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    1. Re: [BAN] ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 207
    2. Thank you Ian , I have tried Wheatley to no avail .The previous census has no birth place and his birth date changes from 1786 -1791. Bit of an elusive chap ....Thanks for your help , back to hair pulling . Good luck to all those researching. Regards ??? Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 8.05am Subject: ENG-BANBURY-AREA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 207 **************************************** If you are going to reply to one of these digest messages, please quote only the specific message to which you are replying, and remove the rest of the digest. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it matches the subject of the message to which you are replying. ~ Thank you. **************************************** Today's Topics: 1. Help PLease. ([email protected]) 2. Re: Help PLease. ([email protected]) 3. Re: The whys and wherefores! ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:49:19 -0400 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAN] Help PLease. To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My only suggestion is 'Wheatley' near Oxford. Given the recent topic about haircuts, pulling out of the hair, at the roots, seems appropriate! But, a word of caution, you could end up like me! Yours, Ian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 1.42pm Subject: [BAN] Help PLease. Hi Group , You have kindly helped me in the past with "Woodward" family from Hook Norton area .I would like to?ask if someone?can help solve the place of birth for the below relative .I can not get any further back and cannot find other links ..Thank you in advance ..Would really appreciate some help as getting bald spots where pulling hair out and not very fashionable . Regards Sue ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Census Parish ?????????????????????????Wife????????????????????? Born ?William Woodward Hannah abt 1786 Sweatley, Oxfordshire, England Head Snowshill Gloucestershire ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

    10/02/2007 12:30:13
    1. Re: [BAN] The whys and wherefores!
    2. Sadly, I feel we are gradually reverting to illiteracy! the number of e-mails and letters i get with no punctuation capitalisation and ridled with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors?i wunder weather it is me what is doing it wrongly and i am sure that many of you have experienced a similar decline in standards to I blame it, in part, on the use of text messaging, as well as falling standards in schools. But, my question is: How do these people get job interviews, when they are obviously not filling in the application forms themselves, or writing their own CV's? Someone said to me the other day: "Does it matter, as long as you can read it?" Yes, It bolody does!! I am pretty good at decyphering e-mails, to make them read as they are meant, but should I have to spend an extra 2 minutes, reading each and every one, just to make sense of them, when a little forethought would eliminate that? Thank goodness for the delete key! OK. Soapbox put away now! Ian -----Original Message----- From: pollyp <[email protected]> To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11.57am Subject: [BAN] The whys and wherefores! Dear Listers, Have you ever returned to information that you are familiar with, to have a flash of illumination and see it with new eyes? This happened to me this week, and I feel that I have gained some fresh insight into this area. I had been looking into the earlier history of my PARRITT family and to my bemusement had found the name spelt every which way; differing within siblings of the same family, or in various documents naming the same person. All the vowels had a turn and the Rs and Ts could be single or double. Even my grandfather was PARROTT at his baptism, but had become PARRITT at his marriage! That led me to wondering why this was so, and I concluded that the vicar, curate , parish clerk or census enumerator had often to rely on what they heard, spoken in the prevailing local dialect. Not easy for a relatively well educated person to penetrate the local burr! And as for the parish clerk his spelling may not have been equal to it! Now why didn't the person concerned object to the mis-spelling? Unfortunately It was almost certain that he /she had no literacy skills---and couldn't read or write; and few could write their own name. So any spelling changes stood, because they were undetected. We find it hard to envisage a society where very few were literate. I am talking about the lowest strata of society, and my Ag. Lab. forebears came from the bottom of the heap. You wonder at the lack of curiosity and inability to recognise the "pattern" of your own name, but when sheer survival is the most urgent thing on your mind, there is no room for mulling on such matters. A full belly, and a roof over your head is of more importance! Even after attendence at school was a requirement, for many rural families attendance was very patchy. As I see the very little ones in my family spontaneously recognising alphabet letters, or their own names, at a very early age, I marvel at the illiteracy of the poorer classes in earlier times. That is, until I remind myself that poor nutrition and constant deprivation would certainly dull their minds. The potential was there but the conditions were against any development. Our modern children have everything in their favour for absorbing information as they are well nourished -------surrounded by books, various media and have interesting environment/experiences. In the past children were often required to weed, pick up stones and perform other menial tasks in order to appease the farmer landlord. A tired child would have little energy left to show interest in learning and in books! It is a situation which I found hard to fully appreciate, but since I have thought more about it, so many reasons for the way things were have become apparent .I hope that I now view my family history with a little more sympathy and understanding. Certainly, I appreciate my good fortune in being a child of the 20th century, as I was born a "bookworm".and had the facilities to feed my addiction! Regards, Muriel. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

    10/01/2007 06:02:38
    1. Re: [BAN] Help PLease.
    2. My only suggestion is 'Wheatley' near Oxford. Given the recent topic about haircuts, pulling out of the hair, at the roots, seems appropriate! But, a word of caution, you could end up like me! Yours, Ian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 1.42pm Subject: [BAN] Help PLease. Hi Group , You have kindly helped me in the past with "Woodward" family from Hook Norton area .I would like to?ask if someone?can help solve the place of birth for the below relative .I can not get any further back and cannot find other links ..Thank you in advance ..Would really appreciate some help as getting bald spots where pulling hair out and not very fashionable . Regards Sue ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Census Parish ?????????????????????????Wife????????????????????? Born ?William Woodward Hannah abt 1786 Sweatley, Oxfordshire, England Head Snowshill Gloucestershire ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

    10/01/2007 05:49:19
    1. [BAN] Help PLease.
    2. Hi Group , You have kindly helped me in the past with "Woodward" family from Hook Norton area .I would like to?ask if someone?can help solve the place of birth for the below relative .I can not get any further back and cannot find other links ..Thank you in advance ..Would really appreciate some help as getting bald spots where pulling hair out and not very fashionable . Regards Sue ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Census Parish ?????????????????????????Wife????????????????????? Born ?William Woodward Hannah abt 1786 Sweatley, Oxfordshire, England Head Snowshill Gloucestershire ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

    10/01/2007 02:42:32
    1. [BAN] Cook & Robinson Help Please
    2. Alison Prior
    3. Hi I am new to this list and need help with two particular names. Because my mum was adopted having found details of her birth mother and father we have progressed on to her maternal grand-parents which is where I have my current brick wall: I am trying to find a match to John Edward ROBINSON, birthplace unknown, son to John Henry Robinson a Publican. John Edward married Sarah May COOK (who I am also having problems finding) on 31st August 1903 at Alcester Registry Office in Warwickshire, stating that they lived at Mount Pleasant, Upper Ipsley but then lived in Cannock, Staffordshire when he was father to my Grandmother Madge Elizabeth ROBINSON on 8th August 1904. On the certificate of marriage John Edward stated his occupation as Tailor and said he was a batchelor aged 21. Sarah May was 22 years and a spinster and her father John COOK also a Tailor. The witnesses were James ROBINSON & Eliza ROBINSON. Is there anyone out there who recognises any of these names? TIA Regards Alison Prior http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~alison/ Shop Online & Help raise funds for Leicestershire MS Therapy Centre: <http://www.buy.at/leicestershiremstc>

    09/30/2007 05:31:22
    1. Re: [BAN] The whys and wherefores!
    2. Andy Micklethwaite
    3. At 11:57 29/09/2007, Muriel wrote: >So any spelling changes stood, because they were >undetected. Very well put, Muriel - too many newcomers dismiss possible candidates because the spelling isn't write - sorry, right :-) - without realising what you explained. In collecting my Micklethwaites, I've found over 200 variations, many caused by mis-transcription, another great source of confusion! Some search engines allow for name variation, but others don't - so it helps to think laterally about possible mis-spelling. Best Wishes, Andy.

    09/30/2007 03:58:29
    1. [BAN] The whys and wherefores!
    2. pollyp
    3. Dear Listers, Have you ever returned to information that you are familiar with, to have a flash of illumination and see it with new eyes? This happened to me this week, and I feel that I have gained some fresh insight into this area. I had been looking into the earlier history of my PARRITT family and to my bemusement had found the name spelt every which way; differing within siblings of the same family, or in various documents naming the same person. All the vowels had a turn and the Rs and Ts could be single or double. Even my grandfather was PARROTT at his baptism, but had become PARRITT at his marriage! That led me to wondering why this was so, and I concluded that the vicar, curate , parish clerk or census enumerator had often to rely on what they heard, spoken in the prevailing local dialect. Not easy for a relatively well educated person to penetrate the local burr! And as for the parish clerk his spelling may not have been equal to it! Now why didn't the person concerned object to the mis-spelling? Unfortunately It was almost certain that he /she had no literacy skills---and couldn't read or write; and few could write their own name. So any spelling changes stood, because they were undetected. We find it hard to envisage a society where very few were literate. I am talking about the lowest strata of society, and my Ag. Lab. forebears came from the bottom of the heap. You wonder at the lack of curiosity and inability to recognise the "pattern" of your own name, but when sheer survival is the most urgent thing on your mind, there is no room for mulling on such matters. A full belly, and a roof over your head is of more importance! Even after attendence at school was a requirement, for many rural families attendance was very patchy. As I see the very little ones in my family spontaneously recognising alphabet letters, or their own names, at a very early age, I marvel at the illiteracy of the poorer classes in earlier times. That is, until I remind myself that poor nutrition and constant deprivation would certainly dull their minds. The potential was there but the conditions were against any development. Our modern children have everything in their favour for absorbing information as they are well nourished -------surrounded by books, various media and have interesting environment/experiences. In the past children were often required to weed, pick up stones and perform other menial tasks in order to appease the farmer landlord. A tired child would have little energy left to show interest in learning and in books! It is a situation which I found hard to fully appreciate, but since I have thought more about it, so many reasons for the way things were have become apparent .I hope that I now view my family history with a little more sympathy and understanding. Certainly, I appreciate my good fortune in being a child of the 20th century, as I was born a "bookworm".and had the facilities to feed my addiction! Regards, Muriel.

    09/29/2007 04:57:33
    1. Re: [BAN] The whys and wherefores!
    2. Dorothy.gibbs
    3. Hi Barbara, Yup... add the H and one is despised for 'talking posh'! grin Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Adair" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] The whys and wherefores! > Muriel has discovered anew what many of us have come across. I had > trouble finding the forebears of my EAVER grandmother until I found > in a Census record that they came from Hungerford, Berks. Upon > investigating the records there I found that the name was really > HEAVER. As is still quite usual the initial H got dropped and as > they were also illiterate they did not correct any writer of the name > spoken as EAVER. That missing "H" is still very much around in the > London area in this day and age! > Barbara > > > > On 29-Sep-07, at 6:57 AM, pollyp wrote: > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/29/2007 10:54:17
    1. Re: [BAN] The whys and wherefores!
    2. Barbara Adair
    3. Muriel has discovered anew what many of us have come across. I had trouble finding the forebears of my EAVER grandmother until I found in a Census record that they came from Hungerford, Berks. Upon investigating the records there I found that the name was really HEAVER. As is still quite usual the initial H got dropped and as they were also illiterate they did not correct any writer of the name spoken as EAVER. That missing "H" is still very much around in the London area in this day and age! Barbara On 29-Sep-07, at 6:57 AM, pollyp wrote: >

    09/29/2007 04:56:59
    1. [BAN] Memories of haircuts
    2. I was a RAF National Service airman 1955-57 & remember the silliness of the military haircut - I am sure the drill corporals were on a commission from the barber - we had to pay for our haircuts - a shilling a time I think it was out of a week's pay of 28 shillings. One day I had to get my haircut twice & again the next day. In civvy street the trendy teddy boys went for the 'Tony Curtis' with a forelock hanging over the forehead or a DA where the hair was carefully wrapped around the skull to form a shape at the back like the rear end of a duck. This provided great pleasure to drill corporals as they saw the hair disappear to be replaced by a shorn military hair style. There was an embarrassing moment when a corporal said to a lad with a fine crop of ginger hair "we'll soon get rid of that laddie" & poked the hair with his stick at which the hair parted company with the head - it was a wig - the unfortunate recruit had alopecia. I am now quite trendy with my skin head style & I don't have to go the barbers much more than a couple of times a year. Vic Taylor

    09/28/2007 12:09:56
    1. Re: [BAN] New Book Available Now
    2. Dawn Griffis
    3. A commission in the future is definitely possible. Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: [BAN] New Book Available Now > > > Just to let you all know, that our own Dawn Griffis has her new book > available from Lulu. > Nursing at the Horton - The way it was. When care to the local people > really mattered. > > Very topical, given the threat of closure. > The other hospital mentioned in the book, Savernake, is also under threat, > as seen on Central News last week. > A very good read, especially for those who: > > > > > Have a background in Medicine > Know the Horton GH > Have relatives who worked there in the 60's. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots of photos in the book, as one comes to expect from Dawn. > Get your copy now. Contact Dawn directly and she may even give you a > discount!! > > > > > > Ian. Who is not on commission - yet!! > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and > store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from > your favourite artists. Find out more at > http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/28/2007 08:51:36
    1. Re: [BAN] Memories of the 50s
    2. Dorothy.gibbs
    3. Hi Joe, I do love your memories messages. This one brought back memories of my brother at a similar age. I shall show it to him when I see him... he has email but has to be told to read it... which rather defeats the purpose! grin Thanks Joe, Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] Memories of the 50s Hand on hip, the elfin creature regarded me sympathetically through the mirror. 'Sir would prefer something a little more roguish, perhaps?" Well, no, actually. Sir would prefer the usual short back and sides with a background free of loud metronomic rhythm. Th mind flashed back to school days, when absence of a side parting was a sending home offence. Mother would accept the decision with resigned patience and reached for the pot of Brylcreme. Was Denis Compton plagued with small flies? Did it drip down the back of his neck on hot days? What did he have to smile about -- apart from appearances for England at both football and cricket; an income from adverts in Reynolds News? Items of furniture incorporated little squares of cloth on their backs, to soak up hair preparation in an attempt to protect from the inevitable and subsequent smear. Hair that was more easily controlled could be laced with Brilliantine, but this was considered rather risqué and exuded an aroma which would linger on the number 20 bus for days. Users of Brilliantine also tended to use cigarette holders and have buckteeth. Return to school involved the cap being peeled off for inspection by the Headmaster. "Always remember, boy, the Empire was built on standards". Briefly I considered all those lumberjacks and sheep shearers, toiling in the sun with their short back and sides; copious levels of Brylcreme. We lost the Empire. -- Smokey Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/28/2007 05:30:01
    1. [BAN] New Book Available Now
    2. Just to let you all know, that our own Dawn Griffis has her new book available from Lulu. Nursing at the Horton - The way it was. When care to the local people really mattered. Very topical, given the threat of closure. The other hospital mentioned in the book, Savernake, is also under threat, as seen on Central News last week. A very good read, especially for those who: Have a background in Medicine Know the Horton GH Have relatives who worked there in the 60's. Lots of photos in the book, as one comes to expect from Dawn. Get your copy now. Contact Dawn directly and she may even give you a discount!! Ian. Who is not on commission - yet!! ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

    09/28/2007 12:49:01
    1. [BAN] Thanks for the Memories!
    2. pollyp
    3. Hi Joe----and Lister Friends, You certainly can bring memories to my mind -------- Curiously peering through the front windows of the barber's shop to watch as the occupant of the chair had a cape pinned securely, and the "shearing" began! Of course you daredn't stare outright, and pretended to be viewing the cigarette rollers, cigarette cases, leather purses, (yes men did have "tray" purses), leather wallets, pens, filters, cigars and pens that were arranged in the window. Those waiting read the racing results, or similar papers or chatted as they puffed on a cigarette.. It was the workingman's equivalent of the London clubs frequented by the affluent! I was amused to see elderly men front up for a haircut, as they hadn't much in the way of thinning locks to shed. Short , back and sides was the usual order. And those being shaved revelled in the luxury of being cossetted and primped. Army haircuts were pretty severe, and some, like my brother who did his National Service in North Africa and Cyprus in the mid 50s, had a version of the crew cut for comfort. I have a photograph of him on his discharge, when it was growing out, and it stuck up vertically, with no lotions or gunk! On my arrival in New Zealand in 1960, I was to find that the short back and sides was taken very literally and the menfolk were nearly scalped! They began to look human again just when it was time to revisit the barber.. Similarly I found most things rather quaint and old fashioned, compared to England---clothing styles, vehicles and attitudes. It took some time with increasing exposure to the media, before the discrepancy was less noticeable. But the town I now live in, was at that time a dear little colonial outpost. I was, and am, very fond of it, but I sorrow for the loss of some of its character, as it modernises to catch up with the larger centres. It is in danger of losing something precious in its bid for modernisation---and could just as wellend up like any city suburb. Yes, brylcream and brilliantine, and a handlebar moustache, worn by our dashing fighter pilots are wartime memories. They were the elite---and they knew it! Looking in the supermarket the other day for something to revive my fading perm, I was out of luck. I was amused to notice Clay, Glue, Mud as well as the gels, mousses and sprays to shape, mould and tame the hair, or straighten it and add sleekness! What would the grandparents have made of these? But a glance along the High Street nowadays will see young male peacocks sporting weird and wonderful coloured and streaked hairstyles.Some may have artistically shaved heads,whilst others have flowing and untamed locks. They quite outdo the fairer sex! I will close now before I raise the ire of some younger and trendier listers! The world can be an amusing place, and I confess to enjoying the present, and recalling the past!. " Thanks for the memories". Regards, Muriel.

    09/27/2007 06:32:43
    1. Re: [BAN] Memories of the 50s
    2. betty
    3. Joe The Empire may have Gone BUT "There'll Always Be An England" "A Little DAb'll Do Ya!" A Brylcreem Boy,,? >>>wonder what Ringlets thought about that.. Believe it was made with beeswax.plus ?????stuff!! R.A F Pilots WW11..." The Brylcreem Boys.". Denis Compton >> Now there was a Wow! way back then... and he didn't have a Mobile Phone !!!! :-) betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] Memories of the 50s Hand on hip, the elfin creature regarded me sympathetically through the mirror. 'Sir would prefer something a little more roguish, perhaps?" Well, no, actually. Sir would prefer the usual short back and sides with a background free of loud metronomic rhythm. Th mind flashed back to school days, when absence of a side parting was a sending home offence. Mother would accept the decision with resigned patience and reached for the pot of Brylcreme. Was Denis Compton plagued with small flies? Did it drip down the back of his neck on hot days? What did he have to smile about -- apart from appearances for England at both football and cricket; an income from adverts in Reynolds News? Items of furniture incorporated little squares of cloth on their backs, to soak up hair preparation in an attempt to protect from the inevitable and subsequent smear. Hair that was more easily controlled could be laced with Brilliantine, but this was considered rather risqué and exuded an aroma which would linger on the number 20 bus for days. Users of Brilliantine also tended to use cigarette holders and have buckteeth. Return to school involved the cap being peeled off for inspection by the Headmaster. "Always remember, boy, the Empire was built on standards". Briefly I considered all those lumberjacks and sheep shearers, toiling in the sun with their short back and sides; copious levels of Brylcreme. We lost the Empire. -- Smokey Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/27/2007 02:46:19
    1. Re: [BAN] Thanks for the Memories!
    2. JOHN PLESTER
    3. [email protected] wrote: Baldness is hereditary - you get it from your kids! The same is true of insanity. I have a large family and I've gone quite mad - ask anyone who knew me before I retired. But just to keep this on-message - I grew up in Grimsbury, went to school at Grimsbury Secondary Modern, and have many memories. Was anuone else on the List at that school between 1958 - 1962. John - enjoying a mid-life crisis in Plymouth

    09/27/2007 08:58:41
    1. Re: [BAN] Thanks for the Memories!
    2. Those were the days - short back and sides. I now make do with a short back and polish! My tonsured locks are distant memories now. I thought about a toupee, but then found out how much I had toupee. I considered a transplant, but think I'd look silly with a kidney stuck on my head. So I have decided to grow old disgracefully. What little I have is white, but that's the genes. Baldness is hereditary - you get it from your kids! Ian -----Original Message----- From: pollyp <[email protected]> To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 1.32pm Subject: [BAN] Thanks for the Memories! Hi Joe----and Lister Friends, You certainly can bring memories to my mind -------- Curiously peering through the front windows of the barber's shop to watch as the occupant of the chair had a cape pinned securely, and the "shearing" began! Of course you daredn't stare outright, and pretended to be viewing the cigarette rollers, cigarette cases, leather purses, (yes men did have "tray" purses), leather wallets, pens, filters, cigars and pens that were arranged in the window. Those waiting read the racing results, or similar papers or chatted as they puffed on a cigarette.. It was the workingman's equivalent of the London clubs frequented by the affluent! I was amused to see elderly men front up for a haircut, as they hadn't much in the way of thinning locks to shed. Short , back and sides was the usual order. And those being shaved revelled in the luxury of being cossetted and primped. Army haircuts were pretty severe, and some, like my brother who did his National Service in North Africa and Cyprus in the mid 50s, had a version of the crew cut for comfort. I have a photograph of him on his discharge, when it was growing out, and it stuck up vertically, with no lotions or gunk! On my arrival in New Zealand in 1960, I was to find that the short back and sides was taken very literally and the menfolk were nearly scalped! They began to look human again just when it was time to revisit the barber.. Similarly I found most things rather quaint and old fashioned, compared to England---clothing styles, vehicles and attitudes. It took some time with increasing exposure to the media, before the discrepancy was less noticeable. But the town I now live in, was at that time a dear little colonial outpost. I was, and am, very fond of it, but I sorrow for the loss of some of its character, as it modernises to catch up with the larger centres. It is in danger of losing something precious in its bid for modernisation---and could just as wellend up like any city suburb. Yes, brylcream and brilliantine, and a handlebar moustache, worn by our dashing fighter pilots are wartime memories. They were the elite---and they knew it! Looking in the supermarket the other day for something to revive my fading perm, I was out of luck. I was amused to notice Clay, Glue, Mud as well as the gels, mousses and sprays to shape, mould and tame the hair, or straighten it and add sleekness! What would the grandparents have made of these? But a glance along the High Street nowadays will see young male peacocks sporting weird and wonderful coloured and streaked hairstyles.Some may have artistically shaved heads,whilst others have flowing and untamed locks. They quite outdo the fairer sex! I will close now before I raise the ire of some younger and trendier listers! The world can be an amusing place, and I confess to enjoying the present, and recalling the past!. " Thanks for the memories". Regards, Muriel. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

    09/27/2007 02:58:20
    1. Re: [BAN] Memories of the 50s
    2. Joe
    3. Hand on hip, the elfin creature regarded me sympathetically through the mirror. 'Sir would prefer something a little more roguish, perhaps?" Well, no, actually. Sir would prefer the usual short back and sides with a background free of loud metronomic rhythm. Th mind flashed back to school days, when absence of a side parting was a sending home offence. Mother would accept the decision with resigned patience and reached for the pot of Brylcreme. Was Denis Compton plagued with small flies? Did it drip down the back of his neck on hot days? What did he have to smile about -- apart from appearances for England at both football and cricket; an income from adverts in Reynolds News? Items of furniture incorporated little squares of cloth on their backs, to soak up hair preparation in an attempt to protect from the inevitable and subsequent smear. Hair that was more easily controlled could be laced with Brilliantine, but this was considered rather risqué and exuded an aroma which would linger on the number 20 bus for days. Users of Brilliantine also tended to use cigarette holders and have buckteeth. Return to school involved the cap being peeled off for inspection by the Headmaster. "Always remember, boy, the Empire was built on standards". Briefly I considered all those lumberjacks and sheep shearers, toiling in the sun with their short back and sides; copious levels of Brylcreme. We lost the Empire. -- Smokey Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection

    09/27/2007 01:04:19
    1. [BAN] [OXF] Rod Neep's Archive CD closing down
    2. Rosemary Probert
    3. RodNeep's Archive CD Books is closing down at the end of the month. There is a 50% discount sale on all CDs. http://www.rod-neep.co.uk Just in case you want an early Christmas present :-) Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: [email protected] Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    09/24/2007 04:06:43
    1. Re: [BAN] Lillian MOYSES & Sydney MOORE
    2. betty
    3. Banbury THEN.. The REGAL near the Whately The PALACE in the Market Place The GRAND in Broad St. I've shared the 1/9d seats in ALL. . NO. not always in the Back Seat. ?? betty ( wrinklies have memories too <grn> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [BAN] Lillian MOYSES & Sydney MOORE > > > I'm sure someone on list can remember what cinemas were in Banbury at that > time & where? > > Angela > co admin Banbury > > > >>> Lillian Moyses B1900 married Sydney Moore having 2 girls and 1 boy >>> living >>> in >>> Banbury during WW2. >>> >>> Lillian was my aunt and Sydney either owned, or managed a Banbury >>> Cinema. - >>> They arranged for my Mother and I to be evacuated from London to the >>> Aynho >>> Arms. >>> >>> (which was adjacent to the Oxford canal and 2 railway stations) during >>> the >>> war. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/24/2007 03:51:58