Hi Judy, Just wanted to tell you, if you're interested in California Elkingtons, check out my Elkington Family Tree on Ancestry.com. Cecelia Elkington Setty On Oct 14, 2009, at 3:36 AM, jjupar@aol.com wrote: > Hi all, > > Thank you for your answers to my query. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, ] > > > > > Goons member 4052. > _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com) > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi all, Thank you for your answers to my query. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, ] Goons member 4052. _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com) ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi Judy I find that alternating Letters and numbers (like UK postcodes but longer) works in such cases. Thus I have 4 brothers born 1633-47 Edward Thomas John and George I call them Branch A, Branch B? Branch C Branch D Branch D splits?4 ways with?4 brothers who found branches 4A 4B? 4C? 4D 4A splits 3 ways into 4Ai? 4Aii? 4aiii? (using roman numerals for the second occurrence of a number, easier on the eye) then a further split into: Branches ?4Aia?? 4Aib? etc (small letter for second occurrence of letter ) If you want to preserve the Warwickshire bit as an aide-memoire, you could use WA1, WA2 etc? It beats those awful ahnentaffels that the commercial progammes offer us, anyway. Steve Hempsall ONS -----Original Message----- From: JJupar@aol.com To: goons@rootsweb.com CC: genbrit@rootsweb.com; Elkington@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:24 Subject: [G] Attributions Hi I am working on several branches of a family tree at the moment but I need some advice. The family is founded, for my records, on one man born in Oxfordshire in 1505. For three generations the family remained there and then several sons split off into various counties. As they formed themselves into families in each county I have noted this also giving them the title of Warwickshire Branch 1, or Warwickshire Branch 11 or whatever their first ancestor moved to. Now comes the problem, because several of them moved to other counties some three hundred years or so further on. Do I carry on with the Branch and County Numbers or do I give them new branches. Each name has the date of birth and county of birth attached but should I carry on with the note Warwickshire Branch 1 or Warwickshire Branch 11 also to show where they originated from. If they go to Australia, Canada or New Zealand or other country, I have given them the btitle of, for example, Warwick Shire Branch I Canadian Branch I. Is this method of recording satisfactory or could yiou suggest a better way of noting it. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html _____________________________________________ Search RootsWeb archives for mention of your name: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am working on several branches of a family tree at the moment but I need some advice. The family is founded, for my records, on one man born in Oxfordshire in 1505. For three generations the family remained there and then several sons split off into various counties. As they formed themselves into families in each county I have noted this also giving them the title of Warwickshire Branch 1, or Warwickshire Branch 11 or whatever their first ancestor moved to. Now comes the problem, because several of them moved to other counties some three hundred years or so further on. Do I carry on with the Branch and County Numbers or do I give them new branches. Each name has the date of birth and county of birth attached but should I carry on with the note Warwickshire Branch 1 or Warwickshire Branch 11 also to show where they originated from. If they go to Australia, Canada or New Zealand or other country, I have given them the btitle of, for example, Warwick Shire Branch I Canadian Branch I. Is this method of recording satisfactory or could yiou suggest a better way of noting it. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi I am working on various aspects of the census at the moment and wondered if any one can tell me where to look up the records for 'Lieutenant of the Tower of London'. 1891 census RG12/283 page 31. John Ford Elkington, who had a wonderful story in the first World War [see _www.elkingtomnfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtomnfamily.com) ] is shown as Lieutenant of the Tower of London in the 1891 census. There are several men from his regiment also there and I wondered if they were just stationed there or would this be a position of trust. If anyone can tell me how the Tower worked I would be very pleased. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] Goons member 4052 www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi all Elkingtons You may be interested in this item on E-bay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200388900908 Regards Judy Elkington

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Elkington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/87/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi all Elkingtons, I have just posted a complete list of all Elkingtons in the 1841 census. Everyone has an address and occupation even if they live in the same village. May I remind you that Rememberance Day will be here soon and there is a complete list of all who died in the two World Wars with their relationships and Army Numbers. www.elkingtonfamily.com Judy Elkington Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Elkington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/86/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi all Elkingtons, I have just posted a complete list of all Elkingtons in the 1841 census. Everyone has an address and occupation even if they live in the same village. May I remind you that Rememberance Day will be here soon and there is a complete list of all who died in the two World Wars with their relationships and Army Numbers. www.elkingtonfamily.com Judy Elkington Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi All Elkingtons, I have now finished and added the 1841 census. As it is so difficult to find people and their addresses in this census I have put in the addresses of each family to help identify them. If it is several families in the one village the they have been given numbers to help identify different households. I hope you find it useful. May I just remind you that whether you live in the British Isles or another country, I keep a lot of records of Elkingtons worldwide. If you have family born after 1890. I would be very pleased to add yours to what I have. Some of you have already done this but for those of you still wondering, I would welcome your input for my database. I hope to get it all done and make a CD of it all so please remember to send me your Elkington family. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON List administrator and keeper of the database.

Hi I am looking for descendants in the C20 of this couple. Edward, who may have been adopted, was born in 1859 and Hepzibah was born in 1862, he in Maidstone and she in Tonbridge, Kent. In the 1911 census they state that they have 12 children, six girls and six boys. Bearing in mind that they were married in 1889 and by 1911 these children had been born but I have been unable to find them all, except eight of them, two dying in the interim period and Percy Amos who died in the first World War in 1918. I would like to hear from anyone who can claim kinship to these two people. Regards Judy Elkington

In a message dated 09/09/2009 20:17:27 GMT Daylight Time, don_@lkington.me.uk writes: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?search type=browserefine&query=scope%3delkington&catid=24&pagenumber=1&querytype=1& mediaarray Hi Don, Thanks for the URL. I think AEHElkington's explanation is easier to follow although I do have a copy of the Domesday book. It is thought that the Lincolnshire Villages of North and South Elkington came later than Elkington in Northants. You will find an abbreviated version on my profile site at the Goons which looks at the earliest recorded versions.. _www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html_ (http://www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html) I was hoping for some further information by contacting the SLHS but they know nomore than what they wrote to me. I hoped that some of the Elkington families from Lincolnshire may hold a clue but so far no answers. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Judy, The "horse's mouth" re North and South Elkington names is probably the Doomsday book itself, whose contents can be viewed online - the link below also gives the Northamptonshire village details. Follow the "see details" links. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=scope%3delkington&catid=24&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray Make sure you paste the whole of the above long link to your browser's URL bar. So, we see "Alchinton(e)" * which readily became Elkyngton for a Norman scribe's tongue, I suspect. * from Ealac's dun - see Early Generations of the Elkingtons of Bath, which you have. The "de Alchinton/Elkyngton" would have been enfiefed in feudal perpetuity at a later date, probably for military service to erase Yorkshire a couple of times. An image of the actual record is £3.50, if you want the Latin cursive. Don

Hi I have been trying to find out the roots of various Lincolnshire Elkingtons. Firstly North and South Elkington and secondly Elkington Hall. This is the answer that I received about this and would be glad of anyone's opinion on the answer. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com _www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html_ (http://www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html) >>Quote: According to the Dictionary of Lincolnshire Place Names, Elkington is probably the farmstead village associated with, or called after, Ead lac, from the Old English Ead lac a personal name and Old English tun, with the Old English connective particle -ing. Elkington Hall was built in 1842 by Edward Buckton Lambe (1806-1869). The Smyths who built Elkington could trace their descent from a fourteenth century Smyth who owned land there. After the estate was sold in the 1930s the house was unoccupied for a long period. It was almost entirely demolished in the 1960s.<<

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elkers Surnames: ELKINGTON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/81.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello again Judy Yes - you are quite right. Queenie (real name Alexandra,I think) and Muriel were the two youngest in the family and were born after my father Herbert George. Muriel died in 1996 after becoming a recluse for a good number of years, then went into a care home in Southampton, when I administered her affairs under an Order from the Court of Protection. Queenie died a short time after. She had one son, Robert Sinclair, with whom I am still in touch. They lived in Southampton too, but moved to Alton. The family still live there. Incidentally, my eldest uncle, also Walter, was a 2nd Lieutenant in the First World War. He was killed in April 1918 in France, but this doesn't appear on your WW1 list. I can provide some further details if you need some. (I have the letter sent to my grandparents by his Commanding Officer in France). Thankyou again for your terrific help. Really good. If you need the information, my grandparents, Walter and Agnes (née Heath) are buried in Southampton, and their youngest daughter Muriel is with them. George Elkington died in 1953 at Bexhill, and Herbert Elkington (both were brothers of Walter) died in Bristol in 1955. Although I personally knew grandfather Walter,and his brothers George and Herbert, I did not realise that there were three other siblings - Henry, Ada and Blanche (p12 of 1881 Elkington census at St Pancras, London)- unless I have got the wrong part of the family. Apparently my grandmother Agnes (Heath) was rather 'odd' and wanted nothing to do with any of the other members of the family - and that included George and Herbert (from whom I got the 'odd' comment)! With kindest regards David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/81.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi David, I have them in my copy of the 1901 census and they are living in Hornsey, Middlesex. I cannot veryfi this today as the Ancestry census is closed down for maintenance. Here is what I have for you and I will send their full address when Ancestry comes on-line again in a couple of days. Walter Elkington b.1869 at Hornsea, Middlesex Agnes Elkington b.1871 at St Pancras, London formerley Agnes Heath marriage 1st Qtr. 1889 Islington lb 395. Cecil C. Elkington b.1895 Islington Herbert G. Elkington b.1900 Hornsey, Middlesex Sidney E. Elkington b.1897 Islington Walter H. Elkington b.1893 Islington Winifed Elkington b.1891 Islington I think the other two children were born after the 1901 census so I will see if I can find them for you later today. I hope this helps you for now and I will look the rest up for you in the next couple of days. Regards Judy Elkington www.elkingtonfamily.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elkers Surnames: Elkington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/81.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Judy My grandparents, Walter and Agnes Elkington were living in London in 1900 when my father, Herbert Elkington was born there (March 1900). He was one of seven children, but where the others were born I don't know. David Elkington elkers@tiscali.co.uk Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, I have had this letter regarding Terewai Grace Elkington and her husband Taare Waitara Charles [Savantis} an d I wondered if any of our New Zealand Members could help out. Of course if any members else where can do so, please answer. Regards Judy Elkington. ~~~~~ Kia Ora I am a decendent of Taare Waitara (he was brothers with my great grandfather six generations back) and with respect I was wanting to find out why his surname has been incorrectly spelt as Savantis?. This of course is not the first time the name has been spelt incorrectly in fact most authors prefer to omit any mention of Taare's father instead preferring to write about his mother Hana. Taare's fathers name is also incorrect in several publications etc and it has been difficult to link Taare to his dad until now. I am currently researching my whakapapa and I am excited at the prospect of meeting/contacting people who have information on my whanau and would much appreciate any contact from the elkington whanau who are interested in sharing information about whanau. Ka kite Michelle Wipiiti (My grandmother is a Matangi)

Can anyone plac this woman, who worked as a waitress in the Black Boy Hotel in 1881, a widow born in Llangollen, aged 37. I am assuming she was the wife of an Elkington. Regards Don

Hi Don, THe dates dont seem to mesh with the Pembrey, Wales, lot of our family, but Llangollen is further north, nearer Birmingham so perhaps related to anyone in Birmingham form James 1770 onward,, for example, I have no expanded tree for James oldest brother Thomas 1761 of Kenilworth, listed as branch IV. there are descendants in the area from that time. On another tack,,, perhaps an E daughter that after becoming widowed assumed her family name also,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ? a M(iss) or M(rs) E? regards, R -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Don Elkington Sent: August 28, 2009 11:43 PM To: Rootsweb Post to ELKINGTON Subject: [ELKINGTON] M. Eltinton of Llangollen Can anyone plac this woman, who worked as a waitress in the Black Boy Hotel in 1881, a widow born in Llangollen, aged 37. I am assuming she was the wife of an Elkington. Regards Don ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Don_Elkington Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/85.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I have now partially resolved this query, using FreeBMD and Google. He changed his name from "Fred Elkington Gertsch" to "Fred Elkington Elkington "on 8 March 1939:- http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/issues/34607/pages/1822/page.pdf after his marriage, in the name Gertsch, to Ivy A R Walker in 1938 Q2, Surrey N.E. 2a, 318 and before the birth of his first son, Christopher John, in 1939 Q3, Hastings 2b 223 >From the name of that son, and his own given name, Fred, his mother was very probably a daughter of Christian Gertsch, from Switzerland, who appears in the 1901 census, with five daughters and two sons one named "Frid". She should be traceable via deduction from the GRO indexes and 1911 Census - Christian died 1911 Q4. Fred Elkington was born in 1912, as previously posted, in the name Fred Elkington Gretsch, mother Gretsch, Fulham 1a, 154 As Fred's father was obviously "Elkington", the three children and any issue are genealogically Elkingtons, though the family has been missed by A.E.H.E. So the question now is, who was the man who fathered Fred Elkington Gretsch/Elkington? ? Male Elkington & Female Gertsch Fred Elkington Gertsch - 1912 Fred Elkington Gertsch m Ivy A R Walker 1938 Christopher John Elkington - 1939 Rosemary Ann Elkington - 1944 Alan Charles Elkington -1954 The easiest solution would be a birth certificate. Don Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.