In a message dated 23/08/2009 16:49:15 GMT Daylight Time, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com writes: The easiest solution would be a birth certificate. Hi Don, Well done for tracking him. I wish I could find the dosh for all the problems I have but my funds are a bit limited at the moment, so I couldn't buy a certificate. I guess he wanted to change his name from Gretsch to something English when the war with Germany started as did the Royal Family in the first World War. Obviously his parents weren't married so perhaps that is why. Regards Judy Elkington

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/85.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Don, Thanks for the information. I have added it to his notes. I believe he comes from the Warwickshire Branch but I am waiting for the rest of AEHE's notes from Warwick so that I can complete the work I am doing. There was a family of Elkingtons in Dover for quite a long time so perhaps he is one of theirs. Regards Judy Elkington Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Don_Elkington Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/85.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to his death registration in 1983 Q3 Dover District, in the name Fred Elkington Elkington, he was born 11 Aug 1912. Don Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Elkington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/85.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI Don I found this the other day and noted it down for future reference. Class: RG13; Piece: 2690; Folio: 127; Page: 2. I see he was a Motor Cycle Mechanic and wondered if he was any relation to Joseph Elkington divorced by Lucy Bott. See www.elkingtonfamily.com Crime and Punishment. I can see that it is rather strange to repeat his surname but as Lucy had several other children by other men, perhaps this was just to establish his parenthood I have looked in the 1911 census without success and also earlier ones and this is the only Fred E. that I could find. Let me know if you come up with anything. Judy Elkington Elkington@rootsweb.com www.elkingtonfamily.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Elkington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/85.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI Don I found this the other day and noted it down for future reference. Class: RG13; Piece: 2690; Folio: 127; Page: 2. I see he was a Motor Cycle Mechanic and wondered if he was any relation to Joseph Elkington divorced by Lucy Bott. See www.elkingtonfamily.com Crime and Punishment. I can see that it is rather strange to repeat his surname but as Lucy had several other children by other men, perhaps this was just to establish his parenthood I have looked in the 1911 census without success and also earlier ones and this is the only Fred E. that I could find. Let me know if you come up with anything. Judy Elkington Elkington@rootsweb.com www.elkingtonfamily.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Don_Elkington Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/85/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone identify "Fred Elkington Elkington" who married Ivy Adelaide Ruby Walker and had three children:- Christopher John - 1939 Rosemary Ann - 1944 Alan Charles -1954 Don Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Judy It would be wonderful if we could find a connection. I am in Australia and I have not had too much luck finding any descendants of the Budd children as yet. I have only just discovered a few things so don't have much on the English family as yet. Annie Budd is my great great Grandmother. She was as far as I know the eldest child of George BUDD (b abt 1817) and Margaret CUMMIN(G)S (b abt 1817). George was a railway contractor/excavator and the family moved about a lot. I found Annie's baptism on the internet and via a search thru the LDS.... and then was able to find the 1841 census and had some help with the family in the 1851 census (where they are found in Stevenage in Hertfordshire) and then the 1861 census which was at Kidderminster, Worcestershire. The 1851 census gives this info: George Budd Head M 34 Ropley, Hampshire Margaret Budd Wife M 34 Dallas Forres, Morayshire, Scotland Ann Budd Daughter 9 Balcombe, Susses Sarah Budd Daughter 5 France William Budd Son 4 France Elizabeth Budd Daughter 2 Burnt Tree, Shropshire George Budd Son 1 Hatfield, Hertfordshire The 1861 census gives this info: Margaret C. Budd Head M 43 Elgin, Scotland Sarah Budd Daughter 16 Ruan, France William Budd Son 14 St Lawrence, France James Budd Son 8 Leebotwood, Shropshire Robert Budd Son 6 ?, France I haven't gone back much further than this. Annie married James Green in Bilbao, Spain at the British Consul in 1859. She came to Australia sometime between then and 1865. They had 4 known children: Sarah Ellen GREEN born 1865 and died 1944. She married Julius Alfred GRUBE in 1891 and later John J. WALKER (all occurring in Queensland, Australia) Fanny GREEN died in 1865 (in Queensland, Australia) Birth unknown James GREEN born 1868 (in Queensland, Australia) marriage and death unknown Elizabeth Isobel GREEN birth & death unknown, married Joseph Eyre HEATH in 1881 (in Queensland, Australia) In the 1861 census some of the children including Annie are missing. I am thinking this is the time when she may have gone to Australia but as James was also in the railways they may have been elsewhere at the time of the census. I haven't found the ship they came out on yet. Elizabeth is missing from the 1861 census and she would have been about 12 then and only 9 when Annie was married. I do know however that Elizabeth did grown to adulthood. Where Annie was buried in Brisbane there also was buried a mystery lady (Lilly Ruth Davies) that took me a while to work out who she was but her death index gives her mother as Elizabeth Budd and father as William (Davies I'm assuming) I have not found any marriages for her. Anyway that's enough for now I hope you can find a connection... I would be so surprised and delighted if you do :) Regards Deb

In a message dated 17/08/2009 19:40:37 GMT Daylight Time, deb.scrapbox@gmail.com writes: It would be wonderful if we could find a connection. I am in Australia and I have not had too much luck finding any descendants of the Budd children as yet. Hi Letter sent in error to this list. Please ignore. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

In a message dated 16/08/2009 04:14:12 GMT Daylight Time, relks@shaw.ca writes: >From AEHE (Bath) line, son of John Henry Ford E. 1830; John Ford, born 1866-1944 Lt. Col. D.S.O. Croix de Guerre Hi I suddenly realised who it was later in the day. He is down on the Website as Lt. John Ford Elkington born in Newcastle Jamaica in 1866. My hero so to speak, but that little snippet didn't come out at the time of my research. Thank you for looking him up. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Judy, Is this not the son of John Henry Ford and Margaret Jamieson - as he progresses tup the military ladder? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJupar@aol.com> To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: [ELKINGTON] John F. Elkington b.1866 > Hi All, > > Whilst working on the 1891 census I came across an unusual man who I > cannot > place in any family, at the moment. > > John F. Elkington born 1866 West Indies Lieutenant Tower of London > > He does not seem to be in later censuses, and because I cannot find his > birth parents at the moment, I cannot place him. > > Has anyone any ideas. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HI Judy, >From AEHE (Bath) line, son of John Henry Ford E. 1830; John Ford, born 1866-1944 Lt. Col. D.S.O. Croix de Guerre -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: August 15, 2009 8:17 AM To: Elkington@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELKINGTON] John F. Elkington b.1866 Hi All, Whilst working on the 1891 census I came across an unusual man who I cannot place in any family, at the moment. John F. Elkington born 1866 West Indies Lieutenant Tower of London He does not seem to be in later censuses, and because I cannot find his birth parents at the moment, I cannot place him. Has anyone any ideas. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Whilst working on the 1891 census I came across an unusual man who I cannot place in any family, at the moment. John F. Elkington born 1866 West Indies Lieutenant Tower of London He does not seem to be in later censuses, and because I cannot find his birth parents at the moment, I cannot place him. Has anyone any ideas. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi, Ancestry has offered "Ancestry hints" for individuals in Member Trees for some time now, and I have often thought how useless and annoying these pop-ups are. However, this has now been extended to WorldConnect trees, where the pop up is just one information bar for the individual on display. The displays are uncluttered and rapid, being largely text, unlike the messy Ancestry displays. This seems a very useful facility particularly when looking for families that have seem to have disappeared in England. Try loading a skeleton of (one of ) your family trees and follow the hints link. You may be surprised at the records offered that were not in your tree. Don

Hi, It appears that the soldier named Edyngdone was most likely of the London family recorded variously between 1337 and 1401, and of no known Elkington connection. The more ususal variant of the early name in Northamptonshire was Eltingdon/Eltington and I can find no plain soldier of this name in the database. Don

Hi All, I am having some difficulty with Warwick Record office about obtaining a few missing pages of AEHElkington's notes which I am trying to complete. They wrote to me very favourably in the first place but when I asked for the missing pages they seemed worried. I am trying to get the complete works on Warwickshire Elkingtons together with all the Wills from 1505 to date that I can lay my hands on. As you know I have put sev eral stories on my Website as you know but I am anxious to complete this work up to 2000 if possible. My own notes go way beyond those of AEHElkington's now. Some of his families were missing and I have found them and added them to my notes.taken from his original works. The whole makes a promising record of the family up to date and I would like to get the chance to complete it. I am wondering, if any of you have the pages I am missing in order top get on with my work. The missing pages are 101 - 107 inclusive and pages 110 - 113 inclusive.. Would anyone have these pages and could let me have a copy. I should be so grateful. I am trying to get the rest of the censuses from 1841 to 1901 on the Website. 1841 and 1881 all have the addresses of the family even if they are in a village and 1841 also has all the occupations. Each census is by county so I hope it will make it easier to find who you want. Some of them are sorted into lodgers and servants as well. I hope it will prove useful for you. Do hope someone can help. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON

Dear Judy, I must apologise for confusing the query I raised - it was the baptism of the second Lee Elkington c. 1725 which was missing - so much for my memory and poor notes. best wishes Don

Dear Judy, According to my Worldwide Elkington Address Book, somewhat dated, only one John lived in that location. Re Lee c. 1700, my enquiry is with specific regard to his baptism record, which is not given in the extracts or notes, if I recall correctlly, and the source. Where did you get the date and place shown in your write up - the church register or the bishops transcripts? I am not sure I can let you know about a J H Elkington without his permission. regards Don

Hi, This new source of information for the period 1369 to 1453 is searchable on line - http://www.icmacentre.ac.uk/soldier/database/ As the Lincolnshire Elkington family served in the Wars, and appear to have had a feudal link with the House of Lancaster, erstwhile monarchs of England ---- However, handwriting, trasncription, spelling and name variants do not reveal the name "Elki(y)n(g)ton. There are Elnyngton, Edyngdone*, Eketon, Ekyngton etc. Another explanation for the apparent lack of a solid record is the rank/status of the soldiers in the database. The Elkynton of Lincolnshire were of a higher rank - AFIK TIP - when searching by surname, use wild cards - e.g. S* finds all surnames with S, Si* etc SSS* etc. * a man from Northamptonshire ? At the time the village was Eltington and variants (not Elkington). Have fun. Don

Hi All, Can anyone on the list put me in contact with Mr. John Elkington, as below. My Worldwide Elkington Adress Book, rather old, gives an address in Moseley, Birmingham. Replies direct to me please - i.e. off the list. Don

In a message dated 06/08/2009 08:30:37 GMT Daylight Time, don_@lkington.me.uk writes: Can anyone on the list put me in contact with Mr. John Elkington, as below. My Worldwide Elkington Adress Book, rather old, gives an address in Moseley, Birmingham. Dear Don, I regret that I am unable to put you in touch with John Elkington because you put 'as below' and no other reference. I have a J H Elkingtion on the list but I could not give you his address without his prior permission.If you wish me to write to him and ask him to contact you I will do so of course. I am also wondering about Lee Elkington 1700 as I sent you very full notes on him. They were originally from AEHE notes and fully backed up by information from the Oxfordshire List and the Old Bailey Records.. Also his mother came from Chipping Norton so perhaps that is why they moved there. Anywz\y let me know about J H Elkington. Regards Judy Elkington