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    1. [ET] This list is going away
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. In fact all Roosweb lists are being inactivated and archived. I am shocked about this. We've been sharing information and helping one another on the lists for many years. Thank you subscribers and contributors over these 20+ years. Some of these tech lists never took off and I presume will not be missed. Here is the text of the announcement to all of us listowners: Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After > that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on > RootsWeb. > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a > great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message > boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this > community. > Sincerely, > The RootsWeb team I'm sure we'll meet elsewhere as we continue to do our genealogy. I'm on Twitter (@valoriez), IRC, Facebook, etc. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her

    01/09/2020 08:48:11
    1. [ET] Hi folks, if you need help with the list....
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Rootsweb has a nice help page now: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp Hope this helps, Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez

    04/06/2018 11:46:13
    1. [ET] Rootsweb lists are alive again!
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Hello everybody, After some months, RootsWeb mailing lists are up and running on updated software. A few things are changed, some for the better. One of the items currently being addressed is why messages from subscribers are not always going directly to the list. Sometimes these posts are being held for administrative action. This could be because the poster - although subscribed to the list - may not be registered with RootsWeb. So my advice is to register with RootsWeb. It takes only a few moments and might fix the posting issues. Instructions: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/setupmail If you had an account set up before, you can use the same email and username, but you *must* choose a new password. If you are an Ancestry member, please do not use the same password as you use there. One of the great things about registering is that you will be able to control many things about your list mail from Rootsweb without contacting the listowner. All the best, Valorie list admin -- http://about.me/valoriez

    03/26/2018 09:53:52
    1. [ET] Call for papers Computing Frontier 2012
    2. Computing Comp
    3. ### Apologies for cross-posting / multiple copies ### Call for Paper ACM conference Computing Frontier 2012 I am Glad to invite you to participate in the upcoming conference, IEEE computing Frontier 2012 The 9th ACM International Conference on Computing Frontiers May 15-17, 2012, Cagliari, Italy Sponsored by ACM SIGMICRO http://www.computingfrontiers.org The increasing complexity, performance, cost and energy efficiency needs of current and future applications require novel and innovative approaches for the design of computing systems. Boundaries between state of the art and revolutionary innovation constitute the computing frontiers that must be pushed forward to provide the support required for the advancement of science, engineering and information technology. The Computing Frontiers conference focuses on a wide spectrum of advanced technologies and radically new solutions relevant to the development of the whole spectrum of computer systems, from embedded to high-performance computing. Authors are invited to submit full papers to the main conference and Ph.D. students are invited to submit an extended abstract for a special Ph.D. forum and poster session We seek contributions on novel computing paradigms, computational models, application paradigms, computer architecture, development environments, compilers, or operating environments. Papers are solicited in, but not limited to, the following areas: · Applications, programming and performance analysis of advanced architectures · Next-generation high performance computing and systems · Accelerators: many-core, GPU, custom, reconfigurable, embedded, and hybrid · Defect- and variability-tolerant designs, dependable computing · Power and energy efficiency: architectures, compilers and algorithms · Virtualization and virtual machines · Cloud-, internet-scale, service-oriented and smart infrastructure computing · Compilers and operating systems: adaptive, run-time, and auto-tuning · System management and security · Impact of novel technology (e.g. NV memory, silicon photonics) on computing · Computational neuroscience, neuromorphic and biologically-inspired architectures · Computational aspects of intelligent systems and robotics · Reconfigurable, autonomic, organic, and self-organizing computation and systems · Interfaces and visualization for emerging applications and systems · Novel frontiers in computational science and scientific data repositories · Storing, managing, analysing, and searching large data sets (" big data ") · Sensors and sensor networks. EXTENDED DEADLINES Paper Submission Deadline January 25, 2012 Ph.D. Forum Deadline January 25, 2012 Author Notification March 7, 2012 Regards Kathiravan.T

    01/16/2012 09:09:12
    1. Re: [ET] Compiling a list of Genealogy Wikis
    2. Bruce Whealton
    3. Andrew, I wanted to announce a Wiki that I setup using Semantic MediaWiki. I noted what you had written here: > 3) Smaller genie sites, favored sites where there is just stuff going > on, and have particular and notable components And thought that my genealogy site is particularly related to that. Similar to Familypedia.wikia.org my wiki uses MediaWiki and the Semantic MediaWiki Bundle. The site is http://whealton.info/w/ Using Semantic Forms a user can enter information by filling out a form on the website. There is a link up top for "Enter New Person or Edit Existing Person." What makes this interesting so far is that this uses several Ontologies or Vocabularies that were developed specifically for the Semantic Web. These vocabularies Extend the popular FOAF vocabulary that people use to create "FOAF Profiles." One vocabulary used is "RELATIONSHIP: A vocabulary for describing relationships between people" and another is "BIO: A vocabulary for biographical information." One can read more about Bio here: http://vocab.org/bio/0.1/.html Rel: http://vocab.org/relationship/.html And FOAF: http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/ Behind the scenes the fields in the form correspond to properties in these vocabularies. I am working on publishing the data as a RDF data dump so that the data can be contributed to the Semantic Web and the Web of Linked Data. The goal of the Semantic Web is to create a global graph or global, web-wide database. Using a general scheme and common vocabularies, people anywhere in the world will be able to take advantage of this technology. That is to say that computers and computer software anywhere in the world will be able to understand what is contained in the data. This contrasts with earlier schemes for storing and sharing data where the schema for how the data was stored and described was not open, known or exposed as it were. I'd be glad to share more information. Thanks, Bruce ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf Vcard: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/brucewhealtonvcard.html Web Design and Development http://FutureWaveDesigns.com http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: genealogy-l-bounces@wikia.com [mailto:genealogy-l-bounces@wikia.com] On Behalf Of Robin Patterson Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:48 AM To: wiki-genpages@rootsweb.com Cc: genealogy-l@wikia.com Subject: Re: [Genealogy-l] [WIKI-GENPAGES] Compiling a list of genealogical wikis Andrew, you don't make it clear which category Familypedia is part of: you mention "Wikia" in group 1, but Familypedia (by far the biggest genealogy Wikia) is at present smaller than WeRelate, which you have in group 2. No matter: Familypedia.wikia.com is the largest semantic wiki about genealogy. Almost 100,000 articles, over 120,000 other pages, and over 5 million semantic property values. A large proportion of the articles and categories are copied from Wikipedia with only small additions, but there is no "notability" criterion as there is on Wikipedia, so a page can be created for any person who has ever died and (with caution) for anyone still alive. Links to all relatives can be easily created and used in various automatically-generated lists and other displays. See, for example, the dynamic page http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Born_in_New_South_Wales Familypedia was the Wiki of the Month for January 2011 on the Semantic MediaWiki website. It received an unsolicited 17-paragraph, largely favourable, review in Dick Eastman's genealogy newsletter on 11 November 2010. See its Wikipedia article for more reviews and details. Familypedia does not yet have an encouraged procedure for uploading data straight from GEDCOMs, though a few thousand articles were added that way by a contributor with some java knowledge who wrote a procedure that seemed to work. Contributors want to avoid the duplication problems that make some sites, such as Geni.com, a bit of a mess. When the methods of creating semantic properties (ideally using Semantic Forms) are a bit more refined, there will be scope for importing data from a GEDCOM under the control of its submitter, who is likely to have to answer questions such as "Is this person the same as [[xxxxx]], who is already on the database?" Contributions may be in any language, but so far only a tiny minority are not in English - a few hundred at most. Wikia provides for registered users to see the interface in their chosen language (with about 200 to choose from). Contributors need not register to create or edit pages, but there are several advantages in registering. Robin F Patterson, 88 Motuhara Road, Plimmerton, Porirua City, New Zealand http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/robin.f.patterson http://robinpatterson.multiply.com/ http://twitter.com/#!/Robin_Patterson http://genealogy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Robin_Patterson http://newzealand.wikia.com/wiki/User:Robin_Patterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Billinghurst" <andrew@billinghurst.org> To: <wiki-genpages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: [WIKI-GENPAGES] Compiling a list of genealogical wikis > Hi to all, > > I am going to give a presentation to the Genealogical Society of > Victoria, and it is loosely called "Wikis and Genealogy" or something > along those lines. > > As part of that I was looking to present those wikis that we have > been using, and to look to clump then into three broad categories, > these being: > > 1) Those big sites that are wikis, and including the Wikimedia > Foundations, Wikia, ... > 2) The main genie sites that are using wiki technology, and this > would include familysearch.org; werelate.org; > yourarchives.nationalarchive,gov,uk ... > 3) Smaller genie sites, favoured sites where there is just stuff > going on, and have particular and notable components > > I am especially after people's contributions in the second and third > categories if people would be so kind. > > At this point in time I can going to build the page at Wikiversity, > http://en.wikiversity.org/ > as it seems closest to their scope though in my user space as some at > that site can be a little contrary. When it gets a good framework to > it, I will let people know about it, and you can chip away at it, and > hopefully then have a more dynamic listing of such sites. > > My aim is to see if I can build and take a presentation-like approach > within the framework of a wiki, rather than to do death by > PowerPoint. That bit I am not sure how it will go, though wish me > luck. :-) I can always use PPT if all else fails. > > Thanks ahead of time for any contributions. > > Regards, Andrew > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIKI-GENPAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3804 - Release Date: 08/01/11 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf Vcard: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/brucewhealtonvcard.html Web Design and Development http://FutureWaveDesigns.com http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf Vcard: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/brucewhealtonvcard.html Web Design and Development http://FutureWaveDesigns.com http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    08/04/2011 12:52:25
    1. [ET] radicalcartography
    2. I found this webpage for Radical Cartography very interesting. Surf it, there's a lot to learn here about using cartographical techniques in displaying family history. The rest are just fun. http://www.radicalcartography.net/index.html?9thcensus John Wylie

    03/19/2010 03:43:23
    1. Re: [ET] EMERGINGTECH Digest, Vol 3, Issue 16
    2. Blake M. Stough
    3. The best thing to do is watch the video on their website (www.googlewave.com). It is explained there much better than I can. It's basically a cross between email and instant messaging, a project collaboration tool, and so so much more. Blake On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:04 AM, kay mcchesney <joay1@frontiernet.net> wrote: What is  it, i don't understand it

    11/16/2009 04:16:07
    1. Re: [ET] EMERGINGTECH Digest, Vol 3, Issue 16
    2. kay mcchesney
    3. What is it, i don't understand it ----- Original Message ----- From: <emergingtech-request@rootsweb.com> To: <emergingtech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:01 AM Subject: EMERGINGTECH Digest, Vol 3, Issue 16 > > > Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. > For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as > individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want > your digest in MIME, please write me directly: > EmergingTech-admin@rootsweb.com > > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > > ******* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html > List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech > ******* > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: New wave for you to test stuff on (Valorie Zimmerman) > 2. Re: New wave for you to test stuff on (Blake M. Stough) > 3. Re: New wave for you to test stuff on (Valorie Zimmerman) > 4. Re: New wave for you to test stuff on (Blake M. Stough) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:53:15 -0800 > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on > To: emergingtech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <3081c4410911141853p607fb814ocf4d9f589dd14794@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks so much for the answers to my questions, Blake. I've made my > wave public, using the first option. Is it really true that list > members with no Gwave accounts will not be even able to VIEW the wave? > > That sucks a bit. > > Valorie > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Valorie >> >> For someone to see your wave you need to add them as a participant. >> Please add me at your convenience: stauchistory@googlewave.com. To add >> someone to a wave, click the + above the wave and select someone from >> your contact list. You can also make a wave public by adding >> public@appspot.com or public@a.gwave.com as a participant (after >> adding them to your contacts). The second one I listed disappears from >> the contact list at times, due to this being a test version of Wave.If >> you make a wave public ANYONE can see it and participate. >> >> Non "subscribed" people cannot see or participate to a wave unless it is >> public. >> >> People who do not have a Wave account cannot access Wave messages at all. >> >> Blake M. Stough >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >> <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I've created a new wave for us to use to test stuff out on. If I read >>> Tamura Jone's instructions correctly, the address of that wave is >>> googlewave.com!w+WVpnd31QA. You are all welcome to reply to it, >>> although you may have to add me as one of your contacts first. My >>> Gwave address is valorie.zimmerman@googlewave.com, but my gmail will >>> work also, I think. >>> >>> I would be interested to know if non-subscribed people can add to the >>> wave (non-subbed to the wave, I mean). I would also like to know if >>> you can post to it if you aren't one of my contacts, so someone who >>> hasn't added me yet please try. >>> >>> Also, can someone who is NOT registered with gwave at all, try to >>> reply to my preliminary post? >>> >>> Valorie >>> >>> PS: gwave=googlewave > -- > New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ > Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . > All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:03:03 -0500 > From: "Blake M. Stough" <stauchistory@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on > To: emergingtech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <dc1e56970911141903h7b971d72g53b844edf31dd041@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > No, you need a Wave account to access Wave. Since this is still in the > development phase, it may be different when it's complete, but I am > doubting it. (I may be wrong). > > BTW, I'm not sure the wave you started is public, as I tried to access > it again through the address you gave, but it told me I wasn't a > participant. Did you add one of the address I gave before to your > contacts, and then add that to the wave? > > Blake > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thanks so much for the answers to my questions, Blake. I've made my >> wave public, using the first option. Is it really true that list >> members with no Gwave accounts will not be even able to VIEW the wave? >> >> That sucks a bit. >> >> Valorie > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:05:24 -0800 > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on > To: emergingtech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <3081c4410911141905j75c502d9re4892f71a3dac037@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Yes, exactly. I added "public@appspot.com" to my contacts, and then to my > wave. > > ::sigh:: > > I see no other way to make it Public. That needs fixing! > > Valorie > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com> > wrote: >> No, you need a Wave account to access Wave. Since this is still in the >> development phase, it may be different when it's complete, but I am >> doubting it. (I may be wrong). >> >> BTW, I'm not sure the wave you started is public, as I tried to access >> it again through the address you gave, but it told me I wasn't a >> participant. Did you add one of the address I gave before to your >> contacts, and then add that to the wave? >> >> Blake >> >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >> <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Thanks so much for the answers to my questions, Blake. I've made my >>> wave public, using the first option. Is it really true that list >>> members with no Gwave accounts will not be even able to VIEW the wave? >>> >>> That sucks a bit. >>> >>> Valorie > > -- > New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ > Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . > All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:07:18 -0500 > From: "Blake M. Stough" <stauchistory@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on > To: emergingtech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <dc1e56970911141907j76283dacmf679216a25209a69@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Add me to that wave the next time you get on and I'll give it a shot. > Maybe the link you gave is incorrect???? > > Blake > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: >> Yes, exactly. I added "public@appspot.com" to my contacts, and then to my >> wave. >> >> ::sigh:: >> >> I see no other way to make it Public. That needs fixing! >> >> Valorie >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> No, you need a Wave account to access Wave. Since this is still in the >>> development phase, it may be different when it's complete, but I am >>> doubting it. (I may be wrong). >>> >>> BTW, I'm not sure the wave you started is public, as I tried to access >>> it again through the address you gave, but it told me I wasn't a >>> participant. Did you add one of the address I gave before to your >>> contacts, and then add that to the wave? >>> >>> Blake >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >>> <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Thanks so much for the answers to my questions, Blake. I've made my >>>> wave public, using the first option. Is it really true that list >>>> members with no Gwave accounts will not be even able to VIEW the wave? >>>> >>>> That sucks a bit. >>>> >>>> Valorie >> >> -- >> New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ >> Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . >> All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com >> >> ******* >> Information for list members: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html >> List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the EMERGINGTECH list administrator, send an email to > EMERGINGTECH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the EMERGINGTECH mailing list, send an email to > EMERGINGTECH@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of EMERGINGTECH Digest, Vol 3, Issue 16 > *******************************************

    11/16/2009 03:04:11
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. Blake M. Stough
    3. Add me to that wave the next time you get on and I'll give it a shot. Maybe the link you gave is incorrect???? Blake On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, exactly. I added "public@appspot.com" to my contacts, and then to my wave. > > ::sigh:: > > I see no other way to make it Public. That needs fixing! > > Valorie > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com> wrote: >> No, you need a Wave account to access Wave. Since this is still in the >> development phase, it may be different when it's complete, but I am >> doubting it. (I may be wrong). >> >> BTW, I'm not sure the wave you started is public, as I tried to access >> it again through the address you gave, but it told me I wasn't a >> participant. Did you add one of the address I gave before to your >> contacts, and then add that to the wave? >> >> Blake >> >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >> <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Thanks so much for the answers to my questions, Blake. I've made my >>> wave public, using the first option. Is it really true that list >>> members with no Gwave accounts will not be even able to VIEW the wave? >>> >>> That sucks a bit. >>> >>> Valorie > > -- > New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ > Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . > All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com > > ******* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html > List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/14/2009 03:07:18
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. Blake M. Stough
    3. No, you need a Wave account to access Wave. Since this is still in the development phase, it may be different when it's complete, but I am doubting it. (I may be wrong). BTW, I'm not sure the wave you started is public, as I tried to access it again through the address you gave, but it told me I wasn't a participant. Did you add one of the address I gave before to your contacts, and then add that to the wave? Blake On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks so much for the answers to my questions, Blake. I've made my > wave public, using the first option. Is it really true that list > members with no Gwave accounts will not be even able to VIEW the wave? > > That sucks a bit. > > Valorie

    11/14/2009 03:03:03
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Yes, exactly. I added "public@appspot.com" to my contacts, and then to my wave. ::sigh:: I see no other way to make it Public. That needs fixing! Valorie On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com> wrote: > No, you need a Wave account to access Wave. Since this is still in the > development phase, it may be different when it's complete, but I am > doubting it. (I may be wrong). > > BTW, I'm not sure the wave you started is public, as I tried to access > it again through the address you gave, but it told me I wasn't a > participant. Did you add one of the address I gave before to your > contacts, and then add that to the wave? > > Blake > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thanks so much for the answers to my questions, Blake. I've made my >> wave public, using the first option. Is it really true that list >> members with no Gwave accounts will not be even able to VIEW the wave? >> >> That sucks a bit. >> >> Valorie -- New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com

    11/14/2009 12:05:24
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Thanks so much for the answers to my questions, Blake. I've made my wave public, using the first option. Is it really true that list members with no Gwave accounts will not be even able to VIEW the wave? That sucks a bit. Valorie On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com> wrote: > Valorie > > For someone to see your wave you need to add them as a participant. > Please add me at your convenience: stauchistory@googlewave.com. To add > someone to a wave, click the + above the wave and select someone from > your contact list. You can also make a wave public by adding > public@appspot.com or public@a.gwave.com as a participant (after > adding them to your contacts). The second one I listed disappears from > the contact list at times, due to this being a test version of Wave.If > you make a wave public ANYONE can see it and participate. > > Non "subscribed" people cannot see or participate to a wave unless it is public. > > People who do not have a Wave account cannot access Wave messages at all. > > Blake M. Stough > > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: >> I've created a new wave for us to use to test stuff out on. If I read >> Tamura Jone's instructions correctly, the address of that wave is >> googlewave.com!w+WVpnd31QA. You are all welcome to reply to it, >> although you may have to add me as one of your contacts first. My >> Gwave address is valorie.zimmerman@googlewave.com, but my gmail will >> work also, I think. >> >> I would be interested to know if non-subscribed people can add to the >> wave (non-subbed to the wave, I mean). I would also like to know if >> you can post to it if you aren't one of my contacts, so someone who >> hasn't added me yet please try. >> >> Also, can someone who is NOT registered with gwave at all, try to >> reply to my preliminary post? >> >> Valorie >> >> PS: gwave=googlewave -- New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com

    11/14/2009 11:53:15
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. I have invitations too. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com>wrote: > Valorie > > For someone to see your wave you need to add them as a participant. > Please add me at your convenience: stauchistory@googlewave.com. To add > someone to a wave, click the + above the wave and select someone from > your contact list. You can also make a wave public by adding > public@appspot.com or public@a.gwave.com as a participant (after > adding them to your contacts). The second one I listed disappears from > the contact list at times, due to this being a test version of Wave.If > you make a wave public ANYONE can see it and participate. > > Non "subscribed" people cannot see or participate to a wave unless it is > public. > > People who do not have a Wave account cannot access Wave messages at all. > > Blake M. Stough > > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've created a new wave for us to use to test stuff out on. If I read > > Tamura Jone's instructions correctly, the address of that wave is > > googlewave.com!w+WVpnd31QA. You are all welcome to reply to it, > > although you may have to add me as one of your contacts first. My > > Gwave address is valorie.zimmerman@googlewave.com, but my gmail will > > work also, I think. > > > > I would be interested to know if non-subscribed people can add to the > > wave (non-subbed to the wave, I mean). I would also like to know if > > you can post to it if you aren't one of my contacts, so someone who > > hasn't added me yet please try. > > > > Also, can someone who is NOT registered with gwave at all, try to > > reply to my preliminary post? > > > > Valorie > > > > PS: gwave=googlewave > > -- > > New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ > > Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . > > All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com > > > > ******* > > Information for list members: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html > > List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ******* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html > List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/14/2009 07:49:29
    1. Re: [ET] Google Wave and genealogy
    2. Cheryl Rothwell
    3. Maybe it is like the Wii I installed today -- helps if you are 20 instead of quite bit older. <g> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Cheryl Rothwell > <historysleuth@gmail.com> wrote: > > I haven't gotten it figured out either. One of the issues I see is any > user > > can alter the information -- like a wiki. That can be good but it can be > > bad. If you don't know the person who altered it how do you know it is > > correct info. And it has elements of IMs. It appears more geared to > > planning events -- competing with Outlook in some ways there -- than > > genealogy. However, I have an account and I will give it a whirl. > > Part or all of a wave can be locked, and the parts which have changed > can be seen in a timeline. > > While it can be used to plan an event, it can also be used to plan, > carry out and report on an entire project. I think that's the ultimate > power -- so much can be brought in. > > > I don't find it to be intuitive. > > I think part of that is how young it is, and also that it's a bit > beyond anything that any of us are used to. Since it seems to have a > lot of potential, we'll have to see how it goes. I'm optimistic, and > want to give it a good whirl. > > ::snip old:: > > Valorie > -- > New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ > Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . > All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com > > > ******* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html > List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/14/2009 07:08:19
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. John Swallow
    3. Thanks but as I am very busy right now will await an invite to appear. I keep an eye on things though! 2009/11/14 Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > One more note on the invites -- I've read a few places that those of > us who got invites directly from Google, have invitations to pass > along. Those whom we invite, do not yet have any invitations to > extend. > > So if you were one of the 100K invited by Google, you DO have > invitations -- look in your waves, and an invitation wave will be in > your inbox. If you were invited by a friend, you don't have any yet. > Whether or not or when more invitations will be extended all depends > on Google -- they don't like to over-load their server capacity. > Remember how long Gmail stayed in beta? > > Valorie - still with 18 invites left. Please request by private email. > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:13 AM, John Swallow <swallow.john@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I have watched the video and I am convinced that this emerging facility > meet > > a lot of requirements that allow it to be an improvement on say, > Facebook, > > which I do not like. > > > > I too have similar reservations to yours when conducting Fam > Histy/Genealogy > > discussions. For example I have a Hertfordshire SWALLOW Forum set up and > > have about 20 subscribers. Anything being found re SWALLOW in London and > > the Home Counties gets broadcast to the forum, often with a question > > embedded. Three weeks later a reply might come in. If I am lucky, with > a > > family group reference number attached, allowing me to find my outward > > broadcast email, quickly. Gwave might better resolve that question. > > > > I thought that it was possible to lock down the outward message so that > it > > can be commented on but not changed. We don't want the outcome of poor > > research to be embedded inside good research documents! > > > > I have not received my invitation to join yet but this might be because > they > > have to control the numbers up and running at this stage. > > > > Researching SWALLOW and MALLINDER > > > > > > 2009/11/14 Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > > > >> I've created a new wave for us to use to test stuff out on. If I read > >> Tamura Jone's instructions correctly, the address of that wave is > >> googlewave.com!w+WVpnd31QA. You are all welcome to reply to it, > >> although you may have to add me as one of your contacts first. My > >> Gwave address is valorie.zimmerman@googlewave.com, but my gmail will > >> work also, I think. > >> > >> I would be interested to know if non-subscribed people can add to the > >> wave (non-subbed to the wave, I mean). I would also like to know if > >> you can post to it if you aren't one of my contacts, so someone who > >> hasn't added me yet please try. > >> > >> Also, can someone who is NOT registered with gwave at all, try to > >> reply to my preliminary post? > >> > >> Valorie > >> > >> PS: gwave=googlewave > > -- > New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ > Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . > All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com > > > ******* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html > List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- John Swallow, (s0022) Bristol, England One-name studies of MALLINDER (FGN mNNNN) and SWALLOW (FGN sNNNN) Visit The Society of Genealogists at www.sog.org.uk for significant research resources Guild of One-name Studies mem No 3467 Derbyshire FHS mem No 5569 Hertfordshire FHS Mem No 3839

    11/14/2009 03:14:38
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. Blake M. Stough
    3. Valorie For someone to see your wave you need to add them as a participant. Please add me at your convenience: stauchistory@googlewave.com. To add someone to a wave, click the + above the wave and select someone from your contact list. You can also make a wave public by adding public@appspot.com or public@a.gwave.com as a participant (after adding them to your contacts). The second one I listed disappears from the contact list at times, due to this being a test version of Wave.If you make a wave public ANYONE can see it and participate. Non "subscribed" people cannot see or participate to a wave unless it is public. People who do not have a Wave account cannot access Wave messages at all. Blake M. Stough On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: > I've created a new wave for us to use to test stuff out on. If I read > Tamura Jone's instructions correctly, the address of that wave is > googlewave.com!w+WVpnd31QA. You are all welcome to reply to it, > although you may have to add me as one of your contacts first. My > Gwave address is valorie.zimmerman@googlewave.com, but my gmail will > work also, I think. > > I would be interested to know if non-subscribed people can add to the > wave (non-subbed to the wave, I mean). I would also like to know if > you can post to it if you aren't one of my contacts, so someone who > hasn't added me yet please try. > > Also, can someone who is NOT registered with gwave at all, try to > reply to my preliminary post? > > Valorie > > PS: gwave=googlewave > -- > New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ > Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . > All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com > > ******* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html > List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/14/2009 01:15:51
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. John Swallow
    3. I have watched the video and I am convinced that this emerging facility meet a lot of requirements that allow it to be an improvement on say, Facebook, which I do not like. I too have similar reservations to yours when conducting Fam Histy/Genealogy discussions. For example I have a Hertfordshire SWALLOW Forum set up and have about 20 subscribers. Anything being found re SWALLOW in London and the Home Counties gets broadcast to the forum, often with a question embedded. Three weeks later a reply might come in. If I am lucky, with a family group reference number attached, allowing me to find my outward broadcast email, quickly. Gwave might better resolve that question. I thought that it was possible to lock down the outward message so that it can be commented on but not changed. We don't want the outcome of poor research to be embedded inside good research documents! I have not received my invitation to join yet but this might be because they have to control the numbers up and running at this stage. Researching SWALLOW and MALLINDER 2009/11/14 Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > I've created a new wave for us to use to test stuff out on. If I read > Tamura Jone's instructions correctly, the address of that wave is > googlewave.com!w+WVpnd31QA. You are all welcome to reply to it, > although you may have to add me as one of your contacts first. My > Gwave address is valorie.zimmerman@googlewave.com, but my gmail will > work also, I think. > > I would be interested to know if non-subscribed people can add to the > wave (non-subbed to the wave, I mean). I would also like to know if > you can post to it if you aren't one of my contacts, so someone who > hasn't added me yet please try. > > Also, can someone who is NOT registered with gwave at all, try to > reply to my preliminary post? > > Valorie > > PS: gwave=googlewave > -- > New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ > Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . > All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com > > ******* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/EmergingTech.html > List wiki: http://emergingtech.pbwiki.com/EmergingTech > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EMERGINGTECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- John Swallow, (s0022) Bristol, England One-name studies of MALLINDER (FGN mNNNN) and SWALLOW (FGN sNNNN) Visit The Society of Genealogists at www.sog.org.uk for significant research resources Guild of One-name Studies mem No 3467 Derbyshire FHS mem No 5569 Hertfordshire FHS Mem No 3839

    11/14/2009 01:13:50
    1. Re: [ET] New wave for you to test stuff on
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. One more note on the invites -- I've read a few places that those of us who got invites directly from Google, have invitations to pass along. Those whom we invite, do not yet have any invitations to extend. So if you were one of the 100K invited by Google, you DO have invitations -- look in your waves, and an invitation wave will be in your inbox. If you were invited by a friend, you don't have any yet. Whether or not or when more invitations will be extended all depends on Google -- they don't like to over-load their server capacity. Remember how long Gmail stayed in beta? Valorie - still with 18 invites left. Please request by private email. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:13 AM, John Swallow <swallow.john@gmail.com> wrote: > I have watched the video and I am convinced that this emerging facility meet > a lot of requirements that allow it to be an improvement on say, Facebook, > which I do not like. > > I too have similar reservations to yours when conducting Fam Histy/Genealogy > discussions. For example I have a Hertfordshire SWALLOW Forum set up and > have about 20 subscribers.  Anything being found re SWALLOW in London and > the Home Counties gets broadcast to the forum, often with a question > embedded.  Three weeks later a reply might come in.  If I am lucky, with a > family group reference number attached, allowing me to find my outward > broadcast email, quickly.  Gwave might better resolve that question. > > I thought that it was possible to lock down the outward message so that it > can be commented on but not changed.  We don't want the outcome of poor > research to be embedded inside good research documents! > > I have not received my invitation to join yet but this might be because they > have to control the numbers up and running at this stage. > > Researching SWALLOW and MALLINDER > > > 2009/11/14 Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > >> I've created a new wave for us to use to test stuff out on. If I read >> Tamura Jone's instructions correctly, the address of that wave is >> googlewave.com!w+WVpnd31QA. You are all welcome to reply to it, >> although you may have to add me as one of your contacts first. My >> Gwave address is valorie.zimmerman@googlewave.com, but my gmail will >> work also, I think. >> >> I would be interested to know if non-subscribed people can add to the >> wave (non-subbed to the wave, I mean). I would also like to know if >> you can post to it if you aren't one of my contacts, so someone who >> hasn't added me yet please try. >> >> Also, can someone who is NOT registered with gwave at all, try to >> reply to my preliminary post? >> >> Valorie >> >> PS: gwave=googlewave -- New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com

    11/13/2009 06:53:25
    1. [ET] Citing waves -- better than email?
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Tamura Jones has another interesting article about waves, comparing the usefulness of email, webpages, and waves, when it comes to citing them in research studies. Citing Waves: http://www.tamurajones.net/GeneaWaveCitingWaves.xhtml Valorie -- New! http://genealogy-uki.linkpendium.com/ Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez . All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com

    11/13/2009 06:47:02
    1. Re: [ET] Google Wave and genealogy
    2. Ray Hennessy
    3. Sorry to be so-o-o-o non-technical, folks, but what does this all mean? Googlewave?? What are the "advantages" of communicating with someone through Wave beyond all the other methods now flooding the net?? Ray H 2009/11/13 Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com>: > Valerie > > To communicate with someone through Wave, you need to add someone to > communicate with. This is easy once you add someone to your contacts. > You can also make a wave public meaning anyone can see it and > participate. I have found some great waves and websites that explain > everything very nicely. > > My Wave address is: > > stauchistory@googlewave.com > > Feel free to add me and send me something. I will be back on my > computer shortly. > > I also know someone from the local newspaper who is looking for an > invitation. I wasn't given any to send out so I can't help him. If you > would like to share one with him I can send his address. > > Blake M. Stough > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 13, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com >  > wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Blake M. Stough <stauchistory@gmail.com >> > wrote: >>> I'm new to the list, but wanted to get started with a topic I have >>> been thinking about lately: Google Wave and Genealogy. I received my >>> Wave invitation a few days ago and have been trying it out. I have >>> already found some public genealogy related waves that I have >>> participated in. >>> >>> I would like to create a wave focused on the history and genealogy >>> wave for the county where most of my research is based. I think it >>> would be a great and easy way to share information and collaborate >>> with other researchers, but it is not without its drawbacks. A few >>> drawbacks I see are the limit placed on the amount of blips within a >>> wave, and the fact that ANYONE participating in the wave can change >>> or >>> delete anything else that was posted. >>> >>> I'm curious what others think about Wave and genealogy, both positive >>> and negative. >>> >>> Thank you very much. >>> >>> Blake M. Stough >> >> Hi Blake! I've gotten my invitation to GWave, but don't really know >> what to do with it. I assume we need to be linked somehow to >> participate together in a Wave -- can you tell us how one does that? I >> watched the hour video back when it was introduced, but don't remember >> any details. >> >> I have invites available, if anyone on the list wants one. >> >> This should be interesting! >> >> Valorie

    11/13/2009 04:34:48