Hi, Thanks to everyone who sent me their findings and ideas. I think I have been able to prove that Mary Wells was not the sister of Frederick Elkington and as there is no Johnson [maiden name] in our family then she is not related. Many thanks for your help. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] Goons Mem.No.4052 www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Also meant to add = did not find a Langford in Berks either so perhaps Hungerford is correct? Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: <jjupar@aol.com> To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Cc: <GOONS@rootsweb.com>; <Genbrit@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: [ELKINGTON] Charles Wells b.1858 > Hi, > > Hope you all had a good Christmas. > > I am looking for the marriage of Charles Well to a Mary. The reason I > am > having trouble is because he does not seem to appear in any records > before > 1901 and then he also appears in 1911. He was born in Langford, Berks > in > 1858 [census records]. However there is a Charles James Wells born in > the Sep. Qtr. 1859 but in Hungerford which is in Berkshire. > > Now here is the problem. In 1901 and 1911 He is described as married to > a Mary living in Manchester with Frederick William Whitred Elkington who > is > described as his sister. So this would make her Mary Elkington. But > her birth has not been found. The mother died in 1861 in St. Leonards > on > Sea at a relatives house. Father was in the Indian Army and died there > in > 1858, when the two sons, James Ingle an d Frederick W.W. were still very > young and they spent their childhood with various relatives. > > Mary states that she was born in Earlstown, Lancashire [1901 and 1911] but > no sign of her before that. It is a strange place to be born in > considering that they are related to the Bath Family Branch and Mother > died shortly > after Mary's supposed birth, in Sussex. She was living in Manchester > after her marriage to Charles and a daughter Jessie born in 1894. > [census] > also no record found. > > Mary may have been married before because she seems to be a bit old to > have > her first and only child. Perhaps Jessie was the child of a first wife > of Charles. > > Any suggestions would be helpful. At the moment I can't send for any > certificates because I can't find any dates. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > Goons Mem.No. 4052 > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Judy, Mary Elkington 1857. Could not find an Earlstown in Manchester but there is one in Galway Ireland. Perhaps she was born there? Would fit with rest of the family. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: <jjupar@aol.com> To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Cc: <GOONS@rootsweb.com>; <Genbrit@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: [ELKINGTON] Charles Wells b.1858 > Hi, > > Hope you all had a good Christmas. > > I am looking for the marriage of Charles Well to a Mary. The reason I > am > having trouble is because he does not seem to appear in any records > before > 1901 and then he also appears in 1911. He was born in Langford, Berks > in > 1858 [census records]. However there is a Charles James Wells born in > the Sep. Qtr. 1859 but in Hungerford which is in Berkshire. > > Now here is the problem. In 1901 and 1911 He is described as married to > a Mary living in Manchester with Frederick William Whitred Elkington who > is > described as his sister. So this would make her Mary Elkington. But > her birth has not been found. The mother died in 1861 in St. Leonards > on > Sea at a relatives house. Father was in the Indian Army and died there > in > 1858, when the two sons, James Ingle an d Frederick W.W. were still very > young and they spent their childhood with various relatives. > > Mary states that she was born in Earlstown, Lancashire [1901 and 1911] but > no sign of her before that. It is a strange place to be born in > considering that they are related to the Bath Family Branch and Mother > died shortly > after Mary's supposed birth, in Sussex. She was living in Manchester > after her marriage to Charles and a daughter Jessie born in 1894. > [census] > also no record found. > > Mary may have been married before because she seems to be a bit old to > have > her first and only child. Perhaps Jessie was the child of a first wife > of Charles. > > Any suggestions would be helpful. At the moment I can't send for any > certificates because I can't find any dates. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > Goons Mem.No. 4052 > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 27/12/2009 16:53:57 GMT Standard Time, relks@shaw.ca writes: I see you are still unravelling FW Whitred Elk. so I thought I could add any notes from AEHE Bath book that might help. - There is a picture of the father Fred. Geo. as a Captain in B.A. p 26 Bath book. - died age 36 serving in India 1858 - FW Whitred recorded as born London 1854 - Worked and lived many years in Manchester, textiles, and died a bachelor 1927, Manchester I am concerned that AEHE could have missed a third child, he was well enough connected to the family as his great uncle was Fred. Geo. father of James Ingle(NZ) and FW Whitred, and his uncle Ernest Way visited the James Ingle family in NZ. Surely there would have been knowledge of a sister. So perhaps she was not a sister, if a sister she would have been about 34 when having a child and marrying Charles Wells in 1894. Perhaps Mary Ingle, the mother, her young husband having died in India, had a child by another man but did not marry, perhaps even died in childbirth and the child was sequestered from the family. Both brothers should have memories, at ages 6 and 7, of a sister being born. Anyway, happy searching, all the best of the season. Hi Rice, Thanks for the in formative reply. I am now sure that Mary Wells was not a blood sister but perhaps it was an honorary title. He certainly lived with them a good number of years and perhaps that is how he thought of her. I am sure that AEHE didn't miss a child and I don't think she had an illegitimate child. She died in St. Leonard's, Sussex, in the home of Elizabeth Warren Elkington of Princethorpe, which is many miles from Earlstown, Manchester. What relation was Ernest Way to Captain Norman Way the father of Theodora? I am interested to hear that he visited James Angle in New Zealand. I have James Ingle's family for several generations in New Zealand. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com

Hi Judy   Yes thank you, hope you did too.   There is a Jessie WELLS born Chorlton Q1 1894, ref 8c 870.  If the family moved about/was split up, as seems to have happened, that's close enough to Manchester for me to think it was probably your Jessie.   If Mary's mother died soon after her birth and the children were split up between relatives, it wouldn't be surprising if she didn't know her birthplace but just said the place she first remembered being born, or where the family she grew up with lived.   Hope this helps   Kim --- On Sun, 27/12/09, jjupar@aol.com <jjupar@aol.com> wrote: From: jjupar@aol.com <jjupar@aol.com> Subject: Charles Wells b.1858 To: Elkington@rootsweb.com Cc: GOONS@rootsweb.com, Genbrit@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 27 December, 2009, 11:27 Hi, Hope you all had a good Christmas. I am looking for the marriage of Charles Well to a Mary.   The  reason I am having trouble is because he does not seem to appear in any records  before 1901 and then he also appears in 1911.   He was born in  Langford, Berks in 1858 [census records].    However there  is a Charles James Wells born in the Sep. Qtr. 1859 but in Hungerford which is  in Berkshire. Now here is the problem.   In 1901 and 1911 He is described as  married to a Mary living in Manchester with Frederick William Whitred  Elkington who is described as his sister.   So this would make  her Mary Elkington.   But her birth has not been found.    The mother died in 1861 in St. Leonards on Sea at a relatives  house.   Father was in the Indian Army and died there in 1858,  when the two sons, James Ingle an d Frederick W.W. were still very  young and they spent their childhood with various relatives. Mary states that she was born in Earlstown, Lancashire [1901 and 1911] but  no sign  of her before that.  It is a strange place to be born in  considering that they are related to the Bath Family Branch and Mother died  shortly after Mary's supposed birth, in Sussex.    She was living  in Manchester after her marriage to Charles and a daughter Jessie born in 1894.  [census] also no record found. Mary may have been married before because she seems to be a bit old to have her first and only child.   Perhaps Jessie was the child of a first  wife of Charles. Any suggestions would be helpful.   At the moment I can't send  for any certificates because I can't find any dates.  JUDY  ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] Goons Mem.No.  4052 www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENBRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Judy, These details may help you. In the GRO I have located the birth of Jessie Wells; Jan-Mar 1894 Chorlton, 8c 870 There is a marriage of a Charles Wells to either Sarah DAVIES or Fanny LEAH Jul-Sep 1883, Chorlton, 8c 1093 Further, there is a death entry of a Fanny Wells aged 0 Jan-Mar 1885 Chorlton, 8c 517 and Fanny Wells aged 26 Apr-Jun 1887, Chorlton, 8c 423 A further marriage of: Charles Wells and either Mary Clarke or Mary Johnson; Oct-Dec 1889, Chorlton, 8c 1115 Can't find Mary Elkington. Regards, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jjupar@aol.com Sent: 27 December 2009 11:27 To: Elkington@rootsweb.com Cc: GOONS@rootsweb.com; Genbrit@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELKINGTON] Charles Wells b.1858 Hi, Hope you all had a good Christmas. I am looking for the marriage of Charles Well to a Mary. The reason I am having trouble is because he does not seem to appear in any records before 1901 and then he also appears in 1911. He was born in Langford, Berks in 1858 [census records]. However there is a Charles James Wells born in the Sep. Qtr. 1859 but in Hungerford which is in Berkshire. Now here is the problem. In 1901 and 1911 He is described as married to a Mary living in Manchester with Frederick William Whitred Elkington who is described as his sister. So this would make her Mary Elkington. But her birth has not been found. The mother died in 1861 in St. Leonards on Sea at a relatives house. Father was in the Indian Army and died there in 1858, when the two sons, James Ingle an d Frederick W.W. were still very young and they spent their childhood with various relatives. Mary states that she was born in Earlstown, Lancashire [1901 and 1911] but no sign of her before that. It is a strange place to be born in considering that they are related to the Bath Family Branch and Mother died shortly after Mary's supposed birth, in Sussex. She was living in Manchester after her marriage to Charles and a daughter Jessie born in 1894. [census] also no record found. Mary may have been married before because she seems to be a bit old to have her first and only child. Perhaps Jessie was the child of a first wife of Charles. Any suggestions would be helpful. At the moment I can't send for any certificates because I can't find any dates. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] Goons Mem.No. 4052 www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Judy, I see you are still unravelling FW Whitred Elk. so I thought I could add any notes from AEHE Bath book that might help. - There is a picture of the father Fred. Geo. as a Captain in B.A. p 26 Bath book. - died age 36 serving in India 1858 - FW Whitred recorded as born London 1854 - Worked and lived many years in Manchester, textiles, and died a bachelor 1927, Manchester I am concerned that AEHE could have missed a third child, he was well enough connected to the family as his great uncle was Fred. Geo. father of James Ingle(NZ) and FW Whitred, and his uncle Ernest Way visited the James Ingle family in NZ. Surely there would have been knowledge of a sister. So perhaps she was not a sister, if a sister she would have been about 34 when having a child and marrying Charles Wells in 1894. Perhaps Mary Ingle, the mother, her young husband having died in India, had a child by another man but did not marry, perhaps even died in childbirth and the child was sequestered from the family. Both brothers should have memories, at ages 6 and 7, of a sister being born. Anyway, happy searching, all the best of the season. Unfortunate that this sytem only takes "plain text" as I could post a picture of an updated and coloured "Crest" for those branches that have used the arms. Any who send a direct email can have a colour jpeg back of the crest, coloured faithfully to the description of the Arms. Your email systems must be able to take "Rich Text" and the jpeg will be reduced in resolution so the file should only be about 1 meg in size. I am still working on detailing, so will accumulate a mailing list and send in a month or so. Higher resolution, larger file size will be available to those who can receive it. relks@shaw.ca Happy New Year to all, regards, JRE -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of jjupar@aol.com Sent: December 27, 2009 3:27 AM To: Elkington@rootsweb.com Cc: GOONS@rootsweb.com; Genbrit@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELKINGTON] Charles Wells b.1858 Hi, Hope you all had a good Christmas. I am looking for the marriage of Charles Well to a Mary. The reason I am having trouble is because he does not seem to appear in any records before 1901 and then he also appears in 1911. He was born in Langford, Berks in 1858 [census records]. However there is a Charles James Wells born in the Sep. Qtr. 1859 but in Hungerford which is in Berkshire. Now here is the problem. In 1901 and 1911 He is described as married to a Mary living in Manchester with Frederick William Whitred Elkington who is described as his sister. So this would make her Mary Elkington. But her birth has not been found. The mother died in 1861 in St. Leonards on Sea at a relatives house. Father was in the Indian Army and died there in 1858, when the two sons, James Ingle an d Frederick W.W. were still very young and they spent their childhood with various relatives. Mary states that she was born in Earlstown, Lancashire [1901 and 1911] but no sign of her before that. It is a strange place to be born in considering that they are related to the Bath Family Branch and Mother died shortly after Mary's supposed birth, in Sussex. She was living in Manchester after her marriage to Charles and a daughter Jessie born in 1894. [census] also no record found. Mary may have been married before because she seems to be a bit old to have her first and only child. Perhaps Jessie was the child of a first wife of Charles. Any suggestions would be helpful. At the moment I can't send for any certificates because I can't find any dates. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England]

Hi, Hope you all had a good Christmas. I am looking for the marriage of Charles Well to a Mary. The reason I am having trouble is because he does not seem to appear in any records before 1901 and then he also appears in 1911. He was born in Langford, Berks in 1858 [census records]. However there is a Charles James Wells born in the Sep. Qtr. 1859 but in Hungerford which is in Berkshire. Now here is the problem. In 1901 and 1911 He is described as married to a Mary living in Manchester with Frederick William Whitred Elkington who is described as his sister. So this would make her Mary Elkington. But her birth has not been found. The mother died in 1861 in St. Leonards on Sea at a relatives house. Father was in the Indian Army and died there in 1858, when the two sons, James Ingle an d Frederick W.W. were still very young and they spent their childhood with various relatives. Mary states that she was born in Earlstown, Lancashire [1901 and 1911] but no sign of her before that. It is a strange place to be born in considering that they are related to the Bath Family Branch and Mother died shortly after Mary's supposed birth, in Sussex. She was living in Manchester after her marriage to Charles and a daughter Jessie born in 1894. [census] also no record found. Mary may have been married before because she seems to be a bit old to have her first and only child. Perhaps Jessie was the child of a first wife of Charles. Any suggestions would be helpful. At the moment I can't send for any certificates because I can't find any dates. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] Goons Mem.No. 4052 www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Merry Christmas everyone. Have a safe and prosperous 2010. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: <george@navigators.co.nz> To: <elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [ELKINGTON] Season's Greetings > Happy Christmas to all of you my cousins and God bless. > Thank you Judy for the wonderful work you do. > Cheers, > George Elkington. > New Zealand > -------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: JJupar@aol.com > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:51:50 > To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [ELKINGTON] Season's Greetings > > Hi Everyone, > > Just to wish you all a Merry ChrIstmas and a Happy New Year. > > Judy Elkington. > >> Twas the night before Christmas when all through the house >> Not a creature was stirring, not even my spouse. >> The dining room table with clutter was spread >> Stacks of pedigree charts and with letters which said. . . >> "Too bad about the data for which you just wrote >> It sank in a storm on an ill-fated boat." >> >> Stacks of old copies of wills and the such >> Were proof that my work had become much to much. >> Our children were nestled all snug in their beds, >> While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads. >> And I at my table was ready to drop >> >From work on my album with photos to crop. >> >> Christmas was here, and of such was my lot >> That presents and goodies and toys I'd forgot. >> Had I not been so busy with my grandparent's wills, >> I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills. >> While others bought gifts that would bring Christmas cheer; >> I'd spent time researching those birth dates and years. >> >> While I was thus musing about my sad plight, >> A strange noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright. >> Away to the window I flew like a flash, >> Tore open the drapes and then yanked up the sash. >> When what to my wondering eyes should appear? >> But an overstuffed sleigh and eight small reindeer. >> >> Up to the rooftop the reindeer they flew, >> With a sleigh full of toys and old Santa Claus, too. >> And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof >> The prancing and pawing of thirty-two hoofs. >> Our TV antenna was no match for their horns, >> And look at that roof with those hoof prints adorned! >> >> As I drew in my head, slamming it on the sash, >> Down the cold chimney fell Santa - KER-RASH! >> "Dear" Santa came down looking like a wreck. >> Tracking soot on the carpet,(I could wring his short neck!) >> Spotting my face, good old Santa could see >> That I had no Christmas spirit, you'd have to agree. >> >> He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work >> And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk)! >> Here was Santa, who'd brought us such gladness and joy; >> When I'd been too busy for even one toy! >> He spied my research on the table all spread >> "A genealogist!" he cried! (My face burned bright red!) >> >> "Tonight I;ve met many like you," Santa grinned. >> As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned. >> I gazed with amazement -- the cover it read >> "Those Genealogy Lines for Which You Have Pled." >> "I know what it's like being a genealogy bug," >> He said as he gave me a great Santa Hug. >> >> "While the elves make the sleighful of toys that I carry, >> I do my research in the North Pole Library! >> A special treat I am thus able to bring >> To genealogy folks who just can't find a thing. >> Now off you must go off to your bed for a rest, >> I'll clean up the house from this genealogy mess!" >> >> As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee, >> I looked back at Santa who'd brought so much to me. >> While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle, >> To his team, then they rose like the down of a thistle. >> And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight, >> "Family History is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!" > > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Happy Christmas to all of you my cousins and God bless. Thank you Judy for the wonderful work you do. Cheers, George Elkington. New Zealand -------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: JJupar@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:51:50 To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ELKINGTON] Season's Greetings Hi Everyone, Just to wish you all a Merry ChrIstmas and a Happy New Year. Judy Elkington. > Twas the night before Christmas when all through the house > Not a creature was stirring, not even my spouse. > The dining room table with clutter was spread > Stacks of pedigree charts and with letters which said. . . > "Too bad about the data for which you just wrote > It sank in a storm on an ill-fated boat." > > Stacks of old copies of wills and the such > Were proof that my work had become much to much. > Our children were nestled all snug in their beds, > While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads. > And I at my table was ready to drop > >From work on my album with photos to crop. > > Christmas was here, and of such was my lot > That presents and goodies and toys I'd forgot. > Had I not been so busy with my grandparent's wills, > I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills. > While others bought gifts that would bring Christmas cheer; > I'd spent time researching those birth dates and years. > > While I was thus musing about my sad plight, > A strange noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright. > Away to the window I flew like a flash, > Tore open the drapes and then yanked up the sash. > When what to my wondering eyes should appear? > But an overstuffed sleigh and eight small reindeer. > > Up to the rooftop the reindeer they flew, > With a sleigh full of toys and old Santa Claus, too. > And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof > The prancing and pawing of thirty-two hoofs. > Our TV antenna was no match for their horns, > And look at that roof with those hoof prints adorned! > > As I drew in my head, slamming it on the sash, > Down the cold chimney fell Santa - KER-RASH! > "Dear" Santa came down looking like a wreck. > Tracking soot on the carpet,(I could wring his short neck!) > Spotting my face, good old Santa could see > That I had no Christmas spirit, you'd have to agree. > > He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work > And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk)! > Here was Santa, who'd brought us such gladness and joy; > When I'd been too busy for even one toy! > He spied my research on the table all spread > "A genealogist!" he cried! (My face burned bright red!) > > "Tonight I;ve met many like you," Santa grinned. > As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned. > I gazed with amazement -- the cover it read > "Those Genealogy Lines for Which You Have Pled." > "I know what it's like being a genealogy bug," > He said as he gave me a great Santa Hug. > > "While the elves make the sleighful of toys that I carry, > I do my research in the North Pole Library! > A special treat I am thus able to bring > To genealogy folks who just can't find a thing. > Now off you must go off to your bed for a rest, > I'll clean up the house from this genealogy mess!" > > As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee, > I looked back at Santa who'd brought so much to me. > While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle, > To his team, then they rose like the down of a thistle. > And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight, > "Family History is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!" www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy Just to thank you for your greetings, to return those, and to thank you for all the work you do. It really is appreciated - even if I seldom utter. Bryan Elkington ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJupar@aol.com> To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:51 PM Subject: [ELKINGTON] Season's Greetings > Hi Everyone, > > Just to wish you all a Merry ChrIstmas and a Happy New Year. > > Judy Elkington. > >> Twas the night before Christmas when all through the house >> Not a creature was stirring, not even my spouse. >> The dining room table with clutter was spread >> Stacks of pedigree charts and with letters which said. . . >> "Too bad about the data for which you just wrote >> It sank in a storm on an ill-fated boat." >> >> Stacks of old copies of wills and the such >> Were proof that my work had become much to much. >> Our children were nestled all snug in their beds, >> While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads. >> And I at my table was ready to drop >> >From work on my album with photos to crop. >> >> Christmas was here, and of such was my lot >> That presents and goodies and toys I'd forgot. >> Had I not been so busy with my grandparent's wills, >> I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills. >> While others bought gifts that would bring Christmas cheer; >> I'd spent time researching those birth dates and years. >> >> While I was thus musing about my sad plight, >> A strange noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright. >> Away to the window I flew like a flash, >> Tore open the drapes and then yanked up the sash. >> When what to my wondering eyes should appear? >> But an overstuffed sleigh and eight small reindeer. >> >> Up to the rooftop the reindeer they flew, >> With a sleigh full of toys and old Santa Claus, too. >> And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof >> The prancing and pawing of thirty-two hoofs. >> Our TV antenna was no match for their horns, >> And look at that roof with those hoof prints adorned! >> >> As I drew in my head, slamming it on the sash, >> Down the cold chimney fell Santa - KER-RASH! >> "Dear" Santa came down looking like a wreck. >> Tracking soot on the carpet,(I could wring his short neck!) >> Spotting my face, good old Santa could see >> That I had no Christmas spirit, you'd have to agree. >> >> He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work >> And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk)! >> Here was Santa, who'd brought us such gladness and joy; >> When I'd been too busy for even one toy! >> He spied my research on the table all spread >> "A genealogist!" he cried! (My face burned bright red!) >> >> "Tonight I;ve met many like you," Santa grinned. >> As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned. >> I gazed with amazement -- the cover it read >> "Those Genealogy Lines for Which You Have Pled." >> "I know what it's like being a genealogy bug," >> He said as he gave me a great Santa Hug. >> >> "While the elves make the sleighful of toys that I carry, >> I do my research in the North Pole Library! >> A special treat I am thus able to bring >> To genealogy folks who just can't find a thing. >> Now off you must go off to your bed for a rest, >> I'll clean up the house from this genealogy mess!" >> >> As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee, >> I looked back at Santa who'd brought so much to me. >> While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle, >> To his team, then they rose like the down of a thistle. >> And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight, >> "Family History is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!" > > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Judy and All. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you all. Judy thank you for all your hard work in keeping things going and doing so much work. Have agood Season. Gerald W. (Bill) Elkington. Sent from my iPhone

Hi Everyone, Just to wish you all a Merry ChrIstmas and a Happy New Year. Judy Elkington. > Twas the night before Christmas when all through the house > Not a creature was stirring, not even my spouse. > The dining room table with clutter was spread > Stacks of pedigree charts and with letters which said. . . > "Too bad about the data for which you just wrote > It sank in a storm on an ill-fated boat." > > Stacks of old copies of wills and the such > Were proof that my work had become much to much. > Our children were nestled all snug in their beds, > While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads. > And I at my table was ready to drop > >From work on my album with photos to crop. > > Christmas was here, and of such was my lot > That presents and goodies and toys I'd forgot. > Had I not been so busy with my grandparent's wills, > I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills. > While others bought gifts that would bring Christmas cheer; > I'd spent time researching those birth dates and years. > > While I was thus musing about my sad plight, > A strange noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright. > Away to the window I flew like a flash, > Tore open the drapes and then yanked up the sash. > When what to my wondering eyes should appear? > But an overstuffed sleigh and eight small reindeer. > > Up to the rooftop the reindeer they flew, > With a sleigh full of toys and old Santa Claus, too. > And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof > The prancing and pawing of thirty-two hoofs. > Our TV antenna was no match for their horns, > And look at that roof with those hoof prints adorned! > > As I drew in my head, slamming it on the sash, > Down the cold chimney fell Santa - KER-RASH! > "Dear" Santa came down looking like a wreck. > Tracking soot on the carpet,(I could wring his short neck!) > Spotting my face, good old Santa could see > That I had no Christmas spirit, you'd have to agree. > > He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work > And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk)! > Here was Santa, who'd brought us such gladness and joy; > When I'd been too busy for even one toy! > He spied my research on the table all spread > "A genealogist!" he cried! (My face burned bright red!) > > "Tonight I;ve met many like you," Santa grinned. > As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned. > I gazed with amazement -- the cover it read > "Those Genealogy Lines for Which You Have Pled." > "I know what it's like being a genealogy bug," > He said as he gave me a great Santa Hug. > > "While the elves make the sleighful of toys that I carry, > I do my research in the North Pole Library! > A special treat I am thus able to bring > To genealogy folks who just can't find a thing. > Now off you must go off to your bed for a rest, > I'll clean up the house from this genealogy mess!" > > As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee, > I looked back at Santa who'd brought so much to me. > While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle, > To his team, then they rose like the down of a thistle. > And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight, > "Family History is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!"

Hi Dai and everyone, Thank you so much for the information. As his sister was born three years later than him and his father was serving in India where he died in 1858, it looks as though mother was in England for the birth because it states Earlstown, Lancashire. Her mother died in 1861in St. Leonards on Sea, Sussex. However I cannot find a marriage for Mary Wells [Elkington] born 1857 and married for 21 years in 1911. However, I have now been able to trace him through every census except 1881, and he was an orphan. He mysteriously appeared in Manchester and finally his sister turns up there married to a man from Berkshire so it has led me to a sister I didn't know he had and with the help of many of you who kindly sent me various hints which have been very helpful. Once again, thank you. JUDY ELKINGTON (N.Derbyshire) Member no.4052 elkington@one-name.org www.elkingtonfamily..com http://www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

In a message dated 17/12/2009 19:12:20 GMT Standard Time, jjupar@aol.com writes: Frederick is in Manchester in 1911. Retired clerk, 55, born chatham. RG14PN23852 RG78PN1379 RD464 SD3 ED24 SN121 Married sister Mary WELLS and her family are with him. Hi Many thanks to all those who replied both on and off list. He proved a difficult nut to crack but than ks to your help he is now in place. The trouble was that his father died in India when he was one year old and mother gave birth to him in England dying in 1861 and his sister is definitely not in the GRO and neither is her marriage. Thanks for all your help I have managed to find him. JUDY ELKINGTON (N. Derbyshire) Member no.4052 elkington@one-name.org www.elkingtonfamily..com http://www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Judy, There is a Frederick W. Elkington, born Calcutta, India in Lancs in 1891. Could he possibly have spent time in India, but not been born there? He was a visitor, so may not have been well known to the person filling in the census. Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3202; Folio 97; Page 33; Dai Name: Frederick W Elkington Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Calentta, India Civil parish: Moss Side Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England jjupar@aol.com wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to find Frederick William Whirred Elkington born 26 June 1854. > an d according to the census he was born in Chatham, Kent. His parents > were Frederick George Elkington of the Bath Branch of Elkingtons and Harriet > Mary Angle. His birth is confirmed. > > His father died in 1858 whilst serving in India, when he was four years > old. His mother came from Norfolk and died at St. Leonards-on-Sea, so she > returned to England. > > The only census I can find him in is the 1901 where he is living in > Manchester unmarried and single, working as a Commission Clerk. I can't find him > in 1911 but he died in Manchester in 1927. He has great gaps in his life > which I am trying to fill. > > His elder brother by one year was born in Ireland but emigrated to New > Zealand where he married and had a family. I wondered if he went to New > Zealand on a visit but I can't find him anywhere on any shipping lists. > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be very pleased. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > _____________________________________________ > > National Archives Research Guides: > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Judy, Frederick is in Manchester in 1911. Retired clerk, 55, born chatham. RG14PN23852 RG78PN1379 RD464 SD3 ED24 SN121 Married sister Mary WELLS and her family are with him. Dai Dai jjupar@aol.com wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to find Frederick William Whirred Elkington born 26 June 1854. > an d according to the census he was born in Chatham, Kent. His parents > were Frederick George Elkington of the Bath Branch of Elkingtons and Harriet > Mary Angle. His birth is confirmed. > > His father died in 1858 whilst serving in India, when he was four years > old. His mother came from Norfolk and died at St. Leonards-on-Sea, so she > returned to England. > > The only census I can find him in is the 1901 where he is living in > Manchester unmarried and single, working as a Commission Clerk. I can't find him > in 1911 but he died in Manchester in 1927. He has great gaps in his life > which I am trying to fill. > > His elder brother by one year was born in Ireland but emigrated to New > Zealand where he married and had a family. I wondered if he went to New > Zealand on a visit but I can't find him anywhere on any shipping lists. > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be very pleased. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > _____________________________________________ > > National Archives Research Guides: > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In a message dated 17/12/2009 18:20:48 GMT Standard Time, daibevan@clara.co.uk writes: Frederick is in Manchester in 1911. Retired clerk, 55, born chatham. RG14PN23852 RG78PN1379 RD464 SD3 ED24 SN121 Married sister Mary WELLS and her family are with him. Hi Dai, I am not sure this is the right on e. Could you give me anymore details of the vWells family. None of the records show a sister Mary but only a brother a year older who was born in Ireland in 1853. Father died whilst in the Army in India in 1858 so if he was separated from his wife there may not have been a daughter. Frederick was quite a popular name at that period of time but Chatham looks promising. Could you give me any more details about the Wells entry but I can't open it on the above Url. JUDY ELKINGTON (N.Derbyshire) Member no.4052 elkington@one-name.org www.elkingtonfamily..com http://www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi I am trying to find Frederick William Whirred Elkington born 26 June 1854. an d according to the census he was born in Chatham, Kent. His parents were Frederick George Elkington of the Bath Branch of Elkingtons and Harriet Mary Angle. His birth is confirmed. His father died in 1858 whilst serving in India, when he was four years old. His mother came from Norfolk and died at St. Leonards-on-Sea, so she returned to England. The only census I can find him in is the 1901 where he is living in Manchester unmarried and single, working as a Commission Clerk. I can't find him in 1911 but he died in Manchester in 1927. He has great gaps in his life which I am trying to fill. His elder brother by one year was born in Ireland but emigrated to New Zealand where he married and had a family. I wondered if he went to New Zealand on a visit but I can't find him anywhere on any shipping lists. If anyone has any suggestions I would be very pleased. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi Does anyone know Tim Elkington [from Gloucester]. He was a pilot in the second World War. I would like to get in touch with him as I have found the complete tree for him now and would like to get in touch with him. His Full name is John Francis Durham Elkington born 1920. I have stupidly lost his E-mail from several years ago so anything would help. You will notice from the above I have sorted the DURHAM name problem. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com