----- Original Message ----- > is there any way you could post the thing you > have with johannes signature for the the entire > list too see it Ask and you shall receive....eventually. Sorry it took awhile to put together, I've been sick. I put together a very basic webpage concerning Johannes AEGENDER (AGNER). If anyone would like to Johannes' signatures, please go to the following website. Right now, I don't have a link from any of my other pages to this one yet, so go directly to the page as listed below: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hartmann/aegender.html ---Celia Hartmann