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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: grendav2001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/102/mb.ashx Message Board Post: for elkington researchers. the marriage at st john the baptist church, greatham village, on the outskirts of then west hartlepool, on 29 june, 1941: frank elkington, aged 24, a bachelor, and a chemist. son of frank elkington, a steelworker. 70 grange road, west hartlepool. dorothy vivienne pletts, aged 24, and a spinster. daughter of harry ernest pletts, a staion master. station house, greatham village. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: grendav2001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/101/mb.ashx Message Board Post: for elkington researchers. the marriage at st john the baptist church, greatham village, on the outskirts of then west hartlepool, on 29 june, 1941: frank elkington, aged 24, a bachelor, and a chemist. son of frank elkington, a steelworker. 70 grange road, west hartlepool. dorothy vivienne pletts, aged 24, and a spinster. daughter of harry ernest pletts, a staion master. station house, greatham village. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

"All wars are planned by older men In council rooms apart, Who call for greater armament And map the battle chart. But out along the shattered field Where golden dreams turn gray, How very young the faces were Where all the dead men lay. Portly and solemn in their pride, The elders cast their vote For this or that, or something else, That sounds the martial note. But where their sightless eyes stare out Beyond life's vanished toys, I've noticed nearly all the dead Were hardly more than boys." Grantland Rice Elkington's Remembered _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Elkington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/97.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The only Edward Elkington I have born in 1893 Was married to a Florence Emily. Could you possibly get a birth certifate for him and that would give me a clue as to his parentage and occupation. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elk49 Surnames: Elkington Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/97.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My grandfather was Edward Elkington born in 1893 in East London and was a chauffeur during the Battle of the Somme stationed at Mailly Mallet in the Royal Fusiliers. He was married to Lillian Ann Hodges. Have you any information on him. My father is Edward Vernon Elkington born 7th December 1920. I would like to trace back the family tree for my son who is interested. Unfortunately my father died when I was Young so I do not have many details of his relatives. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Val Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Judy, Many thanks for the information - it all links up now. You must have worked very hard to put all this together. I left Birmingham some time ago but I know the old Science Museum in Newhall Street in the jewellery quarter. I did not know about its association with Elkington Silver. George's wife, Mary who died in 1858 was buried in Selly Oak. That is where I was born - another connection. Thanks to all your efforts you now have a direct link back to your ancestral home - Plas Newydd. All Best Wishes, Derek

Judy, I have found the missing children. There were 13 including Hilda who died shortly after she was born but three were not born at Plas Newydd. I am not writing a family history but I just want to be accurate in what I do say about the family. Where are you now, are you in Kenya? Are you in the photographs? Kind Regards, Derek Smith

In a message dated 20/08/2012 13:29:39 GMT Daylight Time, gdereksmith@gmail.com writes: Judy, I have found the missing children. There were 13 including Hilda who died shortly after she was born but three were not born at Plas Newydd. I am not writing a family history but I just want to be accurate in what I do say about the family. Where are you now, are you in Kenya? Are you in the photographs? Kind Regards, Derek Smith www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi Derek, I live in Derbyshire now. If you are interested in the Kenyan part of the family I can let you have some thing about them. I am not in any Photographs. There is a mistake in the works I sent you, it should read thirteen children under the picture. I hope you received the stuff I sent you just now. If there is anything you don't understand just ask me. Kind Regards Judy.

 Hi Judy Thank you for your help.  Yes, it is surprising to us today that our ancestors may not have known where they were born and I know that some have only known the year and month of their birth.  Writing and spelling were not high on the list of their priorities.  They didn't need it in the course of their "daily grind" which was usually manual work of some sort and with the changes in boundaries and names of locations it makes it more difficult for us to trace them. Thank you for your help.  I shall carry on. Regards & best wishes Denise Hobbs (member 5973) gossage@one-name.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JJupar@aol.com" <JJupar@aol.com> > To: goons@rootsweb.com; gossagegossage@yahoo.co.uk > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2012, 10:48 > Subject: Re: [G] 1911 Census Lancashire - birthplace ????stock, Shropshire > > In a message dated 14/08/2012 06:18:24 GMT  Daylight Time, > nick@harvardarms.org.uk writes: > Denise > > Looking at the  various census entries for Thomas GOSSAGE, it seems he > was remarkably vague  as to his birthplace. His entry in 1861 (indexed > under GOSTAGE) shows him as  1 month old both living and born in Hanmer > FLN. His birth was registered in  Q1 of that year (as Thomas Daniel > Kempster GOSTAGE) in Ellesmere District  which included various parishes > in Wales such as Hanmer. > > In 1871,  when he was still at home, his mother said he had been born in > Wrexham. I  can't immediately find him in 1881, and in 1891 the whole of > his family were  said to have been born in Liverpool. In 1901 he offered > Flintshire without  any township. > > I can't help feeling that birthplace of Hanmer FLN as given  in the 1861 > census is most likely to be correct as he was only 1 month old  and > living there with his family. By the time we reach 1911 he is 50 and  > even though we can see the actual return he filled in I think his memory  > may be faulty - for instance he says he has been married for 27 years,  > although as his (second) marriage took place in Q4 of 1889, he had in  > fact been married for only 21 years. > > Having said that I think the  suggestion that his 1911 entry was meant to > read Tilstock is probably  correct. Tilstock is in fact only about 5 > miles from Hanmer as the crow  flies. But I still don't think he was born > there. > > Nicholas  Spence > CHESSON 4108 > > > On 12/08/2012 17:52, Denise Gossage  wrote: >> I wonder if someone could help me please.  I am trying to  decipher the > birthplace of >>   >> Thomas Gossage, age 50,  Head, Married, 27 years, Dock Labourer, born > ??????ck,  Shropshire >>   >> The reference is: RG14 - PN22506 RD455  SD7 ED23 SN150.  Address: 119 > Towson St, Liverpool. >>     >> It is written in red ink and the enumerator has written the code > "270"  > over it which is Shropshire - which is already there, but I cannot read the  > village/parish.  The transcription shows it to be "Salostock" but it > looks  > as though it begins with a "T" to me.  Genuki shows a > "Tilstock" which  > seems too short. >>   >> I should be most grateful for a  fresh pair of eyes, please. >>   >> Denise Hobbs (member  5973) >> gossage@one-name.org > > > Hi, > > I think there are two  possibilities here.    The first one is that > possibly the place  he was born in  became pary of a larger area and thus > changed > its name  accordingly.  Flint was probably used because they couldn't  > understand the changing names of his birthplace. > > Secondly, perhaps he  wasn't very good at writing and this caused some > confusion in his place of  birth. > > There were still a large number of people who had little or no  knowledge > of reading or writing at the end of the 19th  century.    The only way to > find out is to send for his birth  certificate and also to look at old maps of > the area, to see how the name  possibly changed over the years. > > > > > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [North  Derbyshire] > > > GOONS  4052 > www.elkingtonfamily.com > Elkington@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html  >

This IS interesting. Thank you, Judy. Hope you're doing as well as possible. I'd love to have a copy of the list of Elkingtons. On another topic, Cecelia Setty, a subscriber to this list has written an excellent family history of her California Elkingtons within the context of a history of Napa Valley settlers. The title of the book is "The Mount Veeder Resort: A history of Napa County Settlers." What's particularly interesting is how Cecilia woven her family history into the lives of other families in the area. And, as Cecelia puts it in her Forward, "I almost made them part of my family." That's what it's all about. Impressive! Why I'm mentioning this, apart from the value of the book itself as Elkington family history -- and a good read -- is that it would be wonderful if we could fit this family into the Elkington Family Tree. Don Elkington was helping Cecelia, but he didn't quite make that link before his death. Cecelia ancestors are James Elkington (b. 1828, Coventry, Warwickshire; died 1898 in Napa CA) and Emma Clarke (b. 1833 Gloucestershire; died 1919, Napa CA). The parents of James were William Elkington (b. 1803 Coventry, Warwickshire; died 1841 Coventry, Warwickshire) and Amelia Wallington (b. 1804 Lancashire; died 1891 Napa CA). William's father was Timothy Elkington b. 1776 Leicestershire; died 1821 Warwickshire Williams' mother was Ann Bashford. They had nine children. Timothy's parents are unknown and therein lies the mystery! Cecelia's queries about her family are somewhere in the Elkington list archives and, other than Don, I don't recall that anyone else was able to supply info, but that was quite a while ago. I hope that I'm not overstepping my bounds in asking (where Cecilia's concerned), but does anyone have this Timothy Elkington (1803 to 1841) in his or her family tree? As always, many thanks, Judy, for your work on the Elkington family. Cheers, Rose in sunny, chilly southern Ontario, Canada ..................................... Rose Robinson Hately r.hately@sympatico.ca ................................... ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJupar@aol.com> To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:43 AM Subject: [ELKINGTON] Richard Elkington 1607 > Richard Elkington, of Shawell, by will dated 1607, gave £50 to be held in > trust by the Corporation of Leicester, the interest of which was to be > given to the parson and churchwardens of Lutterworth to give to five poor > tradesmen each year. > > . . . . > I thought you might be interested in this. If you want to know any > more I have a complete list of Elkingtons almost up to the present day. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > www.elkingtonfamily.com > Elkington@rootsweb.com > > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > -------------------------------

Richard Elkington, of Shawell, by will dated 1607, gave £50 to be held in trust by the Corporation of Leicester, the interest of which was to be given to the parson and churchwardens of Lutterworth to give to five poor tradesmen each year. A similar amount was left to the St Martin’s parish in Leicester. This charitable donation, either from the neglect of the trustees or from some other cause, does not appear to have been ever carried into effect. In 1639, the Corporation used this money, together with £41 of their own, totalling £141, to purchase some property in Leicester. Almost two centuries later, in 1807, the Corporation tried to sell this property but their clerk noticed that they did not own it solely – in fact they only owned two sevenths of it. As a consequence of the clerk’s quick-thinking the case went to the Court of Chancery which made a decree in 1825 ordering that the property be sold and the proceeds invested and divided between the Corporation, which was allowed to keep two sevenths of the total sum, with the St Martin’s parish of Leicester and Lutterworth sharing the remaining five sevenths of the sum. The situation was finally resolved, and in 1875 Lutterworth Parish Officers received a sum of £1286.9s.7d. as their share of the charity. Part of this went towards building the Lutterworth Grammar School and the remaining sum of £660.17s,5d was left invested. I thought you might be interested in this. If you want to know any more I have a complete list of Elkingtons almost up to the present day. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com Elkington@rootsweb.com

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Judy Although the majority of his work was in silver electroplating I think his 'claim to fame' was that he patented the process of gold plating, even though he produced very few pieces. I believe there are examples of his gold plating, as well as an extensive collection of silver plate in the V and A. best wiishes wendy On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:57 PM, <JJupar@aol.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you sop much for the help you sent. Unfortunately none of it was > positive. > > The Elkingtons as we know, were well known for their silver plating and > the business was, of course, carried on by his sons. However, although > Gold was used in productions of a later date, it was never so remarkable > as > their well known Silver Plate, > > Thank you all for your help. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > www.elkingtonfamily.com > Elkington@rootsweb.com > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Thank you sop much for the help you sent. Unfortunately none of it was positive. The Elkingtons as we know, were well known for their silver plating and the business was, of course, carried on by his sons. However, although Gold was used in productions of a later date, it was never so remarkable as their well known Silver Plate, Thank you all for your help. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com Elkington@rootsweb.com

Hi Judy, I can't help with the gold connection with Elkington's. For what it is worth I provide the following information. In 1982 I purchased an Elkington silver plate with ancient coins and tokens welded to it at an antique auction in Wellington New Zealand. Many years ago my parents had some silver cutlery made by Elkington's. Thank you, George Elkington New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 11:30 p.m. To: Elkington@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELKINGTON] Elkington & Co Hi all Elkingtons, I have received a letter this morning which I would like your help with. I am seeking any information on the Elkington Factory in Birmingham or elsewhere where they may have carried out Goldwork. To the best of my knowledge they were not known for this type of work, so your help would be appreciated. Please reply as soon as possible. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com >>Forgive me for writing out of the blue. My name is Matthew Hill and >>I’m writing from the BBC in London. We have been commissioned to make a documentary film about the cultural history of Gold. Its a wide ranging programme that looks at goldworking in Ancient Egypt, Byzantium and right up to the present day. In this film we wish to tell the story of Elkington & Co and their pioneering electroplating technique which played a crucial role in allowing the Victorian middle class to own gold for the first time. We are intending to film in Birmingham, England where the factory was based but I’m also very keen to interview some members of the family who know about the history of the family and the business. In order to tell this story in the best possible way I’m also looking for as many photographs and film archive relating to the Elkington family and the business. << www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For what it is worth I have a set of stainless steel cutlery by Elkington! Best wishes in your search. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miss Caroline Elkington" <carjelk@aol.com> To: <elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Elkington & Co > > Hi Judy, > > This rings bells with me - I remember my father telling me of an Elkington > Silver Plate also other metals, and our claim to fame being the name > Elkington on Drain Covers! > I believe my ancestors migrated down to the midlands, as did many in the > 19th Century, from Sheffield. I would be very interested in looking > further. > > Regard > > Caroline Elkington. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JJupar <JJupar@aol.com> > To: Elkington <Elkington@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:30 > Subject: [ELKINGTON] Elkington & Co > > > Hi all Elkingtons, > I have received a letter this morning which I would like your help with. > am seeking any information on the Elkington Factory in Birmingham or > lsewhere where they may have carried out Goldwork. To the best of my > nowledge they were not known for this type of work, so your help would be > ppreciated. > Please reply as soon as possible. > > egards > JUDY ELKINGTON > ww.elkingtonfamily.com > > >>Forgive me for writing out of the blue. My name is Matthew Hill and I’m > riting from the BBC in London. We have been commissioned to make a > ocumentary film about the cultural history of Gold. Its a wide ranging > rogramme > hat looks at goldworking in Ancient Egypt, Byzantium and right up to the > resent day. In this film we wish to tell the story of Elkington & Co and > heir pioneering electroplating technique which played a crucial role in > llowing the Victorian middle class to own gold for the first time. > We are intending to film in Birmingham, England where the factory was > ased but I’m also very keen to interview some members of the family who > know > bout the history of the family and the business. In order to tell this > tory in the best possible way I’m also looking for as many photographs > and > ilm archive relating to the Elkington family and the business. << > > ww.elkingtonfamily.com > ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy Yes it is quite correct that there were Elkingtons in the Birmingham area who were involved in the gold business. They had a factory in Newham(?)Street, in Birmingham. In my research into my family tree there are distant links to my great Grandmother but not close enough that I have any information that would be of use. I am currently in Cairo and my paper information is all at home but I will look on my laptop and see if there is anything there of use. The Elkington family in Birmingham who were involved in the electroplating ( I thought mainly silver) were well known. Sorry I can't help any more than this, I know my great grandfather's father was a jeweller, but he was in Banbury by then. Best wishes Wendy Sent from my iPad On 26 Jan 2012, at 12:30, JJupar@aol.com wrote: > Hi all Elkingtons, > > I have received a letter this morning which I would like your help with. > I am seeking any information on the Elkington Factory in Birmingham or > elsewhere where they may have carried out Goldwork. To the best of my > knowledge they were not known for this type of work, so your help would be > appreciated. > > Please reply as soon as possible. > > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > www.elkingtonfamily.com > > > > >>> Forgive me for writing out of the blue. My name is Matthew Hill and I’m > writing from the BBC in London. We have been commissioned to make a > documentary film about the cultural history of Gold. Its a wide ranging programme > that looks at goldworking in Ancient Egypt, Byzantium and right up to the > present day. In this film we wish to tell the story of Elkington & Co and > their pioneering electroplating technique which played a crucial role in > allowing the Victorian middle class to own gold for the first time. > > We are intending to film in Birmingham, England where the factory was > based but I’m also very keen to interview some members of the family who know > about the history of the family and the business. In order to tell this > story in the best possible way I’m also looking for as many photographs and > film archive relating to the Elkington family and the business. << > > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy, This rings bells with me - I remember my father telling me of an Elkington Silver Plate also other metals, and our claim to fame being the name Elkington on Drain Covers! I believe my ancestors migrated down to the midlands, as did many in the 19th Century, from Sheffield. I would be very interested in looking further. Regard Caroline Elkington. -----Original Message----- From: JJupar <JJupar@aol.com> To: Elkington <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:30 Subject: [ELKINGTON] Elkington & Co Hi all Elkingtons, I have received a letter this morning which I would like your help with. am seeking any information on the Elkington Factory in Birmingham or lsewhere where they may have carried out Goldwork. To the best of my nowledge they were not known for this type of work, so your help would be ppreciated. Please reply as soon as possible. egards JUDY ELKINGTON ww.elkingtonfamily.com >Forgive me for writing out of the blue. My name is Matthew Hill and I’m riting from the BBC in London. We have been commissioned to make a ocumentary film about the cultural history of Gold. Its a wide ranging rogramme hat looks at goldworking in Ancient Egypt, Byzantium and right up to the resent day. In this film we wish to tell the story of Elkington & Co and heir pioneering electroplating technique which played a crucial role in llowing the Victorian middle class to own gold for the first time. We are intending to film in Birmingham, England where the factory was ased but I’m also very keen to interview some members of the family who know bout the history of the family and the business. In order to tell this tory in the best possible way I’m also looking for as many photographs and ilm archive relating to the Elkington family and the business. << ww.elkingtonfamily.com ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi all Elkingtons, I have received a letter this morning which I would like your help with. I am seeking any information on the Elkington Factory in Birmingham or elsewhere where they may have carried out Goldwork. To the best of my knowledge they were not known for this type of work, so your help would be appreciated. Please reply as soon as possible. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com >>Forgive me for writing out of the blue. My name is Matthew Hill and I’m writing from the BBC in London. We have been commissioned to make a documentary film about the cultural history of Gold. Its a wide ranging programme that looks at goldworking in Ancient Egypt, Byzantium and right up to the present day. In this film we wish to tell the story of Elkington & Co and their pioneering electroplating technique which played a crucial role in allowing the Victorian middle class to own gold for the first time. We are intending to film in Birmingham, England where the factory was based but I’m also very keen to interview some members of the family who know about the history of the family and the business. In order to tell this story in the best possible way I’m also looking for as many photographs and film archive relating to the Elkington family and the business. <<