My father in England was looking into the DNA test. -------Original Message------- From: Allen Elliott Date: 02/07/07 02:33:04 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? These comments from The Elliott (And Border Reivers) DNA Project as well as subsequent research regarding Haplogroup 1Ra, are as best I know the potential where abouts of my ancestors. "Your haplogroup is pretty clearly I1a - which is a subset or "subclade" of the overall haplogroup I. Judging from the geographical distribution of your closest matches in both the Family Tree DNA database and the international Y chromosome database at www.yhrd.org, your ancestors could have been Angles, Normans or Vikings. There were unlikely to have been native Britons. There was a group of Elliotts from Cornwall who spelled their name "Eliot". They were apparently unrelated to the Scottish Elliotts, and legend has it that they were descended from a Norman knight named William de Aliot. Your DNA signature would have been a very respectable one for a Norman. I noticed the mention of Devon and Somerset, which are adjacent to Cornwall, where the Eliots reputedly originated. Your DNA results are pretty clearly I1a. I wouldn't bother getting SNP-tested through Family Tree DNA, as they would only be able to tell you that you belong the overall "I" haplogroup - and that is already very obvious. I1a in Southern England could have many sources. The largest group of the early Puritans came from East Anglia, which was settled mostly by Angles and, later, by Danes. Also many Flemish settled in East Anglia in the late middle ages. The Y-chromosome haplogroup compositions of East Anglia and Denmark are virtually identical. Then, of course, there is the theory of a Norman origin for the Eliots of Southwest England. Not all Normans were descended from Vikings, but many were, and your haplotype could easily be of Norwegian origin - not directly, but by way of Normandy. There are, in fact, many Scots of Viking descent as well. There were also many Vikings and half-Viking, half-Gaelic settlers in Northwest England and in Galloway - both areas near where the Scottish Elliotts originated. There are actually two other Elliotts in my group with I1a signatures. The closest to you is only a 9/12 match unfortunately. Both of these Elliotts are from England too, but at least one of them claims a fairly detailed pedigree leading back to Newcastleton in the Scottish Borders. The main reason why I suggested that your Elliotts might be of Southern English origin, beyond your DNA signature, is the fact that they settled in Massachusetts in the 1600's." Has any male of your Tree had their DNA tested? It would be very helpful in the research for Elliotts in England. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of COLIN ELLIOTT Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? Allen, Where in East Anglia did you have family? Ours were around Necton. Colin -------Original Message------- From: Allen Elliott Date: 02/06/07 12:53:47 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? I am watch this thread with great interest, ever since my DNA tests show my line coming from southern England such as East Anglia. That DNA test appears to have more to do with Nordic/Viking ancestors than with the Border Revivers of Scotland. My line begins with Daniel Elliott, whose son testified at the Salem Witch Trials. The "Holy Grail" of my Elliotts is to find out where in England, Daniel started his journey to New England. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Turner Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 05:18 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? Hi Dennis. Forgive me for butting in but you have Elliotts from London, Eng. l have a connection to London with the Stathams. My Elliotts are in Bucks but l do keep finding a few that seem connected in london but need more info here is a little of my family...... James Elliott was born in Amersham baptized 1787 in st Mary's Amersham, Bucks He married Mary Statham 1811 in Saint Giles, Cripplegate, London. James was the son of William Ellet and Ann Lea. William Ellet (5x Grt Grandfather) was born abt 1746 he was baptized 1746 Amersham Married Ann Lea 1777 in st Mary's Amersham. please let me know of your Elliotts regards margaret. Castle Brom Birmingham ... ... ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elliott/6633.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2 > .1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Karen > We may be distantly related but have no firm evidence at present. > > Tony and I, who are communicating on this thread, share a great great > grandfather William Elliott born in Athlone in 1805. His children and > grandchildren lived mainly in London through the 1800's with postings > abroad as they were military people - Royal Artillery, Woolwich. > William's father was also a William, who married Maria Moyce in > Camberwell in 1803. It is this William's parents we are trying to > find, with no success at present. There is a story in Tony's family > that earlier Elliotts in the line were descended fron the Lords Minto > in the Scottish borders, and we have some info. on some of the family > moving to London - in particular a Gavin Elliott. However we cant find > the link to William yet. 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