Bob -- Thanks for the tip re the free ancestry.com access. I checked almost every database that looked likely for early HINES (& many variants) in northeastern colonies / states. The most intriguing one that I found is for James HINES, 1716 in Boston Mass. [a city with a long-lasting Irish connection!!] Here are the extracts reflecting my search findings: Database: Pioneer Irish in New England source: free Thanksgiving database at ancestry.com on 981129 Field Search Matches [Any] HINES=1 [HYNES=nil=HYNDS=HYNDES=HINDS=HINDES=HINE=HYNE & also O'HI/O'HY variants with & w/o the "'"] & OINS and O'INS 1 Combined Matches "Pioneer Irish in New England SOME NEW ENGLAND IRISH OF THE FIRST QUARTER Or THE EIGHTEENTH CENTURY page 306 James Hines* Boston, Mass. 1716" Database Description: This detailed work sets forth the history and happenings of Irish immigrants to America in the seventeenth century. Important historical events are described, groups of immigrants are identified, and many prominent individuals and their families are discussed. This database will help inviduals who are searching for early Irish immigrants and the historical backgound of their lives. Bibliography: O'Brien, Michael J., LL.D. Pioneer Irish in New England. New York, NY: P. J. Kennedy & Sons, 1937. ======================================= GRH NOTE: Given the 1716 timing, (the Palatinate immigration from both Europe and Ireland began in 1709) I checked it for several word's I'd expect to find... (if HINES came from Irish/Palatinate roots) This dbase had nil results for words: palatine(s), palatinate(s), prussia(n) and german However, "austria(n)" had this interesting item (this also pertains to Doug's note today in which he wondered if the HINES possible knew the YOUNGs (JUNGs) from the Rhineland): "Pioneer Irish in New England PREFACE page viii The year 1650 finds Cromwell crushing out the revolt in Ireland in savage bloodshed and destruction, leaving the country a veritable desert. The land was divided between Cromwells army and English adventurers, and the Catholic proprietors were driven across the Shannon. About 34,000 Irish soldiers emigrated for the service of France, Spain, Austria and Venice. They were not accompanied by their wives and children, who were afterwards hunted down and sent to the worst form of tropic slavery. In fact the number of women and children transported to the West Indies and the Colonies has been estimated as over 20,000---some say as much as 100,000. What proportion reached the American mainland? In this book Dr. OBrien mentions a few who reached the Colonies from Barbados. I heard the late Monsignor Segourney Fay of Philadelphia say that he traced his ancestry back to an Irish fugitive from Barbados.1 To which Colonies did they mostly go? What became of them? Did some of the Irish soldiers in Europe find ways of rejoining their transported relations? Such questions await a thorough investigation. For a short period after the Restoration (1660) some leniency was shown the Catholics, while on the other hand, through the enforcement of the Uniformity Act, Non-Conformists underwent a persecution that drove a number to the Puritan Colonies of New England." --- It is noteworthy here to observe that Irish men had emigrated (involuntarily) in large numbers into Europe before the 1700s.. This could be a backdrop as to why England would (re?)patriate many Palatinates in 1709 to (re)colonize Ireland and much of the British commonwealth overseas.... History's fascinating, eh? // Regards, Gord (in Regina) RWa5352802@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/26/98 1:18:29 AM Central Standard Time, > landz@ix.netcom.com writes: > > > =================================================== > > FREE THANKSGIVING DATABASES > > <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> > > ======================================================= > > Until we come back to work on Monday, the following databases will be > > available free to all visitors at Ancestry.com. > > > > ~ Index of Massachusetts Pioneers > > ~ Pioneer Irish in New England > > ~ History of Cambridge Massachusetts > > ~ Founders of Old Dunstable > > ~ Boston Vital Records > > ~ Freemen of Massachusetts > > ~ Genealogical Register of Plymouth Families > > ~ Plymouth Colony: History and People > > ~ Founders of New England > > ~ Pioneers of Massachusetts > > ~ Genealogical Dictionary of New England Settlers > > ~ Massachusetts Town Vital Records Collection > > > > To access these databases go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search.asp > > Then go to "Other Free Databases" in the top section, and select the > > database of your choice. [snipped]