You are developing the reputation of being "the DNA guru". Have you heard from J.C. yet? I haven't. L > [Original Message] > From: Allen Elliott <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 2/7/2007 6:44:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? > > The more we can get from that area, the better. Pls keep in touch > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of COLIN ELLIOTT > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? > > > My father in England was looking into the DNA test. > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Allen Elliott > Date: 02/07/07 02:33:04 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? > > These comments from The Elliott (And Border Reivers) DNA Project as well as > subsequent research regarding Haplogroup 1Ra, are as best I know the > potential where abouts of my ancestors. > > "Your haplogroup is pretty clearly I1a - which is a subset or "subclade" of > the overall haplogroup I. Judging from the geographical distribution of > your closest matches in both the Family Tree DNA database and the > international Y chromosome database at www.yhrd.org, your ancestors could > have been Angles, Normans or Vikings. There were unlikely to have been > native Britons. > > There was a group of Elliotts from Cornwall who spelled their name "Eliot". > They were apparently unrelated to the Scottish Elliotts, and legend has it > that they were descended from a Norman knight named William de Aliot. Your > DNA signature would have been a very respectable one for a Norman. > > I noticed the mention of Devon and Somerset, which are adjacent to Cornwall, > where the Eliots reputedly originated. > > Your DNA results are pretty clearly I1a. I wouldn't bother getting > SNP-tested through Family Tree DNA, as they would only be able to tell you > that you belong the overall "I" haplogroup - and that is already very > obvious. I1a in Southern England could have many sources. The largest > group of the early Puritans came from East Anglia, which was settled mostly > by Angles and, later, by Danes. Also many Flemish settled in East Anglia in > the late middle ages. The Y-chromosome haplogroup compositions of East > Anglia and Denmark are virtually identical. Then, of course, there is the > theory of a Norman origin for the Eliots of Southwest England. Not all > Normans were descended from Vikings, but many were, and your haplotype could > easily be of Norwegian origin - not directly, but by way of Normandy. > > There are, in fact, many Scots of Viking descent as well. There were also > many Vikings and half-Viking, half-Gaelic settlers in Northwest England and > in Galloway - both areas near where the Scottish Elliotts originated. There > are actually two other Elliotts in my group with I1a signatures. The > closest to you is only a 9/12 match unfortunately. Both of these Elliotts > are from England too, but at least one of them claims a fairly detailed > pedigree leading back to Newcastleton in the Scottish Borders. > > The main reason why I suggested that your Elliotts might be of Southern > English origin, beyond your DNA signature, is the fact that they settled in > Massachusetts in the 1600's." > > Has any male of your Tree had their DNA tested? It would be very helpful in > the research for Elliotts in England. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > >mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of COLIN ELLIOTT > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? > > > Allen, > > Where in East Anglia did you have family? > Ours were around Necton. > > Colin > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Allen Elliott > Date: 02/06/07 12:53:47 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? > > I am watch this thread with great interest, ever since my DNA tests show my > line coming from southern England such as East Anglia. That DNA test > appears to have more to do with Nordic/Viking ancestors than with the Border > Revivers of Scotland. My line begins with Daniel Elliott, whose son > testified at the Salem Witch Trials. The "Holy Grail" of my Elliotts is to > find out where in England, Daniel started his journey to New England. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > >mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > >mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Margaret Turner > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 05:18 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? > > > Hi Dennis. > > Forgive me for butting in but you have Elliotts from London, Eng. l have a > connection to London with the Stathams. My Elliotts are in Bucks but l do > keep finding a few that seem connected in london but need more info here is > a little of my family...... > > > James Elliott was born in Amersham baptized 1787 in st Mary's Amersham, > Bucks He married Mary Statham 1811 in Saint Giles, Cripplegate, London. > > James was the son of William Ellet and Ann Lea. > > William Ellet (5x Grt Grandfather) was born abt 1746 he was > > baptized 1746 Amersham > > > Married Ann Lea 1777 in st Mary's Amersham. > > please let me know of your Elliotts > > regards margaret. > > Castle Brom > > Birmingham > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > ... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Elliott] William Elliott born 1805 in athlone. - Scottish? > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: > > Classification: queries > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elliott/6633.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2 > > .1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Hi Karen > > We may be distantly related but have no firm evidence at present. > > > > Tony and I, who are communicating on this thread, share a great great > > grandfather William Elliott born in Athlone in 1805. His children and > > grandchildren lived mainly in London through the 1800's with postings > > abroad as they were military people - Royal Artillery, Woolwich. > > William's father was also a William, who married Maria Moyce in > > Camberwell in 1803. It is this William's parents we are trying to > > find, with no success at present. There is a story in Tony's family > > that earlier Elliotts in the line were descended fron the Lords Minto > > in the Scottish borders, and we have some info. on some of the family > > moving to London - in particular a Gavin Elliott. However we cant find > > the link to William yet. Keep in touch, and give us as much info as > > you can, and I will look for a link when we get further. > > > > Regards Dennis. > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To contact the ELLIOTT list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the ELLIOTT mailing list, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To contact the ELLIOTT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ELLIOTT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To contact the ELLIOTT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ELLIOTT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.27/671 - Release Date: 5/02/2007 > 4:48 PM > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To contact the ELLIOTT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ELLIOTT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To contact the ELLIOTT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ELLIOTT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.29/673 - Release Date: 6/02/2007 > 5:52 PM > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To contact the ELLIOTT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ELLIOTT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To contact the ELLIOTT list administrator, send an email to [email protected] > > To post a message to the ELLIOTT mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message