Bill, I would love to see what you have before Rowland in Wales. I have names and some approximate birth dates and spouses, but that is it. I am really just getting started on this and so far primarily have sent through the family info. Sherrie In a message dated 1/20/1 5:28:49 AM, billsimp@concentric.net writes: << Thomas is not the first generation here. His parents are: Rowland Ellis born Circa 1650,Bryn Mawr, Dyffrydan, Merionethshire, Wales died September 1731, Gwynedd, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. married Margaret Verch Robert Humphrey, born Bef. 1650, Dyffryddan, Merionethshire, Wales, died October 1731, Plymouth, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. both are buried in the Plymouth Friends Cem. >>