Does anyone know what these French words are translated into English? Vive le printemps et ses vols thirondelles NOTE: The vols could be vals Thanks. Diane

My infor about Charlotte Co. VA Elams is of an earlier era. William Elam and Edward Elam (brothers) lived in the Bluestone Creek region of eastern Charlotte Co. in the latter half of the 1700s. They each had large families, many members of whom left the area and went to other colonies (and states). William, from I descend, went to SC in about 1790. Sons John and Martin and daughter Elizabeth Elam Burress also went to SC . William's son Solomon Harmon Elam stayed in Charlotte Co. all his life. He had a large family, lived in the Bluestone Creek country, was a Revol. War vet, and died about 1842-43. I have not traced his lineage down beyond about 1800 nor have I traced Edward's. William and Edward also had a brother named Joel who lived on Irby's Creek in Mecklenburg Co., not far from William and Edward. He, too,had a large family that scattered, but some may have stayed in the area. Good luck with your research. Earl Elam

I'm not sure if this ever got forwarded to the list or not, so just in case... From: <Kaysmith9@aol.com> To: jwdomain:rootsweb.com:ELAM-ROOTS-L Subject: {not a subscriber} Charlotte County Elams Attachments: Mime.822 (Save As: Binary, Size=1652 bytes) Message: Does anyone have info concerning Charoltte Co.Elams? I am particularly interested in: Samuel V. Elam, wife: Permilia; Martha, mother (?), listed Charlotte Co., 1850 census. -------AND/OR William Elam listed with Lucinda and Betsey A, Charlotte Co., 1850 census. Any information will be appreciated. Kathryn B. Smith

This is straight out of Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter. I thought some of you might find it helpful. - The Census Book Bill Dollarhide is a well-known and prolific genealogy author and lecturer. He has just released a new book that will be of interest to most people researching ancestors who lived in the United States. The full title of the book is "The Census Book - A Genealogist's Guide to Federal Facts, Schedules and Indexes." The 183-page book indeed does live up to its full title. It gives detailed descriptions of each census schedule and identifies every known U.S. census index ever published. The Census Book gives a complete tabulation of all U.S. Federal Censuses including non- population census schedules and where the records are located today. It gives many unknown facts and peculiarities about census records. The Census Book also includes maps of the United States as it changed and grew over the years. Looking for ancestors in the 1820 census in the area known today as Wisconsin? A quick look at the map on page 29 shows that present-day Wisconsin was a part of the Michigan Territory in the 1820 census. Therefore the ancestors would be listed in the 1820 census as living in the Michigan Territory. Do you want to know if a particular census return for a state has been indexed? Or, even better, has it been transcribed to CD-ROM? If so, The Census Book will tell you. It lists all the census indexes as well as the Broderbund CD-ROM census CD-ROM disks. According to a reference in the book's preface, "this review spends considerable space correcting errors found in the descriptions of censuses and indexes found on CD-ROM publications." The Census Book apparently does not cover census CD-ROM disks made by companies other than Broderbund, however. The Census Book also contains blank census extraction forms. You can photocopy these forms and then use them to copy and track your ancestor's information as you view these original source documents. Now for the fun part: a CD-ROM of the entire book is included inside the back cover. When you purchase this book, you actually receive two copies: one printed on paper and an exact duplicate in electronic form on CD-ROM. You can search for every word in the book. Since I have many ancestors who lived in Penobscot County, Maine, I did a search on the word "Penobscot." Within seconds, I found every reference to that word contained in the book. I was able to print any or all pages of the book. Before going to the library or a local Family History Center, I can print a copy of the page that describes the microfilm reel that I wish to view, including the Family History Library Call Number. The blank census extraction forms described earlier are also available in the CD-ROM version. The user can print very high- quality blank forms on a laser or inkjet printer. The Census Book CD-ROM uses Adobe Acrobat 4.0 software, an excellent choice. The required software is included for use with Windows 95, 98 or NT. The Census Book CD-ROM should also operate properly on a Macintosh although the Mac software is not included. You can download Adobe Acrobat for Macintosh at no charge from Adobe's website at http://www.adobe.com. Most of the normal Acrobat commands are supported in The Census Book CD-ROM. However, I could not find any method to cut-and-paste data from the book to other Windows applications using the Windows Clipboard. The CD-ROM uses bookmarks as a sort of Table of Contents. It does not seem to have the capability for adding new bookmarks or annotations. "The Census Book - A Genealogist's Guide to Federal Facts, Schedules and Indexes" by William Dollarhide is a valuable addition to the bookshelf of any genealogist doing research in the United States. The availability of "twin copies," one on paper and another on CD-ROM, is an excellent method of meeting everyone's needs and preferences. "The Census Book" is published by Heritage Quest and lists for $24.95 U.S. funds. However, when I looked at Heritage Quest's website, I noticed that the price there was shown as $22.45. Shipping charges will add a bit more to that price. For more information about this excellent new book, look at: http://www.heritagequest.com

Thanks for the info on John William Elam. Unfortunately, I have very little info on him. He was born about 1826 in Chesterfield and his parents were Richard & Winifred A. Elam. He married Elizabeth P. Jones on 23 Dec 1846 in Richmond and they had at least three children. Elizabeth and her children do appear in the 1860 census (plus 1870 and 1880) - but what happened to John W. is unknown. Elizabeth died in 1881 in Petersburg. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KeyesPerry@aol.com> To: <ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 1:37 AM Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS] John Wm. ELAM Deed 1848 Chesterfield Co VA > Chesterfield County, Virginia, Deed Book 38, pp. 260-261 > > This Indenture made this 18th day of April one thousand eight hundred and > forty nine, between John William Elam of the one part, and Richard W. > Flournoy and Edmund H. Flournoy, of the other part, all of the County of > Chesterfield. Witnesseth, that the said John William Elam, in consideration > of two hundred and twenty two dollars and thirty six cents to him in hand > paid before the delivery of these presents the receipt whereof is hereby > acknowledged, hath given, granted, bargained, sold, aliened, assigned, > transferred and confirmed, and by these presents doth give, grant, bargain, > sell, alien, assign, transfer and confirm unto the said Richard W. Flournoy > and Edmund H. Flournoy, their heirs, executors, administrators, and assigns, > all his the > said John Wm Elam's right, interest and estate, being on undivided fifth > part, in reversion, of the land and slaves, held by his mother Mrs. Winifred > A. Elam, for life, under the will of her late husband Richard Elam, late of > Chesterfield County; also all his interest and estate in another parcel of > land, devised to his mother for life by the will of James Elam dec'd late of > Chesterfield County, being an undivided fifth part thereof, in remainder-- > All lying and being in the said County. To have and to hold the said rights > and interest unto, and to the use of the said Richard W. Flournoy and Edmund > H. Flournoy, their heirs, executors, administrators and assigns. > And the said John Wm Elam, for himself and his heirs, doth by these > presents covenant to warrant and forever defend the said rights and interest > unto the said Richard W. Flournoy and Edmund H. Flournoy, their heirs, > executors, administrators and assigns, against the claims of all persons > whomsoever. In testimony whereof the said John William Elam has set his hand > and seal to these presents the day and year aforesaid. > J. W. Elam {seal} > > note: John William Elam may have wanted the cash for investment in a > "patented stave making machine" that he and John Eppes FLOURNOY were > operating "on the dock at Richmond." The 2 men were half-first-cousins. > John William Elam is not listed in the Chesterfield County censuses after > 1850, although his wife and children are. Does anyone have further > information about either of these men, or their business? > Laura > >

Hi cousins! I can't begin to tell you how excited I am to find all of you! As a child, I was always told by the elderly relatives that I inherited "that Elam pride" -- I had no idea what that meant, but they always said it as if it were a good thing! Before I found this website my Elam history only went back as far as Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook (plus in 1983 I found an 1860 census record showing an elderly Gilbert living with Benjamin & Emily, so I deduced this was his father). I have a great deal of information on the descendants of Benjamin & Emily, including children, spouses, births, deaths, stories, etc., which I'll share in a future message. Adding your research to mine, here's my line, starting with me: 1. Louanna Taulbee Walker 2. Ella Jane Morris & Johnie Milton Taulbee) 3. Julian Preston Morris & Addie Elam 4. Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook 5. Gilbert Elam & Catherine Cooley 6. William "Billie" Cannon Elam & Susannah Rugins 7. Gilbert Elam & Susanna Cannon 8. Robert Elam & Elizabeth Boling 9. Gilbert Elam & Mary Hatcher 10. Gilbert Elam & Ann Elam 11. Thomas Elam & Mary Shirecliffe 11. Robert Elam (through Ann) CORRECTION: on Cassie's "James Elam Descendants", there's a 2nd marriage listed for Benjamin Elam (to Rebecca Burton). This must be someone else's Benjamin (there's an LDS report showing a Benjamin C. Elam b. 1850 m. Rebecca Burton in 1871). MY Benjamin was born in 1842 -- I don't have an exact date of death. The story handed down is that Ben was still fairly young when died -- he fell to his death when he climbed to the top of a watermill to fix a frozen waterwheel. Ben & Emily's youngest son Grant was born in 1892, so the earliest Ben could have died was after Emily became pregnant with Grant in 1891-1892, which would make Ben 50. Does anyone have any information on the ancestors of Emily Jane Holbrook Elam --I've reached a brick wall. There's a small penciled note in the Family Bible close to her name that (I think) reads: "mar'd Murphy". Perhaps a 2nd marriage after Ben's death? Also, "Wheelrim" is written after her maiden name -- maybe this is where the Holbrooks lived. Can't wait to hear from all of you. I'll organize my notes & files & send you the rest of what I have. Lou Walker

Chesterfield County, Virginia, Deed Book 38, pp. 260-261 This Indenture made this 18th day of April one thousand eight hundred and forty nine, between John William Elam of the one part, and Richard W. Flournoy and Edmund H. Flournoy, of the other part, all of the County of Chesterfield. Witnesseth, that the said John William Elam, in consideration of two hundred and twenty two dollars and thirty six cents to him in hand paid before the delivery of these presents the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged, hath given, granted, bargained, sold, aliened, assigned, transferred and confirmed, and by these presents doth give, grant, bargain, sell, alien, assign, transfer and confirm unto the said Richard W. Flournoy and Edmund H. Flournoy, their heirs, executors, administrators, and assigns, all his the said John Wm Elam’s right, interest and estate, being on undivided fifth part, in reversion, of the land and slaves, held by his mother Mrs. Winifred A. Elam, for life, under the will of her late husband Richard Elam, late of Chesterfield County; also all his interest and estate in another parcel of land, devised to his mother for life by the will of James Elam dec’d late of Chesterfield County, being an undivided fifth part thereof, in remainder-- All lying and being in the said County. To have and to hold the said rights and interest unto, and to the use of the said Richard W. Flournoy and Edmund H. Flournoy, their heirs, executors, administrators and assigns. And the said John Wm Elam, for himself and his heirs, doth by these presents covenant to warrant and forever defend the said rights and interest unto the said Richard W. Flournoy and Edmund H. Flournoy, their heirs, executors, administrators and assigns, against the claims of all persons whomsoever. In testimony whereof the said John William Elam has set his hand and seal to these presents the day and year aforesaid. J. W. Elam {seal} note: John William Elam may have wanted the cash for investment in a "patented stave making machine" that he and John Eppes FLOURNOY were operating "on the dock at Richmond." The 2 men were half-first-cousins. John William Elam is not listed in the Chesterfield County censuses after 1850, although his wife and children are. Does anyone have further information about either of these men, or their business? Laura

Cassie, thanks for the info RE Fraudulent lineages. To keep you posted on my work, I am frantically trying to get the book MS in shape for a printer and in the hands of one before we head east on another long trip. We will be traveling with RV to Maine beginning Sept. 2, will spend several weeks there, then head south to Boston and Newport. I expect to do some research on Samul Elam of Vaucluse while in Newport. Then south eventually to Charleston and Savannah and back to area of ancestors in Edgefield Co., SC, and Lincoln Co., GA. Will be away until about Nov. 1. My computer will be shut down during that time but can still receive messages. I just won't see them until we return from the trip. I'll answer any mail needing reply at that time. Keep up the good work. We appreciate your efforts to maintain a flow of communications between we Elams doing genealogy. Earl Elam, Granbury, TX

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Cassie, I totally agree with Marilyn's comments. Roberta in AL "Allen-Wible, Marilyn K" wrote: > > Cassie, I appreciate and agree with your suspicious nature on something like > this. It may very well be a legitimate effort, but it is still a good idea > to exercise some caution with an organization that asks for birth > certificates or other personal information as "proof," especially if it's an > relatively new venture with no history to use as validation. > > I appreciate everyone's input into the Elam "gene pool" of information, and > Cassie's hard work and dedication to seeing that it works so well for all of > us. > > Marilyn Allen-Wible > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cassie Elam [SMTP:celam@pdq.net] > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 8:19 PM > > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS] Fraudulent lineages > > > > There is a website at > > http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/fraud/fraud.htm that discusses > > fraudulent lineages published by GUSTAVE ANJOU (1863-1942) and lists the > > 109 "genealogies" of his found at the Family History Library in Salt > > Lake City, Utah. The Elams are not listed, but you may want to check > > for other names you have been searching. There is an update which lists > > further fraudulent lineages. > > > > The website's main purpose is purportedly to share information on our > > earliest colonial ancestors. While it may be a perfectly valid venture, > > I have some reservations about it. They espouse the truly noble purpose > > of only including ancestors whose existence is proven by valid > > documentation. The problem I have is with their requirement that you > > provide a Xerox copy of a birth related document on yourself, and that > > of the parent your line goes through. Perhaps I am overly suspicious > > (10 years in the legal profession will do that to you) and this is a > > perfectly legitimate request, but this in conjunction with their open > > enrollment cutoff of 31 Aug 1999 just sounds a little fishy to me. At > > any rate, other people have submitted information and there are some > > names/biographical info in the database so you may want to have a look > > for your relatives. > > > > Cassie

About a year ago I was sent this little tidbit -- I thought I'd posted this 4 days ago, but I don't think it ever went through. If it did, sorry for the duplication. ********************************************** "Court of Oyer and Terminer, Court held for Amelia County on June 17,1785. Examination of Martin Elam, late of the county of Lunenburg on suspicion of his having harbored and concealed John Burton, a horse stealer." I think this is my Martin ELAM, who had married Mary PHILLIPS in 1775 in Lunenburg Co. VA and moved to Chester Co. SC by November 1789. But I want to make sure he's mine. Does anyone else claim the above Martin ELAM? :-) Does anyone know more about John BURTON? I appreciate any help on this. Vickie Elam White 102657.1616@compuserve.com

Cassie, I appreciate and agree with your suspicious nature on something like this. It may very well be a legitimate effort, but it is still a good idea to exercise some caution with an organization that asks for birth certificates or other personal information as "proof," especially if it's an relatively new venture with no history to use as validation. I appreciate everyone's input into the Elam "gene pool" of information, and Cassie's hard work and dedication to seeing that it works so well for all of us. Marilyn Allen-Wible > -----Original Message----- > From: Cassie Elam [SMTP:celam@pdq.net] > Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 8:19 PM > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS] Fraudulent lineages > > There is a website at > http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/fraud/fraud.htm that discusses > fraudulent lineages published by GUSTAVE ANJOU (1863-1942) and lists the > 109 "genealogies" of his found at the Family History Library in Salt > Lake City, Utah. The Elams are not listed, but you may want to check > for other names you have been searching. There is an update which lists > further fraudulent lineages. > > The website's main purpose is purportedly to share information on our > earliest colonial ancestors. While it may be a perfectly valid venture, > I have some reservations about it. They espouse the truly noble purpose > of only including ancestors whose existence is proven by valid > documentation. The problem I have is with their requirement that you > provide a Xerox copy of a birth related document on yourself, and that > of the parent your line goes through. Perhaps I am overly suspicious > (10 years in the legal profession will do that to you) and this is a > perfectly legitimate request, but this in conjunction with their open > enrollment cutoff of 31 Aug 1999 just sounds a little fishy to me. At > any rate, other people have submitted information and there are some > names/biographical info in the database so you may want to have a look > for your relatives. > > Cassie

There is a website at http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/fraud/fraud.htm that discusses fraudulent lineages published by GUSTAVE ANJOU (1863-1942) and lists the 109 "genealogies" of his found at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah. The Elams are not listed, but you may want to check for other names you have been searching. There is an update which lists further fraudulent lineages. The website's main purpose is purportedly to share information on our earliest colonial ancestors. While it may be a perfectly valid venture, I have some reservations about it. They espouse the truly noble purpose of only including ancestors whose existence is proven by valid documentation. The problem I have is with their requirement that you provide a Xerox copy of a birth related document on yourself, and that of the parent your line goes through. Perhaps I am overly suspicious (10 years in the legal profession will do that to you) and this is a perfectly legitimate request, but this in conjunction with their open enrollment cutoff of 31 Aug 1999 just sounds a little fishy to me. At any rate, other people have submitted information and there are some names/biographical info in the database so you may want to have a look for your relatives. Cassie

Cassie, I would LOVE to help. I think it is a great idea. I think that modifying the current page would be a great idea. What can I do to help? Jayne -----Original Message----- From: Cassie Elam [mailto:celam@pdq.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 12:16 AM To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Elam Family Research Page and a couple of ideas... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------616F47093C8B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi cousins -- I have received several offers to help out in paying for the move of the website to Rootsweb. While it's not necessary, if you really want to I would happily accept your kind offers. That brings to mind something I've been mulling over in my feverish brain of late. What would people think about making an organized effort to try and contact some of our "snail-mail only" Elam cousins? Since we have lists of Elams from every state we could do some sort of a mailing to try and get some more folks contributing to our research. Who knows what knowledge is lurking in someone's attic who doesn't belong to the list? I've checked with the Post Office and pre-stamped postcards can be purchased from it for 21 cents each. The postage for a regular postcard is 20 cents, so this seems to be the most economical route. If you all are interested in going this route, I could either send lists of addresses to those of you who would like to participate or you could make a contribution to be used for purchasing the postcards. Another idea would be to set up an "official" Elam Family History Association. While I don't have time to undertake its organization, I have done some research into how other such groups are set up and would be glad to pitch in with getting it up and running. For a yearly subscription, you typically get a membership card or certificate and a periodic newsletter. The dues are used to cover such items as the newsletter, advertising the association, establishing a research library, etc. The associations I looked at all have a website that, while varying in content, seems to look pretty much like the one I've already got set up. If people are agreeable, I could modify it to become the official association website and we could go from there. Well, what do you think? Any volunteers? Cassie --------------616F47093C8B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-AIGFROM: <ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com> X-AIGTO: celam@PDQ.NET Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27-2] by meg.pdq.net ID 49_77614; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 03:47:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA17989; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199908020847.BAA17989@bl-11.rootsweb.com> Subject: ELAM-ROOTS-D Digest V99 #119 X-Loop: ELAM-ROOTS-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ELAM-ROOTS-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume99/119 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: ELAM-ROOTS-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com - ---------------------------- Content-Type: text/plain ELAM-ROOTS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 119 Today's Topics: #1 [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Fwd: Court Records [LDRAM2058@aol.com] #2 Re: [ELAM-ROOTS-L] Elam Family Res [dloy@mindspring.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ELAM-ROOTS-D, send a message to ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ - ----------------------------

Hi people New to this list and I'm wondering if the variants Element, Ellement, Eliman etc have been touched on by any one? My Element's come from UK, thence New Zealand thence Australia. Regards Tom from Oz element@enternet.com.au

New Elam & Eleam Website with other links. Please check it out and please sign the guestbook. Diane http://www.mindspring.com/~dloy/

New Elam & Eleam Website with other links. Please check it out and please sign the guestbook. Diane

Lou -- You don't mention which area of the country your ELAMs are from -- mine are from KY, TN, VA or WV. I don't have much info on mine, so it usually helps to narrow the search to one area at first. Thanks. Roberta in AL Lou Walker wrote: > > Hi cousins! I can't begin to tell you how excited I am to find all of you! > > As a child, I was always told by the elderly relatives that I inherited > "that Elam pride" -- I had no idea what that meant, but they always said it > as if it were a good thing! > > Before I found this website my Elam history only went back as far as > Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook (plus in 1983 I found an 1860 census > record showing an elderly Gilbert living with Benjamin & Emily, so I deduced > this was his father). I have a great deal of information on the descendants > of Benjamin & Emily, including children, spouses, births, deaths, stories, > etc., which I'll share in a future message. > > Adding your research to mine, here's my line, starting with me: > 1. Louanna Taulbee Walker > 2. Ella Jane Morris & Johnie Milton Taulbee) > 3. Julian Preston Morris & Addie Elam > 4. Benjamin Elam & Emily Jane Holbrook > 5. Gilbert Elam & Catherine Cooley > 6. William "Billie" Cannon Elam & Susannah Rugins > 7. Gilbert Elam & Susanna Cannon > 8. Robert Elam & Elizabeth Boling > 9. Gilbert Elam & Mary Hatcher > 10. Gilbert Elam & Ann Elam > 11. Thomas Elam & Mary Shirecliffe > 11. Robert Elam (through Ann) > > CORRECTION: on Cassie's "James Elam Descendants", there's a 2nd marriage > listed for Benjamin Elam (to Rebecca Burton). This must be someone else's > Benjamin (there's an LDS report showing a Benjamin C. Elam b. 1850 m. > Rebecca Burton in 1871). MY Benjamin was born in 1842 -- I don't have an > exact date of death. The story handed down is that Ben was still fairly > young when died -- he fell to his death when he climbed to the top of a > watermill to fix a frozen waterwheel. Ben & Emily's youngest son Grant was > born in 1892, so the earliest Ben could have died was after Emily became > pregnant with Grant in 1891-1892, which would make Ben 50. > > Does anyone have any information on the ancestors of Emily Jane Holbrook > Elam --I've reached a brick wall. There's a small penciled note in the > Family Bible close to her name that (I think) reads: "mar'd Murphy". > Perhaps a 2nd marriage after Ben's death? Also, "Wheelrim" is written after > her maiden name -- maybe this is where the Holbrooks lived. > > Can't wait to hear from all of you. I'll organize my notes & files & send > you the rest of what I have. > > Lou Walker

About a year ago I was sent this little tidbit -- "Court of Oyer and Terminer, Court held for Amelia County on June 17,1785. Examination of Martin Elam, late of the county of Lunenburg on suspicion of his having harbored and concealed John Burton, a horse stealer." I think this is my Martin ELAM, who had married Mary PHILLIPS in 1775 in Lunenburg Co. VA and moved to Chester Co. SC by November 1789. But I want to make sure he's mine. Does anyone else claim the above Martin ELAM? :-) I appreciate any help on this. Vickie Elam White 102657.1616@compuserve.com