Still see no Hiram..born abt 1804 and he came from Tennessee to Alabama..drats.. Herman LDRAM2058@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/2/99 11:18:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, > ELAM-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > << X-Message: #1 > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 14:00:34 -0500 > From: "Marilynn Masten" <marilynn@shelby.net> > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Message-Id: <199911021858.NAA16849@ns.shelby.net> > Subject: Re: [ELAM-ROOTS] JANE ELAM WIFE OF EDWARD d. 1809 VIRGINIA > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Jane, md. Edward Elam Sr.--we have B. abt 1737 Eng. and D. 1811, Va. We > have no more information on Jane. > > Edward was born 1733, Eng., D. 1810, Va. Someone has come up with some > differing info connecting Edward to another family but we haven't seen > documentation of that yet. > The children were : > > John > Daniel > Samuel > Edward Jr. > Mary (Molly) > Rebecca > Sarah > Elizabeth > Nancy > > I descend from Edward Jr. and HE moved to Tenn. with his second wife and > two children by her. I have that from a bible record of a Mr. William > Elam, Medina, TN. > > I, being a member also of the Gardner/Garner family, have records of Edward > Jr. living here in Rutherford/Cleveland Co., for a time. No record of Jane > ever being here. Anderson Samuel Elam moved here in about 1818 and his > daughter, Sarah Elam married my Great Grandfather, Rufus W. Gardner. > > Take a look at out Gardner Web Page and you can see which ones moved to TN. > "http://www.shelby.net/marilynn". > > >> > Marilyn > > Thanks so much for this information. I forwarded it to Beverly. > > Thanks also for the information on the web pages. > > LaDonna

I am looking for info on my grandfather Robert C. Elam born about 1893? probably in Kentucky. I have been told that he had a brother that was an editor for a newspaper in Kentucky. He married Olive Miller in 1924 in Oklahoma and I was told that he had been married prior to that. He and my grandmother and their children lived in Michigan and Ohio. He left the family in the mid 1930's. He may have ended up in Missouri. Any help would be very greatly appreciated as the only Elam that I know is my father. Thank you, Bruce Elam Norman, OK

My name is Barbara Ann (Elam) Foreman. My Father was Charles Edward Elam son of Ben and Lona (Allen) Elam. Ben was the son of John and Nellis Elam , All were born in Royalton and Prestonsburge Ky.

Hi, my last name is Elam, ?how did the name come about? My grandmother told us our people lived next too a elm tree in England. Thank You for your time. HW Elam aelam@tidepool.com

Brenda, Thanks. I'd be glad to hear if she knows anything. Apparently the Roland AMYX I'm looking for had several illegitimate children. Also heard another possiblility for Troy's father as Andrew ELAM. Do you know anything about him? (I haven't posted that to the list yet.) I have a lot of ELAMs in my data base, but no Andrew. Sharon >Sharon, > I may be able to find something about Roland Amyx for you. Talked to a >lady to day that does a little on Amyx. >Brenda >-----Original Message----- >From: Sharon Warner <index@dmci.net> >To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 1:22 PM >Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS] Morgan County, KY 1900 & 1910 > > >>Does anyone know anything about the circumstances that find my grandfather >>Troy ELAM in his cousin Charlie ELAM's household in the 1900 Morgan County, >>Kentucky census and in his great uncle Ben ELAM's household in 1910? Or >>when he left one place for the other? Or when he left Ben's household? Troy >>was in Middletown, Ohio by December of 1916. >> >>Troy was the son of Elizabeth (Betty) ELAM and an as yet unknown AMYX man >>(perhaps Roland?). Betty didn't raise Troy or any of her other children and >>was never married. >> >>214-214 ELAM, Charlie 26 Laborer (born 6/1874) >> Mary B 26 (born Dec >1873) >> William G 6/12 (born >>November 1899) >> Troy 4 Cousin (born >>February 1896) >> >> >>1910 Morgan County, Kentucky census (Adele Preceinct) Taken April 19 >>98-99 ELAM, Ben C. HH 67 In marriage #2 Married 32 years Farmer, >>Labor at home >> Emmili wife 52 In marriage #1 Married 32 >>years 6 children born/5 children living >> Grant son 18 Single Farm Labor at home >>(School since Sept. 1, 1909: Yes) >> Troy nephew 14 Single Farm Labor at home >>(School since Sept. 1, 1909: Yes) >> >>(Betty was the daughter of John C. and Rebecca COFFEE ELAM; Ben was John's >>brother so he was Betty's uncle and Troy's great uncle.) >> >>Sharon >> >> >>

Jane, md. Edward Elam Sr.--we have B. abt 1737 Eng. and D. 1811, Va. We have no more information on Jane. Edward was born 1733, Eng., D. 1810, Va. Someone has come up with some differing info connecting Edward to another family but we haven't seen documentation of that yet. The children were : John Daniel Samuel Edward Jr. Mary (Molly) Rebecca Sarah Elizabeth Nancy I descend from Edward Jr. and HE moved to Tenn. with his second wife and two children by her. I have that from a bible record of a Mr. William Elam, Medina, TN. I, being a member also of the Gardner/Garner family, have records of Edward Jr. living here in Rutherford/Cleveland Co., for a time. No record of Jane ever being here. Anderson Samuel Elam moved here in about 1818 and his daughter, Sarah Elam married my Great Grandfather, Rufus W. Gardner. Take a look at out Gardner Web Page and you can see which ones moved to TN. "http://www.shelby.net/marilynn". Marilynn ---------- > From: LDRAM2058@aol.com > To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS] JANE ELAM WIFE OF EDWARD d. 1809 VIRGINIA > Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 7:37 PM > > I recently found this on the Gen Web > > G8 Edward ELAM I b 1733 Mecklenburg, Va m. 1755 Mecklenburg, VA D 1811 > > Mecklenburg, VA Jane UNK b 1740 VA d 27 Jan 1832 Rutherford, TN Robert, > > Daniel C. Samuel, Edward II, John Barkley, Mary "Polly", Sarah, Rebecca, > > Elizabeth, Nancy, Andrew> > > > > The owner of this information Beverly Himes Barger tell me that an elderly > relative gave her this information, but has no other sources for the data. > > ?Does anyone else have information on the place of Jane's death or a specific > date? > > ?Does anyone else have a middle name for John? > > Would love this if true as many of the Garner family moved to Rutherford and > then later Franklin Co., TN. It would be possible that Jane moved there with > her children that married into the Garner family. > > Help > > LaDonna Elam McKelvey

Sharon, I may be able to find something about Roland Amyx for you. Talked to a lady to day that does a little on Amyx. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Warner <index@dmci.net> To: ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <ELAM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 1:22 PM Subject: [ELAM-ROOTS] Morgan County, KY 1900 & 1910 >Does anyone know anything about the circumstances that find my grandfather >Troy ELAM in his cousin Charlie ELAM's household in the 1900 Morgan County, >Kentucky census and in his great uncle Ben ELAM's household in 1910? Or >when he left one place for the other? Or when he left Ben's household? Troy >was in Middletown, Ohio by December of 1916. > >Troy was the son of Elizabeth (Betty) ELAM and an as yet unknown AMYX man >(perhaps Roland?). Betty didn't raise Troy or any of her other children and >was never married. > >214-214 ELAM, Charlie 26 Laborer (born 6/1874) > Mary B 26 (born Dec 1873) > William G 6/12 (born >November 1899) > Troy 4 Cousin (born >February 1896) > > >1910 Morgan County, Kentucky census (Adele Preceinct) Taken April 19 >98-99 ELAM, Ben C. HH 67 In marriage #2 Married 32 years Farmer, >Labor at home > Emmili wife 52 In marriage #1 Married 32 >years 6 children born/5 children living > Grant son 18 Single Farm Labor at home >(School since Sept. 1, 1909: Yes) > Troy nephew 14 Single Farm Labor at home >(School since Sept. 1, 1909: Yes) > >(Betty was the daughter of John C. and Rebecca COFFEE ELAM; Ben was John's >brother so he was Betty's uncle and Troy's great uncle.) > >Sharon > > >

I recently found this on the Gen Web G8 Edward ELAM I b 1733 Mecklenburg, Va m. 1755 Mecklenburg, VA D 1811 > Mecklenburg, VA Jane UNK b 1740 VA d 27 Jan 1832 Rutherford, TN Robert, > Daniel C. Samuel, Edward II, John Barkley, Mary "Polly", Sarah, Rebecca, > Elizabeth, Nancy, Andrew> > The owner of this information Beverly Himes Barger tell me that an elderly relative gave her this information, but has no other sources for the data. ?Does anyone else have information on the place of Jane's death or a specific date? ?Does anyone else have a middle name for John? Would love this if true as many of the Garner family moved to Rutherford and then later Franklin Co., TN. It would be possible that Jane moved there with her children that married into the Garner family. Help LaDonna Elam McKelvey

Alice ELAM was born March 16, 1855 and died May 10, 1912. She married Dock Franklin NEW about 1877 in Carroll Co. GA. He was born Feb. 14, 1852 and died Dec. 23, 1933. I believe they lived in Carrollton, Carroll Co. GA all their married lives. My ancestor, John ELAM, lived in Carrollton GA from 1850 or so until he died. He had a daughter named Josephine Alice who was born ca 1856 and was always called Alice on the records I've seen. This Alice's brother was Wiley Cumbia ELAM, my gr.gr. grandfather. I think that "my" Josephine Alice was the same woman who married Dock NEW. Can anyone help me confirm this? Vickie Elam White

Does anyone know anything about the circumstances that find my grandfather Troy ELAM in his cousin Charlie ELAM's household in the 1900 Morgan County, Kentucky census and in his great uncle Ben ELAM's household in 1910? Or when he left one place for the other? Or when he left Ben's household? Troy was in Middletown, Ohio by December of 1916. Troy was the son of Elizabeth (Betty) ELAM and an as yet unknown AMYX man (perhaps Roland?). Betty didn't raise Troy or any of her other children and was never married. 214-214 ELAM, Charlie 26 Laborer (born 6/1874) Mary B 26 (born Dec 1873) William G 6/12 (born November 1899) Troy 4 Cousin (born February 1896) 1910 Morgan County, Kentucky census (Adele Preceinct) Taken April 19 98-99 ELAM, Ben C. HH 67 In marriage #2 Married 32 years Farmer, Labor at home Emmili wife 52 In marriage #1 Married 32 years 6 children born/5 children living Grant son 18 Single Farm Labor at home (School since Sept. 1, 1909: Yes) Troy nephew 14 Single Farm Labor at home (School since Sept. 1, 1909: Yes) (Betty was the daughter of John C. and Rebecca COFFEE ELAM; Ben was John's brother so he was Betty's uncle and Troy's great uncle.) Sharon

Hi Paula -- In answer to your questions: >My questions are these: Where can I find this source? The Library of VA? >Is is online in their digital library? And what type of info is likely to be >found on "p. 823"? > > >Index to the War of 1812 Pay Rolls & Muster Rolls: CATALOG CARD: > Elam, Miles. > Muster Rolls, p.823 > Yes, this is from the Library of Virginia collection, but these items are not available in the digitial images library. I don't know exactly what you'll find on p. 823 or any of the rest. Every state was different in the type and amount of information they collected. Some of them are quite detailed. If you think this is your Miles, I would certainly contact them. I wish I could be of more help, but at this point, you know as much about it as I do. Good luck and let us know what you find out. Cassie

Are there any ELAM girls that seemed to drop off the face of the earth, were sent away, ran away or vanished for whatever reason? Perhaps were born "on the wrong side of the blanket" or had children born to them under those circumstances? If anyone has any info like this and is courageous enough to address it, please contact me. It may untie a knot I seem to have run into. The timeframe in question is 1860-1900. Thank you. NP email:NpVA3124@aol.com

Does anyone have a listing of the slaves the ELAMs of Charlotte Co., VA or of the neighboring counties (most likely Mecklenburg) owned or may have owned? Perhaps a record of any servants they might have had in their employ, for that matter, whether personal/house servants or those who might have worked their farms. I am especially interested in the years from about 1850-1870. Thanks, NP email: NpVA3124@aol.com

Kay, My Elams started in Chesterfield, Va. Thomas Godsey 3rd md. Phoebe Branch Elam, parent's Branch Elam and Donah Elam, daughter of Thomas, Nancy Godsey md. Abraham Mackness Blankenship. Nancy and Abraham made their way to London, Laurel Co. ,KY. Don't know it any of the Elam's came with them. Thomas was the son of John Godsey and Ann Elam. Are any of these yours? Dorothy

Hi Dorthoy: Thanks for posting the Laurel Co Elam marriages. Just wondering if you are researching the Laurel Co. Elams, or just kind and thoughful to post this info. for everyone. The Laurel Co. Elams are my direct line, and if by chance you are researching them, I would love to hear from you. I always feel like I need all the help I can get. Thank You, Kay

MARRIAGE INDEX LAUREL COUNTY KENTUCKY ELAM, Dan to Holt, Mary 10/21/1893 ELAM, D. D. to Roberts, E.A. 10/02/1893 ELAM, Ed to Williams, Mary C. 05/31/1902 ELAM, Epiminondas R. to Godsey Mary F. 12/20/1842 d/o Thomas & Phoebe Branch ELAM Godsey ELAM, E. R. to Coleman, Mary Jane 09/14/1864 ELAM, Even to Weaver, Margaret J. 06/30/1879 ELAM, F. R. to Tuttle, Mary 03/14/1894 ELAM, G. W. to Wiliams, Sarah 06/30/1914 ELAM, James E. to Tuttle, Mary 03/14/1883 ELAM, Jeff to Wiggins, E. 10/22/1868 ELAM, Jefferson to Hodge, America 11/30/1866 Father Ed Hodge ELAM, Jefferson to Wiggins, Evaline 10/21/1868 ELAM, P. D. D. to Standbury, Jane 03/06/1845 ELAM, Ranson to Tipton, Sealy 10/17/1878 ELAM, Richard to Lynch, Ollie 11/14/1887 ELAM, Simp to ELAM, Della 11/26/1913 ELAM, Stanifer to Johnson, Elizabeth 07/06/1887 ELAM, Theophilus to Brock, Francis Jane 04/02/1855 ELAM, Thomas to Hoage, Margaret 09/05/1848 ELAM, Willie to Overbey, Hannah 04/04/1928 ELAM, Sarah to Shotwell, John R. 05/06/1847 ELAM, B. W. to Moore, Lucy 10/05/1837 CHESTERFIELD CO., VIRGINIA MARRIAGES Branch ELAM to Dinah ELAM Aprial 2,1773 Witnesses James ELAM Thomas Godsey to Phebe Baugh ELAM March 1,1800 Witnesses FATHER Branch ELAM Berkeley ELAM Francis Cheatham Hope this can help someone. Dorothy

Cassie, I do not have any of this material, but this Miles ELAM is almost certainly my ancestor and he is as far back as I've gotten on my ELAM side and I can't connect to anyone on the list (I do have hope, though, my Mom just gave me the name of a 2nd cousin who's done research, but no time to contact yet). I'll certainly let the list know as soon as I connect or whatever I find so someone else, who isn't connecting, can connect with me! My questions are these: Where can I find this source? The Library of VA? Is is online in their digital library? And what type of info is likely to be found on "p. 823"? Index to the War of 1812 Pay Rolls & Muster Rolls: CATALOG CARD: Elam, Miles. Muster Rolls, p.823 I'm posting to the list as I'll bet I'm not the only one with these questions. By the way, you do a wonderful job keeping this list active. All my lists are rather slow right now, but I can't complain, because I have NO TIME to work on anything right now...I just figure everyone else must be in the same boat. Ha! Take care, Paula

I am uploading a table containing Library of Virginia holdings listed in its card catalogue which refer to various Elams. It is located at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~celam/Library-VA.html Rather than reproduce the entire thing here, I will list the Elams mentioned. If anyone has copies of these items or manages to get ahold of them, would you please send me a copy so that I can reproduce them for everyone to view? Thanks. Cassie Index to the War of 1812 Pay Rolls & Muster Rolls: CATALOG CARD Ammon Elam Elam, Berkley. Elam, Boling (Roland). Elam, James. Elam, James, En. Elam, Joel. Elam, Joshua. Elam, Mark L. Elam, Miles. Elam, Noah. Elam, Peter. Elam, Pleasant. Elam, Robert. Elam, Thos. H. Confederate Disability Applications and Receipts (Artificial Limbs): CATALOG CARD Elam, R. S. Elam, Robert S. Death Records Indexing Project : CATALOG CARD Elam, Eddie. Elam, Mary E. Henley Marriage & Obituary Database: CATALOG CARD Died- In Chesterfield County, on June 21, in her 28th year, Mrs. Catharine J. Clarke, widow of Gustavus A. Clarke, and dau. of Capt. William Elam of Chesterfield, leaving children. Married- In Charlotte County on June 27, by Rev. Fowler, Mr. William Elam, to Miss Frances Elam, eldest daughter of Mr. Elam, of Charlotte County Died- On Jan. 5, 1845, Mrs. Martha J. Elam, wife of Albert Elam. She died at the residence of her mother, Mrs. Elizabeth D. Terman, of Powhatan County Married- On the 27th instant, in Baltimore, by Rev. Mr. Sewell, Mr. William A. Elam, of Richmond, Va., to Miss Sarah E. Manly, second daughter of John Manly, of Baltimore. Married- On Thursday, Feb. 11, at the residence of the bride's father, by Rev. Jacob Manning, Samuel B. Elam, of Cumberland County and Miss Anna P. Lee, of Prince Edward County. Died- On Aug. 20, at Cottage Grove, the residence of Capt. John Miller, Miss Louisa A. Elam. Taken sick she left Amelia County for her home Buckingham Courthouse, but died in Cumberland County. Married- On July 8, at the Presbyterian Church, in Richmond, by Rev. Moses D. Hoge, Lindsey Walker, of Albemarle County and Sally, only dau. of the late Dr. Albert M. Elam, of Chesterfield Died- On Aug. 11, at his mother's residence in Chesterfield County, J. W. Elam, Principal at the Petersburg Seminary in his 81st year (should it be 31st year?) Married- On Jan. 15, by Rev. Jesse Witt, Tarlton B. Cox, to Miss Mary Catherine Elam, only dau. of Beverly Elam, all of Powhatan County. died- On Sept. 9, at the residence of his uncle, Geo. H. Matthews, Buckingham Court House, George William Elam, in his 24th year. Died- In Indiana Prairie, Franklin County, Mo., on Oct. 24, Mrs. Elizabeth Elam, widow of James Elam, of Chesterfield County, Va. in her 65th year. Married- On Oct 6, by Rev. D. K. Winfree, A. G. Elam of Richmond, to Miss M.A.Parkhill, of Tallahassee, Fla Died- On Feb. 2, in Shreveport, La., John M. Elam, formerly of Appomattox County, in his 27th year. Died- On Feb. 16, Wm. O. Elam in her ___th year. Married- On Thursday, Nov. 18, by Rev. Edward Baptist, Gustavus V. Clarke, formerly of Richmond, to Miss Catharine Elam, daughter of William G. Elam of Chesterfield County Married- On Thursday, March 26, by Rev. Francis C. Lowry, Mr. Isaac N. Wooldridge of Kentucky, to Miss Martha Francis Elam, daughter of Essex Elam. dec'd of Powhatan county. Died- on Feb. 2, at his residence in Chesterfield County, in his 36th year, Dr. A. M. Elam. leaving a wife and one child

Kent, In response to your question concerning a deed poll of trust... a poll deed is a deed made by one person or party only, to which he alone is bound, and executed only by himself. Polled deed is an archaic term having to do with the practice of cutting the top or side edge of the deed in a straight line (polled) as opposed to an indenture (deed indented) which cut the parchment or paper in a notched or saw-tooth edge. This was done as a practical matter of distinction. The deed poll of trust that you refer to would record the transfer of title to real property via trustee. There were sometimes other meanings attached to the term deed poll, as found in colonial Pennsylvania. Hope this helps.................Roger ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

ELAM, Joshua - buried on his farm OH 25 - Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 8542; Volume: 4 Does anyone know to which family he belongs? Cassie