I managed to get into the committee rooms at the Town Hall today, camera in hand! I have found out that they only have pictures of the Mayors going back to the very late 19thC. A lot have no names/dates on them. So: No photo of Richard Baughen No photo of Henry Flowers Although both are recorded on the roll of honour. I understood that the 'Flowers' was called Hubert, but it is definately Henry on the Roll. Maybe he had dual names like me! There are lots of mentions of 'Edmunds'. Not sure if there are any photos, but it is a possibility. I have mentioned that they should all be available on a website. If I find time, I may make that a project. But some of the pictures are very high up, so I'll need a ladder! I hope this helps a few of you on the list. Ian 'Ralph' Huckin ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

With the list administrator's agreement, I thought fellow listers might like to know that Sulgrave Manor are opening their archive - 200+ mss from 1549 -1900, all indexed and transcribed - for family and local historians on 17th November. For details see the website, www.sulgravemanor.org.uk, in the Events Diary in the Visitor Info section. Wendy Barnes

Hi Hugh, Good timing! I was just looking last night to figure out where I could find this info, with little luck. I did stumble across a few pictures of the Littlemore Hospital last night, and quite a few of Banbury from the late 1800's and early 1900's at: http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/ . I am sure that everyone on this list already knows of this site, but I need to try and contribute something. Much appreciated Dave Charlot The Littlemore Hospital Deaths and Discharges have been published by Oxfordshire Family History Society. See: www.ofhs.org.uk William CHARLOTTE entered Littlemore Hospital on 1st September 1846 and died there on 21st July 1854 of Fever & pleuro-pneumonia after epilepsy aged 68 Hugh Kearsey

Dave, The Littlemore Hospital Deaths and Discharges have been published by Oxfordshire Family History Society. See: www.ofhs.org.uk William CHARLOTTE entered Littlemore Hospital on 1st September 1846 and died there on 21st July 1854 of Fever & pleuro-pneumonia after epilepsy aged 68 Hugh Kearsey

Hi Angela, Yes, the information Bill and you have provided the last couple of days have erased any doubt in my mind. Not to mention a few more names to research. Thank you for the tidbit on the burial of Wm CHARLOT (the son). Keep up the great work on the boards! Thanks Dave Charlot Dave, Bill found for you a Thomas CHARLOT & Emma GARRETT marrying Sep Qtr 1850 St Pancras These baptisms seem to confirm you have the right George Frederick. Parish regs of St Mary Banbury (viewed at Banbury library) 20/10/1851 CHARLOTE, Wm Henry so Thomas & Emma, Fish St, butcher 3/7/1853 CHARLOT, George Frederick, so Thomas & Emma, Broad St, butcher 18/11/1855 CHARLOT, Richard Thomas, so Thomas & Emma, Cherwell St, butcher 20/4/1859 CHARLOTTE, Emma Garrett, do Thomas & Emma, Castle St West, butcher Noted a couple of burials also 2/10/1840 Wm CHARLOT, 24 yrs, Calthorpe Lane 2/12/1873 Elizabeth CHARLOTTE, 69 yrs, Soth Bar Angela co admin Banbury

Hi Christine, So glad you enjoyed the book, and photos you hadn't seen before. The house you lived in up Hill Cottages, was the same house my GGGrandfather and Aunt Sarah, lived in, it is the same one that Ada (my gran) & Mabel Wrighton tried to steal the fruit from, if you remember that story in the book. Thanks for letting me know your thoughts, you can't help but wonder if people get pleasure from what you written. Sounds like you were one of the lucky ones, that didn't get into trouble for playing up 'Hill Trees', you were one of the few that didn't. Yours, Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Hartwell" <[email protected]> To: "Banbury List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: [BAN] Aynhoe Village Life by Dawn Griffis > Dawn > > I have read your book, congratulations. I had to buy a 2nd copy to send > to my mother - she was very excited when I told her there were photographs > of her at school in the book, also photos of my grandmother I had seen > those photographs. We have never seen photos of her that young, the > youngest one we have of her she was about 16. > > I was particularly interested in the piece about Hill trees being a > dangerous place to play, I remember spending many happy hours hiding up > there with friends. Our house was at the top of the hill above the trees. > And I thought it was a 'secret' place that no one knew about! Oh well. > > Christine Hartwell > Oregon USA > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dave, Bill found for you a Thomas CHARLOT & Emma GARRETT marrying Sep Qtr 1850 St Pancras These baptisms seem to confirm you have the right George Frederick. Parish regs of St Mary Banbury (viewed at Banbury library) 20/10/1851 CHARLOTE, Wm Henry so Thomas & Emma, Fish St, butcher 3/7/1853 CHARLOT, George Frederick, so Thomas & Emma, Broad St, butcher 18/11/1855 CHARLOT, Richard Thomas, so Thomas & Emma, Cherwell St, butcher 20/4/1859 CHARLOTTE, Emma Garrett, do Thomas & Emma, Castle St West, butcher Noted a couple of burials also 2/10/1840 Wm CHARLOT, 24 yrs, Calthorpe Lane 2/12/1873 Elizabeth CHARLOTTE, 69 yrs, Soth Bar Angela co admin Banbury I am trying to determine the date of marriage of Thomas > CHARLOT (b: Abt 1816 in Neithrop, d: 3 Apr 1860 in Banbury) and Emma > GARRETT > (b: Abt 1820 in Banbury, d: ?). > > 2. My g g grandfather was George Frederick CHARLOT (b: May 1853 in > Banbury, > d: June 1946 in Washington, US). I have yet to confirm for certain that > the > George F CHARLOT from Banbury is in fact my g g grandfather

Dawn I have read your book, congratulations. I had to buy a 2nd copy to send to my mother - she was very excited when I told her there were photographs of her at school in the book, also photos of my grandmother I had seen those photographs. We have never seen photos of her that young, the youngest one we have of her she was about 16. I was particularly interested in the piece about Hill trees being a dangerous place to play, I remember spending many happy hours hiding up there with friends. Our house was at the top of the hill above the trees. And I thought it was a 'secret' place that no one knew about! Oh well. Christine Hartwell Oregon USA

Tony, Please ignore my previous message - a senior moment!! I transposed 1678 to 1768!! Janet -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 19037 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Tony, This is a bit early for your William's marriage but could be an earlier ancestor of yours: 31 July 1743 at Drayton, Oxon William BORTON of Gt Boughton married Elizabeth CHERRY by licence Good luck with the rest of your research. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Borton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: [BAN] The Bortons (Bourtons) of Cropredy & Great Bourton > Hi Fellow Members, > > My name is Tony Borton and I have been working on my family tree for a > couple of years now. Living in Tasmania means that all of my information > has been obtained via the web, from some extremely helpful genealogy > devotees who have access to historical information. > > I have managed trace my Borton (sometimes shown as Bourton) ancestry > back from the present day to around 1679, which is where I am at this > point. My last known ancestor was a William Borton who was born/baptised > on 26th Jan 1679/80 listed as the first child of William and Sarah of > Great Bourton. I have names and dates of other siblings as well as all the > subsequent generations from that point, which I can provide if any person > in the group requires them. > > Other surnames that are connected by marriage include Osborne, Kimbel, > Paine, Fox and Lovett. > > I would love to get more information on William and Sarah, such as a > wedding date (probably around 1678) what Sarah's maiden name was and any > details of their parentage so that I can continue to follow my line. > > Any information or advise would be gratefully received. > > Regards, > > Tony Borton (Launceston, Tasmania) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/985 - Release Date: 02/09/2007 > 16:32 > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 19037 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi Dave, To go with all Bill's info below - is this William & Anne's marriage? Glocs marriage index has ............. 18/11/1813 @ Todenham William CHARLOT & Anne WYATT, by lic. Angela co admin Banbury The OFHS Banbury PR's: bapt; 25 May 1814 CHARLOT Thomas s. of William & Anne, Calthrop Lane, butcher 30 Jul 1816 " William s " " " " " 11 Jul 1819 " Richard s " " " " " 25 May 1821 " Ann d " " " " " 1 Mar 1820 GARRETT Emma d William & Mary, West St. carpenter marr; 1 Jan 1815 GARRETT William, bach, carpenter BRAIN Mary, spin, botp lic. wit: Mary Ann CLARKE, Jno. GARRETT botp = both of this parish 1841 Census shows William & Ann CHARLOT were not born in OXF. 1851Census shows Ann as married with no sign of William and born in Toddingham GLS. FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ has this marriage; Qtr District Vol Page CHARLOT Thomas Sep 1850 St. Pancras 1 395 GARRETT Emma with this reference numbers, you can send for the marriage certificate for about £ 7. The above website has the info as to where to send. St. Pancras is in London. Also, no sign of William & Ann CHARLOT's marriage in OFHS Oxfordshire Marriage Index 1538 - 1837. They may have married in GLS. HTH, Bill Watson

Hi Angela, Thank you for the info. It is very possible, the timeframe is right and I do have Anne being born in Todenham. I didn't have a maiden name for Anne before. I will add that to the research pile. Hope that doesn't mean that I am already related to my girlfriend! She is going to love that. Thanks again Dave Charlot Hi Dave, To go with all Bill's info below - is this William & Anne's marriage? Glocs marriage index has ............. 18/11/1813 @ Todenham William CHARLOT & Anne WYATT, by lic. Angela co admin Banbury The OFHS Banbury PR's: bapt; 25 May 1814 CHARLOT Thomas s. of William & Anne, Calthrop Lane, butcher 30 Jul 1816 " William s " " " " " 11 Jul 1819 " Richard s " " " " " 25 May 1821 " Ann d " " " " " 1 Mar 1820 GARRETT Emma d William & Mary, West St. carpenter marr; 1 Jan 1815 GARRETT William, bach, carpenter BRAIN Mary, spin, botp lic. wit: Mary Ann CLARKE, Jno. GARRETT botp = both of this parish 1841 Census shows William & Ann CHARLOT were not born in OXF. 1851Census shows Ann as married with no sign of William and born in Toddingham GLS. FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ has this marriage; Qtr District Vol Page CHARLOT Thomas Sep 1850 St. Pancras 1 395 GARRETT Emma with this reference numbers, you can send for the marriage certificate for about £ 7. The above website has the info as to where to send. St. Pancras is in London. Also, no sign of William & Ann CHARLOT's marriage in OFHS Oxfordshire Marriage Index 1538 - 1837. They may have married in GLS. HTH, Bill Watson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, Thank you very much. That is helpful. It also clears a few things up. I found that William CHARLOT was in an Asylum in Littlemore in the 1851 census, and I would assume back then that once you are in those doors there is little if any chance of getting back out. The marriage of GARRETT William and BRAIN Mary makes more sense than what I had. Although could you clarify these abbreviations for me please: Bach, = Bachelor ? Spin, = ? Also if you could be so kind as to forward me Emma's siblings baptisms when the weather permits, that would be great. Thanks again Dave Charlot The OFHS Banbury PR's: bapt; 25 May 1814 CHARLOT Thomas s. of William & Anne, Calthrop Lane, butcher 30 Jul 1816 " William s " " " " " 11 Jul 1819 " Richard s " " " " " 25 May 1821 " Ann d " " " " " 1 Mar 1820 GARRETT Emma d William & Mary, West St. carpenter marr; 1 Jan 1815 GARRETT William, bach, carpenter BRAIN Mary, spin, botp lic. wit: Mary Ann CLARKE, Jno. GARRETT botp = both of this parish 1841 Census shows William & Ann CHARLOT were not born in OXF. 1851Census shows Ann as married with no sign of William and born in Toddingham GLS. FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ has this marriage; Qtr District Vol Page CHARLOT Thomas Sep 1850 St. Pancras 1 395 GARRETT Emma with this reference numbers, you can send for the marriage certificate for about £ 7. The above website has the info as to where to send. St. Pancras is in London. Also, no sign of William & Ann CHARLOT's marriage in OFHS Oxfordshire Marriage Index 1538 - 1837. They may have married in GLS. HTH, Bill Watson West Jordan, Utah Let me know if you would like Emma's siblings baptisms. Thunder & lightening is happening now & computer ahs gone down once, so need to shut down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Charlot" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: [BAN] The CHARLOT family > Hi all, > > > > I just came across your list recently and I am new to the genealogy hobby > (obsession) as well, so please bear with me. If I am going off track for > this list, please feel free to harass me ;) > > > > 1. While I might be jumping the gun on this question (based on my second > question below). I am trying to determine the date of marriage of Thomas > CHARLOT (b: Abt 1816 in Neithrop, d: 3 Apr 1860 in Banbury) and Emma > GARRETT > (b: Abt 1820 in Banbury, d: ?). The 1841 Census shows Thomas living with > his > parents and the 1851 Census shows Thomas living with Emma's parents and > the > census states "Son-in-law". So I would assume the marriage took place > between 1841-1851 in Banbury. I am not sure how to go about searching for > marriage records in Banbury? > > > > 2. My g g grandfather was George Frederick CHARLOT (b: May 1853 in > Banbury, > d: June 1946 in Washington, US). I have yet to confirm for certain that > the > George F CHARLOT from Banbury is in fact my g g grandfather, although the > timelines, and family names do seem to add up. I have found census data > from > Banbury up to 1861 and then nothing until the 1889 Census in Washington, > US. > In various census data from the US he always states his parents as being > from England. But his age of immigration does vary, which based on his age > would put his immigration between 1863 - 1879. I believe that William > Henry > CHARLOT (George's brother) came to the US at the same time. I have > searched > ancestory.com for passenger lists, and visited the local city library in > the > US, with no luck on tracking down an immigration date. Sorry I am starting > to ramble.. My question is: Does anyone have any thoughts as to were I > could > look on the UK side to find information on passenger lists leaving the UK > for the US or Canada between 1860-1880? > > > > Any help would be much appreciated. Sorry for the rambling that second > question has been driving me nuts. > > > > Thank you > > Dave Charlot > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dave, The OFHS Banbury PR's: bapt; 25 May 1814 CHARLOT Thomas s. of William & Anne, Calthrop Lane, butcher 30 Jul 1816 " William s " " " " " 11 Jul 1819 " Richard s " " " " " 25 May 1821 " Ann d " " " " " 1 Mar 1820 GARRETT Emma d William & Mary, West St. carpenter marr; 1 Jan 1815 GARRETT William, bach, carpenter BRAIN Mary, spin, botp lic. wit: Mary Ann CLARKE, Jno. GARRETT botp = both of this parish 1841 Census shows William & Ann CHARLOT were not born in OXF. 1851Census shows Ann as married with no sign of William and born in Toddingham GLS. FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ has this marriage; Qtr District Vol Page CHARLOT Thomas Sep 1850 St. Pancras 1 395 GARRETT Emma with this reference numbers, you can send for the marriage certificate for about £ 7. The above website has the info as to where to send. St. Pancras is in London. Also, no sign of William & Ann CHARLOT's marriage in OFHS Oxfordshire Marriage Index 1538 - 1837. They may have married in GLS. HTH, Bill Watson West Jordan, Utah Let me know if you would like Emma's siblings baptisms. Thunder & lightening is happening now & computer ahs gone down once, so need to shut down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Charlot" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: [BAN] The CHARLOT family > Hi all, > > > > I just came across your list recently and I am new to the genealogy hobby > (obsession) as well, so please bear with me. If I am going off track for > this list, please feel free to harass me ;) > > > > 1. While I might be jumping the gun on this question (based on my second > question below). I am trying to determine the date of marriage of Thomas > CHARLOT (b: Abt 1816 in Neithrop, d: 3 Apr 1860 in Banbury) and Emma > GARRETT > (b: Abt 1820 in Banbury, d: ?). The 1841 Census shows Thomas living with > his > parents and the 1851 Census shows Thomas living with Emma's parents and > the > census states "Son-in-law". So I would assume the marriage took place > between 1841-1851 in Banbury. I am not sure how to go about searching for > marriage records in Banbury? > > > > 2. My g g grandfather was George Frederick CHARLOT (b: May 1853 in > Banbury, > d: June 1946 in Washington, US). I have yet to confirm for certain that > the > George F CHARLOT from Banbury is in fact my g g grandfather, although the > timelines, and family names do seem to add up. I have found census data > from > Banbury up to 1861 and then nothing until the 1889 Census in Washington, > US. > In various census data from the US he always states his parents as being > from England. But his age of immigration does vary, which based on his age > would put his immigration between 1863 - 1879. I believe that William > Henry > CHARLOT (George's brother) came to the US at the same time. I have > searched > ancestory.com for passenger lists, and visited the local city library in > the > US, with no luck on tracking down an immigration date. Sorry I am starting > to ramble.. My question is: Does anyone have any thoughts as to were I > could > look on the UK side to find information on passenger lists leaving the UK > for the US or Canada between 1860-1880? > > > > Any help would be much appreciated. Sorry for the rambling that second > question has been driving me nuts. > > > > Thank you > > Dave Charlot > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fellow Members, My name is Tony Borton and I have been working on my family tree for a couple of years now. Living in Tasmania means that all of my information has been obtained via the web, from some extremely helpful genealogy devotees who have access to historical information. I have managed trace my Borton (sometimes shown as Bourton) ancestry back from the present day to around 1679, which is where I am at this point. My last known ancestor was a William Borton who was born/baptised on 26th Jan 1679/80 listed as the first child of William and Sarah of Great Bourton. I have names and dates of other siblings as well as all the subsequent generations from that point, which I can provide if any person in the group requires them. Other surnames that are connected by marriage include Osborne, Kimbel, Paine, Fox and Lovett. I would love to get more information on William and Sarah, such as a wedding date (probably around 1678) what Sarah's maiden name was and any details of their parentage so that I can continue to follow my line. Any information or advise would be gratefully received. Regards, Tony Borton (Launceston, Tasmania)

Hi all, I just came across your list recently and I am new to the genealogy hobby (obsession) as well, so please bear with me. If I am going off track for this list, please feel free to harass me ;) 1. While I might be jumping the gun on this question (based on my second question below). I am trying to determine the date of marriage of Thomas CHARLOT (b: Abt 1816 in Neithrop, d: 3 Apr 1860 in Banbury) and Emma GARRETT (b: Abt 1820 in Banbury, d: ?). The 1841 Census shows Thomas living with his parents and the 1851 Census shows Thomas living with Emma's parents and the census states "Son-in-law". So I would assume the marriage took place between 1841-1851 in Banbury. I am not sure how to go about searching for marriage records in Banbury? 2. My g g grandfather was George Frederick CHARLOT (b: May 1853 in Banbury, d: June 1946 in Washington, US). I have yet to confirm for certain that the George F CHARLOT from Banbury is in fact my g g grandfather, although the timelines, and family names do seem to add up. I have found census data from Banbury up to 1861 and then nothing until the 1889 Census in Washington, US. In various census data from the US he always states his parents as being from England. But his age of immigration does vary, which based on his age would put his immigration between 1863 - 1879. I believe that William Henry CHARLOT (George's brother) came to the US at the same time. I have searched ancestory.com for passenger lists, and visited the local city library in the US, with no luck on tracking down an immigration date. Sorry I am starting to ramble.. My question is: Does anyone have any thoughts as to were I could look on the UK side to find information on passenger lists leaving the UK for the US or Canada between 1860-1880? Any help would be much appreciated. Sorry for the rambling that second question has been driving me nuts. Thank you Dave Charlot

Hi Tony, The OFHS Oxfordshire Marriage Index 1538 - 1837 doesn't list a marriage for William BORTON/variants & Sarah ? about 1678. This index is supposed to be amde from all surviving marriage records for OXF. They were probably married in NTH or WAR as Gt. Bourton is very close to these boarders. I don't have access to these PR's to check further. There are BORTON baptisms in Cropredy (Gt. Bourton was in Cropredy Parish at this time period) prior to 1678. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Bill Watson West Jordan, Utah (former Tasmanian) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Borton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:05 AM Subject: [BAN] The Bortons (Bourtons) of Cropredy & Great Bourton > Hi Fellow Members, > > My name is Tony Borton and I have been working on my family tree for a > couple of years now. Living in Tasmania means that all of my information > has been obtained via the web, from some extremely helpful genealogy > devotees who have access to historical information. > > I have managed trace my Borton (sometimes shown as Bourton) ancestry > back from the present day to around 1679, which is where I am at this > point. My last known ancestor was a William Borton who was born/baptised > on 26th Jan 1679/80 listed as the first child of William and Sarah of > Great Bourton. I have names and dates of other siblings as well as all the > subsequent generations from that point, which I can provide if any person > in the group requires them. > > Other surnames that are connected by marriage include Osborne, Kimbel, > Paine, Fox and Lovett. > > I would love to get more information on William and Sarah, such as a > wedding date (probably around 1678) what Sarah's maiden name was and any > details of their parentage so that I can continue to follow my line. > > Any information or advise would be gratefully received. > > Regards, > > Tony Borton (Launceston, Tasmania) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hubert the english system is/was not as you describe. >From 1837 England has had a civil registration system for births/deaths/marriages. This is organised on a registration district basis, not a county basis. With regard to marriage, since 1837 it has not been necessary to get married in a church. The alternative was to have a civil ceremony. If you got married in church you had two options a) By Banns. The normal option. The local church would announce the planned marriage for three weeks running before the service giving people a chance to object. There would also be an entry in a Banns book. Theoretically, if the couple came from different parishes then the Banns should have been called in both parish churches. b) By licence. I've never looked in detail at this except to know that it cost more money and was more private in that the planned marriage was not broadcast in the way the Banns marriage was. I think you had to have lived in the parish for longer if you were marrying by licence. Licence examples I have are of widows and widowers remarrying and under-age people marrying without parental consent (hence not wanting anyone to know about the illegal marriage). Both these forms of marriage were totally handled by the church. The church would pass details of the marriage to the civil registrar after it had occurred. It follows then that all marriages, religious and civil were registered by the civil registration officer although there is some confusion as to wether divorced women were registered in their maiden name or (former) married name. I don't think there is/was a civil registration system for divorces. Check out the FREEBMD website for most UK civil registration listings 1837-1920. If you can track down the civil registration you can order the certificate by post for about £8 (16 dollars). Jon Malings County Wexford, Ireland > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:34:34 -0400> Subject: [BAN] INFO REQUEST> > researching marriage .years 1887 - 1889 ,would the couple need to get> marriage license then proceed to marry at church or chapel? did the county issue> license .also where would divorce be registered.> > Hubert USA> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated.> Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at> http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

researching marriage .years 1887 - 1889 ,would the couple need to get marriage license then proceed to marry at church or chapel? did the county issue license .also where would divorce be registered. Hubert USA

Mention of a ''''miniture cooking range up in the gallery''' would most definitly be a '''Biscuit Oven'' very '''collectable'', I might add. Brett [Oz\ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:31 AM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [BAN] POTTINGER, JAMES, WALTER and many others in Adderbury > Sorry I meant they are very small only maybe just nine inches pointed at > the > top some are stone but most metal some are still readable they were not > supposed to have anything very grand although the last Quaker to be buried > was > Miss Buck and she had a normal gravestone. They only hold one meeting a > year in > the meeting house the gallery is not safe but some of the benches are > there. > There was a miniture cooking range up in the gallery as far as I know it > is > still there but cannot be seen through the windows but it is possible to > see > the downstairs through the windows. Rhoda > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >