I just hit pay dirt! -- for those of us descended from Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook. I've been searching for Emily for 20 years & today I found her. Go to: http://www.zoomnet.net/~mramey/cousins.html. This is a "Country Cousins" site; cursor down to "Holbrook Family History". Add to what you find there: died 1929 Ashland, KY (this from my Family Bible). Lou

Sharon, The book you mentioned is not a reliable source for anything of historical facts in Morgan co. Mr.Johnson was my Civics teacher in high school. The information in this book are reports we made while in his class. The one on Wheelrim is especially false,about Wheelrim got its name. The part of the Crases could be possibly true. In fact I wrote the part on the Christian Church and it is true. I knew the boys who did Wheelrim and it is a joke. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Warner <index@dmci.net> To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, August 12, 1999 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [ELAM-ROOTS] Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook >Lou, > >Here is a little history of Wheelrim from a book called "Early Morgan >County" by Arthur C. Johnson that should help. Wheelrim is the area that >the Elams settled in. > >p. 76-77 > >WHEELRIM > >Wheelrim is a small creek on the south side of Morgan County. The name >appeared many, many years ago, when a group of people came to the mouth of >Wheelrim and camped there. While they were there, they cut a limb off a >tree and hung a spinning wheel in a bush. When people came there to settle, >they saw the spinning wheel and called the creek Wheelrim. >There were three water mills located on Wheelrim. The first was owned by >AIf Crase about 1883. >The second one was run by Ben Elam in 1885. It was first owned by his >father. One cold morning in December, Ben was walking across a log that >helped dam up the pond. There was ice on the log and the pond was frozen >over. Ben slipped and fell in the pond and broke his shoulder on the ice. >The third water mill was built by George Crase in the year of 1903. My >father, Forest Bailey, said he took corn to the mill when he was a boy to >have it ground. Some of the old mill still stands. >There were two schoolhouses on the creek. The first one was built out of >logs and was covered with boards for a roof. It was built in the year of >1880. The second one was built out of planks in the year of 1900. My >father, Forest Bailey, went to school there. >A church was built about 1915. My grandfather, Frank Press Bailey, helped >to buy material and also helped build the houses. It was pastored by Uncle >Henry Elam and Andy Crase until they died. It is a United Baptist church. >The church house is still standing. >There was one grocery store on Wheelrim. It was owned by H. Crase. It was >built in 1918. He did not stay in business very long, because two men >robbed the store and carried off most of his groceries in two coffee sacks. >The first post office was run by Kellie Risener. It was called Burk. He ran >it until he died, and then Sarah Risener ran it for a short period. Harm >Davis took it over, and he ran it until the government took it from him. >Some of the first settlers were Josh, John, Ben and Dan Elam, and Henry >Crase. George Crase, who never married, stayed with Henry until he died at >the age of 94. >This research report was given by Leondias Bailey. > > >GREEAR > >Greear is on Little Caney. It was first settled by John Elam and Johnny >CIaypool. >Greear got its name from the Greear post office, and the post office got >its name from an old man, Bill Greear, who settled there. The Greear post >office was established in 1933... > >(The section on Greear was given by Greldeen Jones and Sarah Peyton. They >interviewed Kerby Williams in October 1955.) > >-------------- >Ben's brother John was my gr gr grandfather. Looking forward to seeing the >rest of your information. > >Sharon > >>Hi cousins! I can't begin to tell you how excited I am to find all of you! >> >>As a child, I was always told by the elderly relatives that I inherited >>"that Elam pride" -- I had no idea what that meant, but they always said it >>as if it were a good thing! >> >>Before I found this website my Elam history only went back as far as >>Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook (plus in 1983 I found an 1860 census >>record showing an elderly Gilbert living with Benjamin & Emily, so I deduced >>this was his father). I have a great deal of information on the descendants >>of Benjamin & Emily, including children, spouses, births, deaths, stories, >>etc., which I'll share in a future message. >> >>Adding your research to mine, here's my line, starting with me: >> 1. Louanna Taulbee Walker >> 2. Ella Jane Morris & Johnie Milton Taulbee) >> 3. Julian Preston Morris & Addie Elam >> 4. Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook >> 5. Gilbert Elam & Catherine Cooley >> 6. William "Billie" Cannon Elam & Susannah Rugins >> 7. Gilbert Elam & Susanna Cannon >> 8. Robert Elam & Elizabeth Boling >> 9. Gilbert Elam & Mary Hatcher >>10. Gilbert Elam & Ann Elam >>11. Thomas Elam & Mary Shirecliffe >>11. Robert Elam (through Ann) >> >>CORRECTION: on Cassie's "James Elam Descendants", there's a 2nd marriage >>listed for Benjamin Elam (to Rebecca Burton). This must be someone else's >>Benjamin (there's an LDS report showing a Benjamin C. Elam b. 1850 m. >>Rebecca Burton in 1871). MY Benjamin was born in 1842 -- I don't have an >>exact date of death. The story handed down is that Ben was still fairly >>young when died -- he fell to his death when he climbed to the top of a >>watermill to fix a frozen waterwheel. Ben & Emily's youngest son Grant was >>born in 1892, so the earliest Ben could have died was after Emily became >>pregnant with Grant in 1891-1892, which would make Ben 50. >> >>Does anyone have any information on the ancestors of Emily Jane Holbrook >>Elam --I've reached a brick wall. There's a small penciled note in the >>Family Bible close to her name that (I think) reads: "mar'd Murphy". >>Perhaps a 2nd marriage after Ben's death? Also, "Wheelrim" is written after >>her maiden name -- maybe this is where the Holbrooks lived. >> >>Can't wait to hear from all of you. I'll organize my notes & files & send >>you the rest of what I have. >> >>Lou Walker > > >

I was poking around in our local library several days ago and came across a book entitled "Ardery's Kentucky Records" originally published in 1926 and reissued by the Genealogical Publishing Company: Daviess Co., KY Marriages: John McFarland m. 12-23 1838 Indiana B. Elam Shelby Co., KY Marriages/Wills Richard Elam - Inventory, Nov 1800 - Ex. Elizabeth Elam, Sec. Francis Hall, Ap. John Shannon, Moses Hall, Singleton Wilson, Thomas King. Richard Elam m. 12-24-1796 Elizabeth Sorrels, dau. of Nelly Sorrels, Mrs. Elizabeth Elam married 1-5-1817 James H. Toncray. Hope this may help some Elam Folk. Ron Gollberg, Asheville, NC.

Lou, Here is a little history of Wheelrim from a book called "Early Morgan County" by Arthur C. Johnson that should help. Wheelrim is the area that the Elams settled in. p. 76-77 WHEELRIM Wheelrim is a small creek on the south side of Morgan County. The name appeared many, many years ago, when a group of people came to the mouth of Wheelrim and camped there. While they were there, they cut a limb off a tree and hung a spinning wheel in a bush. When people came there to settle, they saw the spinning wheel and called the creek Wheelrim. There were three water mills located on Wheelrim. The first was owned by AIf Crase about 1883. The second one was run by Ben Elam in 1885. It was first owned by his father. One cold morning in December, Ben was walking across a log that helped dam up the pond. There was ice on the log and the pond was frozen over. Ben slipped and fell in the pond and broke his shoulder on the ice. The third water mill was built by George Crase in the year of 1903. My father, Forest Bailey, said he took corn to the mill when he was a boy to have it ground. Some of the old mill still stands. There were two schoolhouses on the creek. The first one was built out of logs and was covered with boards for a roof. It was built in the year of 1880. The second one was built out of planks in the year of 1900. My father, Forest Bailey, went to school there. A church was built about 1915. My grandfather, Frank Press Bailey, helped to buy material and also helped build the houses. It was pastored by Uncle Henry Elam and Andy Crase until they died. It is a United Baptist church. The church house is still standing. There was one grocery store on Wheelrim. It was owned by H. Crase. It was built in 1918. He did not stay in business very long, because two men robbed the store and carried off most of his groceries in two coffee sacks. The first post office was run by Kellie Risener. It was called Burk. He ran it until he died, and then Sarah Risener ran it for a short period. Harm Davis took it over, and he ran it until the government took it from him. Some of the first settlers were Josh, John, Ben and Dan Elam, and Henry Crase. George Crase, who never married, stayed with Henry until he died at the age of 94. This research report was given by Leondias Bailey. GREEAR Greear is on Little Caney. It was first settled by John Elam and Johnny CIaypool. Greear got its name from the Greear post office, and the post office got its name from an old man, Bill Greear, who settled there. The Greear post office was established in 1933... (The section on Greear was given by Greldeen Jones and Sarah Peyton. They interviewed Kerby Williams in October 1955.) -------------- Ben's brother John was my gr gr grandfather. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your information. Sharon >Hi cousins! I can't begin to tell you how excited I am to find all of you! > >As a child, I was always told by the elderly relatives that I inherited >"that Elam pride" -- I had no idea what that meant, but they always said it >as if it were a good thing! > >Before I found this website my Elam history only went back as far as >Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook (plus in 1983 I found an 1860 census >record showing an elderly Gilbert living with Benjamin & Emily, so I deduced >this was his father). I have a great deal of information on the descendants >of Benjamin & Emily, including children, spouses, births, deaths, stories, >etc., which I'll share in a future message. > >Adding your research to mine, here's my line, starting with me: > 1. Louanna Taulbee Walker > 2. Ella Jane Morris & Johnie Milton Taulbee) > 3. Julian Preston Morris & Addie Elam > 4. Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook > 5. Gilbert Elam & Catherine Cooley > 6. William "Billie" Cannon Elam & Susannah Rugins > 7. Gilbert Elam & Susanna Cannon > 8. Robert Elam & Elizabeth Boling > 9. Gilbert Elam & Mary Hatcher >10. Gilbert Elam & Ann Elam >11. Thomas Elam & Mary Shirecliffe >11. Robert Elam (through Ann) > >CORRECTION: on Cassie's "James Elam Descendants", there's a 2nd marriage >listed for Benjamin Elam (to Rebecca Burton). This must be someone else's >Benjamin (there's an LDS report showing a Benjamin C. Elam b. 1850 m. >Rebecca Burton in 1871). MY Benjamin was born in 1842 -- I don't have an >exact date of death. The story handed down is that Ben was still fairly >young when died -- he fell to his death when he climbed to the top of a >watermill to fix a frozen waterwheel. Ben & Emily's youngest son Grant was >born in 1892, so the earliest Ben could have died was after Emily became >pregnant with Grant in 1891-1892, which would make Ben 50. > >Does anyone have any information on the ancestors of Emily Jane Holbrook >Elam --I've reached a brick wall. There's a small penciled note in the >Family Bible close to her name that (I think) reads: "mar'd Murphy". >Perhaps a 2nd marriage after Ben's death? Also, "Wheelrim" is written after >her maiden name -- maybe this is where the Holbrooks lived. > >Can't wait to hear from all of you. I'll organize my notes & files & send >you the rest of what I have. > >Lou Walker

In a message dated 08/11/1999 10:47:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << James Martha A. Burroughs 4/6/1873 DeSoto >> Thanks Herman I found this listing to be the bother of my gggrandfather. You also had in the list the record of my grandfathers marriage to Mary Spinks. I already had obtained this from Lowdes: James W. S. Mary L. Spinks 7/1/1911 Lowndes Thanks for posting this list. If anyone shares this line please contact me. LaDonna Elam McKelvey

Looking for information on parents and siblings of Kirby Jack ELAM b.6/20/1910 m. Sara A. b.12/20/1919. Both of these people are buried in Melwood Cemetery in Stone Mountain, DeKalb County,GA. Would especially like to know maiden name of Sara A. -- ============================================================ Researching BELL, BRIGHT, COLLIER, DANIEL, ECKLES, EDWARDS, ENGLISH, FOSTER, GIBBONS, HAMMOND, HARDISON, HAWTHORNE, HOOKS, LANE, LEACH, LEWIS, McALLISTER, McCLUNG, McDAVID, PAXSON, RICHMOND, RUTLEDGE, SHIVERS, SPURLOCK, STEWART, TURNER, WESLEY, WHEELER, WILLIAMS, WYNNE and YORK. ============================================================

Herman, There are several different Elam lines that live and lived in Mississippi. The Lauderdale Co., MS, Elams, that had their reunion the first weekend in June, were but one of many. To give the Elam list an idea of what I mean, I am sending out my Elam extract from the Soundex for Mississippi Marriages before 1926. I haven't sent this out in a while, so I thought I might use this opportunity to resend this to the mailing list. MISSISSIPPI SOUNDEX TO MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1926 ELAMS From Film 15 E162 to F246, Film 18A E163-F200 and other Sources courtesy of the Miss. State Archives Note: This listing came from index cards sent in from the counties to the state. Some counties probably did not send any at all and some probably did not send all. The WPA in the 1930's and 40's put the cards in Soundex order by the Groom's name (Sorry no Brides) just like the Census index cards and them put them to microfilm. It may have seemed like makework at the time, but is now a priceless tool for the Mississippi genealogist. It comes in two parts. The "White" marriages and the "Primarily Black" marriages. The "White Marriages are about 99.9% white, but the "Primarily Black" marriages are about 50-60 % white. It was not always possible to determine which was which, so I didn't try. I just put them all down. Remember also that the spellings come from the interpretation of the County Clerk's office of the entry in the marriage book. Often the cards were themselves faded and/or the clerks had awful handwriting. If I was not 90% sure, I wrote down the Book and page number, if they were legible. Some would say, why not all of them? The answer is, "It was too much work." The books were generally organised by a time period such as 1876-1884, so the marriage date will get you zeroed in on the correct book most of the time. The original books mostly still in the County Clerks' Offices in their respective counties. Unfortunately, some of the cards had no county, or it was illegible. These are listed as "NCL", No County Listed or "CUR", County UnReadable. Some marriages did not get sent to the state at all and I found them elsewhere in the archives and added them to the list. These would be the Who married Whom books, the Hunting for Bears marriage books, etc... . The dates given often were the license date. Sometimes the license was issued, but the marriage never took place, the paper for the officiating officer was never returned, or the marriage book was simply not updated when it did come in. I just used the date on the index card. Use this as an index for further reference rather than as a "SOURCE". Good Hunting. The grooms' last name is Elam unless otherwise noted. Thomas E. Van Ness tevanness@juno.com Mrg or Groom Bride Lic. date Source Bk Pg Allen Elizabeth Wyatt 7/26/1852 Desoto Allen Ella Crum 11/14/1922 Alcorn Allen Love Crum 3/23/1911 Alcorn Allen Mattie Russell 3/17/1914 Alcorn B. J. Pagie Hester 2/26/1899 Holmes Arthur Effie Coleman 7/26/1905 Marshall Charles Martha Brown 7/25/1890 Bolivar E. C. Julia Harris 7/15/1909 Lee Elmo F. May Henry Dillworth 12/12/1916 Alcorn Fate(Boy) Bettie Mills 8/26/1918 Alcorn F. H. Margaret Willis 5/19/1901 Alcorn Feelin Louisa Streater 3/21/1879 Carroll Frank Minnie Prince 6/22/1909 Prentiss G. M. Melinda Coleman 12/13/1899 Alcorn George R. Elem R. E. Martindale 5/6/1860 Lafayette Henry Earnest Mattie Ruth Mosely 10/26/1919 Clarke J. S. Lelia McCormick 2/5/1916 Carroll J. D. Laura Hearn 11/29/1919 Newton MISSISSIPPI SOUNDEX TO MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1926 ELAMS From Film 15 E162 to F246, Film 18A E163-F200 courtesy of the Miss. State Archives Mrg or Groom Bride Lic. date Source Bk Pg J. E. Carol Prine 11/13/1923 Alcorn J. H. Eldora Acres 6/24/1881 DeSoto J. H. Martha Brown 12/20/1891 Lauderdale J. H. Tillie Tindell 1/18/1899 Carroll J. P. Mattie Elam 9/22/1921 Prentiss James Martha A. Burroughs 4/6/1873 DeSoto James W. S. Mary L. Spinks 7/1/1911 Lowndes James W. Virginia Hutchins 8/24/1854 Adams Jesse Holie Crum 5/17/1919 Alcorn John Ida Mills 9/16/1913 Alcorn John Elem Mary E. Stewart 6/22/1905 Harrison John Ealem Dul Seams 11/29/1891 Jackson K. W. Marian Manning 7/13/1921 Hinds L. L. M. A. Berryman 2/5/1887 Alcorn Lafayette Annie L. Hilburn 10/3/1906 Alcorn P. Catharine Neely 7/26/1831 Jefferson Robert Carine Rawlings 6/29/1918 Adams S. L., Jr. Anna Cochran 6/7/1902 Scott T. H. Elem Kate Elem 1/7/1906 Lincoln Victor Mable Woodham 10/5/1922 Newton Thomas A. Maria L. Wood 4/28/1835 Jefferson W. B. Ella Elam 12/18/1915 Lauderdale W. B. Ella Easterling 7/26/1903 Clarke W. C. Sarah E. Henard 2/21/1866 Desoto W. L. Bettie Burrage 11/28/1907 Lauderdale W. S. Valie Cobb 12/11/1866 Desoto W. M. Georgia R. McMullian 7/16/1922 Warren William M. Edna Merrill 8/8/1917 Jasper William Caroline Pearce 7/1/1851 DeSoto William R. Elizabeth Cunningham 1/7/1846 DeSoto MISSISSIPPI SOUNDEX TO MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1926 ELAMS From Film 15 E162 to F246, Film 18A E163-F200 courtesy of the Miss. State Archives >From the Primarily Black Film 18A E163-F200, see note at the beginning Mrg or Groom Bride Lic. date Source Bk Pg Aaron Alsie McComb 12/20/1902 Sunflower Ad Henrietta Willson 1/13/1887 Yazoo Anderson Elem Elmira Cole 12/23/1900 Panola Anderson Elem Viola Harris 3/31/1919 Panola Aron Mary Benjamin 1/31/1892 Leflore Arthur Bettie Adams 12/18/1907 Yazoo Arthur Elem O. D. Mans 2/10/1915 Sunflower Buck Ida Carroll 2/10/1895 Tate Buck Liddy Colbert 2/10/1887 Tate Buck Mollie Halett 12/26/1873 Tate Buck Sarah Holland 12/20/1870 DeSoto Butler Jennie Jones 3/18/1898 Holmes C. B. A. Patterson 12/8/1889 Tate C. M. Willie J. Johnson 8/12/1880 Tate Carl Richard Allie Kirkwood 1/12/1911 Holmes Carl Dora Riley O'Neal 6/2/1923 Holmes Charles Emily Harris 1/21/1884 Hinds Charley Josephine Walker 6/3/1916 Tate Charley Mary Anderson 4/15/1899 Yazoo Charley Virginia Curtis 12/2/1923 Sunflower Charlie Annie McAfee 7/11/1915 Sunflower Charlie Daisy McGee 12/28/1920 Tate E. W. Elom Carrie Hathcock 12/23/1908 Monroe E. W. S. E. Hathcock 1/10/1895 Monroe Eli Manerva Hunter 11/9/1916 Adams G. R. Rosa Lockland 10/15/1876 Tate H. L. Dela Hurst 10/10/1917 Neshoba Henry Letis Vaughn 3/9/1921 Monroe Henry Lydia Burnell 2/28/1898 Yazoo Henry, Jr. Melissa Hooker 1/16/1914 Holmes MISSISSIPPI SOUNDEX TO MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1926 ELAMS From Film 15 E162 to F246, Film 18A E163-F200 courtesy of the Miss. State Archives >From the Primarily Black Film 18A E163-F200, see note at the beginning Mrg or Groom Bride Lic. date Source Bk Pg Henry Mittie Pembleton 11/16/1898 Holmes Hezekiah Alice Ford 9/13/1919 Yazoo Howard Ressie Richard 1/25/1874 Tate Isadore Ola Thurmond 3/6/1912 Holmes J. D. Elom Maudie Nelson 5/5/1912 Smith J. O. Elam Sallie Thompson 8/18/1880 Tate James E. Harriet Elkinson? 3/3/1880? Yazoo A 518 James C. Mandel L. Owens 10/3/1920 Monroe Jasper Mary Jane Willis 5/5/1861 Tippah Joe Elum Kissie Brooks 11/3/1917 Sunflower Jno Carrie Brown 12/20/1904 Holmes John Mary Heard 1/1/1885 Yazoo John Theodora Elam 2/5/1913 Holmes John Nora Arener 12/24/1896 Holmes John Sallie Garrett 6/2/1884 Tate Johnnie Jesse Wade 12/21/1921 Holmes Lewis Sarah Harris 1/17/1896 Panola Mack Susan Rush 5/9/1878 Tate Osborne Susie Minion 1/7/1909 Yazoo Phill Ida Simmons 10/1/1910 Yazoo R. A. Etna Turner 1/21/1892 Tippah Robert Alice Williams 12/20/1876 Tate Robert Almeter Archer 12/25/1912 Holmes Robert Ella Young 1/28/1919 Holmes Robert Ealem Leola Goff 12/28/1916 Washington Robert Maggie Hoskins 12/14/1919 Holmes S. N. Anna Ledbetter 12/9/1879 Yazoo Sam Susie Williams 2/28/1925 Sunflower Spencer Elum Tennesee Anderson 12/7/1883 Panola Thomas Agnes Haskins 1/3/1872 Issaquena MISSISSIPPI SOUNDEX TO MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1926 ELAMS From Film 15 E162 to F246, Film 18A E163-F200 courtesy of the Miss. State Archives >From the Primarily Black Film 18A E163-F200, see note at the beginning Mrg or Groom Bride Lic. date Source Bk Pg W. A. Lizzie Whisanton? 6/25/1917 Yazoo E 371 W. F. Emma Moody 7/13/1881 Leflore William E. Claudine Dunn 4/18/1910 Washington William N. Margaret J. Medford 12/2/1852 Tippah Winfred Flossie Jefferson 11/30/1924 Holmes Thank you, Thomas E. 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Just wanted to let you know I'm skipping town for a few days and going to a family reunion in MS. I probably won't be checking in until I return next week, so don't think I'm ignoring you if I don't get back to you before then. Happy hunting! Cassie

We just had the Family reunion...in Quitman.... Herman Cassie Elam wrote: > Just wanted to let you know I'm skipping town for a few days and going > to a family reunion in MS. I probably won't be checking in until I > return next week, so don't think I'm ignoring you if I don't get back to > you before then. Happy hunting! > > Cassie

I am trying to find relatives of Matilda C. Elam b. Feb 17 1822 in VA but was married Sep 17 1846 in Lawrence Co KY to Eli Diles. They then moved to Greenup Co. KY by the 1850 census. Later, most of the family moved to Saline Co. ARK where Matilda died in 1889. Shirley Moore smoore03@mail.orion.org

April 17, 1991, The Sacramento Bee, B5 Mr. Elam, 76, died of cancer Tuesday morning in his Sacramento home. The New York state native moved to Sacramento with his parents 70 years ago and was a graduate of Courtland High School. He later joined Sacramento Wheel Service and worked 45 years as a mechanic before retiring in the early 1980s. Mr. Elam is survived by his wife of 53 years, Ellen; children, Glenn Ellen "Kay" Armstrong, Jo Anne Webb, Barbara Mary Elam and Donald Norman Elam, all of Sacramento, and Dorothy Lynn Fineren of Healdsburg; a sister, Agnes Ensley, and a brother, Jabez Elam, both of Sacramento; six grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren. In lieu of flowers, the family requests that any remembrances be made to Hospice Care of Sacramento Inc., 2007 O St., Suite 100, Sacramento, 95814. Surely there is more than one Mr. Elam in Sacramento? Anyone know his first name? Cassie

Hi everyone -- I got my blessing from Rootsweb today and have been working furiously to get everything set up. It's not quite ready yet, but should be within the next couple of days. The address is http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~celam/ I am going to keep the "front" pages on GeoCities and Tripod and will eventually change all of their links to point to the various documents on the Rootsweb server. That way anyone with either of the old addresses will still be able to get to it. Diane: "snail-mail" just means a person's physical mailing address (or P.O. Box) as opposed to their e-mali address. Speaking of which, several of you had asked for my snail-mail address. It is: Cassie A. Elam 6609 Westview Dr. Houston, TX 77055 I'm already on every junk mail list in the universe, so I'm not worried about putting it on the list -- there can't be any company out there that doesn't already have it. Thanks for all of your patience and support! Cassie

Usually second Sunday in Oct. Marilynn ---------- > From: awetzel@juno.com > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Re:Elam Reunion > Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 12:43 AM > > When is it, again? Annette > > On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:20:26 -0400 "Marilynn Masten" <marilynn@shelby.net> > writes: You ARe coming to the reunion, aren't you?

When is it, again? Annette On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:20:26 -0400 "Marilynn Masten" <marilynn@shelby.net> writes: You ARe coming to the reunion, aren't you?

I'm glad you sent that because I saw it in the paper and forgot to cut it out for the Elam notebook. You ARe coming to the reunion, aren't you? Marilynn ---------- > From: awetzel@juno.com > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Elam Sues Town > Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:14 PM > > Richmond Times Dispatch, Monday, August 2, 1999, Section B, page 6 > > "Residents can now dance the night away" from the Associated Press > > Pound (VA) - Terry Boggs knows of no finer way to end the work week than > to put on a pair of cowboy boots and dance the night away to his favorite > country tunes....Dancing isn't something Boggs and other boot-scooters > take for granted in Pound, a town of about 1,000 people in the > southwestern Virginia mountains. > > Pound's churches and its elected leaders see public dancing as something > to be tightly restricted, lest it lead to cheatin' hearts and ruined > marriages. And dancing was effectively shut down until June 29 when a > federal judge struck down Pound's 18-year old dance ordinance as > unconstitutional. > > Since the ruling, couples in cowboy hats and boots have turned out in > droves to kick up their heels at the Golden Pine in defiance of Pound's > official aversion to dancing. > > It was William Elam, owner of the Golden Pine, who took Town Council to > court over its dancing strictures. He grew weary of explaining to > out-of-town patrons why they couldn't dance at his night spot. "They > would get mad and a lot of them would flat out refuse to sit down," Elam > said. > > For at least 18 years, Pound banned dancing in any place open to the > public that did not first obtain a dance hall permit from the council. > The ordinance was a way to crack down on the boozing associated with > public dances. > > No one has ever been ticketed for dancing. Neither has anyone ever > received a permit and, until Elam and the Golden Pine came along, nobody > had sought one, said town attorney Gary Gilliam. > > Elam bought the Golden Pine in 1996. Pound's proximity to a dry Kentucky > county makes it a good place for taverns and night spots. The nearest > dance club is some 20 miles away in Norton. > > Elam applied for a dance permit about a year ago, but withdrew the > application out of fear that it would be rejected. More than 200 people > showed up at the council meeting to oppose granting Elam a permit. Elam > then hired a lawyer and got the law struck down. > > "We got the court ruling on Wednesday and we were dancing on Friday," > said Elam. > > U. S. District Judge Glen Williams wrote in his ruling that the case > amounted to an unconstitutional restriction of free expression. The > council is busy drafting its ordinance more narrowly to pass > constitutional muster. Town building inspectors also say the Golden Pine > does not meet the state's fire code for dance halls and could prosecute > him and close him down because of it. > > Competing bars haven't opened their dance floors yet, but applaud Elam's > court victory.

Our Edward Elam died in Il. How do we get in touch with this local association ?. Marilynn ---------- > From: Paul & Pam Jarosy <PFJJ@prodigy.net> > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Family Association > Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 9:36 AM > > Cassie, > > If anyone is local to Vandalia, Illinois, there is a small cream-colored > notebook with descendancy information. It says there is a family > association that meets regularly. There are addresses. In addition, > someone has encouraged local people to do familytrees. Elams are scattered > among several black binders, again with addresses. > > Pamela

Cassie, If anyone is local to Vandalia, Illinois, there is a small cream-colored notebook with descendancy information. It says there is a family association that meets regularly. There are addresses. In addition, someone has encouraged local people to do familytrees. Elams are scattered among several black binders, again with addresses. Pamela

Richmond Times Dispatch, Monday, August 2, 1999, Section B, page 6 "Residents can now dance the night away" from the Associated Press Pound (VA) - Terry Boggs knows of no finer way to end the work week than to put on a pair of cowboy boots and dance the night away to his favorite country tunes....Dancing isn't something Boggs and other boot-scooters take for granted in Pound, a town of about 1,000 people in the southwestern Virginia mountains. Pound's churches and its elected leaders see public dancing as something to be tightly restricted, lest it lead to cheatin' hearts and ruined marriages. And dancing was effectively shut down until June 29 when a federal judge struck down Pound's 18-year old dance ordinance as unconstitutional. Since the ruling, couples in cowboy hats and boots have turned out in droves to kick up their heels at the Golden Pine in defiance of Pound's official aversion to dancing. It was William Elam, owner of the Golden Pine, who took Town Council to court over its dancing strictures. He grew weary of explaining to out-of-town patrons why they couldn't dance at his night spot. "They would get mad and a lot of them would flat out refuse to sit down," Elam said. For at least 18 years, Pound banned dancing in any place open to the public that did not first obtain a dance hall permit from the council. The ordinance was a way to crack down on the boozing associated with public dances. No one has ever been ticketed for dancing. Neither has anyone ever received a permit and, until Elam and the Golden Pine came along, nobody had sought one, said town attorney Gary Gilliam. Elam bought the Golden Pine in 1996. Pound's proximity to a dry Kentucky county makes it a good place for taverns and night spots. The nearest dance club is some 20 miles away in Norton. Elam applied for a dance permit about a year ago, but withdrew the application out of fear that it would be rejected. More than 200 people showed up at the council meeting to oppose granting Elam a permit. Elam then hired a lawyer and got the law struck down. "We got the court ruling on Wednesday and we were dancing on Friday," said Elam. U. S. District Judge Glen Williams wrote in his ruling that the case amounted to an unconstitutional restriction of free expression. The council is busy drafting its ordinance more narrowly to pass constitutional muster. Town building inspectors also say the Golden Pine does not meet the state's fire code for dance halls and could prosecute him and close him down because of it. Competing bars haven't opened their dance floors yet, but applaud Elam's court victory.

Hi Cassie, I love the idea of having an official Elam Family History Organization. I would be happy to help out. As far as the other idea, I am willing to type labels for the postcards, or whatever else that I can do. My time is somewhat limited but I still could do quite a bit. Of course, none of us would want you to put your mailing address on the list, so, do you have a P.O. Box, or, can you get one? I think that they are about $50-$100/year. I am totally ignorant about snail mail. I have seen it mentioned many times, but do not have a clue. Can you inform me? Again, I am very grateful for all the research that you have done on our behalf. Let us know when and where to send a donation Diane Eleam

I have snail mailed and called every Elam in my county and surrounding area. Many of them are not able to find a relationship to our Anderson Elam family. I put notices in the paper about our yearly reunion but only Anderson's family shows up. They show up because we are all great cooks and spend all of our time at the reunion stuffing ourselves. The Weatherford Family has such an organization as you describe and they send out letters every so often. Since I couldn't trace my Samuel to them, I fianlly quit them but they contain family news and have enormous reunions. A person can find themselves going too far afield, ending up collecting names instead of connecting families. I find it overwhelming. Since we have never been able to connect our Edward to any other Elams, I guess we will probably be happiest going along on our own for awhile. At least, that's how I feel. But I want to send a contribution if you will send your address, Cassie, and now that things have calmed down on my other research, remind me again which war we are collecting Elam names for. I work about 10 lines at once and I feel at age 77 I have a perfect right to become somewhat confused once in awhile--but not often. When I reach 78, then I can be even more confused! Mariynn ---------- > From: Cassie Elam <celam@pdq.net> > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Elam Family Research Page and a couple of ideas... > Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 1:16 AM > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --------------616F47093C8B > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi cousins -- > > I have received several offers to help out in paying for the move of the > website to Rootsweb. While it's not necessary, if you really want to I > would happily accept your kind offers. > > That brings to mind something I've been mulling over in my feverish > brain of late. What would people think about making an organized effort > to try and contact some of our "snail-mail only" Elam cousins? Since we > have lists of Elams from every state we could do some sort of a mailing > to try and get some more folks contributing to our research. Who knows > what knowledge is lurking in someone's attic who doesn't belong to the > list? > I've checked with the Post Office and pre-stamped postcards can be > purchased from it for 21 cents each. The postage for a regular postcard > is 20 cents, so this seems to be the most economical route. If you all > are interested in going this route, I could either send lists of > addresses to those of you who would like to participate or you could > make a contribution to be used for purchasing the postcards. > > Another idea would be to set up an "official" Elam Family History > Association. While I don't have time to undertake its organization, I > have done some research into how other such groups are set up and would > be glad to pitch in with getting it up and running. For a yearly > subscription, you typically get a membership card or certificate and a > periodic newsletter. The dues are used to cover such items as the > newsletter, advertising the association, establishing a research > library, etc. The associations I looked at all have a website that, > while varying in content, seems to look pretty much like the one I've > already got set up. If people are agreeable, I could modify it to > become the official association website and we could go from there. > > Well, what do you think? Any volunteers? > > Cassie > > --------------616F47093C8B > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > X-AIGFROM: <ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com> > X-AIGTO: celam@PDQ.NET > Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27-2] by meg.pdq.net ID 49_77614; > Mon, 02 Aug 1999 03:47:35 -0500 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA17989; > Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:47:01 -0700 (PDT) > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:47:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com > Message-Id: <199908020847.BAA17989@bl-11.rootsweb.com> > Subject: ELAM-ROOTS-D Digest V99 #119 > X-Loop: ELAM-ROOTS-D@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <ELAM-ROOTS-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume99/119 > Precedence: list > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" > To: ELAM-ROOTS-D@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > > ELAM-ROOTS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 119 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Fwd: Court Records [LDRAM2058@aol.com] > #2 Re: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Elam Family Res [dloy@mindspring.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from ELAM-ROOTS-D, send a message to > > ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > > X-Message: #1 > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:32:18 EDT > From: LDRAM2058@aol.com > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <b525515f.24d608d2@aol.com> > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Fwd: Court Records > > --part1_b525515f.24d608d2_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Received the attached records and thought others might be interested. I > noticed that I had many license dates for the marriages listed instead of the > actual marriage date. Maybe others will find the information helpful. > > LaDonna Elam McKelvey > > --part1_b525515f.24d608d2_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: Ray1693@aol.com > From: Ray1693@aol.com > Full-name: Ray1693 > Message-ID: <a88a25b6.24d53362@aol.com> > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 01:21:38 EDT > Subject: Re: Court Records > To: LDRAM2058@aol.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 > > There are no mentions of Samuel Elam in the Court Records. > > Edward Elam: > Page 91 4-4-1795, was named a juror. > Page 98 3-1766 was named as a defendant in Henry Co., in an assult and > battery case > Page 171 in the Records at Large Book. 9-5-1796, was a member of a jury. > Prince Edward Co. Court: As late as April 1797. Six times mentioned as being > in attendance. From the reocrds, he seemed to live 20 miles from the court > house. They were paid for their attendance, and the records state, 2 days, > 40 miles. That means 2 days of attendance and a total of 40 miles traveled. > > Joel Elam > Attendance in April 1802 at the court. 3 days, 12 miles, 2 times > > Soloman H. Elam > 5-5-1795 Charlotte Co. Court named as a juror. > ............................... > Marriage Bonds and Minister's Returns of Charlotte Co., VA 1764-1815 > > ELAM GROOMS > > 7 February 1814. Anderson G. ELAM and Latisha Weatherford, dau. Samuel > Weatherford. Dur. Samuel Weatherford, Jr. pg. 516 > > 17 November 1813. Chandler ELAM and Tabitha Harris, dau. Sally Harris. Sur. > Jacob Hudson. Married 18 November by Rev. George Petty. pg. 501 > > 28 May 1810. Edward ELAM and Lettice Wallace (widow). Sur. Thomas Chaffin. > Married 1 June by Rev. Richard Dabbs. pg. 455 *** > > *** 1 March 1790. John Wallace and Lydia Chaffin. Sur. Joshua Chaffin. > Married 11 March by Rev. Thomas Johnson who says Letty Chaffin. pg. 150 > > 29 December 1782. Soloman Harmon ELAM and Phoebe Osborne, dau. Reps. > Osborne. pg. 51 > > 23 January 1813. Harmon ELAM and Nancy Dupree, dau. William Dupree. Sur. > William Dupree, Jr. Married 28 January by Rev. William Richards. pg. 501 > > 23 February 1788. James ELAM and Betsy Sharp, dau. Mack Sharp. Sur. Thomas > Farley. Married same day by Rev. John Williams. pg. 113 > > 1 February 1790. Joel ELAM and Mary Ann Easter. Sur. Hill Hudson. Married > 3 February by Rev. John Williams. pg. 143 > > 1 October 1787. Martin ELAM and Judith Barnes, dau. Francis Barnes. Sur. > John Eubank. Married 25 October by Rev. John Williams. pg108 > > 8 December 1807. Reps. J. ELAM and Mary Gregory, dau. Joseph Gregory. Sur. > D. S. Brown. pg. 401 > > 21 May 1808. Robert ELAM and Polly Richardson, dau. John Richardson. Sur. > RIchard Richardson. pg. 412 > > 29 April 1809. Thomas ELAM and Catherine Kemp (widow). Sur. Price Roach. > Married same day by Rev. Joseph Jenkins. pg. 435 *** > > *** 5 January 1797. William Kemp and Catey Roach, dau. John Roach. Sur. John > Roach, Jr. pg. 252 > > ELAM Brides:: > > 9 April 1814. Thomas Gregory and Ednea J. ELAM, dau. Soloman H. ELAM. Sur. > Harmon ELAM. pg. 519 > > 17 December 1782. John Burrass and Elizabeth ELAM, dau. William ELAM. Sur. > Martin ELAM. Married 19 December by Rev. Thomas Johnston. pg. 49 > > 28 February 1793. Obadiah Edge and Elizabeth ELAM, dau. Edward ELAM. Sur. > John Tarply. Married same day by Rev. Edward Almond. pg. 189 > > 7 August 1800. William Neighbors and Elizabeth ELAM. Married by Rev. John > Chappell. Minister's Returns p. 25 > > 5 July 1802. John Neighbors and Jincy ELAM, ward of Charles Raine. Sur. > William Smith, Jr. John son of William Neighbors. Married same day by Rev. > John Chappell. pg 316 > > 7 May 1782. Peter Word and Frances ELAM, dau. William ELAM. Sur. Harmon > ELAM. Married 8 May by Rev. Thomas Johnston. pg. 50 > > 3 August 1812. Seaton DUffer and Nancy ELAM, dau. Jean ELAM. Sur. Samuel > ELAM. Seaton son of Edmund Duffer. Married 7 August by Rev. William Richards > who says Mary ELAM. pg. 485 > > 5 June 1786. James Elmore and Polly ELAM, dau. Edward ELAM. Sur. William > Elmore. Married 8 June by Rev. Thomas Johnston. pg. 94 > > 22 August 1797. Lewis Dunn and Rebecca ELAM, dau. Edward ELAM. Sur. John > ELAM. Married 24 August by Rev. Edward Almond. pg. 249 > > Hope that these can be of assistance to you. > > Barbra Jean., > > --part1_b525515f.24d608d2_boundary-- > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > > X-Message: #2 > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 02:49:01 -0400 > From: dloy@mindspring.com > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <03d201bedcb3$1d6b98c0$d23d45cf@vogmudet> > Subject: Re: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Elam Family Research Page > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Cassie, > Why don't you let some of us help you pay for the site > that you need? I certainly would contribute. I appreciate > very much what you are doing. Thanks. Diane > -----Original Message----- > From: Cassie Elam <celam@pdq.net> > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 6:25 PM > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Elam Family Research Page > > > >Hello all -- > > > >As you all know I threw a major temper tantrum when Geocities and Yahoo > >merged and came out with that hideous clause in their Terms of Service > >contract that says they can do anything with the information contained > >on any site hosted by them. It turns out that after I went to all that > >trouble to move everything over to Tripod, with whom I had placed the > >"photographs" section of my page a year or two ago, I went in and looked > >at their Terms of Service and they have changed it to use the EXACT SAME > >language as GeoCities/Yahoo! I was so angry that I decided to check out > >Xoom.com and found that they also use the very same clause. So, it > >looks like short of paying someone to host the site (which I have looked > >into and is prohibitively expensive), there's really no alternative but > >to pick my favorite devil. I'm going to keep the page at both sites, > >but in the future I may change the links on the main page at Tripod to > >point to the GeoCities site just because the GeoCities File Manager is > >so much more user-friendly than that of Tripod. > > > >Now that I've probably hopelessly confused you, just remember that you > >can get to the site by going to either address: > > > >http://www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/6831 or > >http://members.tripod.com/cellinismom/index.html > > > >Cassie > > > > -------------------------------- > End of ELAM-ROOTS-D Digest V99 Issue #119 > ***************************************** > > --------------616F47093C8B-- >