My friend who goes to Switzerland every year gave me some names from the area the Agners came from. Alas, I thought I could just pull my "Agner" file and it would be there but it is not. I moved recently . Poor excuse. I may have to ask her to do it again in the spring. Thanks to all for the interesting info you are sending to me. I'm overwhelmed! Incidentally, I have a good deal of info on the Wirbel family - now called Varble. Dorothea Eigener m Philip Wirbel .