This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ABA75B03CABED847267F853C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I would like a copy. My gggrandmother was an Elam and I have heard tales about this so there may be a link for me here. I would appreciate hearing from you and receiving a copy. Sincerely, Douglas Crater ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > ELAM-ROOTS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 60 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Samuel Elam [Ken <kenl@sheltonbbs.com>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from ELAM-ROOTS-D, send a message to > > ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Samuel Elam > Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:03:03 -0500 > From: Ken <kenl@sheltonbbs.com> > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > Cassie, > > Please send a copy to me. Thanks. > > Ken > > At 01:46 AM 4/5/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I've only skimmed the recent posts re: Samuel Elam, so I hope I'm not > >being redundant, but as to his religious preference, the following is > >found in "Recollections of Olden Times" by Hazard, Thomas R., and > >Hazard, Willis P., p.88: > > > > "The only other tree left standing > > was the old historic button wood tree that now > > lies in ruins on the spot where it fell more than > > twenty years ago, on the Samuel Elam, or > > Vaucluse, estate. > > > > This place was named Vaucluse by the old > > English Quaker gentleman from his fancying that > > a bitter disappointment he experienced in a love > > affair with Miss Redwood, the then reigning > > beauty and belle of Newport, bore some > > resemblance to the torments Petrarch endured > > through his unfortunate passion for Laura." > > > >p.90 > > "Samuel Elam, an English gentleman of fortune, > > inherited the Vaucluse estate from his uncle, > > Jarvis Elam, and laid out and commenced the > > embellishment of the grounds shortly after the > > British left the Island in 1779. " > > > >p. 91 > > "His cellar was stored > > with the choicest wines and liquors, which, > > though a Quaker himself pledged to "temperance > > in all things," his politeness and good-breeding > > could not permit him to compel his guests to > > indulge in without the convivial assistance of > > their host. Mr. Elam's habit in this respect so grew > > upon him that Friends of his religious persuasion > > at last felt required by their book of discipline to > > deal with him as an offender, because of his lack > > of sufficient abstinence from the intoxicating > > fluid. He was, in accordance with the society's > > usage, notified that on a certain fourth day of the > > week a committee appointed by the monthly > > meeting of Newport would call at his house on > > business deemed of importance, in the way of > > counsel and reproof." > > > >This book devotes 7 pages to Samuel Elam. While I cannot reprint it in > >its entirety here, if anyone is interested, I will be happy to e-mail > >them a copy. > > > >Cassie > > > > > > --------------ABA75B03CABED847267F853C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="FAMILIES.txt" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="FAMILIES.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ***Working on the following Families: Crater (Greter), Sharp, White, Wooten, Weisner, Campbell, Wallace, Mullis, Elam, Minish, Speaks, York, Hampton, Templeton, Mahaffey, Money, Myers, York, and Ball --------------ABA75B03CABED847267F853C--

Cassie, Please send a copy to me. Thanks. Ken At 01:46 AM 4/5/99 -0500, you wrote: >I've only skimmed the recent posts re: Samuel Elam, so I hope I'm not >being redundant, but as to his religious preference, the following is >found in "Recollections of Olden Times" by Hazard, Thomas R., and >Hazard, Willis P., p.88: > > "The only other tree left standing > was the old historic button wood tree that now > lies in ruins on the spot where it fell more than > twenty years ago, on the Samuel Elam, or > Vaucluse, estate. > > This place was named Vaucluse by the old > English Quaker gentleman from his fancying that > a bitter disappointment he experienced in a love > affair with Miss Redwood, the then reigning > beauty and belle of Newport, bore some > resemblance to the torments Petrarch endured > through his unfortunate passion for Laura." > >p.90 > "Samuel Elam, an English gentleman of fortune, > inherited the Vaucluse estate from his uncle, > Jarvis Elam, and laid out and commenced the > embellishment of the grounds shortly after the > British left the Island in 1779. " > >p. 91 > "His cellar was stored > with the choicest wines and liquors, which, > though a Quaker himself pledged to "temperance > in all things," his politeness and good-breeding > could not permit him to compel his guests to > indulge in without the convivial assistance of > their host. Mr. Elam's habit in this respect so grew > upon him that Friends of his religious persuasion > at last felt required by their book of discipline to > deal with him as an offender, because of his lack > of sufficient abstinence from the intoxicating > fluid. He was, in accordance with the society's > usage, notified that on a certain fourth day of the > week a committee appointed by the monthly > meeting of Newport would call at his house on > business deemed of importance, in the way of > counsel and reproof." > >This book devotes 7 pages to Samuel Elam. While I cannot reprint it in >its entirety here, if anyone is interested, I will be happy to e-mail >them a copy. > >Cassie > > >

>From the "Index to Compiled Service Records of Volunteer Union Soldiers from Missouri." The library also has this type of record for SOME Confederate soldiers and I'll work on copying them next week. I'll have access to the next step of the process, the Compiled Service Records, for the several weeks. I'll be happy to look at those records if any of the following names are of interest. Please e-mail me direct and use the same Subject as this message. Also, please use your "copy and paste" to identify the names and units of interest. ELAM, Francis M. Co. E & F; 8th MO Inf.; Pvt ELAM, Franklin 29th MO Inf.; Pvt ELAM, Henry Co. E; 15th MO Inf., Pvt ELAM, James H. Co. L; 8th MO S.M. Cav.; Pvt Also, Co. E; 14th MO SM Cav. ELAM, Jesse Co. E; 1st MO SM Cav. ELAM, John W. Co. K & C; 1st MO Cav.; 1st Sgt/2nd Lt. ELAM, Thomas J. Batty. GM; 1st MO Lt. Arty.; Corpl/Sgt. ELAM, William H. Co. B; Phelps Regt. MO Inf.; Pvt ELAM, William M. Co. E; 21st MO Inf.; Pvt ELEM, James H. Capt. Millicoats Co. (N), Greene Co. Regt. MO H.G. Appears on record of allowances made by the Hawkins Taylor Commission. ELEM, James H. Co. E; 14th MO SM Cav.; Pvt. Original filed under James H. ELAM ELEM, William M. Co. E; 21 MO Inf.; Pvt Original filed under Wm. M. ELAM ELIM, James H. Co. L; 8th MO SM Cav.; Pvt Original filed under James H. ELAM ELIM, Jesse Co. E; 1st MO SM Cav.; Pvt ELIM, Tillman Co. M; 4th MO SM Cav.; Pvt ELIM, Tillman Co. D; 14th MO SM Cav.; Pvt EALEM, William Batty; 1st MO L. Arty; Pvt ELAIN, Thomas J. Batty G; 1 MO L Arty; 1 Sgt/2 Lt. Original filed under Thomas J. ELAM Regards, Bob Walker

Herman Belcher Sr. (me) Maggie Lou Elam Belcher (1911-1991) William Buchanan Elam (1878-1949) Henry Hiram Elam (1854-1938) Hiram Elam (1805-1871) John S. Elam (b.1748)...(unproven) Cannot get any other connects pass John S. Elam.. Herman

I visited the Black Jack Cemetery, near Baldwin City, KS, today and photographed the following headstones. Would appreciate hearing from anyone recognizing the names. The headstones were inscribed: "Elijah ELAM, Co. A, 72 En Mo Mil" (72nd Enrolled Missouri Militia). This is my gg-grandfather. His parents were Reuben ELAM and Leah LANCE. ELAM Daniel B. 1852 - 1881 Cynthia Caroline His Wife 1850 - 1909 Infant - 1881 Daniel's parents were George W. ELAM and Martha HARPOLE. George W.'s parents were Reuben ELAM and Leah LANCE. Regards, Bob Walker

Ruth, sorry not to have responded sooner; I am frantically trying to complete my book and did not check e-mail for 2-3 days. Here is a paraphrase of what I have written in a chapter in which I discuss John Elam Jr. (c. 1710-1788) of Chesterfield Co.: On 2 December 1743, John Jr. acquired from Philip Worsham 120 acres in the Winterpock area, bounded by Philip Jones and James Hill [Weisiger, Henrico County, Virginia, Deeds, 1737-1750, p,. 8]. The next month, John Jr., described as "John Ealam, the younger," purchased 544 acres from Philip Jones and Richard Jones; the acreage was " bounded by Winterpock Creek, Town's line, John Ealam the elder, Harding, Williams and Watkins, Richard and James Robinson." [ibid., p. 9]. John Hill, Leonard Cheatham, and Alexander Elam were listed as witnesses to the deed. The identity of Alexander has not been ascertained, but it is possible that he was a son of John Jr. Because of the converyance in 1789 of Alexander Elam of Mecklenburg Co. of his relatively small estate to his ":brother" Edward Elam of Charlotte Co., I am stretching to connect the two and offer the possibility for consideration. I have found no other Alexander around ca. 1744, but there may have been one. I have no doubt that John Ealam the younger and John Ealam the elder were John Elam Sr. and John Elam Jr., son and grandson of old Martin Elam. Keep at it. We'll find something someday.....probably something to prove me wrong just after my book with all its theories is printed, but that will be alright. We must continue searching for truth. Regards. Earl

--WebTV-Mail-1925211922-120 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I just don't know anything anymore. I think the Johns have driven me crazy. I thought "the younger" designation interesting in light of the Leeds Johns having been called elder and younger when heretofore I had only seen Sr. & Jr. I can't figure who Alexander is. And, where is the sale of 544 acres? RUTHIEM --WebTV-Mail-1925211922-120 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.98) by postoffice-241.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:54:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <ELAM-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id BAA00070; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16971; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:01:12 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:01:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:05:57 -0500 From: "Earl H. Elam" <EHElam@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Re: Samuel Elam Sender: "Earl H. Elam" <EHElam@compuserve.com> Old-To: "INTERNET:ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com" <ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <199904031306_MC2-707C-D0B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by bl-11.rootsweb.com id KAA16890 Resent-Message-ID: <"sV8h0D.A.yIE.ndlB3"@bl-11.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/718 X-Loop: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Errors-To: ELAM-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Resent-Sender: ELAM-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Ruth, I have seen the information about Jones and John Ealam, the younger, in the area of Winterpock in 1744 before. This must have been John Elam Jr. who was a land owner in the area. What intrigues me is the Alexander who was a witness. The only Alexander I can find in that era is the Alexander who later in 1789 gave his estate to Edward Elam in Charlotte/Mecklenburg counties. If Alexander was a brother of Edward as the document states and if Edward was a brother of William and Joel of Charlotte Co., he might have been a son of John Jr. as might have the others. However, if he was the same Alexander who witnessed the transaction in 1744 he would have been born around 1723 or so, much earlier than generally supposed to be the dates of birth of any of John's alledged children. Have I confused everyone enought!!. Do you or anyone else have any ideas? Earl Elam --WebTV-Mail-1925211922-120--

Cassie, I would love a copy of the "7 pages pertaining to Samuel Elam. Thanks. RUTHIEM

I've only skimmed the recent posts re: Samuel Elam, so I hope I'm not being redundant, but as to his religious preference, the following is found in "Recollections of Olden Times" by Hazard, Thomas R., and Hazard, Willis P., p.88: "The only other tree left standing was the old historic button wood tree that now lies in ruins on the spot where it fell more than twenty years ago, on the Samuel Elam, or Vaucluse, estate. This place was named Vaucluse by the old English Quaker gentleman from his fancying that a bitter disappointment he experienced in a love affair with Miss Redwood, the then reigning beauty and belle of Newport, bore some resemblance to the torments Petrarch endured through his unfortunate passion for Laura." p.90 "Samuel Elam, an English gentleman of fortune, inherited the Vaucluse estate from his uncle, Jarvis Elam, and laid out and commenced the embellishment of the grounds shortly after the British left the Island in 1779. " p. 91 "His cellar was stored with the choicest wines and liquors, which, though a Quaker himself pledged to "temperance in all things," his politeness and good-breeding could not permit him to compel his guests to indulge in without the convivial assistance of their host. Mr. Elam's habit in this respect so grew upon him that Friends of his religious persuasion at last felt required by their book of discipline to deal with him as an offender, because of his lack of sufficient abstinence from the intoxicating fluid. He was, in accordance with the society's usage, notified that on a certain fourth day of the week a committee appointed by the monthly meeting of Newport would call at his house on business deemed of importance, in the way of counsel and reproof." This book devotes 7 pages to Samuel Elam. While I cannot reprint it in its entirety here, if anyone is interested, I will be happy to e-mail them a copy. Cassie

Dear Group: I was recently at the Library in VA and found the below marriage bonds. I would like to find out the relationship of the Elam family to the Sharp family. Any little clue would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Carol Hurley Mecklenburg County, Virginia >From 1765 to 1810 SHARP, M. TURNER & Martha JONES, 24 Jan. 1797, James Elam sec. Note from Richard Jones, father of Martha, ack. before Abraham Koen. SHARP, TURNER & Elizabeth JONES, dau. Richard, 11 May 1807 Note from Charles Jones, G'dn. of Elizabeth - wit: Samuel Williams & Aaron Haskins.

Ruth, I have seen the information about Jones and John Ealam, the younger, in the area of Winterpock in 1744 before. This must have been John Elam Jr. who was a land owner in the area. What intrigues me is the Alexander who was a witness. The only Alexander I can find in that era is the Alexander who later in 1789 gave his estate to Edward Elam in Charlotte/Mecklenburg counties. If Alexander was a brother of Edward as the document states and if Edward was a brother of William and Joel of Charlotte Co., he might have been a son of John Jr. as might have the others. However, if he was the same Alexander who witnessed the transaction in 1744 he would have been born around 1723 or so, much earlier than generally supposed to be the dates of birth of any of John's alledged children. Have I confused everyone enought!!. Do you or anyone else have any ideas? Earl Elam

Earl Elam and anyone interested in the Leeds Elams. Someone just sent me these "late" entries from Henrico, Henrico Co.VA Index to Grantors 1791-1876 Reel 51 1786 Emanuel Elam & els to Joseph Elam Book 2 p. 30l 1787 John Elam & als to Joseph Elam Book 2 p. 301 Henrico Co. VA Index to Grantees Reel 52 1786 Joseph Elam from John Elam als Book 2 p 301 Henrico Co Deed Book 2 1785-1788 p.301-304 John Elam the elder of borough of Leeds in County of York, Great Britain, Merchant, John Elam the younger of same on behalf of himself and John Elam the elder, Emanuel Elam of the borough of Leeds, Merchang, Robert Elam -- and William Whitlock etc. exors. of John Allen (sic) of Leeds - appoint Joseph Elam late of Borough of Leeds. power of attorney - receive goods of money due them in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina or Maryland or North America. 2 Feb. 1786 Presence Thomas Edward Upton, Hugh Harrison 5 June 1786. Henrico Co. VA Deeds, Wills 1750-1767 Reel 9 p. 497,498 Gervas Elam of Richomond VA in Henrico being shortly for leaving tis colony appoints James Elam of Richmond, attorneey, 25 June 1757 Presence Charles Mackie, George Donald 4 June 1757 p 957-960 John Elam of Leeds, York Co. appoints Joshua Storrs of Shoures(sic) upon James River in North America and George Ellis bound to me as an apprentice. 29 Dec. 1764 Presence Peter Dickenson Thomas Bulland NOW THIS MAYBE OF INTEREST TO US RE: JOHN ELAM Henrico Co. Deed Bk 1744-1748 C REEL 8 p222 Jan 1744 Philip Jones of Henrico and Richard Jones to John Ealam (sic)the younger, 544a on Winterpock Creek Presence John Hill, Leonard Cheatham, Alexander X Elam RUTHIEM

Annette, thank you for your prompt reply to my question about the source that identified Samuel Elam of Vaucluse (Portsmouth, RI) as a Jew. His branch of the family is of periferal interest to me as there is no known connection to my branch which, with certainty, is traceable to William Elam (c. 1734-1809) of Charlotte Co., VA, but I have never seen any of the Elams referred to as Jews before and that caught my eye. The name, of course, is traceable to the Old Testament where a son of Shem (son of Noah) was named Elam, thus giving rise to the Elamite empire that existed for more than a thousand years in what is now southwestern Iran. Walter Hinz in this book on the Elamites says they were people of unknown ethnicity--may not have been Semetic. Some persons, without sufficient evidence, have strained to show a connection between the ancient Elamites and the Elams of the British Isles, but to my knowledge there is no evidence of any early migrations of people from the region of the Elamites across Asia and Europe to Britain. The name most likely, as has been explained by numerous researchers, has local origins (perhaps multiple) in Kent, Yorkshire, and maybe other places. More research into the English ancestry of American Elams will undoubtedly prove enlightening. At this point, I think that Norma Neill's work has shown most convincingly the probability that Gilbert and Martin Elam in 17th century VA were born in the Thurnscoe area of Yorkshire. It is my suspicion also that Robert Elam (Christopher Branch's settler) came from there because Branch married a lady who lived at Darton, not far from Thurnscoe, and he would have had opportunity to recruit settlers from that area. My forthcoming book will contain much factual (proven) information, but also many theories that await confirmation or disproving. I expect it be available this summer. When it does appear, I hope to receive comments about the various theories. As a professional historian, I certainly am open to following the historical trail wherever it may lead, will welcome information that corrects me where I am wrong, and am amenable to looking at other points of view. At this point, I will need more information to make the judgement that the Elams of Yorkshire were Jewish in origin, but if they were, so be it. In their religious practices, the Elams in Yorkshire in the 1600s and later seem to have been Anglicans or separatists, and in America, after the Revolution, they were usually Baptists or Methodists. I have not attempted in detail to trace the Quaker Elams in VA; basically Norma Neill's work has been sufficient for my purposes. Nor have I attempted to trace the activities of the Elams in Rhode Island in detail--that would be an interesting story, as Gervase and Samuel were prominent, successful businessmen for many years in the Providence, Newport, and Portsmouth region. Perhaps someday I'll get around to pursuing the subject of "Elam Loyalists During the Revolution." One final item about Samuel of Vaucluse. His father, Robert, and uncles -- Samuel, Emmanuel, John, and Joseph-- in 1762 brought suit in Lunenburg Co., VA, against Elisha White (or Whiks) for nonpayment of debts. They were described in the suit as "merchants in Great Britain." Whether any of them were actually in Lunenburg Co. at the time I don't know. I found the case in Lunenburg Co. Court Order Book 8, 1762, p. 144, when I researched records there in 1997. I appreciate your contributions to Elam genealogy. You have provided much valuable information from time to time which is not readily accessible to those of us who do not live near our ancestral roots in VA. Thank you. Earl Elam

Sorry, meant to give the citations for all - but, the road is paved....... The Tillman Elam mention is found in "Index to Pension Applications for Indian Wars Service between 1817 and 1898," transcribed by Virgil White, The National Historical Publishing Co., Waynesboro, TN, 1997, pg. 245. Annette On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:05:51 EST RWa5352802@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 3/29/99 10:54:26 PM Central Standard Time, >awetzel@juno.com writes: >> 1. Elam, Tillman C., widow Mary A., WA-12233 & WC-8944 filed 9 May 1917 >> in OK, also see claim WO-768059, he served in 1868-9 in Co. D of 19th KS >> Cav., he died 26 July 1897 in Portland, KS. >The descendants of Reuben ELAM proudly claim this one. Thanks, Annette. >Regards, Bob Walker ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

William Thomas Elam b. 30 April 1828 m. 2 Nov 1848 Margret Radecker/ Rodecker b. 2 May 1829 d. 22 Mar 1870 11 children: Will b. 6 Jan 1850 John R. b. 29 Sept 1851 Nancy Ellen b. 11 Nov 1853 Martha died as infant Daniel Edward b. 7 Oct 1857 Francis died young Hanna Rosena died young Lydia Eliz. b. 21 May 1863 Lee b. 21 April 1865 Melvina b. 27 April 18?? can't read it **Anna May b. 15 May 1869 2 half sisters: no second wife's name Naoma b. 9 Dec. 1872 m. Charles Reed, lived in Brea, CA after 1900. Ida died as infant ** No place names, except for Anna May, born in Clinton, MO and m. Jefferson Enyart in Fayetteville, Ark abt 1885. They had 11 children, 9 born in Ark, moved to L. A. area abt 1901, 2 more born there. She died 13 May 1955 in La Puente, CA. ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html

William Thomas Elam b. 30 April 1828 m. 2 Nov 1848 Margret Radecker/ Rodecker b. 2 May 1829 d. 22 Mar 1870 11 children: Will b. 6 Jan 1850 John R. b. 29 Sept 1851 Nancy Ellen b. 11 Nov 1853 Martha died as infant Daniel Edward b. 7 Oct 1857 Francis died young Hanna Rosena died young Lydia Eliz. b. 21 May 1863 Lee b. 21 April 1865 Melvina b. 27 April 18?? can't read it **Anna May b. 15 May 1869 2 half sisters: no second wife's name Naoma b. 9 Dec. 1872 m. Charles Reed, lived in Brea, CA after 1900. Ida died as infant ** No place names, except for Anna May, born in Clinton, MO and m. Jefferson Enyart in Fayetteville, Ark abt 1885. 11 children, 9 born in Ark, moved to L. A. area abt 1901, 2 more born there. She died 13 May 1955 in La Puente, CA. ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html

On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:48:04 -0500 "Earl H. Elam" <EHElam@compuserve.com> writes: >I note with interest your identifiction of Samuel Elam as a Jew. What is >your source of information? The reference to Samuel Elam is found in "Ship's Passenger Lists, National and New England 1600-1825," Edited & Indexed by Carl Boyer, 3rd Publication by the Compiler, Newhall, CA, 1977, pages 197-200, in which the compiled has printed excerpts from, and makes editorial notes regarding, a work titled "The History of Denization and Naturalization in the Colony of Rhode Island, 1636-1790," by Sidney S. Rider, no publication place, [1905?]. The author of this piece presents a long and complicated discussion of the Charter of the Colony of Rhode Island, and a legal discourse aimed toward proving that it was unnecessary for anyone holding British citizenship to need to be naturalized and that certain laws passed by the Assembly of Rhode Island violated Roger Williams' original Charter for that Colony. > Samuel Elam (1753-1815) of Rhode Island, was a son of John Elam Sr. (1721-1789) and >Mary Frankland Elam (c. 1724-1799) of Leeds in Yorkshire, England. <snip> >Rhode Island. According to Neill, Samuel went to Newport when his uncle, >Gervais (or Gervase) Elam died in 1777. Gervase, who had been engaged in >business in VA also became a successful merchant in Rhode Island. Gervase >was a Loyalist and his property was seized by the state when he died. The petition of Samuel Elam, stating that he came from Leeds, England, and that he "had dwelt in Rhode Island since the peace," can apparently be found in "Acts and Resolves of the Rhode Island Assembly, March, 1789, page 11." If the reference to the petition is correctly recorded, (and I have no access to Rhode Island records to determine whether it is or not), then it would seem that Samuel Elam is stating that he was not living in America until after the Revolutionary War. >listed by Norma Neill in her book on The Elam Family: Quaker Merchants of >England and America, pp. 65-66. The family were merchants, involved in >clothing and other businesses in Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, and <snip> >Neill identifies the family as Quakers. Mrs. Neill has written a wonderfully thorough and well-researched book - full of information about Quaker Elams in England, and I understand from your posts that she has helped you to locate heretofore unobtainable Elam birth records. There is no doubt that some Elams were Quakers, and that some of those who were were in Virginia at some point prior to the Revolutionary War. As I'm sure you know, the compilation which contains the most numerous mention of these Virginia Quaker Elam connections is "Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy," by William Wade Hinshaw, Vol. VI, pgs. 171-172, reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore. These early Quaker records certainly allow for various interpretations. The mention of Elams in the Blackwater Monthly Meeting (1766) records a letter received from the attorney for Samuel and Emanuel Elam, complaining about a debt owed to the Elam firm by a customer, who happened to be a member of that meeting. The records of the Henrico Monthly Meeting are slightly more informative, but clearly indicate that the Monthly Meeting had, in 1753, contracted separately with 'Gervis' and with Robert Elam to "roof the Monthly Meeting [house] at Bridgehouse in Yorkshire, England." Only one surviving pre-Revolutionary War Quaker record seems to indicate the physical presence of Elams in the Colony of Virginia. From the records of the Henrico Monthly Meeting, (1753) "Robert requests through his brother a certificate to the monthly meeting at Brighouse in Yorkshire (departed this colony for England)" and, in 1755, "Joseph requests certificate Brighouse, Yorkshire, England, the Monthly Meeting decided that since he brought no certificate when he came here, nor never applied to be taken under care of this Monthly Meeting, he was not entitled to a certificate, matter dropped." Next, (1757) "Joseph roof Shewbroad for Brighouse Monthly Meeting in Yorkshire," and (1762) "Joseph given certificate England; said certificate returned 1763, he abandoned his plans." Virginia Quaker records do not mention any females having the surname Elam, not do they record any Elam marriages. These absences, coupled with other extant pre-Revolutionary Virginia records, such as the "List of 10,000 Names," the list of charter members of the Meherrin Baptist Church, and records of numerous Elam marriages performed by Anglican, Methodist and Baptist clergy, seem at this point to indicate that a strong Quaker connection MAY not have applied to the Elams in pre- and in post-Revolutionary Virginia. Regarding "Gervais" Elam: "Virginia in 1760: A Reconstructed Census," by T. L. C. Genealogy, Miami, FL, 1996, page 108, lists the name "Gervas Elam," once in Cumberland County and once in Henrico County. I don't know what records were used in reconstructing this census, and cannot say anything about its accuracy. I do know that the name of at least one Virginia Elam property owner, Edward of Lunenburg county, who owned, sold and bought property in Lunenburg from 1752 onward, is missing from the above named 'census,' so it does not seem that a complete survey of Virginia records was used. At any rate, I have not been able to locate records for "Gervas Elam" in Cumberland or Henrico Counties. Perhaps another Elam researcher will share those they may have found. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Many Jewish people don't necessarily practice the Jewish faith. Samuel may well have been born a Jew and still been a Quaker. Cathy Eleam Gibson MMELAM@aol.com wrote: > Elam, of course, if an old biblical name. Elam was the son of Shem and > grandson of Noah. The nation of Elam, as you will see if you reference Old > Testament maps found in the backs of many Bible's, existed roughly where the > nation of Iraq is today. I have a single sheet which references everytime the > nation of Elam or its inhabitants, the Elamites, are mentioned. The Elamites > are even mentioned in the New Testament as one of the groups of people at > Pentecost who miraculously heard the disciples teaching in their own > languages. The Elamites at Petecost living in Jurusalem were apparently Jews, > but I suspect that most Elamites and there descendants were not. > > Whether Samuel Elam was a Jew, I do not know, but I would be surprised. The > best evidence I've seen suggests he would more likely be a Quaker. I would > enjoy seeing any evidence to the contrary. But the point of all this is that > the name Elam goes back much further than England. > > Mark Elam

Thanks, Annette, for the interesting facts you post to this list. I had always thought the name Elam was English in derivation and assumed it was Anglo-Saxon. But I noticed that Samuel Elam was referred to as "a Jew" who came from England and wondered if the ethnicity of Elams who came to America in the 1600s was Jewish. Since I have light blue eyes, extremely light skin, and (until it began to gray!) blondish red hair, it never occurred to me that I might have a Jewish ancestor. If so, I would welcome the fact because I think people with a Jewish heritage are among the most intellectual!

Elam, of course, if an old biblical name. Elam was the son of Shem and grandson of Noah. The nation of Elam, as you will see if you reference Old Testament maps found in the backs of many Bible's, existed roughly where the nation of Iraq is today. I have a single sheet which references everytime the nation of Elam or its inhabitants, the Elamites, are mentioned. The Elamites are even mentioned in the New Testament as one of the groups of people at Pentecost who miraculously heard the disciples teaching in their own languages. The Elamites at Petecost living in Jurusalem were apparently Jews, but I suspect that most Elamites and there descendants were not. Whether Samuel Elam was a Jew, I do not know, but I would be surprised. The best evidence I've seen suggests he would more likely be a Quaker. I would enjoy seeing any evidence to the contrary. But the point of all this is that the name Elam goes back much further than England. Mark Elam