Absolutely Judy. I know I have lost one of my Tosh relatives. She is on the missing list. Not looking good. Had word from four others this morning that their families are OK. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJupar@aol.com> To: <ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [ELKINGTON] Earthquake > Dear Elkingtons, > > Please know that our hearts go out to those of you who may have friends > and > relatives in the Christchurch area. > > There is a large contingent of Elkingtons in New Zealand so please know > that we are thinking of you at this terrible time. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Elkingtons, Please know that our hearts go out to those of you who may have friends and relatives in the Christchurch area. There is a large contingent of Elkingtons in New Zealand so please know that we are thinking of you at this terrible time. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/)

Hi, Yes I have read the story. I love all of the stories on the website, it give me a sense of knowing our ancestors lives, they are not just names and dates. Kind regards, Marinomoana Ward -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2011 6:47 PM To: elkington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Reading a Will Hi, Have you read the story of your Gt.Gt.Grandfather's arrival and marriage in New Zealand. Also his death two years after his marriage from supposed seasickness. I wonder if he was poisoned or something else which led to his death. Did you know that Marara and John Ratapu Arthur were savagely attacked by a Maori. I suspect that it was because of their mixed marriage and half caste child. You can read the story on the Website _www.elkingtonfamily.com Kind Regards Judy. _ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com) www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy, Yes I am. Arthur Elkington is my Great Great Grandfather. His Son John Arthur Ratatpu Elkington is my great Grandfather. I do like reading the wills they are so interesting. It's a sort of snap shot into the lives of our ancestors. Kind regards, Marinomoana Ward -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 6:43 PM To: elkington@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Reading a Will In a message dated 16/02/2011 03:36:38 GMT Standard Time, Marinomoana.Ward@mp.wa.gov.au writes: I don't know if anyone has put their hand up to translate this Will yet, if not then I don't mind having a go. Hi Marinomoana, Thank you for your kind offer but I have now paid to have it done professionally. It is so interesting that I will possibly be putting it on the Website soon. It was so difficult top read and part of it was in Latin which I hadn't realised so it was mote difficult than I thought. May I ask if you are descended from Arthur Elkington and Marara Horomona. Kind regards JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Have you read the story of your Gt.Gt.Grandfather's arrival and marriage in New Zealand. Also his death two years after his marriage from supposed seasickness. I wonder if he was poisoned or something else which led to his death. Did you know that Marara and John Ratapu Arthur were savagely attacked by a Maori. I suspect that it was because of their mixed marriage and half caste child. You can read the story on the Website _www.elkingtonfamily.com Kind Regards Judy. _ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com)

Hi Judy, I don't know if anyone has put their hand up to translate this Will yet, if not then I don't mind having a go. Cheers, Marinomoana Ward. -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2011 11:35 PM To: Elkington@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELKINGTON] Reading a Will Hi, I have the Will of John Elkington born 1635 at Brandon in Warwickshire and dying in 1690 in Stretton-on-Dunsmore. I am having a little problem with my eyes at the moment and am mostly unable to decipher the writing. Could anyone offer their services to translate this will for me.If anyone can do this would they give permission for it to be published on the Website. Looking forward to hearing from someone. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh I say how frightfully posh! I always thought I was... You may have seen on my Elkington tree, that my mother had to give birth to a stillborn baby boy, in 1950. In those days babies who were born already dead, werent even acknowledged as having existed at all, an issue which I think poor mum never really got over. So I have included him on our trees, as I believe, through my Faith, that even though he did not draw breath in this world, he of course existed, and still does indeed, forever in the next world, and I will meet him one day. Dad told me that his firstborn boy would always have been.... William!! Hope no one finds this bizarre or upsets anyone, its just my way of paying my respects to my Big Brother. Caroline -----Original Message----- From: JJupar <JJupar@aol.com> To: elkington <elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:07 Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Reading a Will n a message dated 16/02/2011 10:55:16 GMT Standard Time, carjelk@aol.com rites: All these John and William Elkingtons are very confusing indeed! Hi Caroline, on't worry. Yes there are a lot of Johns and Williams. You should try eeping a full register of names from 1505 up to date, they are too umerous to count in Warwickshire, and that is only half the story as I have eicestershire to do next. Still it appears that we are related to the Dukes f Devonshire so some good connections somewhere. ood luck with your house move. Kinds regards JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) ww.elkingtonfamily.com ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

In a message dated 16/02/2011 10:55:16 GMT Standard Time, carjelk@aol.com writes: All these John and William Elkingtons are very confusing indeed! Hi Caroline, Don't worry. Yes there are a lot of Johns and Williams. You should try keeping a full register of names from 1505 up to date, they are too numerous to count in Warwickshire, and that is only half the story as I have Leicestershire to do next. Still it appears that we are related to the Dukes of Devonshire so some good connections somewhere. Good luck with your house move. Kinds regards JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/)

Dear Judy, I still cant download it think my pc is a little old for it... Look forward to seeing the translation. I havent had much time lately to go on with my search as we are moving house in two days so its all hands to the deck but whenever I get a spare min/have a break, I do try and keep up! All these John and William Elkingtons are very confusing indeed! love, Caroline -----Original Message----- From: Ward, Marinomoana <Marinomoana.Ward@mp.wa.gov.au> To: elkington <elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 3:36 Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Reading a Will Hi Judy, I don't know if anyone has put their hand up to translate this Will yet, if not then I don't mind having a go. Cheers, Marinomoana Ward. -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2011 11:35 PM To: Elkington@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELKINGTON] Reading a Will Hi, I have the Will of John Elkington born 1635 at Brandon in Warwickshire and dying in 1690 in Stretton-on-Dunsmore. I am having a little problem with my eyes at the moment and am mostly unable to decipher the writing. Could anyone offer their services to translate this will for me.If anyone can do this would they give permission for it to be published on the Website. Looking forward to hearing from someone. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 16/02/2011 03:36:38 GMT Standard Time, Marinomoana.Ward@mp.wa.gov.au writes: I don't know if anyone has put their hand up to translate this Will yet, if not then I don't mind having a go. Hi Marinomoana, Thank you for your kind offer but I have now paid to have it done professionally. It is so interesting that I will possibly be putting it on the Website soon. It was so difficult top read and part of it was in Latin which I hadn't realised so it was mote difficult than I thought. May I ask if you are descended from Arthur Elkington and Marara Horomona. Kind regards JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/)

Thanks Judy. Only two problems with grand children aged 11 and 12. The first is getting them into bed at night. The second is getting them up in the morning. Otherwise they are a delight and I get to see movies I would see otherwise! Hope all are well your end Best wishes, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJupar@aol.com> To: <elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Thomas W. Elkington > > In a message dated 28/01/2011 22:33:39 GMT Standard Time, > iang@grapevine.com.au writes: > > I have some detail on this family though I am not able to concentrate on > a > > response just yet. I am looking after two grandchildren for the next few > days. > > > > Hi Ian, > > Don't worry I have given our new member his answer and supplied him with a > full tree. It is just so disappointing to run a list in which hardly > anyone is interested. You actually were the one that supplied me with > the > Patmore connection. > > Hope the grandkids are behaving for you. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Judy Henry and Harry Hall are one and the same person. He died aged 24 from 24 Robert Street, on 30/12.1874 (and not on 5/1/1874, as I said in my previous email). Regards John > From: JJupar@aol.com > Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:11:32 -0500 > To: elkington@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Thomas W. Elkington > > Hi John, > > I have another child called Harry Hall Elkington born Jan 1851 in London. > He does appear in subsequent censuses. Could this be an error? I > can't see where I found him but presumed as there was already a Henry they had > him named Harry Hall Elkington. > > Kind Regards > > Judy. > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy I was sorry to read from your message to Ian that so few seem interested in the List. I can asure you that I read all the messages carefully, in the hope that I can contribute from what I have. But no one seems to ask about mine! Keep going, please. Bryan

Dear Judy I'm not sure what you mean when you say that Joseph Patmore didn't register all his children. I only have 10 children for Joseph Patmore Elkington. They are: Thomas, b. 6/12/1833, bapt. 24/12/1833, m. 28/9/1858 (Mary Ann Elton) d. 16/8/1898 Jane, b. 8/10/1835, bapt 8/11/1835, m. 19/7/1865 (James Westland) d. ? John Thompson, b. 2/11/1837, bapt. 26/11/1837, m. ? (Emily Stanton Jones), d. 1890 Joseph James, b. 2/12/1839, bapt. 16/2/1840, m. -, d. 29/2/1908 Sophia Anne, b. 1842, bapt. 6/11/1842, m. 14/4/1866 (John Hoad Vousley), d. ? Mary Ann, b. 1844, bapt. 10/7/1844, d. 12/8/1846 Catherine, b. 1847, bapt. 17/10/1847, d. 26/2/1851. Ann Emily, b. 1849, bapt. 22/7/1849, m. 2/4/1872 (Robert Fossey), d. ? Henry, b/ 1849/50, bapt. 5/1/1850, d. 5/1/1874 Frederick Hunter, b. 14/5/1853, bapt. 19/6/1853, m.(1) 1879? (Charlotte Paver); m.(2) 16/10/1898 (Alice Gertrude Hellis), d. 11/12/1924 Who was the eleventh child? Regards John > From: JJupar@aol.com > Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 06:07:03 -0500 > To: elkington@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Thomas W. Elkington > > > In a message dated 29/01/2011 08:53:21 GMT Standard Time, > j_h_elkington@hotmail.com writes: > > Thomas W Elkington was born 6 Dec 1833, baptised 24 Dec 1833, and died 16 > Aug 1898. According to my notes he married Mary Ann Elton (I don't have > the date of the marriage). His father was Joseph Patmore Elkington, whose > family tree shows an unbroken line back to Richard Elkington, born sometime > between 1505-1515. I can provide the tree if required. > > > > > > Thank you John, > > You are quite correct saying that he married Mary Elton 28 September 1858 > at Trinity Church, Grays Inn Road, London. Thomas has a very interesting > life as he was first a Baker and then moved to the Gravel Pits in Denham, > Bucks. At some point it became the Gravel Diggers Arms and was in his > family until the early 1940s. > > One thing that has been passed onto me is that Joseph Patmore didn't > register all his children. I have gathered 11 children for him with two > dying young or infants. Could you confirm this. > > Kind Regards > > Judy. > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 29/01/2011 15:27:37 GMT Standard Time, j_h_elkington@hotmail.com writes: Henry and Harry Hall are one and the same person. He died aged 24 from 24 Robert Street, on 30/12.1874 (and not on 5/1/1874, as I said in my previous email). Thank you John, I had the right death date for Henry and I was rather worried about finding another child of almost the same name. Thanks for the help. Kind Regards Judy.

Hi John, I have another child for Joseph Patmore's family called Harry Hall Elkington born in 1851. I forgot to put the source down which I usually do, so I am not sure how I found him. I have looked at FreeBMD and he is not mentioned there so he maybe a mistake on my part. Your advice would be gratefully received. Kind Regards Judy.

Hi John, I have another child called Harry Hall Elkington born Jan 1851 in London. He does appear in subsequent censuses. Could this be an error? I can't see where I found him but presumed as there was already a Henry they had him named Harry Hall Elkington. Kind Regards Judy.

Thank you Bryan, A very kind message. I shall endeavour to do my best. Kind Regards Judy.

Hello Judy, I have some detail on this family though I am not able to concentrate on a response just yet. I am looking after two grandchildren for the next few days. I would need a direct email to send details though. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJupar@aol.com> To: <ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:51 AM Subject: [ELKINGTON] Thomas W. Elkington > Hi all, > > Sorry only one person answered this query. I had hoped that some of you > would have Joseph Patmore in your tree and would know the answer. > > However as he was one of the unbaptised children of this man, perhaps > there > is an excuse. > > Thank you Relks of Canada for your reply. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thomas W Elkington was born 6 Dec 1833, baptised 24 Dec 1833, and died 16 Aug 1898. According to my notes he married Mary Ann Elton (I don't have the date of the marriage). His father was Joseph Patmore Elkington, whose family tree shows an unbroken line back to Richard Elkington, born sometime between 1505-1515. I can provide the tree if required. Regards John Elkington > From: JJupar@aol.com > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:42:45 -0500 > To: Elkington@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ELKINGTON] Thomas W. Elkington > > > > I am new to this site so am not sure if this is the correct way to ask for > information. > If it's not then please let me know the correct method. > > I am researching Thomas W Elkington born 6 dec 1833 , died 16 aug 1898. > > > Thanks > Alan > = > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message