___ Grant, Mary Lock, & Emma Franklin were >present > >>at > >>Thomas' private baptism. He must have been doing poorly when born. >Thomas > >>got better and was received into church on Whitsunday (whatever holiday >or > >>date this is) 1872. That is what is noted on his entry. 10 years >later??? > >>a > >>year after his sister was baptised (not private, so must have been in > >>church) > >> > >>This is the first time I've seen the names listed. The clerk must have > >>wanted to know who witnessed the baptism for some reason. > >> > >>Bill > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Bren" <[email protected]> > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:40 PM > >>Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >> > >> > >> > Fantastic Bill, just great. Thank you so much for talking the trouble > >> > to > >> > look all of this up. So the two older boys were indeed >Franklins...but > >> > they > >> > were noted as Spencer on later census and so likely their families >have > >> > that > >> > name today. > >> > > >> > This I don't understand: > >> > > >> > 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > >> >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. > >>received > >> >> Whitsunday 1872 > >> > > >> > Are you saying that Thomas Spenceer son of Richard and Mary Ann was > >> > privately baptised in 1862...and that present at the baptism was a > >> > _____ > >> > Grant and the Aunt, Mary Lock, and that Emma Franklin was received on > >> > Whitsunday 1872? Mary Anne had a sister Emma Franklin born abt. 1818. > >> > Does > >> > "received" mean a late baptism or a confirmation or??? > >> > > >> > What a great help, thank you for all that..more than I expected to > >> > receive. > >> > > >> > Sincerely, > >> > Brenda > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:06 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hi Brenda, > >> >> > >> >> 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. > >>Matthew > >> >> baker > >> >> Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d > >> >> Richard > >> >> lab > >> >> > >> >> OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 > >> >> SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > >> >> " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " > >> >> " > >> >> " > >> >> " William Son 14 Ag Lab " > >> >> " > >> >> " > >> >> " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " > >> >> " " > >> >> " Richard Son 4 " " > >> >> " " > >> >> " Charles Son 1 " > >> >> " " > >> >> LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " > >>" > >> >> " > >> >> > >> >> OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 > >> >> SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury > >> >> " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > >> >> LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " >" > >> >> > >> >> bapt; > >> >> 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 > >> >> Jun > >> >> 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 > >> >> Jan > >> >> 1825 > >> >> 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman > >> >> 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman > >> >> 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab > >> >> 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary > >>" > >> >> 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > >> >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. > >>received > >> >> Whitsunday 1872 > >> >> 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab > >> >> > >> >> HTH, > >> >> > >> >> Bill Watson > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Bren" <[email protected]> > >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM > >> >> Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann > >>Franklin > >> >>> married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney > >> >>> (registered > >> >>> Banbury) > >> >>> > >> >>> Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have > >> >>> this > >> >>> Richard or their children on their radar?))) > >> >>> > >> >>> Brenda > >> >>> > >> >>> avast! 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Thank you Jon...I have included that extra information into the family tree along with Bill's wonderful information. Seems strange to have a name for a holiday.."bank holiday" to my ears...I guess it means the banks are closed does it? Likely so. Sincerely, Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Malings" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] Whitsun - SPENCER and FRANKLIN > Whitsun, or Whit Sunday is the 7th Sunday after Easter. Also known as > Pentecost. When I was young the Monday after Whit Sunday was a public > holiday but has been superceded by the fixed date "Spring Bank Holiday" > in > UK...well England at least...and in Ireland too, though the Irish holiday > is > a week later than the Engllish one. > > Jon Malings > County Wexford, Ireland > >>From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >>Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:36:59 -0600 >> >>Yes, >>Mary Ann (the mother), ___ Grant, Mary Lock, & Emma Franklin were present >>at >>Thomas' private baptism. He must have been doing poorly when born. Thomas >>got better and was received into church on Whitsunday (whatever holiday or >>date this is) 1872. That is what is noted on his entry. 10 years later??? >>a >>year after his sister was baptised (not private, so must have been in >>church) >> >>This is the first time I've seen the names listed. The clerk must have >>wanted to know who witnessed the baptism for some reason. >> >>Bill >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Bren" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:40 PM >>Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >> >> >> > Fantastic Bill, just great. Thank you so much for talking the trouble >> > to >> > look all of this up. So the two older boys were indeed Franklins...but >> > they >> > were noted as Spencer on later census and so likely their families have >> > that >> > name today. >> > >> > This I don't understand: >> > >> > 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " >> >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. >>received >> >> Whitsunday 1872 >> > >> > Are you saying that Thomas Spenceer son of Richard and Mary Ann was >> > privately baptised in 1862...and that present at the baptism was a >> > _____ >> > Grant and the Aunt, Mary Lock, and that Emma Franklin was received on >> > Whitsunday 1872? Mary Anne had a sister Emma Franklin born abt. 1818. >> > Does >> > "received" mean a late baptism or a confirmation or??? >> > >> > What a great help, thank you for all that..more than I expected to >> > receive. >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > Brenda >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:06 PM >> > Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >> > >> > >> >> Hi Brenda, >> >> >> >> 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. >>Matthew >> >> baker >> >> Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d >> >> Richard >> >> lab >> >> >> >> OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 >> >> SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney >> >> " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " >> >> " >> >> " >> >> " William Son 14 Ag Lab " >> >> " >> >> " >> >> " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " >> >> " " >> >> " Richard Son 4 " " >> >> " " >> >> " Charles Son 1 " >> >> " " >> >> LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " >>" >> >> " >> >> >> >> OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 >> >> SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury >> >> " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney >> >> LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " " >> >> >> >> bapt; >> >> 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 >> >> Jun >> >> 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 >> >> Jan >> >> 1825 >> >> 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman >> >> 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman >> >> 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab >> >> 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary >>" >> >> 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " >> >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. >>received >> >> Whitsunday 1872 >> >> 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab >> >> >> >> HTH, >> >> >> >> Bill Watson >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Bren" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM >> >> Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann >>Franklin >> >>> married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney >> >>> (registered >> >>> Banbury) >> >>> >> >>> Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have >> >>> this >> >>> Richard or their children on their radar?))) >> >>> >> >>> Brenda >> >>> >> >>> avast! 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Whitsun, or Whit Sunday is the 7th Sunday after Easter. Also known as Pentecost. When I was young the Monday after Whit Sunday was a public holiday but has been superceded by the fixed date "Spring Bank Holiday" in UK...well England at least...and in Ireland too, though the Irish holiday is a week later than the Engllish one. Jon Malings County Wexford, Ireland >From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:36:59 -0600 > >Yes, >Mary Ann (the mother), ___ Grant, Mary Lock, & Emma Franklin were present >at >Thomas' private baptism. He must have been doing poorly when born. Thomas >got better and was received into church on Whitsunday (whatever holiday or >date this is) 1872. That is what is noted on his entry. 10 years later??? a >year after his sister was baptised (not private, so must have been in >church) > >This is the first time I've seen the names listed. The clerk must have >wanted to know who witnessed the baptism for some reason. > >Bill > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bren" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:40 PM >Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > > > > Fantastic Bill, just great. Thank you so much for talking the trouble to > > look all of this up. So the two older boys were indeed Franklins...but > > they > > were noted as Spencer on later census and so likely their families have > > that > > name today. > > > > This I don't understand: > > > > 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. >received > >> Whitsunday 1872 > > > > Are you saying that Thomas Spenceer son of Richard and Mary Ann was > > privately baptised in 1862...and that present at the baptism was a _____ > > Grant and the Aunt, Mary Lock, and that Emma Franklin was received on > > Whitsunday 1872? Mary Anne had a sister Emma Franklin born abt. 1818. > > Does > > "received" mean a late baptism or a confirmation or??? > > > > What a great help, thank you for all that..more than I expected to > > receive. > > > > Sincerely, > > Brenda > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:06 PM > > Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > > > > > >> Hi Brenda, > >> > >> 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. >Matthew > >> baker > >> Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d > >> Richard > >> lab > >> > >> OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 > >> SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > >> " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " > >> " > >> " > >> " William Son 14 Ag Lab " > >> " > >> " > >> " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " > >> " " > >> " Richard Son 4 " " > >> " " > >> " Charles Son 1 " > >> " " > >> LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " >" > >> " > >> > >> OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 > >> SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury > >> " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > >> LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " " > >> > >> bapt; > >> 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 Jun > >> 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 Jan > >> 1825 > >> 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman > >> 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman > >> 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab > >> 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary >" > >> 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. >received > >> Whitsunday 1872 > >> 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab > >> > >> HTH, > >> > >> Bill Watson > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Bren" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM > >> Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > >> > >> > >>> Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann >Franklin > >>> married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney (registered > >>> Banbury) > >>> > >>> Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have this > >>> Richard or their children on their radar?))) > >>> > >>> Brenda > >>> > >>> avast! 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Thank you Jon, I was hoping that someone would explain "Whitsun"! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Malings" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] Whitsun - SPENCER and FRANKLIN > Whitsun, or Whit Sunday is the 7th Sunday after Easter. Also known as > Pentecost. When I was young the Monday after Whit Sunday was a public > holiday but has been superceded by the fixed date "Spring Bank Holiday" > in > UK...well England at least...and in Ireland too, though the Irish holiday > is > a week later than the Engllish one. > > Jon Malings > County Wexford, Ireland

Does any body know the quickest way to retrieve past detail entered into Banbury Mailing List. Brett Archer

Hi Brett To search the archives of all lists or any specific list try:- http://lists.rootsweb.com/ Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Does any body know the quickest way to retrieve past detail entered into > Banbury Mailing List. > Brett Archer

Brett, Go to the Banbury Rootsweb archive at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-BANBURY-AREA.html where you can either browse or search Neil ----- Original Message ---- From: brett <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, 16 July, 2007 9:38:25 AM Subject: [BAN] Re; Computer Crash Retrieval of Past Detail. Does any body know the quickest way to retrieve past detail entered into Banbury Mailing List. Brett Archer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ British History Online ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fantastic Bill, just great. Thank you so much for talking the trouble to look all of this up. So the two older boys were indeed Franklins...but they were noted as Spencer on later census and so likely their families have that name today. This I don't understand: 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. received > Whitsunday 1872 Are you saying that Thomas Spenceer son of Richard and Mary Ann was privately baptised in 1862...and that present at the baptism was a _____ Grant and the Aunt, Mary Lock, and that Emma Franklin was received on Whitsunday 1872? Mary Anne had a sister Emma Franklin born abt. 1818. Does "received" mean a late baptism or a confirmation or??? What a great help, thank you for all that..more than I expected to receive. Sincerely, Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > Hi Brenda, > > 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. Matthew > baker > Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d > Richard > lab > > OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 > SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " > " > " > " William Son 14 Ag Lab " > " > " > " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " > " " > " Richard Son 4 " " > " " > " Charles Son 1 " > " " > LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " " > " > > OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 > SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury > " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " " > > bapt; > 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 Jun > 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 Jan > 1825 > 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman > 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman > 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab > 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary " > 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. received > Whitsunday 1872 > 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab > > HTH, > > Bill Watson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bren" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM > Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > > >> Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann Franklin >> married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney (registered >> Banbury) >> >> Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have this >> Richard or their children on their radar?))) >> >> Brenda >> >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS) >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ >> British History Online >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Mary Ann (the mother), ___ Grant, Mary Lock, & Emma Franklin were present at Thomas' private baptism. He must have been doing poorly when born. Thomas got better and was received into church on Whitsunday (whatever holiday or date this is) 1872. That is what is noted on his entry. 10 years later??? a year after his sister was baptised (not private, so must have been in church) This is the first time I've seen the names listed. The clerk must have wanted to know who witnessed the baptism for some reason. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > Fantastic Bill, just great. Thank you so much for talking the trouble to > look all of this up. So the two older boys were indeed Franklins...but > they > were noted as Spencer on later census and so likely their families have > that > name today. > > This I don't understand: > > 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. received >> Whitsunday 1872 > > Are you saying that Thomas Spenceer son of Richard and Mary Ann was > privately baptised in 1862...and that present at the baptism was a _____ > Grant and the Aunt, Mary Lock, and that Emma Franklin was received on > Whitsunday 1872? Mary Anne had a sister Emma Franklin born abt. 1818. > Does > "received" mean a late baptism or a confirmation or??? > > What a great help, thank you for all that..more than I expected to > receive. > > Sincerely, > Brenda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > > >> Hi Brenda, >> >> 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. Matthew >> baker >> Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d >> Richard >> lab >> >> OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 >> SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney >> " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " >> " >> " >> " William Son 14 Ag Lab " >> " >> " >> " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " >> " " >> " Richard Son 4 " " >> " " >> " Charles Son 1 " >> " " >> LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " " >> " >> >> OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 >> SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury >> " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney >> LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " " >> >> bapt; >> 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 Jun >> 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 Jan >> 1825 >> 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman >> 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman >> 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab >> 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary " >> 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " >> privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. received >> Whitsunday 1872 >> 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab >> >> HTH, >> >> Bill Watson >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bren" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM >> Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN >> >> >>> Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann Franklin >>> married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney (registered >>> Banbury) >>> >>> Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have this >>> Richard or their children on their radar?))) >>> >>> Brenda >>> >>> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >>> Virus Database (VPS) >>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. >>> http://www.avast.com >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ >>> British History Online >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ >> British History Online >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I now understand Bill...it means..present at the private baptism of Thomas, son of Richard and Mary Ann, were Mary Ann the mother, unknown Grant, Mary Lock the auntie and Emma Franklin sister to Mary Ann and also auntie to little boy Thomas. He was received on Whitsunday 1872. Sorry for not understanding at first. Isn't that unusual, to name the people present at the baptism? I think so. So thank you again Bill, I really, really appreciate your looking for this and sending it along. Many kind regards, Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > Hi Brenda, > > 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. Matthew > baker > Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d > Richard > lab > > OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 > SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " > " > " > " William Son 14 Ag Lab " > " > " > " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " > " " > " Richard Son 4 " " > " " > " Charles Son 1 " > " " > LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " " > " > > OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 > SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury > " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney > LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " " > > bapt; > 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 Jun > 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 Jan > 1825 > 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman > 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman > 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab > 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary " > 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " > privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. received > Whitsunday 1872 > 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab > > HTH, > > Bill Watson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bren" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM > Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > > >> Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann Franklin >> married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney (registered >> Banbury) >> >> Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have this >> Richard or their children on their radar?))) >> >> Brenda >> >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS) >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ >> British History Online >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Brenda, 25 May 1856 Richard SPENCER full age bach lab Middleton Cheney s. Matthew baker Mary AnnFRANKLIN full age spin Middleton Cheney d Richard lab OFHS 1861 Middleton Cheney RG9/919 folio 38 SPENCER Richard Head Mar 34 Railway Lab NTH Middleton Cheney " Mary A Wife Mar 38 " " " " William Son 14 Ag Lab " " " " Samuel Son 7 Scholar " " " " Richard Son 4 " " " " " Charles Son 1 " " " LOCK Mary Aunt Un 70 " " " OFHS 1851 Middleton Cheney HO107/1734 folio 253 SPENCER Matthew HD w 73 Pauper OXF Adderbury " Richard SO u 30 Ag Lab NTH Middleton Cheney LOCK Mary LG u 59 Pauper " " " bapt; 17 Mar 1821 SPENCER Richard s Matthew & Bety baker priv. - rec'd 12 Jun 17 Feb 1824 FRANKLIN Mary Anne d Richard & Mary lab " " 2 Jan 1825 13 Sep 1846 " William s Mary single woman 24 Dec 1854 " Samuel s Mary Anne single woman 28 Sep 1856 SPENCER Richard s Richard & Mary Ann lab 30 Oct 1859 " Charles s " Mary " 1 Oct 1862 " Thomas s " Mary Anne " privately. present - mother, ? GRANT, Mary LOCK, Emma FRANKLIN. received Whitsunday 1872 30 Oct 1870 SPENCER Charlotte d Richard & Mary railway lab HTH, Bill Watson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [BAN] SPENCER and FRANKLIN > Hi all. Just discovered a new branch in the family....Mary Ann Franklin > married Richard Spencer June quarter 1856 Middleton Cheney (registered > Banbury) > > Is anyone researching Spencers in this area and would anyone have this > Richard or their children on their radar?))) > > Brenda > > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS) > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > British History Online > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message