HI Jan, Your John; 1772, is an uncle of our line, and his older brother James is my 5x Great Grandfather. I have histories collected by John 1772, and one letter penned by him to our GGG grandfather. His son Henry was a partner in E & Co, and a sculptor and artist / metalurgist responsible for many stattues seen today in the streets of London. Your John's father is Joseph "the Drainer" who delivered a quantum leap in the science of drainage to English agriculture, and thereby a quantum leap to the fortunes of this branch of the family, from yeoman farmers to middle class artisans, professionals, and business people. We live on the west coast, near Victoria. You can get me directly at relks@shaw.ca. I suspect that Judy may have just picked the wrong character because the total file she has built on the family, guided by the records contributed from all branches, and then confirmed with official records, should contain at least some of the siblings you list. best regards, JR Elkington -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: December 4, 2010 8:50 AM To: ELKINGTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Completed works of Warwickshire Elkingtons [England] This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janeli_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/94.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My husband's 3X great grandfather is Dr. Francis Russell Elkington. Anna Sophia Elkington is 2X great grandmother. Next is Amy Elizabeth Orford who married George Walker Wesley Dawson. Then Hereward Francis, Hereward Graham and finally my husband James Graham Dawson. Dr Francis' parents on IGI are listed as John Elkington b abt 1774 and Mary Russell born abt 1778. John is listed as having father Joseph b abt 1739 and mother Sarah b abt 1743. I have found Sarah 1790 (must be a transcribing error ... probably 1797 parents married 1796), Mary 1798, John, 1799, John 1801, Joseph 1803, Charlotte 1805, Ester 1806, George 1808, Charles 1809, Henry 1810, and Charles James Checkley 1813. These children are all listed together as children of father John 1772 and mother Mary Russell 1775. In a couple of cases John's father Joseph 1739 and mother Sarah Webb 1738. Sometimes parents are listed as simply John and Mary. My dilemma: Francis Russell Elkington is NEVER listed as part of the family. His birth year fits nicely though. Every family tree I check has Francis as part of this family but I do know we all copy from one another. Since Francis married in 1822, census records of his parents and siblings are of no use. I live in Canada so I rely on ancestry.com and IGI records. I am hoping you can help me prove Francis fits into this family before I repost my tree. Thanks!!!!! Jan. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message