Hi All, I am looking for the birth date and parents of ALFRED WRIGHTON believe to have been born in Aynhoe Northamptonshire. He could have been born as late as 1897 back to 1880. He was killed 9th May 1915 WWI his army number was 12835 he was with the Northamptonshire Regiment 1st Battalion his memorial is at Le Touret Panel 28 to 30. That is all I have, any help would be appreciated - we are trying to get complete background information on all our war dead associated with the village. Thanks, Dawn

Hi Dawn Sorry, no parents names or ages given. There must be 2 men: The one Barbara has info on, born 1882, married with 2 children, killed 1916, army number 17146 The one nobody has info on so far, born 1891 in Warwickshire, who has the army number you are looking for 12835, killed 1915. He is not necessarily connected with Aynho, according to the official record, despite being enlisted in the Northamptonshire Regiment (before its massive expansion?). What makes you think that he is? Regards Kim Sargerson (Mr., not Mrs. or Miss)

Dawn: In among my papers I have an Alfred born c. 1881 son of Frederick Wrighton and Mary Peckover. Fred was the son of Joseph W. and Mary Ann Franklin. Joseph was the fourth son of William Wrighton and Mary Hartlett. Joe born 4 Aug. 1811, Fred born 1845. Does that fit with what you know? A man born in 1881 would be the right age to be in the Army in 1915 and the War Graves Commission says his age is unknown. BUT I also have (courtesy of Sybil Humphris Stevens) an Alfred Wrighton married to Minnie Cross and he was killed in action on 17 Aug. 1916. They had Frederick Charles born 9 Jan 1910 and Dennis Bertram b. 9 Feb. 1913. Regards, Barbara. On 14-Oct-07, at 6:09 AM, Dawn Griffis wrote: > Hi All, > I am looking for the birth date and parents of ALFRED WRIGHTON > believe to have been born in Aynhoe Northamptonshire. He could have > been born as late as 1897 back to 1880. He was killed 9th May 1915 > WWI his army number was 12835 he was with the Northamptonshire > Regiment 1st Battalion his memorial is at Le Touret Panel 28 to 30. > That is all I have, any help would be appreciated - we are trying > to get complete background information on all our war dead > associated with the village. > Thanks, > Dawn > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been > updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dawn There seem to be 2 Alfred Wrightons: 1) Army number 12835, KIA 1915 May 9, 1st Batt. Northamptonshire Regt., born Halton Warwickshire (1891 Sep Qtr 6d 593?) 2) Army number 17146, KIA 1916 Aug 17, 7th Batt. Northamptonshire Regt., born Aynho Northants (1882 Dec Qtr 3b 76?) Data on number through to place of birth given by findmypast.com; birth index reference is my guess. HTH Kim Sargerson

Dear Listers; I have the following ancestor with a connection to 'New Banbury'. I'm wondering if anyone has AUSTIN connections in that area, around the time of Samuel's birth. Samuel AUSTIN Born: 1802 Place: New Banbury, OXF, ENG Spouse: Unknown Children: • Elizabeth AUSTIN born 1832 in Brighton, SSX, ENG • William James AUSTIN born 1835/7 in Brighton, SSX, ENG Sources: • Census 1871 in 37 Portland St, Brighton, SSX, ENG • Cited in Post Office Directory of the Six Home Counties, 1851 Section B, Pg. 714, 725 Notes: • Bootmaker (1853) • Possible Death Information: Deaths Dec 1873, AUSTIN Samuel, 72, Brighton, Vol. 2b Pg. 146 Warmest Regards; Jenn

Dear Banbury listers, I am new to this list, having spent most of my time on the CLWYD list researching my family history in North Wales. I am trying to track down a great uncle, Joseph WILLIAMS, who was born in the Wrexham area in North Wales, but who lived in Banbury, probably as a result of his employment by the GWR railway company. I believe he was a lodger in Shrewsbury in the 1901 census, so his time in Banbury would have been after that. Joseph was born c1882, and was a porter then a guard on the GWR. He was married to a woman called Nancy, and had two daughters named Margery and Gladys, I believe. One of his daughters may have married a man called WHITTAKER, but I don't know where or when, I'm afraid. Joseph WILLIAMS was active in politics, and the family legend is that he stood against Lady Astor in an election (unsuccessfully), though I have been able to find any corroboration for that. Joseph eventually settled in the Plymouth area, and probably died before 1963. I would be very grateful for any help or advice on tracking him down, or what any connections between Banbury and the GWR (or Lady Astor) might have been. Thanks & best wishes, John Wynne

Hi Eryl & friends, I like the idea of a section on the website for family bibles. A few immediate thoughts: 1. Transcript of the entries would be needed. Screen readers & Google can't "read" text on images & photos. You can send these to me in an email or as a 'word' attachment. Don't send them to the list. 2. Photograph/s or scan/s would be a bonus - even a photograph of the bible itself. Please send large images - then I can edit them down to fit the page 3. Extra information can be added about the family if you have any. 4. Contact name & address. I do add brackets around the email addresses on the site - it seems to stop spam bots from picking up these addresses. 5. I am quite happy to add *any* family bible - it doesn't have to be directly related to Banburyshire. 6. Any questions? The site is designed for sharing - so share what you have - you never know who might find it - it might be just the person who can break down your brickwall! Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: [email protected] Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Eryl Bloxham wrote: > I wonder if we might have a section on family details recorded in > family bibles. Very often family bibles are passed out of the > family, I have seen them at auctions. These details are a tresure > trove for family historians and may be of little interest to the > present owners. Eryl

Hi A relative took photos of our family bible, which there is no way I was ever going to get to see as it was on the other side of the world. I'm glad she did, because I was able to verify details my grandmother had copied out for me many years ago, and spot a few things she had not gotten quite right. This in turn helped out track down a few folk that I had not been able to sort out. It was also interesting to see that there were a few other comments on the pages that Nan had not thought important, but added to the whole picture for me. Carole -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eryl Bloxham Sent: Friday, 12 October 2007 5:47 a.m. To: BANBURY Subject: [BAN] Family bibles I wonder if we might have a section on family details recorded in family bibles. Very often family bibles are passed out of the family, I have seen them at auctions. These details are a tresure trove for family historians and may be of little interest to the present owners. Eryl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1061 - Release Date: 10/10/2007 8:43 a.m.

I'll second you on that good idea Eryl. Rosemary has final say re web site contribution. Only fair as R knows how much work may be involved. Angela >I wonder if we might have a section on family details recorded in family >bibles. Very often family bibles are passed out of the family, I have seen >them at auctions. These details are a tresure trove for family historians >and may be of little interest to the present owners. Eryl

I wonder if we might have a section on family details recorded in family bibles. Very often family bibles are passed out of the family, I have seen them at auctions. These details are a tresure trove for family historians and may be of little interest to the present owners. Eryl

Hi Joe and other Lister friends, Sorry to be slow off the mark, but I was occupied on other matters--- I hadn't forgotten your very evocative posting, Joe! How that rolls back the years! Best friends are scarce on the ground, in my life, these days, although through an unexpected turn of events, a few months back I was able to meet mine, after not seeing her for 10 years! As best friends do---we immediately took up where we'd left off, and had a wonderful day together! But Joe was referring to the best friends of our childhood and youth---quite a different "kettle of fish". Dredging back through the years there was Mavis, my red headed friend from my first day at school and for so many, many years. For so long we shared our school days at Paradise Infants, Edgewick Juniors, Wheatley Street CA Classes and finally Stoke Park. Grammar---over 10+ of our formative years. I longed for the dancing classes she attended, the short pleated skirts and the ankle strap shoes that she wore, but she wasn't a show off and was a nice child. I don't know what she found to like about me? I do remember a third person slipping into the equation when we were about 13, and I felt jealousy---(not a nice attribute, Muriel) but she was but a passing phase. There were other best friends later on , and pleasant companions they were, until at last, at Training College, I met Sheila---another redhead, but blonder , who remained my friend for the rest of her life. Our friendship survived global separation, and I was so happy to visit with her in April 2000. Poor lass, as dear as ever, but battling severe pain and disability, having had ankle replacements. An irony of Fate to strike the free striding girl who'd loved the hills of Derbyshire and the mountains of Switzerland/Austria/Italy. When I was young and at the inquisitive stage of wanting to know more about Life, ( babies/ sex etc), we were hampered by having little in the way of information. So in our free time we neighbourhood kids would group together to exchange titibits of so-called knowledge. There was nowhere to meet, so we went for walks around our industrial locality, which was liberally spattered with "jetties" and alleyways linking one road to another.This activity fizzled out when the 11+ examination divided us up educationally and we went our separate ways. My teen leisure time was then taken up by the Girls' Life Brigade and the Church choir, and homework took care of the rest, and gradually encroached until there was no time for even those. My erstwhile friends were as free as air, by then, using make-up and tending the varnish on their nails---with Youth Club and dancing and Socials to look forward to after their daytime stints in an office or shop. So we were irrevocably parted. Some attempts were made to keep up, mainly the Autograph Book, and I still have mine with the signatures of favourite teachers and good friends. Some were just good wishes and a signature, and others witty or more cryptic. Unfortunately my book doesn't emulate the beautiful drawings, and paintings in Auntie Florrie's Autograph Book. Hers was a real treasure chest. Do best friends exist today? Yes, yes, yes! In my own family a shining example is of young granddaughter, Amelia, and Gt granddaughter, Emma, who announced to us at one birthday party a couple of years ago, "We are best friends" And at 5 years of age, they still are! It is a lovely to see their delight in each other's company. On that note, I will end. Best friendships still live on.----so do woven bracelets! Regards, Muriel.

Hi Kevin, Thank you for spotting that mistake - now sorted :-) Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: [email protected] Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kevin Poile wrote: > Rosemary, > > Just looked at some of the additions and noticed that you have the > dedication of the Church in Balscote wrong it should be "St Mary > Magdalene". > > Kevin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rosemary, Just looked at some of the additions and noticed that you have the dedication of the Church in Balscote wrong it should be "St Mary Magdalene". Kevin

Hello, Hello.. Lists all quiet so spent time browsing BANBURYSHIRE.. .... Catching up.!!...???? Rosemary has been BUSY again... thus a.... Looooooooong Enjoyable Browse.. Sure her efforts, much appreciated by ALL... Pleased to see a couple of books (new). >>especially when near to **Roots >> Nostalgia to the Fore..<< These i have read and can recommend - be the location, not the territory of you,you and your.... ref:: **Living in The Country. by the late D.A. JUDD. (Fond Memories) > including quite a few Banbury Cakes - but, that's another story..:-) A family friend from "Way Back".... .Hope you find a link David....Denis was one of the *Nice Guys... Anyone with interests of BYFIELD, The other book "Discovering Byfield" by John.RUSSELL.. "A Pick Up Anytime" .. Lots of Local History.....Village Life. very well researched... . "Where are you Banburians hiding.". ????? Cheers from the Antipodes. betty ..

[For Betty:] My attention had been caught by a small bracelet, delicately wrought in coloured wools. Its owner and my fashion adviser, was a very earnest young lady, some seven years old. She explained “It’s my friendship bangle -- I have this one, and Tiara, my bestest friend ever, has one the same”. I too had once known this requirement. With the aid of his brother's scout knife we cut our thumbs and became blood brothers, as demonstrated by Jeff Chandler playing Cochise in Broken Arrow, a recent Saturday matinee film. Sworn to everlasting friendship. It is a shame I can't remember who he was. He lived with his mother and a succession of uncles; he could climb a lamppost faster than anyone else; and possessed an amazing collection of disgusting things in matchboxes. I was drawn by his independence of spirit but my parents considered him to be an undisciplined ne’er-do-well and an unhealthy influence. We had our own secret symbol, never to be divulged under any circumstance, which paradoxically was displayed in ink on the backs of our hand. Mine remained clear and fresh, being renewed after hand washing at each mealtime. His faded gradually over a period of some weeks. We inevitably drifted apart after junior school, with my transition to a grammar school. He took this as a personal affront. Such milestones in life were commemorated with little autograph books, whose pastel coloured pages were endorsed by departing friends. Autographs of the dinner lady (who patrolled the lunchtime playground surrounded by chosen acolytes) and the caretaker with his wooden leg (who lived in a small corrugated shack and hated children), were interspersed with rhymes and drawings by school friends. It was a social stigma to collect fewer entries than another. Everyone had a personal and pithy phrase for entry. Adults would pen well-meaning proverbs or advice for a subsequent career, while entries by friends were often of an extremely personal nature. If only I could remember his name ... -- Smokey Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection

Betty i have not been hiding, I have been finding more cousins! I set myself the task of finding the descendants of my Great Grandparents Henry Wrighton and Julia Borton of Aynho. They had 15 children in 25 years and my Granddad Charlie was in the middle. I found that three of them died before age 10 and have found out who the first three girls married and have met at least one of their descendants. One brother emigrated to Wisconsin, USA in 1913 and I have connected to the descendants of his family and intend to visit them someday. The youngest three brothers have also provided a meeting with a male descendant and lots more information. The youngest brother's two sons' families remain elusive. It has all been fun and that's only my Mum's side, have also been working on my Dad's family but that is a whole other story. Barbara in Ottawa On 8-Oct-07, at 2:25 AM, betty wrote: > Hello, Hello.. > > Lists all quiet so spent time browsing BANBURYSHIRE.. .... > Catching up.!!...???? > > Rosemary has been BUSY again... thus a.... Looooooooong Enjoyable > Browse.. > Sure her efforts, much appreciated by ALL... > > Pleased to see a couple of books (new). >>> especially when near to **Roots >> Nostalgia to the Fore..<< > > These i have read and can recommend - be the location, not the > territory of you,you and your.... > > ref:: **Living in The Country. by the late D.A. JUDD. > (Fond Memories) > including quite a few Banbury Cakes - but, > that's another story..:-) > A family friend from "Way Back".... > .Hope you find a link David....Denis was one of the *Nice Guys... > > Anyone with interests of BYFIELD, The other book "Discovering > Byfield" by John.RUSSELL.. > "A Pick Up Anytime" .. Lots of Local History.....Village > Life. very well researched... > > . > "Where are you Banburians hiding.". ????? > > Cheers from the Antipodes. > betty > > > > > > > > > .. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been > updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. View them at > http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/northants%20strays.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-BANBURY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Friends, Here are some additions to the Banburyshire Website made over the summer: SURNAMES: -ADKINS, ANDREWS, ASTELL, DUMBLETON, ENGLAND, FENIMORE (&amp; CROOK), GARRETT, HAWKINS, HONE (updated), MANDER, SEWELL (updated), WATTS FAMILY HISTORIES: - "Eliza: Forty-six Years On" (Eliza WHEELER later DENHAM) - "Eliza’s Last Thoughts" : [DENHAM, WHEELER] - "HONE : Brailes, Warwickshire; Adderbury, Oxfordshire & Ontario, Canada" - "Frederick George WILSON" : "Okey" WILSON - "Joseph Rosamond WILSON & Elizabeth BAYLIS" : Joseph James WILSON & Annie Sarah HIGGINS MEMORIALS & REMEMBRANCES: - Memorials from Milcombe - transcripts by Cliff Potter - Memorials from Adderbury [HONE] - William ALLIBONE Memorial from Pillerton Hersey MEMORIES & REMINISCENCES: - A Hard Day's Work - Family Fun For All Ages - Bygone ways! - Banbury 60 years ago, written in 1959 by William E. Fuller - In family life, a lot has changed in sixty years - I am not my mother's daughter for nothing! - Running Errands - Easier now than then! - Short, back &amp; sides - The Military Haircut - The Empire was built on standards - Memories of Whitsuntide VILLAGES: - Photographs of Balscote, Oxfordshire - Photograph of Tadmarton - Parish Church of St. Nicholas - Photographs of St. Ann's Parish Church, Epwell, Oxfordshire - Photographs of Shutford, Oxfordshire - Photographs of The Canal at Banbury, Oxfordshire BOOKS AND BOOK REVIEWS: - Portrait of Coventry : E.B. Newbold - All Quiet on the Home Front : Steve Humphries & Richard Van Emden - Living in the Country - Life in Rural Northamptonshire from before the First World War : D A Judd - Ramlin Rose: The Boatwoman's Story : Sheila Stewart - Wartime memories of the city of Coventry : Anne Williams - Aynhoe Village Life. The Way it Was – Then – Before and Beyond : Dawn Griffis BITS & PIECES: - Links - some new ones (Francis Firth Photographic Collection; RootsWeb Surname List; Faces of Oxfordshire; North Aston;); Old occupations etc etc - Home website of Issy Miles - CRIPPS family - Ten tips for taking a cemetery survey - Spelling - The whys and wherefores! All new and updated pages are marked on the site map: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/site-map.htm Note that the site map isn't a complete list of all the pages on the website - it will be eventually :-) Go to the index pages of each section if you can't find what you are looking for on the site map. For any of you who are new to the list - this is a website for the list - so please feel free to contact me with anything you might like to add or share. Have fun, Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: [email protected] Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Would anyone know anything of Alice HORNESLYE who appears in the early Banbury Baptisms register as a Godparent on several occasions, she appears at least 5 - 6 times in 1558. I am wondering whether she is the same Alice HORLEY or HORNSLYE who married John JUDDE in Banbury on 29 January 1572. Any feedback or details appreciated, David Judd

I did wooodwork at school the girls did typing.! Typing was seen as sissy. Feminine vs Masculine Mantra . Although 'I' must say that I do see more feminine attributes in day to day progreesion , as the Decline of The Universal Masculine, takes hold. Although 'I' do prefer typing, as 'I' seem to be sitting on my chair more often. Their is always money to be made in peoples laziness. Forgive me for my laziness. brett [oz] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [BAN] The whys and wherefores! > > Sadly, I feel we are gradually reverting to illiteracy! > > the number of e-mails and letters i get with no punctuation capitalisation > and ridled with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors?i wunder weather > it is me what is doing it wrongly and i am sure that many of you have > experienced a similar decline in standards to > I blame it, in part, on the use of text messaging, as well as falling > standards in schools. But, my question is: How do these people get job > interviews, when they are obviously not filling in the application forms > themselves, or writing their own CV's? Someone said to me the other day: > "Does it matter, as long as you can read it?" Yes, It bolody does!! I am > pretty good at decyphering e-mails, to make them read as they are meant, > but should I have to spend an extra 2 minutes, reading each and every one, > just to make sense of them, when a little forethought would eliminate > that? Thank goodness for the delete key! > OK. Soapbox put away now! > > > Ian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pollyp <[email protected]> > To: ENG-BANBURY-AREA <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11.57am > Subject: [BAN] The whys and wherefores! > > > > > Dear Listers, > Have you ever returned to information that you are familiar with, to > have a > flash of > illumination and see it with new eyes? This happened to me this week, and > I feel > that I have gained some fresh insight into this area. > I had been looking into the earlier history of my PARRITT family and > to my > > bemusement had found the name spelt every which way; differing within > siblings > of the same family, or in various documents naming the same person. All > the > vowels > had a turn and the Rs and Ts could be single or double. Even my > grandfather was > PARROTT at his baptism, but had become PARRITT at his marriage! > That led me to wondering why this was so, and I concluded that the > vicar, > curate , > parish clerk or census enumerator had often to rely on what they heard, > spoken > in the prevailing local dialect. Not easy for a relatively well educated > person > to > penetrate the local burr! And as for the parish clerk his spelling may not > have > been > equal to it! > Now why didn't the person concerned object to the mis-spelling? > Unfortunately It > was almost certain that he /she had no literacy skills---and couldn't read > or > write; and > few could write their own name. So any spelling changes stood, because > they were > > undetected. > We find it hard to envisage a society where very few were literate. I > am > talking about > the lowest strata of society, and my Ag. Lab. forebears came from the > bottom of > the > heap. You wonder at the lack of curiosity and inability to recognise the > "pattern" of your > own name, but when sheer survival is the most urgent thing on your mind, > there > is no > room for mulling on such matters. A full belly, and a roof over your head > is of > more > importance! Even after attendence at school was a requirement, for many > rural > families > attendance was very patchy. > > As I see the very little ones in my family spontaneously recognising > alphabet > letters, or their own names, at a very early age, I marvel at the > illiteracy of > the poorer > classes in earlier times. That is, until I remind myself that poor > nutrition and > constant > deprivation would certainly dull their minds. The potential was there but > the > conditions > were against any development. > Our modern children have everything in their favour for absorbing > information as > they are well nourished -------surrounded by books, various media and have > interesting > environment/experiences. In the past children were often required to > weed, pick > up > stones and perform other menial tasks in order to appease the farmer > landlord. > A tired > child would have little energy left to show interest in learning and in > books! > It is a situation which I found hard to fully appreciate, but since I > have > thought more > about it, so many reasons for the way things were have become apparent > .I hope that I now view my family history with a little more sympathy > and > understanding. > Certainly, I appreciate my good fortune in being a child of the 20th > century, as > I was born > a "bookworm".and had the facilities to feed my addiction! > Regards, > Muriel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The online Northamptonshire marriage strays index has just been updated. > Now nearly 7,000 marriages are included. 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Hi Alison Cannot suggest any identification for John Eward Robinson or any of the Cooks, but John Edward's father *might* be John Henry Robinson, on 1881 census as John H Robinson, licensed victualler (of the Ordnance Arms Hotel, Hathersage, Derbyshire) aged 25, born Ashopton, Derbyshire, wife Hannah M (25, born Sheffield), child Charles H, 3, born Hathersage. This is the only John H(enry) Robinson I can find who was a publican in 1881. Charles Henry in FreeBMD born 1878, March Qtr., Bakewell 7b 742 (Bakewell district includes Hathersage) John Henry Robinson and Hannah Maria Dawson, marriage in FreeBMD 1877, June Qtr., Sheffield 9c 543. There are no John E(dward) Robinsons in the Bakewell district for 1881-2, and precious few anywhere else. HTH Kim Sargerson