Kent, I am not researching this particular line, but I was wondering if you had come across any information on Richard, James Llewallen (Lou Allen), or James Henry in your searches. They also hailed from about the same area. Richard was said to have been the brother to Samuel and John, who came here from Scotland? Don't have any proof of that as yet. Lou Allen is a mystery and so is Richard for the most part. I have founded many SKIPPED generations because of the fact that they used the same names SOOOOO much! Thanks, Jayne -----Original Message----- From: Kent A. Elam, Jr. [mailto:kbjrelam@villagrove.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 11:17 PM To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] John and Martha Elam Hi, For some time, I was lead to believe that my ggggrandfather was Daniel Elam. That is not correct. I even made several posts to that effect. I have since discovered that he is in fact John Elam. On December 5, 1835, John married Martha Yancey, daughter of Charles Yancey, by a Rev. John B. Smith in Mecklenburg county VA. Sometime before 1850, he moved to Granville county, NC where he is found residing next to a Richard T. Elam (son of Daniel, son of Peter, son of Joel) in the 1850 census. I find John and Martha in Iredell county, NC in 1860 and 1870. In 1880, Martha is alone in Iredell county with her youngest children and some of the older children are now married and residing in the county. John has died abt. 1875. A Will is probated about this time for him. John and Martha had the following children: (the grandchildren listed are from the 1880 census, I have not researched any farther yet) Mary, born abt. 1836 Elizabeth, born abt. 1844 (married to a Johnson?) Silas, born abt. 1847; married to Tabitha (?) (children Olla R. born abt. 1872; James born abt. 1875; Augustus, born abt. 1877) Martha, born abt. 1849 Nannie or Nancy, born abt. 1851 (married to a Saffriet or Saffrit) John Daniel, born 2/14/1852; died 7/25/1933 THIS IS WHO I DESCEND THROUGH Isabella or Arabella, born abt. 1853; married to Calvin C. Stroud (children Augustus E. born abt. 1872; Della M. born abt. 1880) Richard, born abt. 1855; married to Mary G. (?) (children Opha, born abt. 1879) Charles, born abt. 1859 Rowland, born abt. 1861 Alice, born abt. 1864 (married to a Wallace) Is anyone researching any of these people. I would love to know more about them. I would also like to discover who John's parents are. I am suspicious that John may be the youngest son of Peter Elam (son of Joel) in Mecklenburg Co. VA. The time and place is correct. Could someone shed some light on this for me. There are also these following coincidences that lead me to this conclusion: 1. Peter's oldest son is Daniel. He has two daughters, Susan and Mary Ann. They both marry Yancey men. Susan marries Reason P. Yancey and Mary Ann marries Alexander, both sons of Charles Yancey. Also, there is some conection to a Daniel from family recollection. We were once lead to believe that my John Daniel's father was named Daniel. 2. My John Elam marries Martha Yancey, daughter of Charles, sister to Reason and Alexander. 3. The same minister marries all three couples, John B. Smith in Mecklenburg County, VA. They all come from the same area and it seems they all attended church together. 4. In 1850, John and Martha Elam are residing in Granville county, NC alongside Richard T. Elam, oldest son of Daniel Elam of Mecklenburg County, VA. 5. Granville Co. NC is right across the border from Mecklenburg Co. VA. 6. The names of all the children of these families mirror each other, this was something I was told that the Elams did. I would enjoy hearing from anyone on this matter, Thanks in advance, Kent Elam