Pat, When and where was your Thomas around? My GGGgrandfather was Thomas Elliott, born 6 Jan 1807 in York County, PA, died 24 Apr 1879 in Elkhart County, IN. I know his father was Andrew Elliott, born UNKNOWN, died about 1823 probably in Cumberland County, PA. His widow, Elizabeth Elliott (Maiden name unknown) moved with 8 children (several grown) to Stark County, OH, in 1823. She later migrated to Northern Indiana with several of her grown children and their families. Elizabeth died 26 Apr 1844 at age 65. So far, Andrew is my stone wall. Good luck. Chuck Elliott -----Original Message----- From: elliott-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elliott-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PAT ELLIOTT Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:47 AM To: elliott@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? This history is so interesting. Wish I could tie my Thomas Elliott to the Irish Elliotts mentioned here.        Pat Elliott     Writer - Bible Study Lessons,     articles, short stories, book reviews     http://rthrbrtn-patsplace.blogspot.com/     http://rthrbrtn.synthasite.com/      Write Your Life Story - Coursebridge.com     Book Reviews - Bookloons.com --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> wrote: From: Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? To: richard2196@earthlink.net, elliott@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 9:00 PM Keep it up I am enjoying reading through all your items. All is well and am working at my brothers tomorrow and then off for 2 weeks, I need the break. I am tired. Love ya M ----- Original Message ----- From: <richard2196@earthlink.net> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > Going over the ancient papers of Liddesdale-Tynes Valley-Redhough in > 1400's > and 1500's, there is also another spelling "Ellot".  When the Border > clansmen were moved over to Ulster 1606 by King James, the spelling > changed > to Elliot or Elliott including their first names.  Instead of being Dande > of the Cow, he became Daniel; instead of Martyn the Rychas he was known as > Martin Elliott.  Linda Elliott > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Hal ELLIOTT <HELLIOTT@weber.edu> >> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 1/3/2010 1:25:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> >> The last two lines of this well-known poem are not true. >> Those with double L and double T have lived in county Fermanagh >> in Northern Ireland since the early 1600s, particularly in and around >> the town of Enniskillen.  Elliotts are the 2nd or 3rd most numerous >> surnames in the county Fermanagh phone book, second only >> to Armstrongs (also from Liddesdale) and McGwyers (the original >> inhabitants).  Also the single L and single T is a French surname, >> not Scottish. >>       Hal Elliott (in Utah) >> >> >> >> Double L and single T >> The Elliots of Minto and Wolflee; >> Double T and single L >> The Eliotts that in Stobs do dwell; >> Single L and single t >> The Eliots of St. Germains be; >> But double L and double T >> The de'il may ken wha' they may be. >> >> >> >> >>> "Malcolm Elliot" <malcolm.elliot@tinyworld.co.uk> 1/1/2010 12:26 PM >>>> >> Chuck beat me to quoting the poem about the different spellings of the >> El(l)iot(t) name!  I think there are only maybe 20% of us spelt with > single >> 't' compared to the double 't's in the UK, with single 'l' much less > common >> again.  However it may also help some to know that, whereas all the other >> places named in the poem are around the Scotland/England border, the St >> Germains mentioned is in Cornwall - at the opposite end of the country, > in >> South West England! >> For those interested in geographic distribution of any surname across the >> UK, try this free website, which enables you to search by surname for > 1881 >> and 1998: >> http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/ >> For more detailed 1881 surname distribution info, I can recommend a CD > Rom - >> Archer Software's British 19th Century 'Surname Atlas'.  It's based on > that >> year's Census, but shows by colour shading on a map, and numerically, >> surname distribution across the UK at that time (this may give clues as > to >> the geographic origins of names).  But note that the info provided for >> Scotland is only available by County, whereas for England and Wales you > can >> also get info by Poor Law Union area (more akin to a town).  Numerically, >> the totals for the different spellings registered on the 1881 UK Census >> were: >> Eliot 164 >> Eliott 323 >> Elliot 7643 >> Elliott 25398 >> My Elliot ancestors were from around Berwick-upon-Tweed, which is very > close >> to the England/Scotlandborder.  A quirk of history means that although > the >> town of Berwick is nowadays in England (having changed sides many times > over >> hundreds of years), the County of Berwickshire is in Scotland.  This just >> adds to the challenge and interest for us family historians, especially > if >> our families (like mine) straddle the border!  If anybody else has Elliot >> ancestors in this area I'd be pleased to hear from them. >> There's more info about Elliot origins in the book by Sir Arthur Eliott >> entitled 'The Elliots - the story of a Border Clan' which I see is > available >> in paperback via the Elliot Clan website:  http://www.elliotclan.com/ >> Hope this helps! >> Malcolm Elliot >> Wirral. NW England. >> >> >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:30:29 -0000 >> > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >> > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> > To: <ELLIOTT-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <1262295029.881486@rootsweb.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; >> > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> > >> > Author: chukndee >> > Surnames: Elliott, Elliot >> > Classification: queries >> > >> > Message Board URL: >> > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elliott/4437.7.1.1/mb.ashx >> > >> > Message Board Post: >> > >> > This question arises from time-to-time and the answer is both yes and > no. >> > The origin of the Elliot Clan goes back to the pre-1300's in the Angus >> > region of Glen Shee. Twelve families going by the then-spelling Elwald >> > came down to the Scottish Borders in support of Robert the Bruce in the >> > early 1300's. They settled in Liddesdale and remain there. The Elliot > Clan >> > seat is near Newcastleton (not Newcastle). >> > >> > Over the centuries over 70 spelling and pronounciation variations have >> > arisen. The name has been pronounced "Ellot" by many folks in the > Borders >> > for at least 500 years. It is believed that the double L, double T >> > spelling came from families passing though Northern Ireland (and many >> > still there) from early 1600's on. Many Elliotts seem to have moved > first >> > from Ireland to England before migrating over the pond to USA and > Canada. >> > >> > The poem about our name goes like this: >> > > >> > I suggest anyone interested in the Elliot(t) family history visit >> > www.elliotclanusa.com to get a good background. I would be happy to >> > correspond with anyone in this quest. >> > >> > Yours aye, >> > Chuck Elliott >> > chukndee@ix.netcom.com >> > >> > Important Note: >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Try Carroll,Cass,and White County IN,and give up on Andy ,go to Absalom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Elliott" <chukndee@ix.netcom.com> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? Pat, When and where was your Thomas around? My GGGgrandfather was Thomas Elliott, born 6 Jan 1807 in York County, PA, died 24 Apr 1879 in Elkhart County, IN. I know his father was Andrew Elliott, born UNKNOWN, died about 1823 probably in Cumberland County, PA. His widow, Elizabeth Elliott (Maiden name unknown) moved with 8 children (several grown) to Stark County, OH, in 1823. She later migrated to Northern Indiana with several of her grown children and their families. Elizabeth died 26 Apr 1844 at age 65. So far, Andrew is my stone wall. Good luck. Chuck Elliott -----Original Message----- From: elliott-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elliott-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PAT ELLIOTT Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:47 AM To: elliott@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? This history is so interesting. Wish I could tie my Thomas Elliott to the Irish Elliotts mentioned here. Pat Elliott Writer - Bible Study Lessons, articles, short stories, book reviews http://rthrbrtn-patsplace.blogspot.com/ http://rthrbrtn.synthasite.com/ Write Your Life Story - Coursebridge.com Book Reviews - Bookloons.com --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> wrote: From: Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? To: richard2196@earthlink.net, elliott@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 9:00 PM Keep it up I am enjoying reading through all your items. All is well and am working at my brothers tomorrow and then off for 2 weeks, I need the break. I am tired. Love ya M ----- Original Message ----- From: <richard2196@earthlink.net> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > Going over the ancient papers of Liddesdale-Tynes Valley-Redhough in > 1400's > and 1500's, there is also another spelling "Ellot". When the Border > clansmen were moved over to Ulster 1606 by King James, the spelling > changed > to Elliot or Elliott including their first names. Instead of being Dande > of the Cow, he became Daniel; instead of Martyn the Rychas he was known as > Martin Elliott. Linda Elliott > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Hal ELLIOTT <HELLIOTT@weber.edu> >> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 1/3/2010 1:25:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> >> The last two lines of this well-known poem are not true. >> Those with double L and double T have lived in county Fermanagh >> in Northern Ireland since the early 1600s, particularly in and around >> the town of Enniskillen. Elliotts are the 2nd or 3rd most numerous >> surnames in the county Fermanagh phone book, second only >> to Armstrongs (also from Liddesdale) and McGwyers (the original >> inhabitants). Also the single L and single T is a French surname, >> not Scottish. >> Hal Elliott (in Utah) >> >> >> >> Double L and single T >> The Elliots of Minto and Wolflee; >> Double T and single L >> The Eliotts that in Stobs do dwell; >> Single L and single t >> The Eliots of St. Germains be; >> But double L and double T >> The de'il may ken wha' they may be. >> >> >> >> >>> "Malcolm Elliot" <malcolm.elliot@tinyworld.co.uk> 1/1/2010 12:26 PM >>>> >> Chuck beat me to quoting the poem about the different spellings of the >> El(l)iot(t) name! I think there are only maybe 20% of us spelt with > single >> 't' compared to the double 't's in the UK, with single 'l' much less > common >> again. However it may also help some to know that, whereas all the other >> places named in the poem are around the Scotland/England border, the St >> Germains mentioned is in Cornwall - at the opposite end of the country, > in >> South West England! >> For those interested in geographic distribution of any surname across the >> UK, try this free website, which enables you to search by surname for > 1881 >> and 1998: >> http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/ >> For more detailed 1881 surname distribution info, I can recommend a CD > Rom - >> Archer Software's British 19th Century 'Surname Atlas'. It's based on > that >> year's Census, but shows by colour shading on a map, and numerically, >> surname distribution across the UK at that time (this may give clues as > to >> the geographic origins of names). But note that the info provided for >> Scotland is only available by County, whereas for England and Wales you > can >> also get info by Poor Law Union area (more akin to a town). Numerically, >> the totals for the different spellings registered on the 1881 UK Census >> were: >> Eliot 164 >> Eliott 323 >> Elliot 7643 >> Elliott 25398 >> My Elliot ancestors were from around Berwick-upon-Tweed, which is very > close >> to the England/Scotlandborder. A quirk of history means that although > the >> town of Berwick is nowadays in England (having changed sides many times > over >> hundreds of years), the County of Berwickshire is in Scotland. This just >> adds to the challenge and interest for us family historians, especially > if >> our families (like mine) straddle the border! If anybody else has Elliot >> ancestors in this area I'd be pleased to hear from them. >> There's more info about Elliot origins in the book by Sir Arthur Eliott >> entitled 'The Elliots - the story of a Border Clan' which I see is > available >> in paperback via the Elliot Clan website: http://www.elliotclan.com/ >> Hope this helps! >> Malcolm Elliot >> Wirral. NW England. >> >> >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:30:29 -0000 >> > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >> > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> > To: <ELLIOTT-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <1262295029.881486@rootsweb.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; >> > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> > >> > Author: chukndee >> > Surnames: Elliott, Elliot >> > Classification: queries >> > >> > Message Board URL: >> > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elliott/4437.7.1.1/mb.ashx >> > >> > Message Board Post: >> > >> > This question arises from time-to-time and the answer is both yes and > no. >> > The origin of the Elliot Clan goes back to the pre-1300's in the Angus >> > region of Glen Shee. Twelve families going by the then-spelling Elwald >> > came down to the Scottish Borders in support of Robert the Bruce in the >> > early 1300's. They settled in Liddesdale and remain there. The Elliot > Clan >> > seat is near Newcastleton (not Newcastle). >> > >> > Over the centuries over 70 spelling and pronounciation variations have >> > arisen. The name has been pronounced "Ellot" by many folks in the > Borders >> > for at least 500 years. It is believed that the double L, double T >> > spelling came from families passing though Northern Ireland (and many >> > still there) from early 1600's on. Many Elliotts seem to have moved > first >> > from Ireland to England before migrating over the pond to USA and > Canada. >> > >> > The poem about our name goes like this: >> > > >> > I suggest anyone interested in the Elliot(t) family history visit >> > www.elliotclanusa.com to get a good background. I would be happy to >> > correspond with anyone in this quest. >> > >> > Yours aye, >> > Chuck Elliott >> > chukndee@ix.netcom.com >> > >> > Important Note: >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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what a minute....Chuck, you have an Andrew who died about 1823? I'm looking for my Thomas' brother named Andrew. Thomas died about 1818 and was the middle brother probably Andrew younger. Have I talked to you about my Elliott line before? Supposedly, he and brothers were in PA after arrival and then they moved to OH to far away from Thomas to be in contact. My Thomas was in Jefferson County. His wife's supposed brother William was in Cochocton, then mine moved to Wayne/Medina. What I have been looking for is the PA community that they spent about 10 years in after arriving in the US. They arrived in PA about 1790. Sure wish you had more information about your Andrew.... This is pretty interesting stuff. thanks, vera ----- Original Message ---- From: Charles Elliott <chukndee@ix.netcom.com> To: elliott@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 1:58:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? Pat, When and where was your Thomas around? My GGGgrandfather was Thomas Elliott, born 6 Jan 1807 in York County, PA, died 24 Apr 1879 in Elkhart County, IN. I know his father was Andrew Elliott, born UNKNOWN, died about 1823 probably in Cumberland County, PA. His widow, Elizabeth Elliott (Maiden name unknown) moved with 8 children (several grown) to Stark County, OH, in 1823. She later migrated to Northern Indiana with several of her grown children and their families. Elizabeth died 26 Apr 1844 at age 65. So far, Andrew is my stone wall. Good luck. Chuck Elliott -----Original Message----- From: elliott-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elliott-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PAT ELLIOTT Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:47 AM To: elliott@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? This history is so interesting. Wish I could tie my Thomas Elliott to the Irish Elliotts mentioned here. Pat Elliott Writer - Bible Study Lessons, articles, short stories, book reviews http://rthrbrtn-patsplace.blogspot.com/ http://rthrbrtn.synthasite.com/ Write Your Life Story - Coursebridge.com Book Reviews - Bookloons.com --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> wrote: From: Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? To: richard2196@earthlink.net, elliott@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 9:00 PM Keep it up I am enjoying reading through all your items. All is well and am working at my brothers tomorrow and then off for 2 weeks, I need the break. I am tired. Love ya M ----- Original Message ----- From: <richard2196@earthlink.net> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > Going over the ancient papers of Liddesdale-Tynes Valley-Redhough in > 1400's > and 1500's, there is also another spelling "Ellot". When the Border > clansmen were moved over to Ulster 1606 by King James, the spelling > changed > to Elliot or Elliott including their first names. Instead of being Dande > of the Cow, he became Daniel; instead of Martyn the Rychas he was known as > Martin Elliott. Linda Elliott > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Hal ELLIOTT <HELLIOTT@weber.edu> >> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 1/3/2010 1:25:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> >> The last two lines of this well-known poem are not true. >> Those with double L and double T have lived in county Fermanagh >> in Northern Ireland since the early 1600s, particularly in and around >> the town of Enniskillen. Elliotts are the 2nd or 3rd most numerous >> surnames in the county Fermanagh phone book, second only >> to Armstrongs (also from Liddesdale) and McGwyers (the original >> inhabitants). Also the single L and single T is a French surname, >> not Scottish. >> Hal Elliott (in Utah) >> >> >> >> Double L and single T >> The Elliots of Minto and Wolflee; >> Double T and single L >> The Eliotts that in Stobs do dwell; >> Single L and single t >> The Eliots of St. Germains be; >> But double L and double T >> The de'il may ken wha' they may be. >> >> >> >> >>> "Malcolm Elliot" <malcolm.elliot@tinyworld.co.uk> 1/1/2010 12:26 PM >>>> >> Chuck beat me to quoting the poem about the different spellings of the >> El(l)iot(t) name! I think there are only maybe 20% of us spelt with > single >> 't' compared to the double 't's in the UK, with single 'l' much less > common >> again. However it may also help some to know that, whereas all the other >> places named in the poem are around the Scotland/England border, the St >> Germains mentioned is in Cornwall - at the opposite end of the country, > in >> South West England! >> For those interested in geographic distribution of any surname across the >> UK, try this free website, which enables you to search by surname for > 1881 >> and 1998: >> http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/ >> For more detailed 1881 surname distribution info, I can recommend a CD > Rom - >> Archer Software's British 19th Century 'Surname Atlas'. It's based on > that >> year's Census, but shows by colour shading on a map, and numerically, >> surname distribution across the UK at that time (this may give clues as > to >> the geographic origins of names). But note that the info provided for >> Scotland is only available by County, whereas for England and Wales you > can >> also get info by Poor Law Union area (more akin to a town). Numerically, >> the totals for the different spellings registered on the 1881 UK Census >> were: >> Eliot 164 >> Eliott 323 >> Elliot 7643 >> Elliott 25398 >> My Elliot ancestors were from around Berwick-upon-Tweed, which is very > close >> to the England/Scotlandborder. A quirk of history means that although > the >> town of Berwick is nowadays in England (having changed sides many times > over >> hundreds of years), the County of Berwickshire is in Scotland. This just >> adds to the challenge and interest for us family historians, especially > if >> our families (like mine) straddle the border! If anybody else has Elliot >> ancestors in this area I'd be pleased to hear from them. >> There's more info about Elliot origins in the book by Sir Arthur Eliott >> entitled 'The Elliots - the story of a Border Clan' which I see is > available >> in paperback via the Elliot Clan website: http://www.elliotclan.com/ >> Hope this helps! >> Malcolm Elliot >> Wirral. NW England. >> >> >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:30:29 -0000 >> > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >> > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? >> > To: <ELLIOTT-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <1262295029.881486@rootsweb.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; >> > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> > >> > Author: chukndee >> > Surnames: Elliott, Elliot >> > Classification: queries >> > >> > Message Board URL: >> > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elliott/4437.7.1.1/mb.ashx >> > >> > Message Board Post: >> > >> > This question arises from time-to-time and the answer is both yes and > no. >> > The origin of the Elliot Clan goes back to the pre-1300's in the Angus >> > region of Glen Shee. Twelve families going by the then-spelling Elwald >> > came down to the Scottish Borders in support of Robert the Bruce in the >> > early 1300's. They settled in Liddesdale and remain there. The Elliot > Clan >> > seat is near Newcastleton (not Newcastle). >> > >> > Over the centuries over 70 spelling and pronounciation variations have >> > arisen. The name has been pronounced "Ellot" by many folks in the > Borders >> > for at least 500 years. It is believed that the double L, double T >> > spelling came from families passing though Northern Ireland (and many >> > still there) from early 1600's on. Many Elliotts seem to have moved > first >> > from Ireland to England before migrating over the pond to USA and > Canada. >> > >> > The poem about our name goes like this: >> > > >> > I suggest anyone interested in the Elliot(t) family history visit >> > www.elliotclanusa.com to get a good background. I would be happy to >> > correspond with anyone in this quest. >> > >> > Yours aye, >> > Chuck Elliott >> > chukndee@ix.netcom.com >> > >> > Important Note: >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Does anyone have a Matthew Elliot b about 1820 place unknown, parents unknown, md Julia Marquis in 1843 in Knox Co, OH, d Harrisburg PA in 1856. Had left his family. They were notified of his death by a telegram from Sheriff of Harrisburg. Why was he in PA? Why was the sheriff involved? My grandmother who was his grandaughter, told me she thought his father was named Patrick. Anyone have anything on this Matthew, my gr gr grandfather. Jeanne Cook Walsh > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 18:03:37 -0800 > From: vjl_47@yahoo.com > To: elliott@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > > what a minute....Chuck, you have an Andrew who died about 1823? I'm looking for my Thomas' brother named Andrew. Thomas died about 1818 and was the middle brother probably Andrew younger. Have I talked to you about my Elliott line before? Supposedly, he and brothers were in PA after arrival and then they moved to OH to far away from Thomas to be in contact. My Thomas was in Jefferson County. His wife's supposed brother William was in Cochocton, then mine moved to Wayne/Medina. > > What I have been looking for is the PA community that they spent about 10 years in after arriving in the US. They arrived in PA about 1790. Sure wish you had more information about your Andrew.... > > This is pretty interesting stuff. > > thanks, > vera > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Charles Elliott <chukndee@ix.netcom.com> > To: elliott@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 1:58:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > > Pat, > When and where was your Thomas around? My GGGgrandfather was Thomas Elliott, > born 6 Jan 1807 in York County, PA, died 24 Apr 1879 in Elkhart County, IN. > I know his father was Andrew Elliott, born UNKNOWN, died about 1823 probably > in Cumberland County, PA. His widow, Elizabeth Elliott (Maiden name unknown) > moved with 8 children (several grown) to Stark County, OH, in 1823. She > later migrated to Northern Indiana with several of her grown children and > their families. Elizabeth died 26 Apr 1844 at age 65. So far, Andrew is my > stone wall. > Good luck. > Chuck Elliott > > -----Original Message----- > From: elliott-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elliott-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of PAT ELLIOTT > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:47 AM > To: elliott@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > > This history is so interesting. Wish I could tie my Thomas Elliott to the > Irish Elliotts mentioned here. > > > > Pat Elliott > Writer - Bible Study Lessons, > articles, short stories, book reviews > http://rthrbrtn-patsplace.blogspot.com/ > http://rthrbrtn.synthasite.com/ > Write Your Life Story - Coursebridge.com > Book Reviews - Bookloons.com > > --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> wrote: > > > From: Melanie Hollett <melanieh1@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > To: richard2196@earthlink.net, elliott@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 9:00 PM > > > Keep it up I am enjoying reading through all your items. All is well and am > working at my brothers tomorrow and then off for 2 weeks, I need the break. > I am tired. > Love ya > M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <richard2196@earthlink.net> > To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > > > > Going over the ancient papers of Liddesdale-Tynes Valley-Redhough in > > 1400's > > and 1500's, there is also another spelling "Ellot". When the Border > > clansmen were moved over to Ulster 1606 by King James, the spelling > > changed > > to Elliot or Elliott including their first names. Instead of being Dande > > of the Cow, he became Daniel; instead of Martyn the Rychas he was known as > > Martin Elliott. Linda Elliott > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Hal ELLIOTT <HELLIOTT@weber.edu> > >> To: <elliott@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: 1/3/2010 1:25:11 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > >> > >> The last two lines of this well-known poem are not true. > >> Those with double L and double T have lived in county Fermanagh > >> in Northern Ireland since the early 1600s, particularly in and around > >> the town of Enniskillen. Elliotts are the 2nd or 3rd most numerous > >> surnames in the county Fermanagh phone book, second only > >> to Armstrongs (also from Liddesdale) and McGwyers (the original > >> inhabitants). Also the single L and single T is a French surname, > >> not Scottish. > >> Hal Elliott (in Utah) > >> > >> > >> > >> Double L and single T > >> The Elliots of Minto and Wolflee; > >> Double T and single L > >> The Eliotts that in Stobs do dwell; > >> Single L and single t > >> The Eliots of St. Germains be; > >> But double L and double T > >> The de'il may ken wha' they may be. > >> > >> > >> > >> >>> "Malcolm Elliot" <malcolm.elliot@tinyworld.co.uk> 1/1/2010 12:26 PM > >>>> > >> Chuck beat me to quoting the poem about the different spellings of the > >> El(l)iot(t) name! I think there are only maybe 20% of us spelt with > > single > >> 't' compared to the double 't's in the UK, with single 'l' much less > > common > >> again. However it may also help some to know that, whereas all the other > >> places named in the poem are around the Scotland/England border, the St > >> Germains mentioned is in Cornwall - at the opposite end of the country, > > in > >> South West England! > >> For those interested in geographic distribution of any surname across the > >> UK, try this free website, which enables you to search by surname for > > 1881 > >> and 1998: > >> http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/ > >> For more detailed 1881 surname distribution info, I can recommend a CD > > Rom - > >> Archer Software's British 19th Century 'Surname Atlas'. It's based on > > that > >> year's Census, but shows by colour shading on a map, and numerically, > >> surname distribution across the UK at that time (this may give clues as > > to > >> the geographic origins of names). But note that the info provided for > >> Scotland is only available by County, whereas for England and Wales you > > can > >> also get info by Poor Law Union area (more akin to a town). Numerically, > >> the totals for the different spellings registered on the 1881 UK Census > >> were: > >> Eliot 164 > >> Eliott 323 > >> Elliot 7643 > >> Elliott 25398 > >> My Elliot ancestors were from around Berwick-upon-Tweed, which is very > > close > >> to the England/Scotlandborder. A quirk of history means that although > > the > >> town of Berwick is nowadays in England (having changed sides many times > > over > >> hundreds of years), the County of Berwickshire is in Scotland. This just > >> adds to the challenge and interest for us family historians, especially > > if > >> our families (like mine) straddle the border! If anybody else has Elliot > >> ancestors in this area I'd be pleased to hear from them. > >> There's more info about Elliot origins in the book by Sir Arthur Eliott > >> entitled 'The Elliots - the story of a Border Clan' which I see is > > available > >> in paperback via the Elliot Clan website: http://www.elliotclan.com/ > >> Hope this helps! > >> Malcolm Elliot > >> Wirral. NW England. > >> > >> > >> > Message: 2 > >> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:30:29 -0000 > >> > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > >> > Subject: Re: [Elliott] Is Elliott English or Scottish? > >> > To: <ELLIOTT-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Message-ID: <1262295029.881486@rootsweb.com> > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; > >> > > >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >> > > >> > Author: chukndee > >> > Surnames: Elliott, Elliot > >> > Classification: queries > >> > > >> > Message Board URL: > >> > > >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elliott/4437.7.1.1/mb.ashx > >> > > >> > Message Board Post: > >> > > >> > This question arises from time-to-time and the answer is both yes and > > no. > >> > The origin of the Elliot Clan goes back to the pre-1300's in the Angus > >> > region of Glen Shee. Twelve families going by the then-spelling Elwald > >> > came down to the Scottish Borders in support of Robert the Bruce in the > >> > early 1300's. They settled in Liddesdale and remain there. The Elliot > > Clan > >> > seat is near Newcastleton (not Newcastle). > >> > > >> > Over the centuries over 70 spelling and pronounciation variations have > >> > arisen. The name has been pronounced "Ellot" by many folks in the > > Borders > >> > for at least 500 years. It is believed that the double L, double T > >> > spelling came from families passing though Northern Ireland (and many > >> > still there) from early 1600's on. Many Elliotts seem to have moved > > first > >> > from Ireland to England before migrating over the pond to USA and > > Canada. > >> > > >> > The poem about our name goes like this: > >> > > > >> > I suggest anyone interested in the Elliot(t) family history visit > >> > www.elliotclanusa.com to get a good background. I would be happy to > >> > correspond with anyone in this quest. > >> > > >> > Yours aye, > >> > Chuck Elliott > >> > chukndee@ix.netcom.com > >> > > >> > Important Note: > >> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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