In a message dated 1/8/99 7:02:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << In my Records i am have a Richard Ellis and a Richard Ellis Jr., Richard Ellis was born Sept. 25, 1746 in Albermarle Parish Surry and Sussex Co., VA, Richard Jr. was born abt 1794 we think in NC. Do these Fit? Vanessa >> Thanks for the info! Could you tell me more about Richard ELLIS Sr.? Was Albemarle Co formed from Surry or Sussex Co? Have to check my formation charts. Richard might be the clue to solve our Bartlett ELLIS b. abt 1738 Hanover & he moved to Albemarle Co VA. Since this Richard in my post appears related to Dudley Brown ELLIS, there might be poss. Richard is also related to our Bartlett ELLIS as brothers or cousins????- Debbie Malec [email protected]