Thank you Judy for all your hard work. You are most welcome. Best wishes to you and the whole team. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJupar@aol.com> To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:05 AM Subject: [ELKINGTON] Isaac Jones Elkington in Tooele, Utah, USA > Hi > > Just wanted to thank Ian Gammage for his marvellous notes on this man who > emigrated from Oxfordshire to Tooele in the USA. Although he was the > illegitimate son of Sarah Ann Elkington and Isaac Jones, he carries his > mother's > surname because she wasn't married. > > Thank you Ian for your help. > > Regards, > > JUDY ELKINGTON > www.elkingtonfamily.com > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Just wanted to thank Ian Gammage for his marvellous notes on this man who emigrated from Oxfordshire to Tooele in the USA. Although he was the illegitimate son of Sarah Ann Elkington and Isaac Jones, he carries his mother's surname because she wasn't married. Thank you Ian for your help. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com

In a message dated 03/02/2010 04:03:53 GMT Standard Time, relks@shaw.ca writes: Trust you will clearly note that descendants of Sarah Ann that use the family name are Elkington in name only. They are Jones's and the men do not carry Elkington Y-DNA, (from the male line). In following the male descent we are staying with the tradition of patrilineal names, just to keep things clear. There are other instances of children taking a mother Elkington surname and it is good to track them separately so that we can know their lineage is "name only". In this case we can say that the children are Jones's and in other cases it may be known or unknown. Hi, I am not concerned with the DNA for the work I am doing as it is a one name study of all Elkingtons legally entitled to that name by English Law. Legally the Elkington name belongs to these people whether the DNA matches or not and under the rules of the group I belong to I am obliged to enter them in my records if they are of the same name. Obviously in my notes I shall be entering something to that effect. In British Law a child takes his mother's surname if she is not married and I must therefore note these names. I was hoping that one of our American number may be able to help. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com

Hi Judy, Trust you will clearly note that descendants of Sarah Ann that use the family name are Elkington in name only. They are Jones's and the men do not carry Elkington Y-DNA, (from the male line). In following the male descent we are staying with the tradition of patrilineal names, just to keep things clear. There are other instances of children taking a mother Elkington surname and it is good to track them separately so that we can know their lineage is "name only". In this case we can say that the children are Jones's and in other cases it may be known or unknown. regards, JR -----Original Message----- From: elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:elkington-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: February 1, 2010 4:12 AM To: Elkington@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELKINGTON] Isaac Jones Elkington Hi, I am working on the family of this man who was the illegitimate son of Sarah Ann Elkington and Isaac Jones. He and his descendants lived in Tool, Utah, USA. an d I wondered if anyone else has researched them an d could write to me. Someone may be related to them and I would be pleased if you could contact me. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have had a reply about his English connections, but I am looking for his America relatives from Tooele in America. He was married twice. First to Amy Vilate Draper b.Rockville but she died in 1923 with no recorded children. Isaac remarried Lenora Bennet b.1904 and married 1929 in Evanston, Wyoming. She is reported as having 11 grandchildren and 22 Great-grandchildren. Is any body on this list able to help out with the names of these children as I would like to put them in my Tree. Hope someone knows them. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com

Hi, I am working on the family of this man who was the illegitimate son of Sarah Ann Elkington and Isaac Jones. He and his descendants lived in Tool, Utah, USA. an d I wondered if anyone else has researched them an d could write to me. Someone may be related to them and I would be pleased if you could contact me. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com

Don't feel bad. China and Japan and many other countries are taking or I should say, have taken away most of our large industries. Cecelia Setty On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:41 AM, John Sermon wrote: > I agree it is a real sad day. The US is just buying and asset > stripping this > country > > I could never imagine Germany selling Mercedes or America selling > any of > their big companies > > It must stop before we have and make nothing > > John S Sermon > > > On 24/01/2010 11:42, "jjupar@aol.com" <jjupar@aol.com> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> What a sad day to see Cadbury sold off. The Cadbury's, who were a >> Quaker Family, were good friends of the Elkington's in the >> 1850's. My >> great >> uncle George Richards Elkington, was. like the Cadbury family, of >> humble >> beginnings. >> >> John Cadbury started his business in 1824 in Bull Street, Birmingham >> selling Cocoa and Drinking Chocolate. George Richards Elkington was >> born in >> 1801 >> in St. Paul's Square, the son of a gilt toy and spectacle maker from >> Birmingham and at the age of 14 was apprenticed to his mother's >> brothers >> Josiah >> and George Richards. >> Both Cadbury and Elkington rose up through the ranks being astute >> business >> men, Cadbury in Chocolate and GRE in Silver Plating. Some of their >> children lived next door to the Cadbury's in Frederick Street. >> >> When two of the Cadbury sons, George and Richard, built a new >> factory in >> the suburbs of Birmingham it was only a short distance from GRE's >> house, >> 'Woodbrooke' at Selly Oak. The Cadbury's finally built their >> lovely >> Bourneville Village as well around their factory. >> >> However, GRE could no longer stand the smell of Chocolate and >> finally moved >> away selling his house to George Cadbury. Cadbury kept the house >> and >> finally it became a Quaker Centre which is still there today. >> >> You can read about George Richards Elkington on this site shown >> below and >> see a picture of the beautiful >> Woodbrooke Hall. >> >> Regards, >> >> Judy Elkington >> >> >> _http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/greelkington.htm >> >> >> >> _ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/greelkington.htm) >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Oops - should have read the second email before posting off a request to my cousin Grant Dixon in Hawkes Bay. I'll let hiim know not to start searching! Hi distant cousin George. I've travelled widely but the southern part of North Island is the most beautiful part of the world I have ever seen. The 8 days was just a taster and I'll definately be spending more time there. And the loving hospitality from distant family who didn't even know of our exisitence till November exceeded all expectations. Cheers Chris Dixon Cheers Chris Dixon On Wednesday, January 13, 2010, at 01:46AM, <jjupar@aol.com> wrote: > >Hi, > >I am looking for all Elkingtons in New Zealand, there are quite a few, as I > would like to make contact with them. Those of you on the list I would >be very pleased to hear from you. > >Arthur Elkington came to New Zealand with the British Army. In 1865 he >met a Maori girl, called Marara Horomona and they were married in >Wellington in 1865. This precluded Arthur from serving further in the British Army >and he was moved to serve in the Commissary General's Department as a >Deputy. Marara and Arthur had two children; John Ratapu Arthur and Terewai Grace >born in 1866 and 1867 respectively. I do have two lovely portraits of >Terewai Grace and Wetekia which I could forward to you. > >I am now looking for their descendants. Whilst looking on the internet >I found this website run by _http://turiandnuielkington.com/_ >(http://turiandnuielkington.com/) But they do not give an email contact just an >Admin address but they have not replied.. > >I wondered if any one could put me in touch with them or any Elkingtons in >New Zealand. > >The story of Arthur's arrival in New Zealand can be found at >_http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/arthurelkingtonnewzealand.htm_ >(http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/arthurelkingtonnewzealand.htm) > >I do hope someone will reply. Thanking you in advance. > > > > >Regards, > >JUDY ELKINGTON >www.elkingtonfamily.com >www.elkingtonfamily.com >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have just returned from New Zealand where I found my Dixon cousins - separated by 160 years, we share the same great great grandfather. They aren't Maori but do have a lot of Maori contacts in high places - I'll pass your letter on to them Cheers Chris Dixon Katherine, NT, Australia On Wednesday, January 13, 2010, at 01:46AM, <jjupar@aol.com> wrote: > >Hi, > >I am looking for all Elkingtons in New Zealand, there are quite a few, as I > would like to make contact with them. Those of you on the list I would >be very pleased to hear from you. > >Arthur Elkington came to New Zealand with the British Army. In 1865 he >met a Maori girl, called Marara Horomona and they were married in >Wellington in 1865. This precluded Arthur from serving further in the British Army >and he was moved to serve in the Commissary General's Department as a >Deputy. Marara and Arthur had two children; John Ratapu Arthur and Terewai Grace >born in 1866 and 1867 respectively. I do have two lovely portraits of >Terewai Grace and Wetekia which I could forward to you. > >I am now looking for their descendants. Whilst looking on the internet >I found this website run by _http://turiandnuielkington.com/_ >(http://turiandnuielkington.com/) But they do not give an email contact just an >Admin address but they have not replied.. > >I wondered if any one could put me in touch with them or any Elkingtons in >New Zealand. > >The story of Arthur's arrival in New Zealand can be found at >_http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/arthurelkingtonnewzealand.htm_ >(http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/arthurelkingtonnewzealand.htm) > >I do hope someone will reply. Thanking you in advance. > > > > >Regards, > >JUDY ELKINGTON >www.elkingtonfamily.com >www.elkingtonfamily.com >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I agree it is a real sad day. The US is just buying and asset stripping this country I could never imagine Germany selling Mercedes or America selling any of their big companies It must stop before we have and make nothing John S Sermon On 24/01/2010 11:42, "jjupar@aol.com" <jjupar@aol.com> wrote: > Hi > > What a sad day to see Cadbury sold off. The Cadbury's, who were a > Quaker Family, were good friends of the Elkington's in the 1850's. My > great > uncle George Richards Elkington, was. like the Cadbury family, of humble > beginnings. > > John Cadbury started his business in 1824 in Bull Street, Birmingham > selling Cocoa and Drinking Chocolate. George Richards Elkington was born in > 1801 > in St. Paul's Square, the son of a gilt toy and spectacle maker from > Birmingham and at the age of 14 was apprenticed to his mother's brothers > Josiah > and George Richards. > Both Cadbury and Elkington rose up through the ranks being astute business > men, Cadbury in Chocolate and GRE in Silver Plating. Some of their > children lived next door to the Cadbury's in Frederick Street. > > When two of the Cadbury sons, George and Richard, built a new factory in > the suburbs of Birmingham it was only a short distance from GRE's house, > 'Woodbrooke' at Selly Oak. The Cadbury's finally built their lovely > Bourneville Village as well around their factory. > > However, GRE could no longer stand the smell of Chocolate and finally moved > away selling his house to George Cadbury. Cadbury kept the house and > finally it became a Quaker Centre which is still there today. > > You can read about George Richards Elkington on this site shown below and > see a picture of the beautiful > Woodbrooke Hall. > > Regards, > > Judy Elkington > > > _http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/greelkington.htm > > > > _ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/greelkington.htm) > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi What a sad day to see Cadbury sold off. The Cadbury's, who were a Quaker Family, were good friends of the Elkington's in the 1850's. My great uncle George Richards Elkington, was. like the Cadbury family, of humble beginnings. John Cadbury started his business in 1824 in Bull Street, Birmingham selling Cocoa and Drinking Chocolate. George Richards Elkington was born in 1801 in St. Paul's Square, the son of a gilt toy and spectacle maker from Birmingham and at the age of 14 was apprenticed to his mother's brothers Josiah and George Richards. Both Cadbury and Elkington rose up through the ranks being astute business men, Cadbury in Chocolate and GRE in Silver Plating. Some of their children lived next door to the Cadbury's in Frederick Street. When two of the Cadbury sons, George and Richard, built a new factory in the suburbs of Birmingham it was only a short distance from GRE's house, 'Woodbrooke' at Selly Oak. The Cadbury's finally built their lovely Bourneville Village as well around their factory. However, GRE could no longer stand the smell of Chocolate and finally moved away selling his house to George Cadbury. Cadbury kept the house and finally it became a Quaker Centre which is still there today. You can read about George Richards Elkington on this site shown below and see a picture of the beautiful Woodbrooke Hall. Regards, Judy Elkington _http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/greelkington.htm _ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/greelkington.htm)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/92.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, As you didn't put a name at the top of your letter I wasn't sure if you were writing to me. You have the dates a little mixed up and if you write to me I have the whole tree from C16 at Shawell to the present day including Wills and other documents. Jjupar@aol.com Just write to me heading the letter "Elkington of Shawell" and I will be able to write to you. Judy Elkington Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SueBergen487 Surnames: Elkington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/92/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I see you originate in Shawell. Part of my family - John Elkington - came to Newton Harcourt where he married Elizabeth Swynfen in 1610. He states he came from Shawell originally. Does he fit into any of the 16thC Elkington family tree that you have? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

>This would make an >excellent avenue to investigate in my ONS. >Has anyone else looked at the emigration statistics for their studies? Chris Not yet - still trying to get detail on the overall numbers, distribution and families within England and Wales - not to mention Scotland and Ireland. Random events tend to cluster. Which is why sample size is important - large enough to smooth out the peaks and troughs but not so big as to be unmanageable. For example my own family line has few if any emigrants but a cousin line originating from the same Suffolk village has a large proportion of descendents in Canada and New Zealand. Similarly one large 19C London family (originating from Oxfordshire) appears to be the source of most of the present Australlia lines (subject to further research). Pete Winney - 4586 ps - Glad you liked the Mecanno picture - copyright probably now held by Mecanno Francais!

Hi, If anyone lost a loved one who is listed on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site, there is now an ongoing project to photograph them the headstones. _http://twgpp.org/index.php_ (http://twgpp.org/index.php) I have had a look and there are three pages of Elkingtons so it could prove fruitful for you an d not just from Britain but the whole of the Commomnwealth. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com

In a message dated 12/01/2010 20:45:48 GMT Standard Time, george@navigators.co.nz writes: I am a son of Turi and Nui Elkington most of us Elkingtons in New Zealand are descendents of Arthur And Marara. John Ratapu is my grandfather. Hi George, Long Time since I heard from you so I hope you are all well. I found the website on Google that is why I am making contact. I have found Turi in my database but his wife Nui I have no facts for. Can you tell me where she was born and what date. What was her name before she was married. Do you have a date for the marriage. Also any brothers and sisters you may have Could I have any up to date details for yourself and family. If you don't want to put them on the list you can send them to my private e-mail at _Jjupar@aol.com_ (mailto:Jjupar@aol.com) and they will then remain private but I can put them into my world-wide database which is not published. Thank you so much for writing. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com

Hi you have found them I am a son of Turi and Nui Elkington most of us Elkingtons in New Zealand are descendents of Arthur And Marara. John Ratapu is my grandfather. Cheers, George Elkington -------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: jjupar@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:16:25 To: <Elkington@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ELKINGTON] Elkingtons in New Zealand Hi, I am looking for all Elkingtons in New Zealand, there are quite a few, as I would like to make contact with them. Those of you on the list I would be very pleased to hear from you. Arthur Elkington came to New Zealand with the British Army. In 1865 he met a Maori girl, called Marara Horomona and they were married in Wellington in 1865. This precluded Arthur from serving further in the British Army and he was moved to serve in the Commissary General's Department as a Deputy. Marara and Arthur had two children; John Ratapu Arthur and Terewai Grace born in 1866 and 1867 respectively. I do have two lovely portraits of Terewai Grace and Wetekia which I could forward to you. I am now looking for their descendants. Whilst looking on the internet I found this website run by _http://turiandnuielkington.com/_ (http://turiandnuielkington.com/) But they do not give an email contact just an Admin address but they have not replied.. I wondered if any one could put me in touch with them or any Elkingtons in New Zealand. The story of Arthur's arrival in New Zealand can be found at _http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/arthurelkingtonnewzealand.htm_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/arthurelkingtonnewzealand.htm) I do hope someone will reply. Thanking you in advance. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com www.elkingtonfamily.com http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ELKINGTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ELKINGTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am looking for all Elkingtons in New Zealand, there are quite a few, as I would like to make contact with them. Those of you on the list I would be very pleased to hear from you. Arthur Elkington came to New Zealand with the British Army. In 1865 he met a Maori girl, called Marara Horomona and they were married in Wellington in 1865. This precluded Arthur from serving further in the British Army and he was moved to serve in the Commissary General's Department as a Deputy. Marara and Arthur had two children; John Ratapu Arthur and Terewai Grace born in 1866 and 1867 respectively. I do have two lovely portraits of Terewai Grace and Wetekia which I could forward to you. I am now looking for their descendants. Whilst looking on the internet I found this website run by _http://turiandnuielkington.com/_ (http://turiandnuielkington.com/) But they do not give an email contact just an Admin address but they have not replied.. I wondered if any one could put me in touch with them or any Elkingtons in New Zealand. The story of Arthur's arrival in New Zealand can be found at _http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/arthurelkingtonnewzealand.htm_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/arthurelkingtonnewzealand.htm) I do hope someone will reply. Thanking you in advance. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyElkington70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elkington/14.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Roger, I know its eight years ago when you enquired about Albin Elkington b.1856 in Bourton, Oxfordshire but I am busy cross checking all my notes. Do you have a death date and place for him in America. Regards Judy Elkington www.elkingtonfamily.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, Happy new year to you all. I have two William Elkingtons born in the same year of 1849. The vfirst one appears as the illegitimate son of Sussannah Elkington b.7 Jun 1849 in Gt. Bourton. The other one seems to be born in the same year but is the son of William b.1849 and husband of Elizabeth Hartwell, and son of William and Eliza Coy. Could anyone look at their record to see if they are two separate men. I have been unable so far to prove anything. Regards, JUDY ELKINGTON www.elkingtonfamily.com