Keep it up I am enjoying reading through all your items. All is well and am working at my brothers tomorrow and then off for 2 weeks, I need the break. I am tired. Love ya M ----- Original Message ----- From: <richard2196@earthlink.net> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > Going over the ancient papers of Liddesdale-Tynes Valley-Redhough in > 1400's > and 1500's, there is also another spelling "Ellot". When the Border > clansmen were moved over to Ulster 1606 by King James, the spelling > changed > to Elliot or Elliott including their first names. Instead of being Dande > of the Cow, he became Daniel; instead of Martyn the Rychas he was known as > Martin Elliott. Linda Elliott > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Hal ELLIOTT <HELLIOTT@weber.edu> >> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 1/3/2010 1:25:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> >> The last two lines of this well-known poem are not true. >> Those with double L and double T have lived in county Fermanagh >> in Northern Ireland since the early 1600s, particularly in and around >> the town of Enniskillen. Elliotts are the 2nd or 3rd most numerous >> surnames in the county Fermanagh phone book, second only >> to Armstrongs (also from Liddesdale) and McGwyers (the original >> inhabitants). Also the single L and single T is a French surname, >> not Scottish. >> Hal Elliott (in Utah) >> >> >> >> Double L and single T >> The Elliots of Minto and Wolflee; >> Double T and single L >> The Eliotts that in Stobs do dwell; >> Single L and single t >> The Eliots of St. Germains be; >> But double L and double T >> The de'il may ken wha' they may be. >> >> >> >> >>> "Malcolm Elliot" <malcolm.elliot@tinyworld.co.uk> 1/1/2010 12:26 PM >>>> >> Chuck beat me to quoting the poem about the different spellings of the >> El(l)iot(t) name! I think there are only maybe 20% of us spelt with > single >> 't' compared to the double 't's in the UK, with single 'l' much less > common >> again. However it may also help some to know that, whereas all the other >> places named in the poem are around the Scotland/England border, the St >> Germains mentioned is in Cornwall - at the opposite end of the country, > in >> South West England! >> For those interested in geographic distribution of any surname across the >> UK, try this free website, which enables you to search by surname for > 1881 >> and 1998: >> http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/ >> For more detailed 1881 surname distribution info, I can recommend a CD > Rom - >> Archer Software's British 19th Century 'Surname Atlas'. It's based on > that >> year's Census, but shows by colour shading on a map, and numerically, >> surname distribution across the UK at that time (this may give clues as > to >> the geographic origins of names). But note that the info provided for >> Scotland is only available by County, whereas for England and Wales you > can >> also get info by Poor Law Union area (more akin to a town). Numerically, >> the totals for the different spellings registered on the 1881 UK Census >> were: >> Eliot 164 >> Eliott 323 >> Elliot 7643 >> Elliott 25398 >> My Elliot ancestors were from around Berwick-upon-Tweed, which is very > close >> to the England/Scotlandborder. A quirk of history means that although > the >> town of Berwick is nowadays in England (having changed sides many times > over >> hundreds of years), the County of Berwickshire is in Scotland. This just >> adds to the challenge and interest for us family historians, especially > if >> our families (like mine) straddle the border! If anybody else has Elliot >> ancestors in this area I'd be pleased to hear from them. >> There's more info about Elliot origins in the book by Sir Arthur Eliott >> entitled 'The Elliots - the story of a Border Clan' which I see is > available >> in paperback via the Elliot Clan website: http://www.elliotclan.com/ >> Hope this helps! >> Malcolm Elliot >> Wirral. NW England. >> >> >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:30:29 -0000 >> > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >> > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> > To: <ELLIOTT-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <1262295029.881486@rootsweb.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; >> > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> > >> > Author: chukndee >> > Surnames: Elliott, Elliot >> > Classification: queries >> > >> > Message Board URL: >> > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elliott/4437.7.1.1/mb.ashx >> > >> > Message Board Post: >> > >> > This question arises from time-to-time and the answer is both yes and > no. >> > The origin of the Elliot Clan goes back to the pre-1300's in the Angus >> > region of Glen Shee. Twelve families going by the then-spelling Elwald >> > came down to the Scottish Borders in support of Robert the Bruce in the >> > early 1300's. They settled in Liddesdale and remain there. The Elliot > Clan >> > seat is near Newcastleton (not Newcastle). >> > >> > Over the centuries over 70 spelling and pronounciation variations have >> > arisen. The name has been pronounced "Ellot" by many folks in the > Borders >> > for at least 500 years. It is believed that the double L, double T >> > spelling came from families passing though Northern Ireland (and many >> > still there) from early 1600's on. Many Elliotts seem to have moved > first >> > from Ireland to England before migrating over the pond to USA and > Canada. >> > >> > The poem about our name goes like this: >> > > >> > I suggest anyone interested in the Elliot(t) family history visit >> > www.elliotclanusa.com to get a good background. I would be happy to >> > correspond with anyone in this quest. >> > >> > Yours aye, >> > Chuck Elliott >> > chukndee@ix.netcom.com >> > >> > Important Note: >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This history is so interesting. Wish I could tie my Thomas Elliott to the Irish Elliotts mentioned here. Pat Elliott Writer - Bible Study Lessons, articles, short stories, book reviews http://rthrbrtn-patsplace.blogspot.com/ http://rthrbrtn.synthasite.com/ Write Your Life Story - Coursebridge.com Book Reviews - Bookloons.com --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> wrote: From: Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? To: richard2196@earthlink.net, elliott@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 9:00 PM Keep it up I am enjoying reading through all your items. All is well and am working at my brothers tomorrow and then off for 2 weeks, I need the break. I am tired. Love ya M ----- Original Message ----- From: <richard2196@earthlink.net> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > Going over the ancient papers of Liddesdale-Tynes Valley-Redhough in > 1400's > and 1500's, there is also another spelling "Ellot". When the Border > clansmen were moved over to Ulster 1606 by King James, the spelling > changed > to Elliot or Elliott including their first names. Instead of being Dande > of the Cow, he became Daniel; instead of Martyn the Rychas he was known as > Martin Elliott. Linda Elliott > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Hal ELLIOTT <HELLIOTT@weber.edu> >> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 1/3/2010 1:25:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> >> The last two lines of this well-known poem are not true. >> Those with double L and double T have lived in county Fermanagh >> in Northern Ireland since the early 1600s, particularly in and around >> the town of Enniskillen. Elliotts are the 2nd or 3rd most numerous >> surnames in the county Fermanagh phone book, second only >> to Armstrongs (also from Liddesdale) and McGwyers (the original >> inhabitants). Also the single L and single T is a French surname, >> not Scottish. >> Hal Elliott (in Utah) >> >> >> >> Double L and single T >> The Elliots of Minto and Wolflee; >> Double T and single L >> The Eliotts that in Stobs do dwell; >> Single L and single t >> The Eliots of St. Germains be; >> But double L and double T >> The de'il may ken wha' they may be. >> >> >> >> >>> "Malcolm Elliot" <malcolm.elliot@tinyworld.co.uk> 1/1/2010 12:26 PM >>>> >> Chuck beat me to quoting the poem about the different spellings of the >> El(l)iot(t) name! I think there are only maybe 20% of us spelt with > single >> 't' compared to the double 't's in the UK, with single 'l' much less > common >> again. However it may also help some to know that, whereas all the other >> places named in the poem are around the Scotland/England border, the St >> Germains mentioned is in Cornwall - at the opposite end of the country, > in >> South West England! >> For those interested in geographic distribution of any surname across the >> UK, try this free website, which enables you to search by surname for > 1881 >> and 1998: >> http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/ >> For more detailed 1881 surname distribution info, I can recommend a CD > Rom - >> Archer Software's British 19th Century 'Surname Atlas'. It's based on > that >> year's Census, but shows by colour shading on a map, and numerically, >> surname distribution across the UK at that time (this may give clues as > to >> the geographic origins of names). But note that the info provided for >> Scotland is only available by County, whereas for England and Wales you > can >> also get info by Poor Law Union area (more akin to a town). Numerically, >> the totals for the different spellings registered on the 1881 UK Census >> were: >> Eliot 164 >> Eliott 323 >> Elliot 7643 >> Elliott 25398 >> My Elliot ancestors were from around Berwick-upon-Tweed, which is very > close >> to the England/Scotlandborder. A quirk of history means that although > the >> town of Berwick is nowadays in England (having changed sides many times > over >> hundreds of years), the County of Berwickshire is in Scotland. This just >> adds to the challenge and interest for us family historians, especially > if >> our families (like mine) straddle the border! If anybody else has Elliot >> ancestors in this area I'd be pleased to hear from them. >> There's more info about Elliot origins in the book by Sir Arthur Eliott >> entitled 'The Elliots - the story of a Border Clan' which I see is > available >> in paperback via the Elliot Clan website: http://www.elliotclan.com/ >> Hope this helps! >> Malcolm Elliot >> Wirral. NW England. >> >> >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:30:29 -0000 >> > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >> > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> > To: <ELLIOTT-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <1262295029.881486@rootsweb.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; >> > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> > >> > Author: chukndee >> > Surnames: Elliott, Elliot >> > Classification: queries >> > >> > Message Board URL: >> > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elliott/4437.7.1.1/mb.ashx >> > >> > Message Board Post: >> > >> > This question arises from time-to-time and the answer is both yes and > no. >> > The origin of the Elliot Clan goes back to the pre-1300's in the Angus >> > region of Glen Shee. Twelve families going by the then-spelling Elwald >> > came down to the Scottish Borders in support of Robert the Bruce in the >> > early 1300's. They settled in Liddesdale and remain there. The Elliot > Clan >> > seat is near Newcastleton (not Newcastle). >> > >> > Over the centuries over 70 spelling and pronounciation variations have >> > arisen. The name has been pronounced "Ellot" by many folks in the > Borders >> > for at least 500 years. It is believed that the double L, double T >> > spelling came from families passing though Northern Ireland (and many >> > still there) from early 1600's on. Many Elliotts seem to have moved > first >> > from Ireland to England before migrating over the pond to USA and > Canada. >> > >> > The poem about our name goes like this: >> > > >> > I suggest anyone interested in the Elliot(t) family history visit >> > www.elliotclanusa.com to get a good background. I would be happy to >> > correspond with anyone in this quest. >> > >> > Yours aye, >> > Chuck Elliott >> > chukndee@ix.netcom.com >> > >> > Important Note: >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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