Hi, For some time, I was lead to believe that my ggggrandfather was Daniel Elam. That is not correct. I even made several posts to that effect. I have since discovered that he is in fact John Elam. On December 5, 1835, John married Martha Yancey, daughter of Charles Yancey, by a Rev. John B. Smith in Mecklenburg county VA. Sometime before 1850, he moved to Granville county, NC where he is found residing next to a Richard T. Elam (son of Daniel, son of Peter, son of Joel) in the 1850 census. I find John and Martha in Iredell county, NC in 1860 and 1870. In 1880, Martha is alone in Iredell county with her youngest children and some of the older children are now married and residing in the county. John has died abt. 1875. A Will is probated about this time for him. John and Martha had the following children: (the grandchildren listed are from the 1880 census, I have not researched any farther yet) Mary, born abt. 1836 Elizabeth, born abt. 1844 (married to a Johnson?) Silas, born abt. 1847; married to Tabitha (?) (children Olla R. born abt. 1872; James born abt. 1875; Augustus, born abt. 1877) Martha, born abt. 1849 Nannie or Nancy, born abt. 1851 (married to a Saffriet or Saffrit) John Daniel, born 2/14/1852; died 7/25/1933 THIS IS WHO I DESCEND THROUGH Isabella or Arabella, born abt. 1853; married to Calvin C. Stroud (children Augustus E. born abt. 1872; Della M. born abt. 1880) Richard, born abt. 1855; married to Mary G. (?) (children Opha, born abt. 1879) Charles, born abt. 1859 Rowland, born abt. 1861 Alice, born abt. 1864 (married to a Wallace) Is anyone researching any of these people. I would love to know more about them. I would also like to discover who John's parents are. I am suspicious that John may be the youngest son of Peter Elam (son of Joel) in Mecklenburg Co. VA. The time and place is correct. Could someone shed some light on this for me. There are also these following coincidences that lead me to this conclusion: 1. Peter's oldest son is Daniel. He has two daughters, Susan and Mary Ann. They both marry Yancey men. Susan marries Reason P. Yancey and Mary Ann marries Alexander, both sons of Charles Yancey. Also, there is some conection to a Daniel from family recollection. We were once lead to believe that my John Daniel's father was named Daniel. 2. My John Elam marries Martha Yancey, daughter of Charles, sister to Reason and Alexander. 3. The same minister marries all three couples, John B. Smith in Mecklenburg County, VA. They all come from the same area and it seems they all attended church together. 4. In 1850, John and Martha Elam are residing in Granville county, NC alongside Richard T. Elam, oldest son of Daniel Elam of Mecklenburg County, VA. 5. Granville Co. NC is right across the border from Mecklenburg Co. VA. 6. The names of all the children of these families mirror each other, this was something I was told that the Elams did. I would enjoy hearing from anyone on this matter, Thanks in advance, Kent Elam

Am looking for the parents and siblings of Elizabeth ELAM b. early 1700s probably in VA. She married Richard CHURCH. The only child of Richard CHURCH and Elizabeth ELAM that I have found is Elizabeth CHURCH b c 1759 in Halifax Co., VA; m. Robert JORDAN, SR. c 1778 in Halifax Co., VA; d. 1831, probably in Halifax Co., VA. Any leads on Elizabeth ELAM's parents and siblings would be appreciated. Doug Scroggs Lee's Summit, MO

Hello Elam researchers, I was looking through the 1850 census for another relative of mine and happened across the following: Henry Elam 32 Farmer born in Tenn Elizabeth 30 born in Tenn Sarah 8 born in Tenn (deaf) Caroline 5 born in Tenn Mary A. 4 born in Tenn I don't know if anyone can use this but I just wanted to share the information. Kent Elam

Forwarding the following from another list. Maybe there's a clue here for someone. Annette --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- >To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Death of O.E. Pilson >Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:33:41 -0500 >>Old-To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com >>From: Truman Adkins <tadkins@kimbanet.com> >>Subject: Death of O.E. Pilson >>Resent-From: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com >From Martinsville Bulletin, 19 January 1999: >O.E. Pilson, a longtime educator in both Patrick and Henry counties, and an author >and genealogist, died Monday morning...........at his home in Ridgeway. He was 88. >Born Ophus Eugene Pilson on Jan. 18, 1910 in the Elamsville section of Patrick >County, he attended Elamsville School and the Blue Ridge Mission School, which >closed in 1941. Pilson later worked on a successful effort to get a state historical >marker placed at the mission school site, located in the Buffalo Ridge section of >Patrick County.............. >After retirement, Pilson became a genealogist researching the history of cemeteries in >Patrick County. For eight years he did research before authoring a book on tombstone >inscriptions. He also helped research and author a book on the history of Patrick >County. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Does anyone know anything about the Elam cemetery in Nashville, TN? I just got information that Francis Vannerson (d. 1 March 1864) was buried there. He married Elizabeth Elam (b. 1812, Rutherford Co., TN) ) in 1832 in Rutherford Co., TN. I believe she was the daughter of Daniel and Jane Elam. She lived with her brother Henry Elam in Nashville for a time and then, when her two sons who survived the war returned home, moved with them to Calvert City, KY, where she died in 1884. Francis and Elizabeth Elam Vannerson had three sons who fought for the Confederacy and the youngest, Francis Theodore, died in the war. He was born in 1844 and I have his date of death as 1 March 1864, the same as his father's -- ???. It could well be that he's also buried in the Elam cemetery so I hope some of you Elam cousins have information about this burying ground. Kate Lykins

http://www.interment.net/us/tn/index.htm Try thisURL... Herman kvlykins wrote: > Does anyone know anything about the Elam cemetery in Nashville, TN? > > I just got information that Francis Vannerson (d. 1 March 1864) was > buried there. He married Elizabeth Elam (b. 1812, Rutherford Co., > TN) ) in 1832 in Rutherford Co., TN. I believe she was the daughter > of Daniel and Jane Elam. She lived with her brother Henry > Elam in Nashville for a time and then, when her two sons who survived > the war returned home, moved with them to Calvert City, KY, where she > died in 1884. > > Francis and Elizabeth Elam Vannerson had three sons who fought for > the Confederacy and the youngest, Francis Theodore, died in the war. > He was born in 1844 and I have his date of death as 1 March 1864, > the same as his father's -- ???. It could well be that he's also > buried in the Elam cemetery so I hope some of you Elam cousins have > information about this burying ground. > > Kate Lykins

We Elams just can't stay out of trouble. Marilynn ---------- > From: Annette E Wetzel <awetzel@juno.com> > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Mary Elam - Who Was She? > Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 5:47 AM > > In a recent Journal of the Chesterfield County Historical Society, I saw > this heading: > "A Sampling of Criminal Causes from the County Court of Chesterfield > 1752-1806." One of the cases listed was: "1767 - The King vs. Matthew > Turpin for assault and battery against Mary Elam." > > Looked it up in the VA State Archives and found not one, but two separate > cases involving Mary Elam. The record of court proceedings apparently no > longer exist, and there is nothing in the court order books. These "loose > papers" were found in the Chesterfield (VA) County Clerk's office and > microfilmed a few years ago. They consist mainly of warrents and bail > bonds written on small pieces of paper in beautiful Victorian script. > Hard to read, though! Anyone know what this case was about or which of > the several Mary Elams was involved? > > Case #1 > (Document 1) > Chesterfield County to wit > The Sworn for our lord the King on their oaths present That Matthew > Turpin on the ___ day of Aug't in the Year of our lord one Thousand Seven > hundred and Sixty five at the parish of Dale in the County aforesaid with > Force and Arms to wit Swords and Staves an assault upon Mary Elam then & > there being he the said Matthew Turpin did make and harm the said Mary > Elam did then & there beat & wound & wil'fy treat against the Peace of > our Said lord the King his Crown & Dignity. > > Mary Elam Sworn in Court. [Signed] B Watkins > > (Document 2) > George the third by the grace of god of great Britain, france and Ireland > King Defender of the faith, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County: > greeting. We command you to Summon Mary Elam and Obedience Elam to appear > before our Justices of our Said County at the Court house on the first > friday in October next to testafie and the Truth to Say on behalf of > [long blank space] in a certain Matter of Controversy in our said Court > before our Said Justices Depending and Undetermined between Us, Plt'f and > Matthew Turpin, Def. and this they Shall in no wise omit under the > penelty of Law. Witness Ben. Watkins, Clark of our Said Court at the > Court houses the fourth Day of September in seventh year of our reign. > [Signed] B Watkins > > (Document 3) > George the Third, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County: greeting. We > command you that you take Matthew Turpin & him keep & that you have his > Body before our Court of the said County on the first friday in April > next to answer us of those Things so hear of he stands indited and have > them there this Writ witnesseth B Watkins Clk of our said Court this > March 5 in the vii year of our Reign. [Signed] B Watkins > > (Document 4) > George the third, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County, greeting: We > command you that you sumon Matthew Turpin to appear before our Court of > the said County on the first friday in December next to answer us of > those things whereof he stands indited and have then there this Writ. > Witnesseth B. Watkins, Clk of our said Court the Seventh day of Nov in > the vii year of our Reign. [Signed] B Watkins > > (On the reverse of Document 4) > The King vs. Turpin Indictment for T. A. B. > 1767 March ACap > July Cont > Aug't Notify > Sep Cont > Oct Judgm > We find the within a True Bill. Jacob Ashurst > Wit. Mary Elam & Ob. Newby 50.00 > > Case #2 > (Document 1) > George the Third, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County, greeting. We > command you that you take Abram Pucket if he be found, etc. & him > [?infiily] keep so that you have his Body before our Court of the said > County at the Court House on the first friday in April next To answer us > & etc. concerning those Things whereof he stands indited and have then > there this Writ. Witness B Watkins Clk of our said Court the 5th day of > March in the vii year of our Reign. [Signed] B Watkins > (on the reverse) > Rex vs. Puckett > Executed John Cogbill > > (document 2) > George the third by the grace of god of Great Britain france and Ireland > King Defender of the faith, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County > Greeting: We command you to Summon Mary Elam and Obedience Elam to appear > before our Justices of our said County at the Court House on the first > friday in October next to Testify and the truth to say on behalf of Us in > a certain matter of Controversy in our said Court before our said > Justices depending and undetermined between Us Plt's and Abraham Puckett, > Def. and this they shall in no wise omit under the penalty of 100 pounds. > Witnesseth Ben Watkins, Clerk of our said Court at the said Court House > the fourth day of Sept in the seventh year of our reign. [Signed] B. > Watkins > (on the reverse) > The King agn. Pucket. Cap. > 1767 March A.C. > July P.C. > Aug't Notify > Sep Cont > Oct'r Judge'm > Wit. Mary Elam 50 > Wit. Obedience Newbye 50 > Copy Left. Jn. Smith > > (document 3) > Chesterfield County to wit: > The Jurors for our lord the King upon Their Oaths present That Abram > Pucket on the ___ day of October 1766 at the Parish of Dale & County > aforsaid with force & arms to wit Swords & Staves an assault upon Mary > Elam then & there being he the said Abram Pucket did make & her the said > Mary Elam did then and there beat and wound & willy treat against the > Peace of our said Lord the King, etc. > (on the reverse) > Rex vs. Pucket > Mary Elam sworn in Court. B. Watkins > We the Jurors do find the within a True Bill. Jacob Ashurst > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

This address was sent over another list, and I just thought everyone would maybe get some use of it. It will tell ya where a city, a town, a county, or states are. Very helpful, however, it doesn't show a map. Happy Hunting........easier to access than some of the others I have tried. http://www.mit.edu:8001/geo Your friend and possible cousin, Tina Houck grizzly@pacifier.com

It sounds as if it might be James Easter Elam. 'Tho I don't know what happened to James Easter Elam, very few of the early Elams remained in the areas of Lunenburg, Charlotte, or Mecklenburg Counties after 1830. James Easter Elam was born between 1790 and 1799 - probably closer to 1790. He married Polly Hurt on 20 Oct 1812 in Mecklenburg County. Do you have a will for him? If no, it might be useful to look for a will in Alabama. Also to look for associated family groups who may have immigrated to Alabama, since people rarely travelled to a new location totally alone. He had a sister named Charlotte who married Daniel Callis in 1813. According to his father's will, James Easter was to inherit his father's property after the death of his mother. The date and conditions under which that property was sold might give a clue as to whether he moved from this area. I, for one, would be interested in knowing more about him. Let us know on the list what you learn! Annette Elam Wetzel On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 22:31:41 -0800 "Billy R.Evans" <"brevans@cctc.net"@cctc.net> writes: >I'm searching for any information about James E. Elam who lived in >Cherokee County, Alabama, before 1836. His daughter, Elvira Elam, born >16 Oct 1816 in Virginia, married Samuel H. McCullough probably in >Cherokee County. Elvira Elam McCullough died 20 Feb 1886 and is buried >in Forrest Hill Cemetery, Cherokee County, Alabama. Is this James E. >Elam the same as James Easter Elam? The dates are about right. I'll be >glad to share any information that I have. >Doylene Evans ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

In a recent Journal of the Chesterfield County Historical Society, I saw this heading: "A Sampling of Criminal Causes from the County Court of Chesterfield 1752-1806." One of the cases listed was: "1767 - The King vs. Matthew Turpin for assault and battery against Mary Elam." Looked it up in the VA State Archives and found not one, but two separate cases involving Mary Elam. The record of court proceedings apparently no longer exist, and there is nothing in the court order books. These "loose papers" were found in the Chesterfield (VA) County Clerk's office and microfilmed a few years ago. They consist mainly of warrents and bail bonds written on small pieces of paper in beautiful Victorian script. Hard to read, though! Anyone know what this case was about or which of the several Mary Elams was involved? Case #1 (Document 1) Chesterfield County to wit The Sworn for our lord the King on their oaths present That Matthew Turpin on the ___ day of Aug't in the Year of our lord one Thousand Seven hundred and Sixty five at the parish of Dale in the County aforesaid with Force and Arms to wit Swords and Staves an assault upon Mary Elam then & there being he the said Matthew Turpin did make and harm the said Mary Elam did then & there beat & wound & wil'fy treat against the Peace of our Said lord the King his Crown & Dignity. Mary Elam Sworn in Court. [Signed] B Watkins (Document 2) George the third by the grace of god of great Britain, france and Ireland King Defender of the faith, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County: greeting. We command you to Summon Mary Elam and Obedience Elam to appear before our Justices of our Said County at the Court house on the first friday in October next to testafie and the Truth to Say on behalf of [long blank space] in a certain Matter of Controversy in our said Court before our Said Justices Depending and Undetermined between Us, Plt'f and Matthew Turpin, Def. and this they Shall in no wise omit under the penelty of Law. Witness Ben. Watkins, Clark of our Said Court at the Court houses the fourth Day of September in seventh year of our reign. [Signed] B Watkins (Document 3) George the Third, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County: greeting. We command you that you take Matthew Turpin & him keep & that you have his Body before our Court of the said County on the first friday in April next to answer us of those Things so hear of he stands indited and have them there this Writ witnesseth B Watkins Clk of our said Court this March 5 in the vii year of our Reign. [Signed] B Watkins (Document 4) George the third, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County, greeting: We command you that you sumon Matthew Turpin to appear before our Court of the said County on the first friday in December next to answer us of those things whereof he stands indited and have then there this Writ. Witnesseth B. Watkins, Clk of our said Court the Seventh day of Nov in the vii year of our Reign. [Signed] B Watkins (On the reverse of Document 4) The King vs. Turpin Indictment for T. A. B. 1767 March ACap July Cont Aug't Notify Sep Cont Oct Judgm We find the within a True Bill. Jacob Ashurst Wit. Mary Elam & Ob. Newby 50.00 Case #2 (Document 1) George the Third, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County, greeting. We command you that you take Abram Pucket if he be found, etc. & him [?infiily] keep so that you have his Body before our Court of the said County at the Court House on the first friday in April next To answer us & etc. concerning those Things whereof he stands indited and have then there this Writ. Witness B Watkins Clk of our said Court the 5th day of March in the vii year of our Reign. [Signed] B Watkins (on the reverse) Rex vs. Puckett Executed John Cogbill (document 2) George the third by the grace of god of Great Britain france and Ireland King Defender of the faith, etc. To the Sherif of Chesterfield County Greeting: We command you to Summon Mary Elam and Obedience Elam to appear before our Justices of our said County at the Court House on the first friday in October next to Testify and the truth to say on behalf of Us in a certain matter of Controversy in our said Court before our said Justices depending and undetermined between Us Plt's and Abraham Puckett, Def. and this they shall in no wise omit under the penalty of 100 pounds. Witnesseth Ben Watkins, Clerk of our said Court at the said Court House the fourth day of Sept in the seventh year of our reign. [Signed] B. Watkins (on the reverse) The King agn. Pucket. Cap. 1767 March A.C. July P.C. Aug't Notify Sep Cont Oct'r Judge'm Wit. Mary Elam 50 Wit. Obedience Newbye 50 Copy Left. Jn. Smith (document 3) Chesterfield County to wit: The Jurors for our lord the King upon Their Oaths present That Abram Pucket on the ___ day of October 1766 at the Parish of Dale & County aforsaid with force & arms to wit Swords & Staves an assault upon Mary Elam then & there being he the said Abram Pucket did make & her the said Mary Elam did then and there beat and wound & willy treat against the Peace of our said Lord the King, etc. (on the reverse) Rex vs. Pucket Mary Elam sworn in Court. B. Watkins We the Jurors do find the within a True Bill. Jacob Ashurst ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Kidd/ELAM Researchers: I have done so much to find this man, and then when I thought I had, his last name was spelled wrong on the internet, and the person who submitted the name I am unable to contact to have it changed. I have lost him in my search, seems he just disappeared, and I wonder if maybe the spelling of his name could be a factor? My 3rd great grandfather: Dillingham(Hamm) H. Kidd was born @ 1829 in Scott Co., VA and married 1)Francina (sina) Elam Oct. 27, 1852 in Morgan Co., KY. Francina was born @ 1828 in Scott Co., VA and died @ 1858 in Morgan Co., KY. It is believed that Francina was the daughter of Gilbert Elam b.@ 1796 and Catharine Cooley b.@ 1799. Together Francina and Dillingham had three children. NANCY b.@ 1851 and died Oct. 15, 1857 in Morgan Co., KY; SAMUEL b.@ 1855 KY died Feb. 29, 1924 Rowan Co., KY and was buried Mar. 2, 1924 in Pervis Cemetary, KY from his death cert. it states he died from 'Reported consumption of the bowels with out a physician'; LEE ANDREW (leander?) b.@1857 Rowan Co., KY, died Sept 29, 1933 in Rowan Co., KY buried Sept. 30, 1933 in Pervis Cemetary, KY. his cert. of death states he died of 'leakage of the heart 76 years old, no doctor'. Some of this information has been gotten from family, cousins, and from the census records, and death records. *Census ELAM 1850 Morgan Co., KY pg. 167, 1117/1117 *Census KIDD, Dillingham 1870 Wolfe Co., KY *Tombstone-Samuel Kidd *Vital records- Samuel and Lee Andrew D-Cert. *Other When Dillingham's wife Francina died, he remarried 2) Caroline Fortner. b. ?VA? died @1875, together they had 2 children, WILLIAM M. b.? m.@ 1878 Morgan Co., KY d. Mar. 26, 1912 p.d. ? he married RUTHA BROOKS; second child of Hamm and Caroline is Mary Elizabeth died@ 1935 and is buried Pigsmah cemetary Rt. 32 N. Rowan Co., KY. she married George Pence. I realize this is probably a long shot, but can someone point to a greener pasture. Dillingham has simply disappeared. And while this is a slow time it seems on the lists, I thought I would give it all too ya. Hope it is not overwhelming. Please, anything you can give would be HELPFUL and GREAT!!!!!! below I have included my general report from FTM 5.0. Thank you for your time, Tina Houck grizzly@pacifier.com ICQ# 17439046 mama bear Astoria, OR Descendants of Dillingham H. Kidd Generation No. 1 1. Dillingham H.1 Kidd was born 1829 in Scott Co., VA. He married (1) Francina Elam 27 October 1852 in Morgan Co., KY, daughter of Gilbert Elam and Catharine Cooley. He married (2) Caroline Fortner 12 July 1858 in Morgan Co., KY. More About Dillingham H. Kidd: Census: 1850, Morgan Co., KY pg. 167 1117/1117 Tombstone: 1924, Samuel Kidd Vital Records: Samuel and Lee Andrew D-cert More About Francina Elam: Census: 1850, Morgan Co., KY Children of Dillingham Kidd and Francina Elam are: + 2 i. Samuel2 Kidd, born 1855 in KY; died 29 February 1924 in Rowan Co., KY. 3 ii. Nancy Kidd, born 1851; died 15 October 1857 in Morgan Co., KY. 4 iii. Lee Andrew 'Leander' Kidd, born 1857 in Rowan Co., KY; died 29 September 1933 in Rowan Co., KY. More About Lee Andrew 'Leander' Kidd: Burial: 30 September 1933, Pervis Cemetary, KY Cause of Death (Facts Page): Leakage of the Heart Census: 1870, Wolfe Co., KY Occupation: Farmer Vital Records: 1933, Certificate of Death, KY Children of Dillingham Kidd and Caroline Fortner are: + 5 i. William M.2 Kidd, born Abt. 1858; died 26 March 1912. 6 ii. Mary Elizabeth Kidd, born Abt. 1860; died Abt. 1935 in Rowan Co., KY. She married George Pence. More About Mary Elizabeth Kidd: Burial: Abt. 1935, Pigsmah Cemetary, Rt. 32 N. Rowan co., KY Census: 1870, Wolfe Co., KY More About George Pence: Census: 1880, Breathitt Co., KY pg. 16, 131/131 Generation No. 2 2. Samuel2 Kidd (Dillingham H.1) was born 1855 in KY, and died 29 February 1924 in Rowan Co., KY. He married Mary Ann McBrayer, daughter of Lewis McBrayer and Louraney Triplett. More About Samuel Kidd: Burial: 02 March 1924, Pervis Cemetary, KY Occupation: Farmer Tombstone: Pervis Cemetary, KY More About Mary Ann McBrayer: Burial: Eastern State Mental Hosp. Grounds Cause of Death (Facts Pag: I have medical records from ESMH in KY. Legal: 1908, Trial DeLunatico Inquirendo Children of Samuel Kidd and Mary McBrayer are: 7 i. Rebecca Jane3 Kidd, born 1885 in Carter Co., KY; died 1929 in Portsmouth, OH. She married Maurice Creameans Bet. 1925 - 1929. More About Rebecca Jane Kidd: Occupation: Selby Shoe Mfg. Co. (owners) 8 ii. Benjamin Harrison Kidd, born 06 October 1887 in Carter Co., KY; died 04 October 1940 in Chillicothe, OH Veterans Hospital. He married Dallas Holsinger. More About Benjamin Harrison Kidd: Burial: 1940, Old Wheelersburg Cemetary, OH. Military service: WW I Honorary Discharge Occupation: Lumberjack/ Farm laborer + 9 iii. John Wesley Kidd I, born 24 November 1892 in Carter Co., KY; died 31 July 1954 in Portsmouth, Scioto Co., OH. + 10 iv. James Ellis Kidd, born 23 June 1894 in Carter Co., KY; died 23 November 1955 in Hillsboro, OH. 5. William M.2 Kidd (Dillingham H.1) was born Abt. 1858, and died 26 March 1912. He married Rutha Brooks 1878 in Morgan Co., KY. More About William M. Kidd: Census: 1870, Wolfe Co., KY Children of William Kidd and Rutha Brooks are: 11 i. Joan3 Kidd. 12 ii. Ida Kidd. 13 iii. Alvin Kidd. 14 iv. Clark Kidd. 15 v. Adrian Kidd. + 16 vi. Ronald Oran Kidd, died 1987 in St. Paul, AR. Generation No. 3 9. John Wesley3 Kidd I (Samuel2, Dillingham H.1) was born 24 November 1892 in Carter Co., KY, and died 31 July 1954 in Portsmouth, Scioto Co., OH. He married Mary Elizabeth Dyer, daughter of Tobias Dyer and Minerva Horner. More About John Wesley Kidd I: Occupation: Steel Mill worker Children of John Kidd and Mary Dyer are: 17 i. Olive Ruth4 Kidd, born 1916 in Portsmouth, OH; died 1972 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co., Ohio. She married Kyle Depoy. More About Olive Ruth Kidd: Cause of Death (Facts Page): Cancer 18 ii. Madeline 'Pat' Kidd, born 17 July 1918 in Portsmouth, OH. She married Homer Howard Staten. 19 iii. Rosalind 'Roz' Kidd, born 04 October 1921 in Portsmouth, OH. She married Nick Lopresti. 20 iv. John Wesley Kidd II, born 10 March 1924 in Portsmouth, OH. He married Josephine 'Norma' Elizabeth Wolf 14 March 1949 in Greenup, KY. More About John Wesley Kidd II: Military service: WW II Occupation: Coleman Patterson, sample maker Notes for Josephine 'Norma' Elizabeth Wolf: [Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 1 A-L, Ed. 6, Social Security Death Index: U.S., Date of Import: 8 Jan 1999, Internal Ref. #1.111.6.134608.92] Individual: Kidd, Norma Social Security #: 291-20-6586 Issued in: Ohio Birth date: 10 Aug 1927 Death date: 29 Jan 1991 More About Josephine 'Norma' Elizabeth Wolf: Baptism: 28 August 1927, St. John's Cathedral, Cleveland OH by Rev. James J. Duffy sponsord by Alexander Wolf and Margaret Johnson Confirmation: 24 March 1936, St. Peter's Church by the Most Rev. J.A. McFadden sponsored by Frances Potochar Fact 1: Social Security #: 291-20-65861 Fact 2: Issued in: Ohio1 First Communion: 12 May 1935, Saint Peter's Church, Cleveland, OH 21 v. Virginia Mae Kidd, born 01 November 1926 in Portsmouth, OH. She married Charles Miller. 10. James Ellis3 Kidd (Samuel2, Dillingham H.1) was born 23 June 1894 in Carter Co., KY, and died 23 November 1955 in Hillsboro, OH. He married Lena Ann Church 01 March 1918 in Portsmouth, Scioto Co., OH. More About James Ellis Kidd: Burial: Old Wheelersburg Cemetary, OH. More About Lena Ann Church: Cause of Death (Facts Pag: Asthma and Heart related Complications Children of James Kidd and Lena Church are: 22 i. Letha Lucille4 Kidd, born 21 January 1919. She married Richard Allen Henthorn 18 June 1938. 23 ii. Retha Louise Kidd, born 21 January 1919; died March 1920. More About Retha Louise Kidd: Burial: Portsmouth, OH, Hilltop cemetary Cause of Death (Facts Pag: Double Pneumonia 24 iii. Rebecca Eileen Kidd, born 21 February 1920; died March 1939 in Wheelersburg, OH. More About Rebecca Eileen Kidd: Burial: Wheelersburg, OH Cause of Death (Facts Pag: Ruptured Appendix 25 iv. Virgil Leslie Kidd, born 23 August 1922 in Williamsport, OH; died 13 May 1961. He married Phyllis Warehime. More About Virgil Leslie Kidd: Burial: Wheelersburg, OH, memorial cemetary Cause of Death (Facts Pag: Heart attack 26 v. Mildred May Kidd, born 13 May 1925 in Mt. Sterling, OH. She married Chritopher Columbus Riggs 24 September 1942. 27 vi. Lilly Grace Kidd, born 15 April 1927 in Wheelersburg, OH. She married Claude Winifred Sparks. 28 vii. James Ellis Kidd Jr., born 24 September 1929. He married Edna Mae Zornes. 16. Ronald Oran3 Kidd (William M.2, Dillingham H.1) died 1987 in St. Paul, AR. He married Ada Fox 1916 in Menifer Co., KY. More About Ronald Oran Kidd: Source: Dorthy Hunter, KY Child of Ronald Kidd and Ada Fox is: 29 i. Delta4 Kidd, born 22 September 1919 in Menifee Co., KY. She married Waverly Doran Buchanan 1936 in Menifee Co., KY. More About Waverly Doran Buchanan: Burial: 14 February 1990, Mt. Sterling, KY Occupation: Heavy Equipment Operator Endnotes 1. Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 1, Ed. 6, Social Security Death Index: U.S., Date of Import: 8 Jan 1999, Internal Ref. #1.111.6.134608.92

Hello Howard -- Sorry to be so long in getting back to you. The Elam family has a coat of arms. I have uploaded a copy of it to my website. You will find a link to it at the bottom of my main page at www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/6831 I came across some information on it in a heraldry or peerage book (I think maybe Burke's) many years ago, but have lost the copy I made of it and haven't yet been able to find it again. As I recall, the information was very sketchy. As for information on the family in England, none of us know very much. There have been fairly recent findings concerning the christening dates of a Gilbert and Martin Elam in Thurnscoe, Yorkshire. It is believed that these may be two of the the immigrant Elams who came over in the early 1600s, although the evidence is only circumstantial. By this I mean that the dates are a good fit and it would appear to be somewhat more than coincidental that there were two brothers named Martin and Gilbert who came from the area of Yorkshire where it is believed the family originated. There has not, however, been any definitive link made to date. There are also a couple of possible candidates in the same area who could have been the immigrant Robert, but nothing definite there either. I'm sorry I can't be of any more help. Quite a few of us are working on the origins of Robert, Gilbert, Martin and Richard (an 18th century Elam immigrant). If you happen to have come across any additional information, we would all very much like to hear about it. Good luck with your research. Cassie

Does anyone know anything about a Henry King Elam that married an Elizabeth Haley????????????? Thanks Starr Campbell

Hi, Elams. Am forwarding this ongoing discussion to you from another list. Annette From: awetzel@juno.com To: Pamhutgar@aol.com Cc: VACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VACHESTE-L] Re: Cox's Snow of 1857 Some Elam descendants have many connections to Traylors, Coxes, and Markhams. As of now, I have no proven connection to them. Lots of clues, but no proof. An article written by me about Clover Hill House for the United Daughters of the Confederacy Magazine 'way back in 1988 contains some additional historical information, but no genealogical info. "My Confederate Girlhood," the diary of Kate Cox Logan, edited by her daughter, Lily Logan Morrill, has been reprinted at least once. Can give you the publisher later. Julia T. Elam, who, according to the Virginia 'Old Marriage Index,' married V. D. Markham in Chesterfield County in 1853 (no day or month listed), was the daughter of William Green Elam. William G. Elam, who married 1) Sally Cox, dau. of Henry Cox; m.b. 6 July 1803; and 2) Jane Wooldridge, m.b. 14 June 1830, was the son of Richard Elam whose will was proved 2 Jan 1792, also in Chesterfield County. The recently published "Gone But Not Forgotten," Gravestone Inscriptions & Burials of Chesterfield County, Virginia, Compiled by The Cemetery Committee of The Chesterfield Historical Society of Virginia, Edited by Rachel Baker Lipowicz, 1998, reveals the following: page 138: "ELAM-MARKHAM CEMETERY [No location given] This cemetery was visited in the 1980's. At that time there appeared to be about 7 burials and 4 stones. We rechecked the cemetery in 1996 and learned that 2 of the stones had been stolen and another dragged across a field and then left there because it was too heavy. At this writing only the stones of Lily Elam and Julia Markham remain. ELAM, Fanny d. 1858 ELAM, Lily Somerville Nov 4, 1855-Aug 8, 1856; 'In Memory Of;' 'A Crown Is On Thy Angel Brow/Thine Eye The King Doth See/Thy Home Is With The Seraphs Now/We Joy That Thou Art Free' MARKHAM, infant d. 1855; son of V.D. & Julie Markham MARKHAM, Julie T d. Aug 14, 1856; aged 20 years, 7 months & 13 days; wife of V. D. Markham; daughter of William G. & Jane A. Elam; 'An Affectionate Child, A Loving Sister, A Devoted Wife, A Fond Mother, Ardent Friend & True Christian, Faultless In Every Relation, She Sustained In Life Though Cut Down In The Morning Bloom & Freshness,' 'Though Brightness Hath Passed From The Earth/Yet A Star Is Newborn In The Sky/& A Soul Hath Gone Home To The Land Of Birth/Where Are Pleasure & Fullness of Joy/& A New Harp Is Strung/& A New Song Is Given/To The Breezes That Float O'er The Gardens Of Heaven'." [My note: According to the Virginia Old Birth Index, Lily Sommerville was born Lilla Summerville on Nov 4, 1855 in Chesterfield County to Leander and Catty T. Elam. Leander Elam, age 23 m. Caroline F. Toomar, age 21 in Norfolk County 6 Apr 1854] --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Pamhutgar@aol.com To: awetzel@juno.com Cc: Pamhutgar@aol.com Subject: Re: [VACHESTE-L] Re: Cox's Snow of 1857 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:05:01 EST Dear Annette, I just joined the Chestefield co, Va List a few days back and the first posting that came to my mailbox was your information on "Cox's Snow". What a treat for me, as I have been researching on my Markham family of Chesterfield co, Va for almost 20 years now. The Traylors and Coxs are descendants of the Markhams so I immediatedly recognized the names in your note. I had never heard this story before and it was quite fascinating--actually very sad! I have written to "MadameDuck" to see if we might be able to exchange information. I was just wondering if you also had a family connection to Markham, Cox or Traylor. I was particularly interested in the mention of the Diary of Kate Cox Logan, which was published in 1930 and entitled "My Confederate Girlhood". Do you know anything further of this book? I would certainly enjoy reading it. A quick question---as I could not help noticing your maiden name Elam. For many years now I have been trying to identify Julia T Elam who married Vincent D Markham 14 Nov 1852/3 in Chesterfield co, Va. I suspect she is the same young lady, Julia Elam, shown in the 1850 census as a student at the Female Academy in Prince Edward co, Va, under the teacher, John Tinsley. She is age 16. I have not been successful at placing her with her family. I believe that Julia Elam Markham died shortly after the birth of her only son Clifford Markham, said to be in 1853. The child also died young. I believe that her young husband was greatly bereaved, as he quickly moved off to Kansas and then on to Denver Colorado where he lived to be a distinguished and honored Judge of that territory. He remarried, but never had any other children. I have always wanted to know more about Julia Elam---just wondered if you might have any thoughts to offer. Please know how much I appreciated your interesting "sharing". I would enjoy hearing from you, at your convenience. Most sincerely, Pamela Garrett Pamhutgar@aol.com Oklahoma City, Ok In a message dated 98-12-29 19:55:24 EST, you write: << ubj: [VACHESTE-L] Re: Cox's Snow of 1857 Date: 98-12-29 19:55:24 EST From: awetzel@juno.com (Annette E Wetzel) Reply-to: VACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com Quoting from "Chesterfield County Early Architecture and Historic Sites," by Jeff O'Dell, pub. by County of Chesterfield, VA, c. 1983, page 213: "In January, 1857, during one of the greatest recorded snowstorms in Virginia history - thereafter referred to as "Cox's Snow" - Dr. Edwin Cox, former mayor of Petersburg and brother of Judge James H. Cox, froze to death at the entrance to Clover Hill. Accompanied by Archer Traylor, a young kinsman, Cox was stranded in the snow while returning to his home plantation north of Clover Hill after calling on a patient in Petersburg. At the gate to Clover Hill, both men were overcome by the cold. According to Kate Cox Logan: 'The next morning...at the gate to the lane leading to the residence of Judge James H. Cox, seven hundred yards from the house, were discovered covered by a snowdrift, the frozen body of Dr. Cox; the horse frozen to death; the buggy in which Dr. Cox had been driving and in it the unconscious form of Mr. Traylor. Though alive when found, he never regained consciousness, and died at Judge Cox's residence. Eight mules were required to break a path to carry the notice of the death of Dr. Cox to Petersburg, and although the start was made in the morning early, it was late in the afternoon before the news reached there.'" [Note: Clover Hill was the plantation of Judge James H. Cox (1810-1877), on which coal reserves were discovered in 1837, and is located in the Winterpock area of Chesterfield County, VA. Judge Cox was the son of Henry Cox (1777-1856), who lived at Sappony, a plantation about five miles west of Clover Hill. Kate Cox was the daughter of Judge Cox. After the War Between the States, Kate Cox married Gen. Thomas M. Logan of South Carolina. She kept a diary which was edited and published in the 1930's by her daughter, Lilly Logan as "My Confederate Girlhood."] Hope this helps! Annette Elam Wetzel On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:41:54 EST MadameDuck@aol.com writes: >Has anyone ever heard of Cox's snow of 1857?? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Does the following info fit anyone's ELAM family line? Dixie Lee Wolfe in Granbury, TX. W. D. ELAM was her grandfather. She has a copy of his marriage license. He married Maggie ENGLAND on April 20, 1892 in Gainesville, Cook County, TX. She does not know the name of his parents, but believes that they lived in North Carolina. Maggie England was from Cleburne, TX. Dixie said that she has an aunt, Myrtle ELAM Rainey, who is 94 years old and lives in Oklahoma City, OK. Thanks much. Mary (Brown) Kunkle mary.kunkle@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Looking for children of the following two couples. 1. Macon Mason "Mack" ELAM Married: Peggy Smith JOINES Born: 5 April 1892 in Barry, Missouri Married: Died: 8 October 1966 in Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma and is buried in Elm Springs Cemetery Mack & Peggy ELAM had at least one daughter, Virginia. 2. Bessie E. ELAM Married: Emery BETTES Born: June 1895 in Arkansas Married: Died: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Thanks much for any help. Mary (Brown) Kunkle mary.kunkle@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

AELAM@TIDEPOOL.COM ? ABOUT BRITAIN HERALDRY IN BRITAIN HOWARD ELAM

DEAR CASSIE; MY NAME IS HOWARD ELAM, AND I KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT THE ELAM'S IN THE U.S.A. DATING BACK TO THE 1600'S. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE FAMILY IN ENGLAND BEFORE THE 1600'S, AS IN 1. DID WE HAVE A COAT OF ARMS, AND HOW IT LOOKED 2. HERALDRY IN THE FAMILY 3. ? OF PEERAGE IN BRITAIN THANK FOR YOUR HELP, HOWARD

1860 Census Nebraska Territory, St. Johns Dakota County 362 220 Elam, A. M. 44 m Farmer 3000 2000 Virginia Elam, Catharine 33 f Illinois Elam, Anomente [?] 12 f Illinois Elam, Mary Alice 10 f Illinois -- Bob George Surprise, Arizona http://www.doitnow.com/~moravia/index.html The Crooked Tree's Census On Line & The Taulbee Pages George, Taulbee, Brady, Bailey, Dressback